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Moh
02-08-2008, 12:11 AM
For the size of the UK, it is a very powerful country / region. But if it was the same size as US, would it be more powerful?

Access
02-08-2008, 12:12 AM
UK owns US anyway so obviously UK.

tdi
02-08-2008, 12:19 AM
the UK, most likely.

Jordy
02-08-2008, 12:21 AM
It's not about land size, it's about where the land is. America is wealthy as it has lots of excellent land for farming and growing things, it also has a lot of coal, oil and gas, same goes for Canada.

I'm sure this is a phrase lads are familiar with 'Size isn't everything'

Moh
02-08-2008, 12:26 AM
It's not about land size, it's about where the land is. America is wealthy as it has lots of excellent land for farming and growing things, it also has a lot of coal, oil and gas, same goes for Canada.

I'm sure this is a phrase lads are familiar with 'Size isn't everything'
Size is everything for alot of people ;)

UK's more powerful than CA already isnt it?

But size kinda do matter, as the most powerful countries are the largest countries.

Jordy
02-08-2008, 12:35 AM
Size is everything for alot of people ;)

UK's more powerful than CA already isnt it?

But size kinda do matter, as the most powerful countries are the largest countries.Depends, the UK probably has a better airforce and navy but Canadian troops are well trained, but you said more powerful not the best army. Canada has a lot of resource's and if Canada wasn't there I'm sure America and other bits of the world wouldn't operate as well as they do.

Power isn't all just military and size, I'd say Saudi Arabia which isn't a really big country, a bit bigger than Germany probably is one of the most powerful countries in the world. It has a good army but the reason why Saudi Arabia is powerful is because it holds the worlds oil, if it stopped supplying Russia and China for example, it would probably have more political influence (AKA Power) than nuclear bombs :P

We're one of the most powerful countries and we're not big as it is, same goes for France and Germany, though I guess we're not as powerful as the USA. Together we are though so having allies must count for power too.

Moh
02-08-2008, 12:39 AM
Depends, the UK probably has a better airforce and navy but Canadian troops are well trained, but you said more powerful not the best army. Canada has a lot of resource's and if Canada wasn't there I'm sure America and other bits of the world wouldn't operate as well as they do.

Power isn't all just military and size, I'd say Saudi Arabia which isn't a really big country, a bit bigger than Germany probably is one of the most powerful countries in the world. It has a good army but the reason why Saudi Arabia is powerful is because it holds the worlds oil, if it stopped supplying Russia and China for example, it would probably have more political influence (AKA Power) than nuclear bombs :P

We're one of the most powerful countries and we're not big as it is, same goes for France and Germany, though I guess we're not as powerful as the USA. Together we are though so having allies must count for power too.
Its also to do with money and the government is ran.

Jordy
02-08-2008, 12:42 AM
Its also to do with money and the government is ran.I personally see oil and gas as huge power. Look how much power Russia has over Europe, if Russia choose to stop gas supplies to Europe, most of Europe will be with out gas, surely that's immense power?

Moh
02-08-2008, 12:43 AM
I personally see oil and gas as huge power. Look how much power Russia has over Europe, if Russia choose to stop gas supplies to Europe, most of Europe will be with out gas, surely that's immense power?
Yea, but if that did happen, there would be another war, this time for fuel.

Jordy
02-08-2008, 12:51 AM
Yea, but if that did happen, there would be another war, this time for fuel.I doubt there'd be a war and how would this make them reconnect the gas.

If your best mate got a new Gameboy and wouldn't let you on it, and you smack him, is he more likely now to let you on the Gameboy now?

Access
02-08-2008, 12:52 AM
I doubt there'd be a war and how would this make them reconnect the gas.

If your best mate got a new Gameboy and wouldn't let you on it, and you smack him, is he more likely now to let you on the Gameboy now?

Depends if you knock him the **** out, he doesn't stand much of a chance then...

Virgin Mary
02-08-2008, 02:09 AM
Obviously the UK, considering how powerful we already are in comparison. Also, we own Canada lOL.

GhostFace-
02-08-2008, 02:28 AM
not realy fair more than 75% of this forum is from europe.

but still id say UK because bush is a terrible leader

also americas going trough a strugle

Calon
02-08-2008, 03:20 AM
More space, more wealth.

More space, more tax-payers.

More money, more power.

More power, more wars.

More wars, more un-wanted deaths.

Hiro
02-08-2008, 03:43 PM
The UK, just 'cos we've been around longer.

Firehorse
02-08-2008, 04:15 PM
I'm sure the uk because if the uk was as big as the us and we had the same population and Gordon Brown still taxed us the way he does now the uk government would be richer and easily more powerful using money. Notice how a lot of things are cheaper in the us? and that isn't just because of the exchange rate :P

JackBuddy
02-08-2008, 05:04 PM
Obviously the UK, considering how powerful we already are in comparison. Also, we own Canada lOL.
oh god, dont let whats-his-face read that.

BlueTango
02-08-2008, 05:07 PM
Well considering we founded america, I'd say the UK... As Americans were the same as English people at the start of it all...

Jordy
02-08-2008, 05:50 PM
Well considering we founded america, I'd say the UK... As Americans were the same as English people at the start of it all...That may well be true but it doesn't mean we're more powerful, they've got nothing to do with the Commonwealth. It's a bit irrelevant tbh that we founded them, we may of guided them but they still came out on top and won their independence.

History won't allow Britain to progress if we just bring the oh so great British Empire into everything.

--ss--
02-08-2008, 06:07 PM
The US was born from the UK.

But at this current state and all the US is far more poweful.

Nereo
02-08-2008, 06:40 PM
I dont think that size is the most important factor in a nations power. But obviously it helps :P

tdi
02-08-2008, 06:50 PM
It's not about land size, it's about where the land is. America is wealthy as it has lots of excellent land for farming and growing things, it also has a lot of coal, oil and gas, same goes for Canada.

I'm sure this is a phrase lads are familiar with 'Size isn't everything'
Generally speaking the US doesn't have loads of oil hence the invasion of arabian countries in search of oil.

Agnostic Bear
02-08-2008, 08:53 PM
Doesn't matter anyway, the rate we're going there will be no need for oil by 2020 we will just use renewable energy / nuclear power (which is awesome).

Zak
02-08-2008, 08:53 PM
The UK is one of the most powerful countries in the world despite its size, so there's no doubt in my mind that the UK would be the most powerful.

Joemaphobe
02-08-2008, 11:26 PM
England, cos we are smarter.
nuff said.

Shawnstra
02-08-2008, 11:28 PM
UK and US are powerful for different things I guess, but logically speaking, since UK is so powerful now, adding more land space gives more land for development which will make it stronger.

Hell Singapore is like (you can drive across it at its widest point in 45 mins) the strongest if we are the size of USA :P

Pyroka
02-08-2008, 11:30 PM
The UK people are what makes the UK so successful. We're naturally strong-willed, unlike the Americans who stereotypically are selifsh and scheming. No offence to any Americans here, but you watch any American TV program & then compare it to something like Eastenders and you can see why the UK would be so much better if we were the same size as the US.

Mind you, being such a small country has given us this power to fight back to show that we're not small, we're actually quite powerful. Cor, quite a question that.

Imp!
03-08-2008, 12:44 AM
if all that land was in the uk, it'd be like the desert

tdi
03-08-2008, 02:12 PM
The UK people are what makes the UK so successful. We're naturally strong-willed, unlike the Americans who stereotypically are selifsh and scheming. No offence to any Americans here, but you watch any American TV program & then compare it to something like Eastenders and you can see why the UK would be so much better if we were the same size as the US.

Mind you, being such a small country has given us this power to fight back to show that we're not small, we're actually quite powerful. Cor, quite a question that.
exactly, i mean one fifth of americans can't find america on a world map.

--ss--
03-08-2008, 02:19 PM
exactly, i mean one fifth of americans can't find america on a world map.
But they can find the closest McDonalds branch :eusa_whis

No offence.

Monkwrestler
03-08-2008, 02:29 PM
Well and also the UK was at one point the world most powerful but it lost a fair amount of colonies after time but nothing lasts forever but still we had a quater of the globe as the phrase says 'the sun never sets on the british empire'

5,5
04-08-2008, 04:01 AM
Definatly the US becuase we have wayyy more nuclear weapons than any other country we could blow up the earth around 70 sum times with our weapons so the UK shouldnt be too hard to destroy.

Cwmbran
04-08-2008, 04:44 AM
The US, because they have more natural resources.

5,5
04-08-2008, 04:48 AM
The US, because they have more natural resources.
natural resources dont mean anything its more of who can blow the otehr one to pieces faster,

Cwmbran
04-08-2008, 05:09 AM
natural resources dont mean anything its more of who can blow the otehr one to pieces faster,

Natural resources mean everything, with out them they would not be able to get their hands on these weapons to "blow the otehr one to pieces faster,".

5,5
04-08-2008, 05:14 AM
i guess but still the us would destroy the uk with one press of the'big red button'

Jordy
04-08-2008, 11:54 AM
i guess but still the us would destroy the uk with one press of the'big red button'We're not on about a US vs UK War, we're on about would the UK be as powerful as the US if we were as big.

It's all down to the resource's of the land and it's location.

Anyway, there isn't one big red button to blow up the UK, you would need permission from the UN to launch any nuclear weapons, the chances of that are near enough impossible, and it's unlikely you'll ever be able to launch them anyway as launching a nuclear weapon is so incredibly difficult with the amount of protection the US have on them. Most the nuclear weapon's in the world have expired anyway, no one has permission to make new one's and nuclear weapons only last about 40 years, after that you need new one's. I wouldn't be surprised if none of our nuclear weapons worked.

Captain
04-08-2008, 12:07 PM
UK would be more powerful, hands down.

5,5
04-08-2008, 04:36 PM
We're not on about a US vs UK War, we're on about would the UK be as powerful as the US if we were as big.

It's all down to the resource's of the land and it's location.

Anyway, there isn't one big red button to blow up the UK, you would need permission from the UN to launch any nuclear weapons, the chances of that are near enough impossible, and it's unlikely you'll ever be able to launch them anyway as launching a nuclear weapon is so incredibly difficult with the amount of protection the US have on them. Most the nuclear weapon's in the world have expired anyway, no one has permission to make new one's and nuclear weapons only last about 40 years, after that you need new one's. I wouldn't be surprised if none of our nuclear weapons worked. the us is the most powerful nation on the planet we could take over the rest of the world very easily nontheless the un. the uk could never be as powerful as the us.

iTech
04-08-2008, 04:45 PM
the us is the most powerful nation on the planet we could take over the rest of the world very easily nontheless the un. the uk could never be as powerful as the us.


No it isn't pmsl.
Russia & China are, yes the USA is a major super-power in todays world.
But you are very uneducated to this topic. :rolleyes:


In terms of resources (Oil, so on) America wins. They have oil in Texas etc.
But in terms of military power, we are. We have the strongest and most trained army in the world, and also the best trained special forces (SAS).

Jordy
04-08-2008, 05:09 PM
the us is the most powerful nation on the planet we could take over the rest of the world very easily nontheless the un. the uk could never be as powerful as the us.All I'm trying to say is you can't use your nuclear weapons and most of them won't work, the UK, Russia, France all have that problem too. You may have around 7,000 nuclear warheads but so what, you can't use them and the UN can only access them so you have no hope :P

There's no way you could take over the rest of the world. The EU & Russian's would just fight against you and we'd win...

Holofoil
04-08-2008, 06:06 PM
And Russia would own them

e5
04-08-2008, 06:09 PM
UK because we have skinnier people.

5,5
04-08-2008, 06:26 PM
All I'm trying to say is you can't use your nuclear weapons and most of them won't work, the UK, Russia, France all have that problem too. You may have around 7,000 nuclear warheads but so what, you can't use them and the UN can only access them so you have no hope

There's no way you could take over the rest of the world. The EU & Russian's would just fight against you and we'd win...
Once I become the US' dictator we will take over the world :)

UK because we have skinnier people.
I love how much you brits milk that we're the fattest country ever, wehn no body in my family is fat and the majority of my school is pretty skinny.

Spiffing
04-08-2008, 07:07 PM
Who cares. America Florida Orlando (there we go) is much better than crappy Britain. Go on british people open your windows what dyou smell? Fish and cow ****. Americans do the same and you just smell the smell of a dam hot country (well that sounds wierd).
But yeah america's just better because it is and id happily leave everyone and everything behind to live there =D
I hate you UK!<3

5,5
04-08-2008, 07:09 PM
Haha I like your point.

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