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efq
08-08-2008, 07:03 PM
DZHAVA, Georgia - Russia sent columns of tanks and reportedly bombed Georgian air bases Friday after Georgia launched a major military offensive Friday to retake the breakaway province of South Ossetia, threatening to ignite a broader conflict.

Hundreds of civilians were reported dead in the worst outbreak of hostilities since the province won defacto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992. Witnesses said the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali was devastated.
"I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars," said Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, who had fled with her family to Dzhava, a village near the border with Russia. "It's impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged."
The fighting broke out as much of the world's attention was focused on the start of the Olympic Games and many leaders, including Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and President Bush, were in Beijing.
The timing suggests Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili may have been counting on surprise to fulfill his longtime pledge to wrest back control of South Ossetia — a key to his hold on power.
Saakashvili agreed the timing was not coincidental, but accused Russia of being the aggressor. "Most decision makers have gone for the holidays," he said in an interview with CNN. "Brilliant moment to attack a small country."
The Russian stock market plunged around 6.5 percent on Friday, apparently in response to the fighting.
Diplomats called for another emergency session of the United Nations Security Council, its second since early Friday morning seeking to prevent an all-out war.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had spoken to the parties involved and was working to end the fighting, State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos told reporters.
Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. But Saakashvili told CNN that the troops would be called home Saturday in the face of the South Ossetia fighting.
Georgia, which borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Georgia has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership — a bid Moscow regards as part of a Western effort to weaken its influence in the region.
The U.N. refugee agency said Friday that hundreds were fleeing the fighting in South Ossetia and seeking safety elsewhere in Georgia or neighboring Russia.
The leader of South Ossetia's rebel government, Eduard Kokoity, said about 1,400 people were killed in the onslaught, the Interfax news agency reported. The toll could not be independently confirmed.
Ten Russian peacekeepers were killed and 30 wounded when their barracks were hit in Georgian shelling, said Russian Ground Forces spokesman Col. Igor Konashenkov. Russia has soldiers in South Ossetia as peacekeeping forces but Georgia alleges they back the separatists.
Georgia's Foreign Ministry accused Russian aircraft of bombing two military air bases inside Georgia, inflicting some casualties and destroying several military aircraft. Rustavi 2 television said four people were killed and five wounded at the Marneuli air base.
Russia's Defense Ministry said it was sending reinforcements for its peacekeepers, and Russian state television and Georgian officials reported a convoy of tanks had crossed the border. The convoy was expected to reach the provincial capital, Tskhinvali, by evening, Channel One television said.
The International Committee of the Red Cross, citing local medical officials, said that Tskhinvali's main hospital had closed down after coming under fire from artillery.
Water, electricity and telephone lines in the city also have been cut off, ICRC spokeswoman Maia Kardava said by telephone from the Georgian capital, Tbilisi.
Georgian State Minister for Reintegration Temur Yakobashvili said government troops were now in full control of Tskhinvali, but the RIA-Novosti news agency quoted Konashenkov as saying late Friday that Russian tanks were firing on Georgian positions in the city.
"We are facing Russian aggression," said Georgia's Security Council chief Kakha Lomaya. "They have sent in their troops and weapons and they are bombing our towns."
Putin has warned that the Georgian attack will draw retaliation and the Defense Ministry pledged to protect South Ossetians, most of whom have Russian citizenship.
Chairing a session of his Security Council in the Kremlin, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev also vowed that Moscow will protect Russian citizens.
"In accordance with the constitution and federal law, I, as president of Russia, am obliged to protect lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located," Medvedev said, according to Russian news reports. "We won't allow the death of our compatriots go unpunished."
On Friday, an AP reporter saw tanks and other heavy weapons concentrating on the Russian side of the border with South Ossetia — supporting the reports of an incursion. Some villagers were fleeing into Russia.
"I saw them (the Georgians) shelling my village," said Maria, who gave only her first name. She said she and other villagers spent the night in a field and then fled toward the Russian border as the fighting escalated.
Yakobashvili said Georgian forces had shot down four Russian combat planes over Georgian territory but gave no details. Russia's Defense Ministry denied an earlier Georgia report about one Russian plane downed and had no immediate comment on the latest claim.
Yakobashvili said that one Russian plane had dropped a bomb on the Vaziani military base near the Georgian capital, but no one was hurt.
More than 1,000 U.S. Marines and soldiers were at the base last month to teach combat skills to Georgian troops. Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain.
South Ossetia officials said Georgia attacked with aircraft, armor and heavy artillery. Georgian troops fired missiles at Tskhinvali, an official said, and many buildings were on fire.
Georgia's president said Russian aircraft bombed several Georgian villages and other civilian facilities.
A senior Russian diplomat in charge of the South Ossetian conflict, Yuri Popov, dismissed the Georgian claims of Russian bombings as misinformation, the RIA-Novosti news agency reported.
Russia's Defense Ministry denounced the Georgian attack as a "dirty adventure." "Blood shed in South Ossetia will weigh on their conscience," the ministry said in a statement posted on its Web site.
Saakashvili long has pledged to restore Tbilisi's rule over South Ossetia and another breakaway province, Abkhazia. Both regions have run their own affairs without international recognition since splitting from Georgia in the early 1990s and built up ties with Moscow.
Relations between Georgia and Russia worsened notably this year as Georgia pushed to join NATO and Russia dispatched additional peacekeeper forces to Abkhazia.
The Georgian attack came just hours after Saakashvili announced a unilateral cease-fire in a television broadcast late Thursday in which he also urged South Ossetian separatist leaders to enter talks on resolving the conflict.
Georgian officials later blamed South Ossetian separatists for thwarting the cease-fire by shelling Georgian villages in the area.
Lol If America gets involved welcome WWIII

Kardan
08-08-2008, 07:05 PM
I highly doubt it will be WWIII when the Georgian president has ordered for a cease fire.

Nereo
08-08-2008, 08:09 PM
I dont think this is something to worry about it. WWIII wont come from this. Probably. ;)

Spiffing
09-08-2008, 09:52 AM
braptastic
lol another war. wouldnt bother meh

efq
09-08-2008, 09:53 AM
lol bit thick of Georgia to try take a Russia Capital. C'mon its Russia we're on about.

Pyroka
09-08-2008, 10:21 AM
Russia were BOUND to go for Georgia. There's been so much unrest between those two after the NATO announcement. Russia have been giving Georgia money to keep quiet but they've stepped out of line and have asked to join NATO (Which I think they've been conditionally accepted for?). Russia being the only country which isn't allowed in NATO, is pretty pissed off. Damn I would be, Georgia stabbed em in the back!

It's not about 'ethnic cleansing' at all, it's just putting them in their place. Russia won't cease fire, and they won't listen to reason until the Georgians understand that its Russia which have been protecting and funding their country all this time. I think Georgia are to blame for this, they're taking the lions share and the lion is definetly not happy about it.

I expect WWIII, because America will just not shut their big mouth.

Imp!
09-08-2008, 12:07 PM
WWIII and communism make a come back ;/

longlyfe
09-08-2008, 12:27 PM
china prob take over america one day tbh

Misawa
09-08-2008, 02:23 PM
China will take over the world.

Imp!
09-08-2008, 02:48 PM
China will take over the world.

Hopefully we'll be dead ^_^

Jbz-Hotboy.
09-08-2008, 03:37 PM
WWIII Here We Come lol ......... ;)

kuzkasate
09-08-2008, 04:40 PM
I am Russian.

But have you noticed since the ******* (not saying contry) came, once of a sudden theres a war between Georgia? "That country" is stirring. Where ever that country is then they all start to hate Russia.
Anyone agree?

And to add on top of that Russia didnt want war it was the Georgians that started it off. Plus how the hell! Does Georgia think they can take over. No seriously. That makes me laugh.

iTech
09-08-2008, 04:46 PM
I predicted Russia would start a war.
Search my thread. - I created it on Joshuae.

Frodo13.
09-08-2008, 08:53 PM
I am Russian.

But have you noticed since the ******* (not saying contry) came, once of a sudden theres a war between Georgia? "That country" is stirring. Where ever that country is then they all start to hate Russia.
Anyone agree?

And to add on top of that Russia didnt want war it was the Georgians that started it off. Plus how the hell! Does Georgia think they can take over. No seriously. That makes me laugh.

What the hell is the point in not naming 'the country'. Nobody has a god damm idea what your taking about.

Chipmunk
09-08-2008, 08:55 PM
Oh crap, Nuclear war. :(

JackBuddy
09-08-2008, 09:17 PM
I am Russian.

But have you noticed since the ******* (not saying contry) came, once of a sudden theres a war between Georgia? "That country" is stirring. Where ever that country is then they all start to hate Russia.
Anyone agree?

And to add on top of that Russia didnt want war it was the Georgians that started it off. Plus how the hell! Does Georgia think they can take over. No seriously. That makes me laugh.
Well this war is over that area to the north east of the Georgia, which both countries claim to be theirs. Russia are said to want that area as it provides a gateway to parts of Asia and Turkey. Georgia are not taking over. Besides, the Russians are bombing areas and ports at the other side of the country far away from the areas they are fighting over.

For the people that 'don't care'... I'm sure you will if energy prices rise again.

Coheed&Cambria
09-08-2008, 11:05 PM
WWIII and communism make a come back ;/

Unfortanatly, your right :(

Damn commis.

Jordy
09-08-2008, 11:14 PM
Why don't you all just shut the hell up about WW III, I'm sick to death of it coming up every time the word Russia is mentioned. The cold war is mostly over, the tensions aren't very high at the moment, in history they've been much closer, this war with Georgia will be over within days, the EU & US don't care too much and who would start a war with them, in Russia. It's hardly much of a war anyway, they're absolutely pwning the entire country, civilians included :(

Nuclear War? LOL don't be stupid, this has got nothing to do with Nuclear Weapon's and the UN have all the Nuclear Weapon codes anyway so no one can do anything.

World War III has been talked about since World War II ended, what makes you think that we'll be so [un]lucky to see it in the next few months or years.

Imp!
09-08-2008, 11:14 PM
I hope that the UK will remain Neutral in all of this before George Bush has anytime to convince us to get involved.

Jordy
09-08-2008, 11:17 PM
I hope that the UK will remain Neutral in all of this before George Bush has anytime to convince us to get involved. George W Bush and his administration will do nothing, they haven't done anything for a while. They won't even touch Iran at the moment or withdraw troops, they're just waiting for the elections and for the next president's administration to sort all this out.

Imp!
09-08-2008, 11:19 PM
George W Bush and his administration will do nothing, they haven't done anything for a while. They won't even touch Iran at the moment or withdraw troops, they're just waiting for the elections and for the next president's administration to sort all this out.

Hopefully they're just being pulled out, I see no point anymore

Jordy
09-08-2008, 11:23 PM
Hopefully they're just being pulled out, I see no point anymoreThings aren't improving too much any more since the troop serge last year and Basra's a bit worse off since the Brit's partially left it. Despite all the damage they've caused, they'll eventually come out of it with no success but lots of damage and deaths, Vietnam anyone..?

Bush will just leave it all to Obama and McCain, when they to power they'll have all the difficult decisions to make and get all the blame for things Bush did, they'll very soon be in the **** as it's a difficult choice.

Sepron
10-08-2008, 09:17 AM
If we did go to war with russia then its the end of the world. Im sure we are not that stupid...

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