What happens after you die?

[Imp!]

A question for everyone and I'd appreciate it if you respected everyones views :)

[Abbie.]

even though i was brought up to think you go to heaven, how?

er, u just die? nothing happens, you just dont wake up, but dont dream..:S

[Heart Break Kid]

i hope u turn into spirit/ghost :)

[Imp!]

i hope u turn into spirit/ghost :)

thats what I hope for two, or heaven, I mean because of all the apparations with mary I find it hard to believe not in heaven :)

[Jaiisun]

This depends on the circumstances.

For example,
If you die of a sudden heart attack, it's likely that you'll clutch your chest and fall to the ground.

Jay x

[Heart Break Kid]

Too*
i personnally am not religous
but i believe that you must go somewhere when you pass

[cocaine]

WHEN you die?

well, heart stops beating, blood stops flowing, oxygen doesn't go to your brain, and you slip into a state known as death.

sorry but i had to :D

[Imp!]

WHEN you die?

well, heart stops beating, blood stops flowing, oxygen doesn't go to your brain, and you slip into a state known as death.

sorry but i had to :D

Hey everyone has their views :)

[cocaine]

Hey everyone has their views :)


no it wasnt my view, its a fact lol.

i think you meant AFTER you die, but sorry if i'm wrong :P

[Imp!]

no it wasnt my view, its a fact lol.

i think you meant AFTER you die, but sorry if i'm wrong :P

Yes I didn't mean how you die, I'm not that stupid ;)

[Virgin Mary]

If you're dead then you're dead.. your body has ceased to function and you are no longer alive. Whatever happens thereafter to your body is decided upon by your next of kin/estate/council - you could be buried, frozen, turned into a ring or turned into dust.

[Loqo]

Always made me think and I dont like to think about it, very strange. Their will never be a true answer.

[mangle]

You collapse and then nothing!

[buttons]

these replies do not make me feel good lol :(

[Hiro]

Eternal darkness.

[clueless]

You go to heaven and run around forests making daisy chains with God.

duh

[Fez]

Now I might rant on a bit, but keep up with me.

Scientifically speaking, there is nothing, your body doesn't feel, sense or move. You are dead. You cannot feel pain and you are imobile. The most obvious thing that happens when this happens - darkness.

But does that sound bad? When you die, you can't hear, you can't sense and you can't be tormented by everyday life, when you die you are at peace. You can be tortued and condemned all your life, but the moment you step into the darkness, is the moment you find the peace.

It doesn't sound THAT bad if you think about it.

Just my Purple view though ;)

[Kardan]

Nothing. You see and feel nothing. You are nothing. Your soul ceases to exist.

[Malachy]

Now I might rant on a bit, but keep up with me.

Scientifically speaking, there is nothing, your body doesn't feel, sense or move. You are dead. You cannot feel pain and you are imobile. The most obvious thing that happens when this happens - darkness.

But does that sound bad? When you die, you can't hear, you can't sense and you can't be tormented by everyday life, when you die you are at peace. You can be tortued and condemned all your life, but the moment you step into the darkness, is the moment you find the peace.

It doesn't sound THAT bad if you think about it.

Just my Purple view though ;)
I'd be scared lol.

[Hiro]

In all honesty, I'd rather be dead than live in the **** world we live in, but I'd go out in style.

[PaintYourTarget]

In all honesty, I'd rather be dead than live in the **** world we live in, but I'd go out in style.
Well go try it and if there is some sort of afterlife then tell us, yeah?

[Hiro]

Well go try it and if there is some sort of afterlife then tell us, yeah?

I'm not suicidal...and I guess it's not my time yet. But, what's the point in existing if, in this world, we are so corrupt that around every corner could be someone waiting to kill us...

[Andys]

you die and thats it.

[Heart Break Kid]

If you're dead then you're dead.. your body has ceased to function and you are no longer alive. Whatever happens thereafter to your body is decided upon by your next of kin/estate/council - you could be buried, frozen, turned into a ring or turned into dust.

or a diamond =]

[Moh]

In all honesty, I'd rather be dead than live in the **** world we live in, but I'd go out in style.
Meet me at the Humber bridge :D
What's better than been sucked into the water unable to get to the surface :D

Back on topic, erm, I don't think anything happens to you. Just complete darkness... look on the bright side, you wont know that when your dead :D

[benjamin]

You collapse and then nothing!
you won't collapse if you're already on the floor babe.

[PaintYourTarget]

I'm not suicidal...and I guess it's not my time yet. But, what's the point in existing if, in this world, we are so corrupt that around every corner could be someone waiting to kill us...
But around a different corner could be someone waiting to love us? Take the Troops in Afghanistan, yes, there's people wanting to kill them and they're existing in a **** hole, yet they're surrounded by people who are practically family making them laugh and smile. Love exists even where there is great hate. Harry Potter taught us this lesson.

[Virgin Mary]

However, there is no darkness and you can't be at peace because these are things for which you have to be alive in order to perceive.

[Nick.]

This depends on the circumstances.

For example,
If you die of a sudden heart attack, it's likely that you'll clutch your chest and fall to the ground.

Jay x

I think the OP was asking where you think you 'go' when you die ;)

[PaintYourTarget]

If you're a scientologist, you believe your Thetan abandons your human vessal and goes to Venus to be stripped of all your conscience knowledge and memories and replanted in a new born baby host.

[ToxicPaddy]

I'm a catholic so I have traditional catholic views of heaven and hell, but everyone has their own opinion :)

[DrLacero]

Ever had an operation? Count down from 10, you get to about 8 and you're gone. It's like that. There is nothing, at all, for eternity.

[Christian]

It's something we will never really know unless the Bible is true but even that we can't really even prove.

[5,5]

I'd like to become a ghost and scare people

[1231619]

u turn into ghost
:)!

[cocaine]

Well go try it and if there is some sort of afterlife then tell us, yeah?

lol my RS teacher said "i dont know what there is after life, but when it happens to me i'll come back and let ya know"

[N-Dubz]

I do believe in an afterlife, a bit like the film "Ghost".

[Imp!]

I'm a catholic so I have traditional catholic views of heaven and hell, but everyone has their own opinion :)


same as me then :)

[Zabuza]

I think you're born again. Everyone says, for a death there is a birth! Like your just another person, with no memory of your past life. There was a programme once about a little boy who kept having dreams of him being somewhere else with another family and he took people to another country and named a family that lived in a certain house o____o

[AlexOC]

Your Brain Just Stops

Thats All, Nothing Else Happens, You Don't Even Know You Exist, Because You Cant Think anyMore.

But Imagine what you could do if you were a ghost

[Plank]

Do you remember what happened before you were born? No, because there was nothing. You felt nothing, you were nothing, you didn't exist but the world was still going.

That's what I think happens when you die - just like before you were born.

[Neversoft]

After you die, the place you go to is nothingness. There is nothing beyond death. That is my opinion.

[Hated]

I'm not suicidal...and I guess it's not my time yet. But, what's the point in existing if, in this world, we are so corrupt that around every corner could be someone waiting to kill us...
Lol that's silly
its ur life to live
just because you don't agree with some things in the world doesn't stop you from being able to do anything you want

on topic i think the image in your head you have of what heaven is, is where you go to when you die.

[stratosphere2]

I get pretty confused when I try to imagine just nothing when you die.

[Imp!]

I get pretty confused when I try to imagine just nothing when you die.

lol same as me

[Breakfloor]

im a satanist, so i beleive you dont even see darkness, like sleep but you never wake up or dream.

[Zabuza]

kinda creepy i mean yeah it is like when your sleeping.
But think when your sleeping, you dont even realise it =S
One time i thought it was like some film where everyone was dead but they didnt know it so we could have all died years ago but we dont know :D

[luce]

I belive you go to heaven, or hell. Becuase i'm a christian.. but i'm really not narrow minded :) so i would talk about other ideas.. but i don't think they would change my beliefs :)

[Fez]

Another theory I have about death

They say that your whole life flashes before your eyes before you die, but the only people to have seen this have also said ''It didn't show it all.''

But what if, instead of actually dying, in the very last second of life, you relive the feelings, thoughts and memories? There is a rare condition in which you can remember everything, I'm sure there was a recent post about a woman who had it, on here, so maybe instead of dying, you just go into an endless cycle?

I don't personally believe this, but it is scientifically possible.

[Abbie.]

HMM

i used to think u went on an elevater made of clouds and saw like random family sitting on clouds LOL

when iwas like 10

[PaintYourTarget]

Another theory I have about death

They say that your whole life flashes before your eyes before you die, but the only people to have seen this have also said ''It didn't show it all.''

But what if, instead of actually dying, in the very last second of life, you relive the feelings, thoughts and memories? There is a rare condition in which you can remember everything, I'm sure there was a recent post about a woman who had it, on here, so maybe instead of dying, you just go into an endless cycle?

I don't personally believe this, but it is scientifically possible.
Yeah, and that's wear De Ja Vu comes from apparently. You remember reliving it... but you consciencely choose what decisions you make there and then, same with those around creating the fork in the road alternate realities... but also, there's the factor of new people being introduced into the world and stuff, would all those be memories? Would your body be just in the ground? Could it be like the year 3000 now?

[.:TeamAmerica:.]

I'm not a religious person, but I like to belive there is another place we go to when we pass on. Even if such a place does not exist, it mearly comforts the mind.

But if you think of death as 'thats is, nothing' I personally can't bare to think this, as a matter of fact, you can't think of nothing. Never seeing light again, never hearing, never feeling, never seeing family again, never. It scares me.

[today]

I'm not a religious person, but I like to belive there is another place we go to when we pass on. Even if such a place does not exist, it mearly comforts the mind.

But if you think of death as 'thats is, nothing' I personally can't bare to think this, as a matter of fact, you can't think of nothing. Never seeing light again, never hearing, never feeling, never seeing family again, never. It scares me.
You'll be dead so it wont matter? :S

[Dan2nd]

I'm not to sure what to beleve there are a lot of stories out there which are quite strange. One that I find quite interesting is about this little boy who has shown a real interest in old war planes since the age of 2 and has had nightmares which match real life events of a man who died during WW2 in a plane crash. His parents now beleive their son is this man reincarnated.

Theres more about it here: clickity click (http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1593595Cm3wmjRH?jsonParams=%257B%2522user%2522%25 3A%2522sonnihoney%2522%252C%2522veohOnly%2522%253A true%252C%2522order%2522%253A%2522mr%2522%257D&context=CHANNEL&viewType=user)

[.:TeamAmerica:.]

You'll be dead so it wont matter? :S

Yes, but do you not find it strange. You only life for a few years here and then its over. It sounds strange, but I can't get my head around it.

[Stephen08]

Anyone fancy getting killed and then posting back with an experience log?

[Imp!]

I'm not a religious person, but I like to belive there is another place we go to when we pass on. Even if such a place does not exist, it mearly comforts the mind.

But if you think of death as 'thats is, nothing' I personally can't bare to think this, as a matter of fact, you can't think of nothing. Never seeing light again, never hearing, never feeling, never seeing family again, never. It scares me.

This is how I used to think and then there were these religious canadian people came ot my school and I totally changed

[Bef]

If you're dead then you're dead.. your body has ceased to function and you are no longer alive. Whatever happens thereafter to your body is decided upon by your next of kin/estate/council - you could be buried, frozen, turned into a ring or turned into dust.
They r the words of gods chosen virgin... ye shall listen ;o


Well, u do come back in a way if u think about it.
Ur body i mean, when u get buried u decompose and your like in the ground and then things grow from that ground... and animals eat the things that grow... and then people eat the animals.
So really we are all going to get eaten!

But thats your body, iv no idea what happens to the bit some people call your soul... it must go somewhere, it cant just dissapear. It could stop working i guess and just be this invisible usless thing but meh.
God has never spoken to me and nor have any ghosts therefore i can not say that either exist but then again iv no evidence that they dont exist so im just open minded...

Maybe u just stay in dreams, so it can kind of be like a heaven i guess...

[Leetzgirl]

Wow, this thread gives me creeps.

[Imp!]

I dont think I've given my theory, So! I believe that when you die you have a part of you called your soul. My image of a soul is that it is an outline of your body, like a ghost almost. Then I believe you are taken into the air up into the clouds but not like the human clouds and then there is heaven.

oh and dont dis pls x

[N-Dubz]

people spend way to long trying to work this one out.

i believe we stay on earth if we have unfinished business and when we do cross over we continue to wait for all the ones we have loved and once all your loved ones are with you you're sent back down to make a new life of loved ones and start the cycle again.

& isnt just believing theres nothing after death depressing?

[Oleh]

I have the strangest idea, Your body goes and shuts off but you can still see, people close your eyelids when you die so you dont have to see the horrors suck as getting eat by maggots and dug up as a fossil and stuff , but then again i belive that the moment you die you are re-incarnated as a new born baby.

[MJJ]

I believe in reincarnation.

[Mr.Sam]

Nothing.

This thread reminds me of this image.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2936/y0db91qsciencemeetsrelivu6.jpg

[benjamin]

Nothing.

This thread reminds me of this image.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2936/y0db91qsciencemeetsrelivu6.jpg
LOL thats amazing

[J0SH]

Personally I think you get born again and have to build up the life hetradidge(sp) again but with a whole different family and everything.

[Cypher-]

Too*
i personnally am not religous
but i believe that you must go somewhere when you pass

Why must?

We are just a heightened form of animal with better instincts and more intelligence but that doesnt mean that we differ from them anyway when we die. I dont believe in any religion, they are all made by men who want power and who forgot themselves that they will actually die and wont be able to take any of it with them.

Anyone can start a religion these days, look at Hubbard who wrote a book that had a fake religion called Scientology in it and even he said it wasnt intended to be serious, but what does everyone do? Its laughable and I feel slightly pitiful for people who drag their tired *** out of bed on a sunday morning to sit and listen to some old guy dictate their lives and basically give them a proverbial slap on the wrist for being "sinful"

Then again lets remember those deeply religious priests who molest young choir boys, but then God forgives them doesnt he :eusa_clap I respect everyone for having a view or a faith to believe in but Id rather have everyone just believe in themselves than putting their faith in a symbol noone alive today has even seen.

[Splinter]

Nothing happens its very simple. And just because that answer isn't comforting or nice it doesn't have an impact on the truth of it. We have no reason to suppose their is life after death and our wish for it is just proof of our child like fear of that which we don't know.

Its liberating to know this is all you have, this is your one chance to do something and live, religion takes that impetus to live away with promises of eternal life.

[Decode]

I don't think reincarnation is real because the population of humans is rising, so there would be new people born who havn't been reincarnated. However in Hinduism they belive you can be re-incarnated as a tree or as another animal.

I don't believe in hevern and hell, they just seem too far fetched. According to wikipedia hell is underground and scientists know what its like under the earth I think so I don't think its real.

Im not sure about ghosts- There are loads of programs on TV about them, but the people on the programs never actualy capture like a full ghost with a body and head, its usaly just a flashing light or a red glow on a phermal imaging camera.

Im not sure what to believe, but I don't think when you die its the end.

[Crimson]

I laugh at people who say "It's simple" or "It's obvious that.."

The right things to say are; "I think it's simple" or "I think it's obvious that.."
No one knows. No one will know.

I like to believe that there is somewhere that we go. But who knows..

[Misawa]

You rot in the ground.

But. I wouldn't mind being a ghost.

[Slowpoke]

You rot in the ground.

Or you're burnt to dust. ;)

[Misawa]

Or that ;)

[Splinter]

I laugh at people who say "It's simple" or "It's obvious that.."

The right things to say are; "I think it's simple" or "I think it's obvious that.."
No one knows. No one will know.

I like to believe that there is somewhere that we go. But who knows..

Well its not "but who knows" is it. All the evidence tells us that we live in a purely material world devoid of spirits.

[Crimson]

Evidence showed that the world was flat. That was because no one ventured deep enough into the investigation and people followed only one belief.

Only until the investigation was then actually given more evidence. The world was round.

So; you can never ever say something is 100%.
If we assumed we knew everything, why are there scientists these days. Statements change every day and so there is no one on a certain thing.

You can have evidence for an unfair test. Can you not?

xoxoxooxox

Oh;
And also on the fact that it's never a secured debate - it is "Who knows". No scientists would ever touch the topic because there's no way of proving it.

[Imp!]

Id also like to point out religious apparations... sounds like pretty hard evidence to me

[N-Dubz]

there is no 100% evidence that there is no spirits or ghosts?

there are physic's and mediums out there you cannot say they all imagine it.

and people can claim its obvious what happens after death but truth is you dont & you wont know until you die.

i think its nice to think there is something after our lives otherwise it would make death seem so much worse

[Imp!]

I have a strong belief in an after life thanks to my religion - so it is my choice to believe what I want and not for you to criticise :)


Lucia then asked if they would go to heaven and she was told yes, she and Jacinta would go to heaven, but Francisco would need to say many rosaries first. - Children of Fatima



She responded, "I do not promise to make you happy in this life, but in the next." - Lourdes

[MrGazet]

i believe we will go somewhere else and hav an afterlife..

[Splinter]

Evidence showed that the world was flat. That was because no one ventured deep enough into the investigation and people followed only one belief.

Only until the investigation was then actually given more evidence. The world was round.

So; you can never ever say something is 100%.
If we assumed we knew everything, why are there scientists these days. Statements change every day and so there is no one on a certain thing.

You can have evidence for an unfair test. Can you not?

xoxoxooxox

Oh;
And also on the fact that it's never a secured debate - it is "Who knows". No scientists would ever touch the topic because there's no way of proving it.

Rather stupid example because firstly the evidence never showed the earth to be flat, the earth it curved and of course thats still a material example. And something like the afterlife is a spiritual invention, the point being ofcourse we have no reason to believe anything spiritual exists. The question you must answer therefore in someone who believes it is why do you think there is an afterlife?

And to answer it in a reasonable way you need to get past wishthinking.

[roulette]

how unfair is it, just thinking of death is weird. man i don't wanna die i wanna live
maybe its non stop dreaming but if its all black you wouldn't know because you have no imagination :@:S
but this is always on my mind.

[Neil]

When you die...You're dead..

I guess if you're buried you'll decompose over time after dying, maggots will do what maggots do and you'll be a pile of bones in a big box at the end of it

[Imp!]

When you die...You're dead..

I guess if you're buried you'll decompose over time after dying, maggots will do what maggots do and you'll be a pile of bones in a big box at the end of it

and your proof of no after life?

[Neil]

and your proof of no after life?

You can't prove an "after life" isn't there, but you can't prove it is either, no good turning this into a debate since without proof the only sure thing is when you die, you're dead, it will never be possible to prove what really happens

[Imp!]

You can't prove an "after life" isn't there, but you can't prove it is either, no good turning this into a debate since without proof the only sure thing is when you die, you're dead, it will never be possible to prove what really happens

again I follow my religion; this my choice and my belief nobody has to believe in what anyone says :)

Lucia then asked if they would go to heaven and she was told yes, she and Jacinta would go to heaven, but Francisco would need to say many rosaries first.
- Children of Fatima


She responded, "I do not promise to make you happy in this life, but in the next."
- Lourdes

[Recursion]

You come from nothing, you go back to nothing, you loose nothing.

Although I would like to live on into Heaven or something, Im a confirmed Christian so ye.

I think you go to Heaven and lead your perfect life, be with the people you want to be with etc...

I want to get either buried in a Church or cremated and made into a diamond and put on a ring.

[Ezzie.]

To the people who keep saying "you cannot disprove the afterlife, thus it is possible" is a little flawed idea.
You cannot disprove fairies, giant dragons which breathe fire, there's always a chance that they could be about, but the chance is insanely minute. Thus using that reasoning that just because it cannot be disproved gives it some merit, I could start believing in [as Dawkins often states] : the flying spaghetti monster, you cannot disprove him, may his tomato and pasta righteousness be swift and tasty!

As for the actual subject.. you cannot rebuke the afterlife- but the chances of it to be "there" seem to be quite minimal, it seems to be wishful thinking, one of the beauties of our lives is that it's so short, and we have to enjoy each drop of life we have and cherish that. An afterlife filled with endless time, endless opportunity to fullfil every ambition, desire, pleasure surely would become stale after a time?

Alas, maybe I'm wrong, and maybe I'm not, I've got to admit it would be very interesting to talk to a "creator" or "higher being" and ask them about all the beauties of the universe and how It actually decided to spontaneously create said universe.

[Mr.Sam]

No, they thought it was a sphere. Terry Jones, who is something of a medievalist blames Washington Irving, the American writer, for one of those beings who started this "lie", as he puts it. The Greeks knew it was round, Chaucer knew it was round; Roger Bacon wrote about the curvature in the earth in the 13th century.

Since the 4th century B.C., almost no one in the world has believed that the earth is flat. It's a common misconception, and indeed, the song lyric: "They all laughed at Christopher Columbus when he said the world was round." But he didn't think that the world was round; he thought it was actually pear-shaped, funnily enough.


Evidence showed that the world was flat. That was because no one ventured deep enough into the investigation and people followed only one belief.

Only until the investigation was then actually given more evidence. The world was round.

So; you can never ever say something is 100%.
If we assumed we knew everything, why are there scientists these days. Statements change every day and so there is no one on a certain thing.

You can have evidence for an unfair test. Can you not?

xoxoxooxox

Oh;
And also on the fact that it's never a secured debate - it is "Who knows". No scientists would ever touch the topic because there's no way of proving it.

[Bef]

Nothing.

This thread reminds me of this image.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2936/y0db91qsciencemeetsrelivu6.jpg

Quite fitting!
and i read your signiture on a packet of rizla earlier ;)


Why must?

We are just a heightened form of animal with better instincts and more intelligence but that doesnt mean that we differ from them anyway when we die. I dont believe in any religion, they are all made by men who want power and who forgot themselves that they will actually die and wont be able to take any of it with them.

Anyone can start a religion these days, look at Hubbard who wrote a book that had a fake religion called Scientology in it and even he said it wasnt intended to be serious, but what does everyone do? Its laughable and I feel slightly pitiful for people who drag their tired *** out of bed on a sunday morning to sit and listen to some old guy dictate their lives and basically give them a proverbial slap on the wrist for being "sinful"

Then again lets remember those deeply religious priests who molest young choir boys, but then God forgives them doesnt he :eusa_clap I respect everyone for having a view or a faith to believe in but Id rather have everyone just believe in themselves than putting their faith in a symbol noone alive today has even seen.
but didnt u no all dogs go to heaven ;)


Nothing happens its very simple. And just because that answer isn't comforting or nice it doesn't have an impact on the truth of it. We have no reason to suppose their is life after death and our wish for it is just proof of our child like fear of that which we don't know.

Its liberating to know this is all you have, this is your one chance to do something and live, religion takes that impetus to live away with promises of eternal life.
But we dont know that? You can get all the bits to make a man, u can get all the right cells, right parts... all the stuff you can see but u could never make a human, or an animal for that matter cos thers this part that u cant see, cant hold or touch (what some people call the soul) the question is, where does that come from? where does it go after your body has decomposed and become maggot food?
when u destroy something, whever its burning it, breaking it, whatever, the parts all end up somewhere.
everything is made up of some sort of energy or something and that cant be completely gotten rid of. so what is a soul made of?


there is no 100% evidence that there is no spirits or ghosts?

there are physic's and mediums out there you cannot say they all imagine it.

and people can claim its obvious what happens after death but truth is you dont & you wont know until you die.

i think its nice to think there is something after our lives otherwise it would make death seem so much worse
Got to admit iv read some pretty freaky stuff about physcics being used in murder cases and being able to solve them!

[Imp!]

To the people who keep saying "you cannot disprove the afterlife, thus it is possible" is a little flawed idea.
You cannot disprove fairies, giant dragons which breathe fire, there's always a chance that they could be about, but the chance is insanely minute.



There is a difference between fantasy and religion

I'm pretty sure you don't take a GCSE in fantasy :)

[Mr.Sam]

There is no evidence that (any) god exists

[Mikey]

I think your body stops working and you never wake up

[Imp!]

There is no evidence that (any) god exists

think its called the vatican

[Mr.Sam]

That doesn't prove that a god exists.

"Oh look a church, that means god must exist"

Humans look for an answer to everything, before we had scientific knowledge the easiest explanation they could come up with was a supernatural power/god(s) which answered everything, we now have science knowledge and know other wise.

[Bef]

There is a difference between fantasy and religion

I'm pretty sure you don't take a GCSE in fantasy :)


english lit?

[Ezzie.]

There is a difference between fantasy and religion

I'm pretty sure you don't take a GCSE in fantasy :)


Oh here we go..

For a start, GCSE relgious education is more of a history tool than it is to convert students to a certain religion, religion is very important historically and I personally think it is interesting seeing what people used to and still do believe, flawed they may be. Not sure if that was what you was precisely getting at but I thought I'd clarify anyhow.


Now we move onto myths; myths are in the realm of fantasy, such as Zeus and Hercules- these amongst a pantheon of other Gods are deemed mythological now, but once they were deemed a main-stream religion with various offshoot cults worship the various array of Gods.

myth
noun


A traditional story or tale that has no proven factual basis: fable (http://www.answers.com/topic/fable), legend (http://www.answers.com/topic/legend). See belief/unbelief (http://www.answers.com/topic/belief-unbelief), real/imaginary (http://www.answers.com/topic/real-imaginary), religion (http://www.answers.com/topic/religion-similar-words).



Now tell me what the difference is between Zeus, and any of the modern day "gods"? It just seems the same thing.. a fantasy used to explain things which people don't understand, yet we now have a vaster understanding of the universe than ever before.

So basically all God's now and the afterlife etc, are all myths thus inherantly in the realm of fantasy as there is no evidence supporting a christian/catholic/islamic/etc God. (lol vatican?)

[Imp!]

That doesn't prove that a god exists.

"Oh look a church, that means god must exist"

Humans look for an answer to everything, before we had scientific knowledge the easiest explanation they could come up with was a supernatural power/god(s) which answered everything, we now have science knowledge and know other wise.

soooo science proves everything then?

[Neil]

soooo science proves everything then?

Science proves the world wasn't created by a giant holy man floating in mid air, Science proves how a planet is created, Science shows us the chemical reaction between various elements, the bible is a book filled with stories, kinda like a portable library, a book can't prove anything, Science can prove things, obviously not everything but I think one of the million telescopes around the world would of seen a giant flying man at one point or another

[SHOPLIFTER]

i'd like to think you went to heaven when you're dead and you're there with all your dead family/friends, i don't believe that happens though. i reckon you just die and that's the end. and i have no religion.

[Imp!]

Science proves the world wasn't created by a giant holy man floating in mid air, Science proves how a planet is created, Science shows us the chemical reaction between various elements, the bible is a book filled with stories, kinda like a portable library, a book can't prove anything, Science can prove things, obviously not everything but I think one of the million telescopes around the world would of seen a giant flying man at one point or another

shame scinece cant explain how people have been healed due to springs such as places in Lourdes but hey maybe there is something in the water that makes you regain your vision and movement of a paralysed arm. I wonder why scientists have not yet been able to find this?

[Ezzie.]

Well for a start they could be staged.. you know, a religion that is completely founded on lies and stolen beliefs could do that?

Or alternatively have you heard of a placebo effect?

[Technologic]

You turn into buddha

[Neil]

shame scinece cant explain how people have been healed due to springs such as places in Lourdes but hey maybe there is something in the water that makes you regain your vision and movement of a paralysed arm. I wonder why scientists have not yet been able to find this?

If it was actually true I'm sure an explanation can come up, water can't cure blindness or paralysis, if it could don't think you people would swarm over there? :rolleyes:

You have your beliefs, we have ours, you can't try and force your beliefs onto someone, I will never believe in any religion because it's all a bunch of rubbish to me, to each his own and all but as far as I see it everything in the universe is down to science, whether you wanna believe it or not

[Imp!]

If it was actually true I'm sure an explanation can come up, water can't cure blindness or paralysis, if it could don't think you people would swarm over there? :rolleyes:

You have your beliefs, we have ours, you can't try and force your beliefs onto someone, I will never believe in any religion because it's all a bunch of rubbish to me, to each his own and all but as far as I see it everything in the universe is down to science, whether you wanna believe it or not

You really havent been to Lourdes then :S Yes I do have my beliefs but I have not been as harsh as you saying that the religion is rubbish to you and that everything is down to science and that it is up to me whether I want to believe it or not? Well guess what? I dont believe it. Yes science may be responsible for many things that happen through the world but there are things in this world that aren't going to be explain in science :)

oh btw in answer to lourdes water



In samples of normal table water, the level of pH is significantly lower than that of reference samples, when an aliquot of water originating from the springs close to the sanctuary to the Virgin Mary at Lourdes at a final dilution rate of 1:400,000 parts has been added to the sample of water tested. The differences as compared to the reference waters, that is those samples to which the aliquot of Lourdes water were not added, were tested by analysis of the variance and were found to be highly significant. The measurements were conducted on approximately 600 samples. It was demonstrated that the phenomenon observed could not be attributed to chemical species present in the Lourdes water which can justify the lowering of the pH in relation to the dilution rate with which the work was performed.

[Mr.Sam]

religion has no hard evidence what so ever and science does.

[Holofoil]

Lol my auntie was offered a job at a charity raising money for people with illnesses to travel to Lourdes, and she just had a go at them and said she'd rather donate to science to help them discover cures that actually work, and aren't total rubbish. If going to Lourdes actually helped, it would be pretty obvious.

[Mr.Sam]

if Lourdes really worked they would be using the water in hospitals.

[Virgin Mary]

That water is my piss ;> of course it's going to do wonders.

[Susie Dent]

That water is my piss ;> of course it's going to do wonders.

After running DNA tests, the pube found in the water WAS from an Arabic virgin.

[Agnostic Bear]

you decompose, or in the case of cremation, you burn

simple as that really