hhgs.net HC sofa Value...

[AgnesIO]

Just check out hhgs.net's hc sofa value...

30rd xD

I really do wonder where they get there values from...

Closed by Immenseman (Assistant General Manager).

[Jam]

Because most people do 10x 3 cred norms per HC and you don't see people trade 75 creds worth of furni for an HC. kthxbi.

[Reecey]

Message from -:undertaker:-

I knew one of you would post on HxF something like this, I was just waiting.

The Club Sofa has been decreased to 30 RD on HHGS Values because? - IT GOES FOR 30 RD. When was the last time you saw a CS going for 75 RD/80 RD worth of pines, yukkas, lodge corners, mode bars, lodge bars, area bars and pods - the list is endless.

The adverage value on the Club Sofa is 30 RD, this means we change it to 30 RD just like we moved the ione's gifts to supers like you all voted for in March 2006. We are no afraid of upsetting some of the people who will find any reason to launch a hate campaign against a values site because a certain rare has changed despite popular opinion/it being the right change.

You arguement is even destroyed on the forum your having a go at me on; http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=507019

Lovely of you to of posted my reason which is clearly written in bright red on www.hhgs.net/values (http://www.hhgs.net/values) (oh wait you didn't) - perhaps because it condradicts what your saying on here?

I'll do you the liberty of posting it;

The Club Sofa has been dropped in value due to it failing to go for 80 RD nowadays ever since credits were introduced to the hotel. The Club Sofa is now valued at 30 RD rather than the previous 80 RD. The majority of norm trades for 1 Club Sofa is 10 items (3 Credits each in the catalogue) - That means 10x30 = 30 RD so that is the adverage price for the Club Sofa. If you disagree then let me ask you this, when was the last time you saw a Club Sofa go for 80 RD//20+ Pineapple Plants//20+ Yukkas//80 Rubber Ducks+// - These changes do not make you any poorer by using HHGS, nor any richer. This is a long overdue change and it is clear that the Club Sofa does no longer go for anywhere near 80 RD. You can read more on this, just follow the link; http://www.hhgs.net/showthread.php?p=59362#post59362

I wonder where you get your common sense from mate, if you really have any at all.

Regards,
-:undertaker:-

[AgnesIO]

Because most people do 10x 3 cred norms per HC and you don't see people trade 75 creds worth of furni for an HC. kthxbi.


It has always been 70/75rd even before habbo exchange so it makes no sense

[Jam]

Message from -:undertaker:-

I knew one of you would post on HxF something like this, I was just waiting.

The Club Sofa has been decreased to 30 RD on HHGS Values because? - IT GOES FOR 30 RD. When was the last time you saw a CS going for 75 RD/80 RD worth of pines, yukkas, lodge corners, mode bars, lodge bars, area bars and pods - the list is endless.

The adverage value on the Club Sofa is 30 RD, this means we change it to 30 RD just like we moved the ione's gifts to supers like you all voted for in March 2006. We are no afraid of upsetting some of the people who will find any reason to launch a hate campaign against a values site because a certain rare has changed despite popular opinion/it being the right change.

You arguement is even destroyed on the forum your having a go at me on; http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=507019 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=507019)

Lovely of you to of posted my reason which is clearly written in bright red on www.hhgs.net/values (http://www.hhgs.net/values) (oh wait you didn't) - perhaps because it condradicts what your saying on here?

I'll do you the liberty of posting it;

The Club Sofa has been dropped in value due to it failing to go for 80 RD nowadays ever since credits were introduced to the hotel. The Club Sofa is now valued at 30 RD rather than the previous 80 RD. The majority of norm trades for 1 Club Sofa is 10 items (3 Credits each in the catalogue) - That means 10x30 = 30 RD so that is the adverage price for the Club Sofa. If you disagree then let me ask you this, when was the last time you saw a Club Sofa go for 80 RD//20+ Pineapple Plants//20+ Yukkas//80 Rubber Ducks+// - These changes do not make you any poorer by using HHGS, nor any richer. This is a long overdue change and it is clear that the Club Sofa does no longer go for anywhere near 80 RD. You can read more on this, just follow the link; http://www.hhgs.net/showthread.php?p=59362#post59362 (http://www.hhgs.net/showthread.php?p=59362#post59362)

I wonder where you get your common sense from mate, if you really have any at all.

Regards,
-:undertaker:-

[AgnesIO]

Message from -:undertaker:-

I knew one of you would post on HxF something like this, I was just waiting.

The Club Sofa has been decreased to 30 RD on HHGS Values because? - IT GOES FOR 30 RD. When was the last time you saw a CS going for 75 RD/80 RD worth of pines, yukkas, lodge corners, mode bars, lodge bars, area bars and pods - the list is endless.

The adverage value on the Club Sofa is 30 RD, this means we change it to 30 RD just like we moved the ione's gifts to supers like you all voted for in March 2006. We are no afraid of upsetting some of the people who will find any reason to launch a hate campaign against a values site because a certain rare has changed despite popular opinion/it being the right change.

You arguement is even destroyed on the forum your having a go at me on; http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=507019 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=507019)

Lovely of you to of posted my reason which is clearly written in bright red on www.hhgs.net/values (http://www.hhgs.net/values) (oh wait you didn't) - perhaps because it condradicts what your saying on here?

I'll do you the liberty of posting it;

The Club Sofa has been dropped in value due to it failing to go for 80 RD nowadays ever since credits were introduced to the hotel. The Club Sofa is now valued at 30 RD rather than the previous 80 RD. The majority of norm trades for 1 Club Sofa is 10 items (3 Credits each in the catalogue) - That means 10x30 = 30 RD so that is the adverage price for the Club Sofa. If you disagree then let me ask you this, when was the last time you saw a Club Sofa go for 80 RD//20+ Pineapple Plants//20+ Yukkas//80 Rubber Ducks+// - These changes do not make you any poorer by using HHGS, nor any richer. This is a long overdue change and it is clear that the Club Sofa does no longer go for anywhere near 80 RD. You can read more on this, just follow the link; http://www.hhgs.net/showthread.php?p=59362#post59362 (http://www.hhgs.net/showthread.php?p=59362#post59362)

I wonder where you get your common sense from mate, if you really have any at all.

Regards,
-:undertaker:-

Lmao, but why change it now? and I see some furnis for for 20 oper hc, so surely that makes it 40rd?

[Jam]

Undertaker: "The AVERAGE is 30 RD worth of normals, although I accept you do sometimes get below and above'

[-Danube-]

Just check out hhgs.net's hc sofa value...

30rd xD

I really do wonder where they get there values from...
It makes total sense though, i've been discussing this for a while (before it was posted on HHGS) and i think it makes sense

10 Lodge corners = 30RD

Most people trade 10 Lodge corners for a HC so HC should = 30RD

Just cos they aint Habbox it doesn't make them wrong :P

[Slowpoke]

It was a brave move by HHGS and it makes complete sense.

[Hazza]

Good move by Dan (undertaker). He's always wondered about the HC Sofa value and I agree with him on this one. Maybe Habbox should take a leaf out of his book but no I forgot, any changes in the RV market that undertaker makes Habbox never wants to do the same (even though this is the logical and I think correct value).

[--ss--]

70 credits is far too high and no one pays that much.
Most people do sell 10 lodge corners for a hc but you normally find it's usually 15 pods / other items per hc so it's more suited around 40/50 credits.

[msb.]

sad to say it but I agree 100% it isn't really 70rd but then that means if hc goes down loads, supers would be worth less which therefore people may moan.

[no waiii]

Ye, tbh habbo need to chage this no one gets 23.3furnis per hc so the really need to lower it.

[Serious]

Message from -:Undertaker:-:

We have reviewed the value of the CS and it has now been changed back to 75RD, I'd like to thank :.:.:.:.:.:.:Dom:.:.:.:.:.:.: for bringing this to my attetion :)

[no waiii]

Message from -:Undertaker:-:

We have reviewed the value of the CS and it has now been changed back to 75RD, I'd like to thank :.:.:.:.:.:.:Dom:.:.:.:.:.:.: for bringing this to my attetion :)

sorry it still says it is 30

[StripedTiger]

Well as far as im concerned, dan is correct with this value.

and as someone has said previously, if habbox rvr disaree with dan even when he is correct, then they are extremely childish people. you should never let personal opinions interfere in work whether it is just hobby volunteer work, or real life. its not how professionals behave.

I have never seen hc sofas go for a load of random norms before. and if they occassionally have, then there is very little chance they have gone for a while 75 creds +. MOST o for 30 with trading for lodge, mode, plants etc. some may go for less and some may go for more depending on who the traders are really. "noob" trades will not usually follow the average value.

[no waiii]

Well as far as im concerned, dan is correct with this value.

and as someone has said previously, if habbox rvr disaree with dan even when he is correct, then they are extremely childish people. you should never let personal opinions interfere in work whether it is just hobby volunteer work, or real life. its not how professionals behave.

I have never seen hc sofas go for a load of random norms before. and if they occassionally have, then there is very little chance they have gone for a while 75 creds +. MOST o for 30 with trading for lodge, mode, plants etc. some may go for less and some may go for more depending on who the traders are really. "noob" trades will not usually follow the average value.

Ye i know there gunna agree with anythign anyone else says they only think they are rights and that the can not make any mastakes or be wrong

Btw im talking about the RVR

[-Danube-]

Good move by Dan (undertaker). He's always wondered about the HC Sofa value and I agree with him on this one. Maybe Habbox should take a leaf out of his book but no I forgot, any changes in the RV market that undertaker makes Habbox never wants to do the same (even though this is the logical and I think correct value).
Harry i Pmed Paul and Nia about this a few days ago, along with a few other ideas, They are gonna discuss it, i think they will do it cos it makes perfect sense

[AgnesIO]

It makes total sense though, i've been discussing this for a while (before it was posted on HHGS) and i think it makes sense

10 Lodge corners = 30RD

Most people trade 10 Lodge corners for a HC so HC should = 30RD

Just cos they aint Habbox it doesn't make them wrong :P

But why change it now?? After all this time. Changing it now makes no sense..


70 credits is far too high and no one pays that much.
Most people do sell 10 lodge corners for a hc but you normally find it's usually 15 pods / other items per hc so it's more suited around 40/50 credits.

If it was credits then surely it should be 14?

And Lodge corners should go for 14 per hc, as they sell for 1 cred each.

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Message from -:Undertaker:-:

We have reviewed the value of the CS and it has now been changed back to 75RD, I'd like to thank :.:.:.:.:.:.:Dom:.:.:.:.:.:.: for bringing this to my attetion :)


Lol now who is the professional one? He takes the piss with my name, and takes the piss in all of it. Great manager :)

[Mr-Trainor]

Just check out hhgs.net's hc sofa value...

30rd xD

I really do wonder where they get there values from...

30rd is more accurate than 75rd tbh.
habbox will be changing their club sofa value within the next few days ;)

[GoldenMerc]

There rly was no need for this thread, It just prooves more to HHGS (:

[OhLiam]

When you trade seasonals for hcs you go by the value though so if the seasonal is 20RD and a hc is 75RD you get around about 3 - 4 of that seasonal per hc.

If we go by what they say 30RD?, then you get the one of the seasonal per hc. Thats not right?

Bad mistake.

[-Danube-]

But why change it now?? After all this time. Changing it now makes no sense..



If it was credits then surely it should be 14?

And Lodge corners should go for 14 per hc, as they sell for 1 cred each.

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Lol now who is the professional one? He takes the piss with my name, and takes the piss in all of it. Great manager :)
It's gotta be changed at some point, we can't just leave it like it is lol

I really don't understand what you have against this, even if the CS stayed at 75RD your still not gonna get 75RD's worth of furni for them.

The value will be changed very soon


And to OhLiam

If the value of the HC is changed the all other rare will b changed respectivly

EG

if the HC becomes 30RD

0.1CS = 3RD
0.2CS = 6RD
0.3CS = 9RD
0.4CS = 12RD
0.5CS = 15RD

And so on

[OhLiam]

if the HC becomes 30RD

0.1CS = 3RD
0.2CS = 6RD
0.3CS = 9RD
0.4CS = 12RD
0.5CS = 15RD

And so on

Thats what I was pointing out, HHGS haven't changed there values yet except the hc sofa, they should really sort out what they do before they take action as its stupid to just change value of hc.

and now you know why so many people get confused with hhgs, they don't think about what other users will think.

[Jam]

Message from -:undertaker:-

We have changed our values, all our normal rare values and HC rare values are done. Ontop of changing the currency of rares in misc/seasonal we also have to update every day, bearing in mind that we have more rares than any other site, even when you exclude our collections and sets - its a busy job.

The seasonals and miscellaneous rares will be changed soon, we have our other manager away and we are busy collecting Diner furniture images.

I've been doing rare values since february 2006, so I would think by now I'd know what I'm dong.

So it would of been useful for you to of actually investigated what you were claiming against us before coming out with all this.

PS. Someone has also posted this for Dan but they're under moderation due to the forums stupidic rules.

[no waiii]

You know nuthing and you ateempt to agree with staff are failing as they are dissagreein with you that person posted the 75RD but it is fake it is still at 30RD.



But why change it now?? After all this time. Changing it now makes no sense..



If it was credits then surely it should be 14?

And Lodge corners should go for 14 per hc, as they sell for 1 cred each.

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Lol now who is the professional one? He takes the piss with my name, and takes the piss in all of it. Great manager :)

[Hazza]

You know nuthing and you ateempt to agree with staff are failing as they are dissagreein with you that person posted the 75RD but it is fake it is still at 30RD.
I know, lmaoo.
Dom, why fake something undertaker has said? Shows how sad some people really are.

[GoldenMerc]

It kinda shows how much he bums Hx, I mean 90% of the people in this thread agree it should be lowered to 30, Although i think it should of been done a long time i find it funny Habbox are just following what we are doing, Such as all values in one page, but heres the thing will they follow this? if they dont it will become wierd for users to choose who they want to be with.

[Netaxes]

Ok, i do agree 75rd should be lowered, but i also think 30rd is too low. For example, people pay 15 pods per HC. 15 x 3 = 45 rd.

[-Danube-]

It's not easy being an RVR, alot of work to do, finding images, values and changing things like this. I aggree with GoldenMerc that this value should have been changed ages ago but it's just one of them values that you never think of is it. And we aint following HHGS about the RD value, this was brought up in our department a few weeks ago in an incorrect value thread but at the sametime we had a change of management and took sometime for the department to pick up again. It was then brought up again a few days ago and then with HHGS changing theres it's really started to make it happen.

and when some one said

we are busy collecting Diner furniture images

we've already got them, all :D

within about 2 hours of them being released

:D

[GoldenMerc]

lol chicken nice one for falling for a phisher 8-)
Never the less you have followed us, If you say it or not tbh

[Netaxes]

Yea, i got phisher about 4 months ago -.-" but on topic, i don't want to start an arguement, but HHGS has stolen some of Habbox images. So, you can say that you have followed us in a sense. I'm not going to say anymore because i don't want to start anything :)

[GoldenMerc]

Please provide proof we have stolen images recently, YES i know it was done a while back but that was a mistake by one of our staff who misunderstood what i understood. you didnt get phishered 4 months ago it was 2 days ago LOL.

[-Danube-]

He got phished ages ago but forgot to change his pass i think :S

[GoldenMerc]

Yeh he got phished again 2 days ago, was posted on ***** :S
woulnt be suprised if it was one of thouse ones that says enter your pass and username here and we will give u 65004444 ts
tbh.
never the less theres some funny things in that thread about the rvr manager i wont link tho :P.
Also dan says most of the images that are on Habbox such as the HC furni is his as he uploaded them, So technically there HHGS's if he uploads them but they are allowed to stay on Habbox, BUT then again Jake stole our black throne it was proven ;)

[Dan2nd]

Those values pretty much make sense.. something which really annoys me though is how when ever a thread is made regarding HHGS no one seems to show anyone any respect from either side of the arguement lol. C'mon guys stop with the cheap shots!

[-Danube-]

I have said that i agree with the value, I dunno why people do get so hostile when it comes to other site, i mean ye a little competition is healthy but this aint. It's just Habbo after all.

Habbox aint copying/following HHGS

HHGS aint copying/following Habbox

[GoldenMerc]

I have said that i agree with the value, I dunno why people do get so hostile when it comes to other site, i mean ye a little competition is healthy but this aint. It's just Habbo after all.

Habbox aint copying/following HHGS

HHGS aint copying/following Habbox

Habbox aint copying/following HHGS
Are you sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[-Danube-]

Ye i'm sure

I'll repeat what i said before

It's just Habbo after all

a game?

[GoldenMerc]

say tht to paulmacc plz
But then again people have put alot of time into things so yeh, it needs to be all right.

[msb.]

Those values pretty much make sense.. something which really annoys me though is how when ever a thread is made regarding HHGS no one seems to show anyone any respect from either side of the arguement lol. C'mon guys stop with the cheap shots!
glad you mentioned that, if everyone worked together, booooy would it be a better rare value market.

BUT NO

u just can't can ya? :rolleyes:

[GoldenMerc]

Thats like saying to Apple & Microsoft to work together, If you think about it, 2 powerfull values, 2 totally diffrent looking things, Habbox old fashion values while HHGS has more of a modern look.
:D

[AgnesIO]

30rd is more accurate than 75rd tbh.
habbox will be changing their club sofa value within the next few days ;)

If that happens, then EVERY seasonal and super will be worth less... That ruins rare values.


When you trade seasonals for hcs you go by the value though so if the seasonal is 20RD and a hc is 75RD you get around about 3 - 4 of that seasonal per hc.

If we go by what they say 30RD?, then you get the one of the seasonal per hc. Thats not right?

Bad mistake.

Exactly. Perhaps 45rd / 50rd / 60rd but 30rd is stupid. Especially when HHGS forgot to change the other values. E.G. Xmas tree - 0.4hc (32rd) - Well actually no.


It's gotta be changed at some point, we can't just leave it like it is lol

I really don't understand what you have against this, even if the CS stayed at 75RD your still not gonna get 75RD's worth of furni for them.

The value will be changed very soon


And to OhLiam

If the value of the HC is changed the all other rare will b changed respectivly

EG

if the HC becomes 30RD

0.1CS = 3RD
0.2CS = 6RD
0.3CS = 9RD
0.4CS = 12RD
0.5CS = 15RD

And so on

But that makes everyother rare worth less. But you do in seasonals do you not?


Thats what I was pointing out, HHGS haven't changed there values yet except the hc sofa, they should really sort out what they do before they take action as its stupid to just change value of hc.

and now you know why so many people get confused with hhgs, they don't think about what other users will think.

I agree.


Message from -:undertaker:-

We have changed our values, all our normal rare values and HC rare values are done. Ontop of changing the currency of rares in misc/seasonal we also have to update every day, bearing in mind that we have more rares than any other site, even when you exclude our collections and sets - its a busy job.

The seasonals and miscellaneous rares will be changed soon, we have our other manager away and we are busy collecting Diner furniture images.

I've been doing rare values since february 2006, so I would think by now I'd know what I'm dong.

So it would of been useful for you to of actually investigated what you were claiming against us before coming out with all this.

PS. Someone has also posted this for Dan but they're under moderation due to the forums stupidic rules.

I did investigate, and I think it was obvious that you changed rthe value of the hc, and not any other rares. Also when you change the hc, every other rare value drops.


You know nuthing and you ateempt to agree with staff are failing as they are dissagreein with you that person posted the 75RD but it is fake it is still at 30RD.

What? I have told you before, why dont you read feedback, and ask immenseman, nvr, hitman, and jesus - They were all staff and I can asure you the ammount of arguements i got in with them, was stupid.


Ok, i do agree 75rd should be lowered, but i also think 30rd is too low. For example, people pay 15 pods per HC. 15 x 3 = 45 rd.

Oh I like people that talk sense ;)


say tht to paulmacc plz
But then again people have put alot of time into things so yeh, it needs to be all right.

Why do you even use this site?


glad you mentioned that, if everyone worked together, booooy would it be a better rare value market.

BUT NO

u just can't can ya? :rolleyes:

If we did that, HHGS, and Habbox may as well join sites.


Thats like saying to Apple & Microsoft to work together, If you think about it, 2 powerfull values, 2 totally diffrent looking things, Habbox old fashion values while HHGS has more of a modern look.
:D

HHGS also has a crap market, with a manager that contradicts himself.

[Kardan]

Surely if you move the HC to 30rd, you'd have to change ALL other prices of ALL other rares.

For example, if Rare A was 30HC (30 x 75 = 2250RD), and the HC price was halved. It means it's now 2x easier for people to get a HC. Meaning, the new price is 30 x 30 = 900RD. So the price should be increased to 60 by 2.5? Which is 75HC (75 x 30 = 2250RD).

Or am I totally wrong here? If you don't change them, it makes all the other rare values crash down by half. Making the rarest rare in the hotel worth a current day 3 Thrones. Wow...

[Immenseman]

Aha, this makes me laugh because I remember mentioning it to Dan and he was so against it. The release of credits has made absolutely no difference as long as I remember the HC sofa has traded for 10-15 3 credit norms. I think the site needed to do something different because it isn't spoke about much anymore and all publicty is good publicity I guess ;)

[AgnesIO]

Surely if you move the HC to 30rd, you'd have to change ALL other prices of ALL other rares.

For example, if Rare A was 30HC (30 x 75 = 2250RD), and the HC price was halved. It means it's now 2x easier for people to get a HC. Meaning, the new price is 30 x 30 = 900RD. So the price should be increased to 60 by 2.5? Which is 75HC (75 x 30 = 2250RD).

Or am I totally wrong here? If you don't change them, it makes all the other rare values crash down by half. Making the rarest rare in the hotel worth a current day 3 Thrones. Wow...

I totally agree. All the other values will crash, if we change the hc.

And some idiot abused me in a rep, they meant to -rep me but they +Repped me! haha.

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And lol immenseman :D

I am aggainst it to, as this will:

1) Make all the other rares worth less.
2) Seasonals DO go for 4 per hc, at times, so that DOES equal 0.25hc. Just coz norms go for around 10-15 per hc, doesnt mean we should forget about misc rares and stuff.

[Hazza]

Surely if you move the HC to 30rd, you'd have to change ALL other prices of ALL other rares.

For example, if Rare A was 30HC (30 x 75 = 2250RD), and the HC price was halved. It means it's now 2x easier for people to get a HC. Meaning, the new price is 30 x 30 = 900RD. So the price should be increased to 60 by 2.5? Which is 75HC (75 x 30 = 2250RD).

Or am I totally wrong here? If you don't change them, it makes all the other rare values crash down by half. Making the rarest rare in the hotel worth a current day 3 Thrones. Wow...
You will have to change all the prices, yes. The more I think about it, I don't think it should be changed. We are currently discussing this in the RV department and Habbox will come to a decision on what we are going to do, and believe me there isn't only one thing we are talking about!

[luce]

It was a brave move by HHGS and it makes complete sense.

yeah it was

and it doesn't need arguing over :P

[AgnesIO]

You will have to change all the prices, yes. The more I think about it, I don't think it should be changed. We are currently discussing this in the RV department and Habbox will come to a decision on what we are going to do, and believe me there isn't only one thing we are talking about!

Glad you changed your mind :D

You would also half the value of every rare AND half the the habbo populations furni.


yeah it was

and it doesn't need arguing over :P

It doesnt make sense though. As it decreses the value of every other rare.

[Hazza]

I also believe if we do this then the credits will also fall with it because people will think they are getting less for their credits.

e.g. HC = 80RD now = 14/15 credits per HC
If we moved the HC to 30RD = Its almost a 1/3 of the previous price, which might make people will 1/3 of the credits = 5ish credits per HC and that would totally destroy the rare values market.

[GoldenMerc]

Aha, this makes me laugh because I remember mentioning it to Dan and he was so against it. The release of credits has made absolutely no difference as long as I remember the HC sofa has traded for 10-15 3 credit norms. I think the site needed to do something different because it isn't spoke about much anymore and all publicty is good publicity I guess ;)
Hah and you think we need more?
We have loads of people behind us a good load of Casino Owners aswell, Even vintus has started doing it...

[Immenseman]

Well if you want to be the best then yes you do need more. In fact you want to turn this Habbox vs HHGS Ross. I think it's a good idea, HC sofas do sell for about 30 credits but publicity stunts bore me. Due to you wanting to cause friction between fansites which by the way is against the fansite rules which I hope you would know seeing as you own one I will close this thread. :)