Coding Tables.

[RoundTrees]

what program could i use that will code in tables for me ?? :) thanks!

[Calon]

Fireworks CS3.

But tables are very.. terrible, it shows your lack of skills if you code in tables, and you're using a generator which makes you a failure of a web designer.

[RoundTrees]

lol okay thanks anyway im guna try and learn divs soon :D
just using this until i learn properly

[redtom]

Don't use tables for coding layouts at all, go straight to divs.

Tables are not for coding layouts.

[Fehm]

Using Div's gives better results!! :)

Good luck :) And i use Dreamweaver 8 and Photoshop but dont use tables :S I just use Divs.

[Calon]

If you want to start "cheating" coding in DIVS, then ImageReady CS2 with Photoshop CS2 is what you should look for.

[Excellent1]

If you want to start "cheating" coding in DIVS, then ImageReady CS2 with Photoshop CS2 is what you should look for.Is that what you do? Also as people have said, divs are much better than tables. You will find that divs are just common sense :)

[Meti]

If you want to "cheat", use ImageReady and slice the layout in parts. Then save the images and html code.

your code will be some thing like this from the beginning:
<tr>
<td rowspan="2">
<img src="images/picture.gif" width="200px" height="20px">
</td>
</tr>

You have to change it to:
<tr>
<td rowspan="2" background="images/picture.gif" width="200px" height="20px">
</td>
</tr>

But.. It's better if you code with div's ;)

[Excellent1]

If you want to "cheat", use ImageReady and slice the layout in parts. Then save the images and html code.

your code will be some thing like this from the beginning:
<tr>
<td rowspan="2">
<img src="images/picture.gif" width="200px" height="20px">
</td>
</tr>

You have to change it to:
<tr>
<td rowspan="2" background="images/picture.gif" width="200px" height="20px">
</td>
</tr>

But.. It's better if you code with div's ;)That just showed me you know nothing about coding.

[Calon]

ImageReady allows you to select CSS/DIVS.

I haven't used it in years. :P

[iUnknown]

Fireworks CS3.

But tables are very.. terrible, it shows your lack of skills if you code in tables, and you're using a generator which makes you a failure of a web designer.

You guys have assumed wrong, you can code layouts in tables and not use a generator and it is very good coding that can be expandable and works well. However, tables are designed for data and not for layouts, but until CSS was created, they were the only things you could use.


Don't use tables for coding layouts at all, go straight to divs.

Tables are not for coding layouts.

Tables indeed are for coding layouts also, as more websites are coded in tables than divs. However, it is more up-to-date to code in divs, but in my view, if you code in tables properly, it's perfectly as good.

I can code in both, incase you're wondering... ;)

www.HFFM.co.uk is coded in tables, but it's good coding, it works well and is good. So what it's not divs, it still works well.

[Calon]

You guys have assumed wrong, you can code layouts in tables and not use a generator and it is very good coding that can be expandable and works well. However, tables are designed for data and not for layouts, but until CSS was created, they were the only things you could use.



Tables indeed are for coding layouts also, as more websites are coded in tables than divs. However, it is more up-to-date to code in divs, but in my view, if you code in tables properly, it's perfectly as good.

I can code in both, incase you're wondering... ;)

www.HFFM.co.uk (http://www.HFFM.co.uk) is coded in tables, but it's good coding, it works well and is good. So what it's not divs, it still works well.
Because divs are much more dynamic, divs are so better, tables are cluttered and load slower than DIVs.

[iUnknown]

With all these new optic fibres all over the place, everything loads so quickly it doesn't even matter anymore. I do agree though, divs are more dynamic and it can be easier to integrate cool javascript into your layout.

[Decode]

With all these new optic fibres all over the place, everything loads so quickly it doesn't even matter anymore. I do agree though, divs are more dynamic and it can be easier to integrate cool javascript into your layout.
The problem with tables is the browser takes a long time to display them, tables are only ment for organising data, so doing a whole layout in them takes ages to load.

[redtom]

You guys have assumed wrong, you can code layouts in tables and not use a generator and it is very good coding that can be expandable and works well. However, tables are designed for data and not for layouts, but until CSS was created, they were the only things you could use.



Tables indeed are for coding layouts also, as more websites are coded in tables than divs. However, it is more up-to-date to code in divs, but in my view, if you code in tables properly, it's perfectly as good.

I can code in both, incase you're wondering... ;)

www.HFFM.co.uk is coded in tables, but it's good coding, it works well and is good. So what it's not divs, it still works well.

No tables are not for coding layouts :rolleyes:

[Excellent1]

Tables are for tabular data - not layouts. CSS is much more organized and complies with todays current web-standards. CSS minimizes the code of a website by something like 50-55% I read? Tables look dirty and cluttered everywhere, you can also tell a site is coded in tables because a lot of the time you get minimal errors that you wouldn't in divs such as positioning when text is inputted.

[Meti]

If you want to "cheat", use ImageReady and slice the layout in parts. Then save the images and html code.

your code will be something like this from the beginning:
<tr>
<td rowspan="2">
<img src="images/picture.gif" width="200px" height="20px">
</td>
</tr>

You have to change it to:
<tr>
<td rowspan="2" background="images/picture.gif" width="200px" height="20px">
</td>
</tr>

But.. It's better if you code with div's ;)


That just showed me you know nothing about coding.

Will be something like that..

[Decode]

You guys have assumed wrong, you can code layouts in tables and not use a generator and it is very good coding that can be expandable and works well. However, tables are designed for data and not for layouts, but until CSS was created, they were the only things you could use.



Tables indeed are for coding layouts also, as more websites are coded in tables than divs. However, it is more up-to-date to code in divs, but in my view, if you code in tables properly, it's perfectly as good.

I can code in both, incase you're wondering... ;)

www.HFFM.co.uk (http://www.HFFM.co.uk) is coded in tables, but it's good coding, it works well and is good. So what it's not divs, it still works well.

The <table> tag explains its self - Its for putting data into a table. Not for coding a layout.

[Blob]

The <table> tag explains its self - Its for putting data into a table. Not for coding a layout.

And the <div> tag just screams out

"CODE A LAYOUT USING ME"

does it?

[redtom]

And the <div> tag just screams out

"CODE A LAYOUT USING ME"

does it?

Yeah you must be deaf

[Blob]

Yeah you must be deaf

Crap i thought there was a problem =[