Hamilton Penalised, Massa Handed Win

[CJW93]

Lewis Hamilton has had his Belgian Grand Prix victory overturned by the stewards, handing the win to title rival Felipe Massa, who finished second on the road.
Hamilton was given a 25-second penalty for cutting the Bus Stop chicane during his wheel-to-wheel battle for the lead with Kimi Raikkonen during the closing laps.
Although the McLaren driver appeared to lift off and was repassed by Raikkonen on the exit of the corner, the stewards ruled that he had gained an advantage by short-cutting the circuit.
"The stewards, having received a report from the race director and having met with the drivers and team managers involved, have...determined a breach of the regulations has been committed by the competitor and impose the penalty referred to," said an FIA statement.
Hamilton was deemed to have "cut the chicane and gained an advantage", thereby breaching Article 30.3(a) of the sporting regulations and Appendix L chapter 4 Article 2 (g) of the International Sporting Code.
With 25 seconds added to his race time, Hamilton has dropped to third in the classification behind BMW Sauber’s Nick Heidfeld.
The decision brings about a six-point swing in Massa's favour in the championship standings, reducing Hamilton's lead from eight to two points.
Raikkonen crashed out of the race on the penultimate lap and is now 19 points behind Hamilton with five races remaining.


What a ******* Joke.
If Hamilton stayed on the trach he would of crashed with Kimi and ended both of there races

[Geraint]

Posted it in the other thread, sorry.

He cut the corner, he deserved it.

[CJW93]

After he cut the corner he gave Kimi his place back

[mangle]

They dislike anyone who doesn't have Ferrari written on their car anyway...

[Oidz]

I feel like every year, Lewis Hamilton is being screwed lol. I am also deeply upset because the people who handed Massa the win doesnt know what It's like to be in a posistion like that.

If they was Lewis they'd do the exact same thing.. so IMO - Lewis Hamiltion = Owner.

[Judge Judy]

He didn't deserve to be stripped off first. He cut Bus Stop, but he gave Kimi back his place.

also at the end of the day hamilton's cut wasn't the winning maneoveur to win the race, kimi overtook again the lap after and spun etc.

[CJW93]

I feel like every year, Lewis Hamilton is being screwed lol. I am also deeply upset because the people who handed Massa the win doesnt know what It's like to be in a posistion like that.

If they was Lewis they'd do the exact same thing.. so IMO - Lewis Hamiltion = Owner.

I agree with you when you say he is getting screwed over every year.
Massa almost causes a crash in the pits in Valenica that could of ended up with a huge pile up, but all he gets is a slap on the wrist and a fine.

[Zak]

f1 is fixed just cz ******* ferrari didnt win

[Ohirian]

He cut and he got caught.
He gave Kimi is place back but that resulted in his crash.

So to be honest, he did deserve it.

[CJW93]

He cut and he got caught.

He gave Kimi is place back but that resulted in his crash.


So to be honest, he did deserve it.

Kimi didnt crash becuase of Hamilton, he crashed becuase he just lost controll of the car becuase of the conditions.

[Geraint]

Kimi didnt crash becuase of Hamilton, he crashed becuase he just lost controll of the car becuase of the conditions.

He was penalised for not going through the chicane.

[CJW93]

Well Done

[Zak]

He was penalised for not going through the chicane.

Yea but if that had been Massa he wouldn't have been penalised

F1 is fixed in Ferrari's favour!

[Geraint]

Yea but if that had been Massa he wouldn't have been penalised

F1 is fixed in Ferrari's favour!

Oh, I was everyone would sthu about "Oh, it's fixed in favour of Ferrari."

He lost, he broke a rule. Face it. If it had been Raikonnen or Massa the same would have happened. If it was "fixed", you wouldn't complain if Hamilton was with Ferrari, would you?

[Bef]

of course f1 is fixed in ferraris favour. who do u think pretty much funds f1?
its rediculous that they docked him 25 seconds.
Like u said, if he hadnt cut he would have crashed in to kimi!
he fell back and let kimi take the lead when it was safe!

maclaren are complaining and hopefully going to get this sorted but i doubt it will be. if it was ferrari on the other hand...

[Smiddy]

I don't see how a 25 second deduction was necessary though - Unless they're declaring it as a drive-through style penalty, which they haven't stated - He didn't gain 25 seconds from going over the chichane, eh :rolleyes_

[Pyroka]

He didn't break any rules, he followed the rules by the book. When he went over the chicane, he made sure that Raikonnen overtook him so that he did not gain any unfair advantage at the end of the race. Hamilton should've won, quite outrageous that this happened.

[CJW93]

At least the two peole that posted before me have sence

[Funya Chin]

Oh, I was everyone would sthu about "Oh, it's fixed in favour of Ferrari."

He lost, he broke a rule. Face it. If it had been Raikonnen or Massa the same would have happened. If it was "fixed", you wouldn't complain if Hamilton was with Ferrari, would you?
You're so proud and arrogant it's unbelievable. A 25 second deduction for cutting a corner? Get real.

That's like giving a football team -10 for being a minute late onto the field.

[Geraint]

You're so proud and arrogant it's unbelievable. A 25 second deduction for cutting a corner? Get real.

That's like giving a football team -10 for being a minute late onto the field.

Might as well name this the F1 forum and overthrow the main people in F1 shall we?

Just because Hamilton lost, you're all having a little cry, cry. There's nothing anybody on here can do so just face it.

[Jordie]

He didn't break any rules, he followed the rules by the book. When he went over the chicane, he made sure that Raikonnen overtook him so that he did not gain any unfair advantage at the end of the race. Hamilton should've won, quite outrageous that this happened.

they could say after hamilton had cut the corner it gave him momentum to pass raikonnen into the next corner because he gave raikonnen about a centimetre back he would of also been going quicker? it probably doesnt warrant a 25 second penalty though. If anybody can understand that haha

[alexxxxx]

if raikkonen pushes hamilton off the track, then he's forcred to cut the chicane (as long as he gives the place back), which he did. It's a poor call by the stewards, and it's always a pro-ferrari bias.

[Mr.Sam]

he went off the track to avoid crashing into kimi, resulting in him cutting the bus stop he rejoined the track and let kimi pass and didn't use his slip stream for an advantage at all.
once kimi was past he did him when braking.

F1 need to use the same officials for every race so decisions are constant, the scrap was between lewis and kimi why should massa gain from those two when he wasn't involved? massa got fined 10,000 for the pit incident last time which could of have far far more disastrous consequences.

also the 'one blocking move only' rule kimi blocked lewis twice?

@ whoever said what lewis did made kimi crash I have no idea what race you were watching.

People have said for a while that the FIA was biased towards ferrari which I didn't believe, after yesterdays incident I'm starting to change my mind. yet another race ruined by the officials.

[Judge Judy]

The most likely question now is: what does it take for Lewis to win the championship, yes?

[Smiddy]

Might as well name this the F1 forum and overthrow the main people in F1 shall we?

Just because Hamilton lost, you're all having a little cry, cry. There's nothing anybody on here can do so just face it.
My main motive is Mclaren, not Hamilton, been a Mclaren fan since the days of DC & Mika :8

I'm pretty sure we all know we can do nothing to help, we're just discussing it is all!


Word has it Mclaren's appeal will be unaddressable, of all the surprises in the world!

[Geraint]

My main motive is Mclaren, not Hamilton, been a Mclaren fan since the days of DC & Mika :8

I'm pretty sure we all know we can do nothing to help, we're just discussing it is all!


Word has it Mclaren's appeal will be unaddressable, of all the surprises in the world!

Clearly. Just because I was anti-Hamilton my opinion was not welcome.

[Smiddy]

Clearly. Just because I was anti-Hamilton my opinion was not welcome.
Amazingly they can't have it their own way, they'll learn that in time; won't they dear.

[Pyroka]

I heard a great joke today,

"In a recent press conference called by the FIA, the FIA have decided to change the acronyms meaning to 'Ferrari International Assistance'."

Hehehe. I heard off a guy in work though, that he got penalised seconds because 'he wasn't far away enough from raikonnen'. WHAT?

[Zak]

Oh, I was everyone would sthu about "Oh, it's fixed in favour of Ferrari."

He lost, he broke a rule. Face it. If it had been Raikonnen or Massa the same would have happened. If it was "fixed", you wouldn't complain if Hamilton was with Ferrari, would you?

Massa pulled out infront of someone in the pits, remember that?

Raikonnen crashed anyway so why would it of mattered if he didn't go entirely through the chicane. He gave the position back to Raikonnen after the chicane anyway.

& Yes.. the fact is Ferrari screwed Hamilton last year, looks like it's going to happen again this year too.