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Mint

13-09-2008, 05:33 PM

Habbox does have the permission to allow us to post pictures of ourselves but Habbox doesn't allow it. Does anyone think we should be allowed? I got an infraction a while ago for having a picture of myself in my avater because I assumed that we would be allowed since Habbo said we could, but unfortunatly Habbox still wouldn't allow it. Or maybe if we could only post a picture of ourselves wearing glasses so it would hide our identity a bit more?

Disscuss! :)

Hiro

13-09-2008, 05:35 PM

No.
I think it's due to the fact of bullying, but idk. It doesn't really bother me, and a forum isn't meant for pictures of you? :S

buttons

13-09-2008, 05:35 PM

well there is a "post a picture of yourself" thread in spam. you're just not allowed it in your avz.

cocaine

13-09-2008, 05:36 PM

Mint

13-09-2008, 05:45 PM

well there is a "post a picture of yourself" thread in spam. you're just not allowed it in your avz.
That's what I mean, What's the point in being able to post a link to a picture of yourself and not being able to show yourself on here? It's just the same really.

Axel

13-09-2008, 05:46 PM

Why would you want to?

Lisabel

13-09-2008, 05:47 PM

I think posting pic's of yourself is a good idea, if you can post links of yourself, why not just post directly?!

Mint

13-09-2008, 05:50 PM

I think posting pic's of yourself is a good idea, if you can post links of yourself, why not just post directly?!
You just hit the nail on it's head. :eusa_clap

bo$$

13-09-2008, 05:56 PM

If you're really dying for people to see what you look like.. just post a link.

Rixion

13-09-2008, 06:04 PM

If you're really dying for people to see what you look like.. just post a link.
I agree, since I don't seeing the rule being took away, just post a link!

bo$$

13-09-2008, 06:05 PM

and as you say, there is no difference between posting a link & directly posting the picture, so just stick with the link.

Nereo

13-09-2008, 07:02 PM

I think Punchable wants the rule changed so he can post a pic of himself in his avatar or something? :)

Ohirian

13-09-2008, 07:04 PM

I don't see why you shouldn't be allowed to insert a picture of yourself.
If the rule is to stop bullying surely it's pointless because people can bully you from the links you post in the 'Post your Picture' thread?

cocaine

13-09-2008, 07:08 PM

it be do with they want the images hosted externally or whatever, for some reason.

shizzle

13-09-2008, 07:11 PM

I don't think this would be good, as this could increase bullying to other forum members, although you can post links. If your that desperate you can go on CH, they allow it.

GommeInc

13-09-2008, 08:12 PM

If you upload an avatar or picture of yourself, anywhere on the internet, you have to expect criticism and no-one is to blame but yourself. It should be allowed, Habbox is a teen site and coincidently members should take responsibility of their actions. If members get bullied, pull out the tiny violins and play the worlds sadest song. It all depends on how childish the members are, but usually if members post pictures of themselves they're hugely edited and half the time you're not recognisable...

I think it's due to the fact of bullying, but idk. It doesn't really bother me, and a forum isn't meant for pictures of you? :S
A majority of forums have members posting pcitures of themselves in profile pictures and avatars, it's expected and there is no rule of the galactic forum definition organisation saying anywhere "forums aren't for pictures of yourself". That's a vague way of thinking :/

Hayd93

13-09-2008, 08:16 PM

No we should not. The amount of bullying would be terrible. I could see it now all the comments about each other.

Mint

13-09-2008, 08:22 PM

No we should not. The amount of bullying would be terrible. I could see it now all the comments about each other.
What about sites like bebo and myspace? I've never seen people posting bad things about how they look.

shizzle

13-09-2008, 08:26 PM

What about sites like bebo and myspace? I've never seen people posting bad things about how they look.
That's from one person's point of view, that's why there is a option so you can put your profile to private, or pictures to private.

The Professor

13-09-2008, 08:30 PM

If you upload an avatar or picture of yourself, anywhere on the internet, you have to expect criticism and no-one is to blame but yourself. It should be allowed, Habbox is a teen site and coincidently members should take responsibility of their actions. If members get bullied, pull out the tiny violins and play the worlds sadest song. It all depends on how childish the members are, but usually if members post pictures of themselves they're hugely edited and half the time you're not recognisable...

Are we using the same forum?! If members weren't childish moderators wouldn't have to edit for swearing and insulting every 10 seconds, fact of the matter is the members ARE childish because they are children. Its sad but its true.

I can't see this rule being changed any time in the near future anyway, if you're that desperate just post a link.

Mint

13-09-2008, 08:36 PM

That's from one person's point of view, that's why there is a option so you can put your profile to private, or pictures to private.
Yeh and our option would be to display a picture of ourselves or not display a picture of ourselves...:S

Earthquake

13-09-2008, 08:38 PM

I take it your only complaining due to recieving an infraction?

Mint

13-09-2008, 08:41 PM

Hiro

13-09-2008, 08:52 PM

There isn't really a difference between posting a link to your picture or posting your picture, either way your still showing everyone your picture.

What if people don't want to see a picture of everyone?

tdi

13-09-2008, 08:53 PM

i don't see why you don't just allow it to be in an IMG tag, at the end of the day anyone wanting to 'bully' is still able to see your picture, and it's your choice whether you upload it or not.

GommeInc

13-09-2008, 09:32 PM

Are we using the same forum?! If members weren't childish moderators wouldn't have to edit for swearing and insulting every 10 seconds, fact of the matter is the members ARE childish because they are children. Its sad but its true.

I can't see this rule being changed any time in the near future anyway, if you're that desperate just post a link.
A link is just as bad as an image, if people are purposely wanting to troll, then they will find these links and do their damage. Besides, there shouldn't be children on the forum, or is Habbox rebelling against the fansite and Habbo ways? :P As far as I see it, there's no harm trying it for a few weeks or even a month and see what happens, although then again people will probably find that trial period an excellent excuse to get themselves banned :D

What if people don't want to see a picture of everyone?
What if we don't want to see whoever that is in your avatar :P

Earthquake

13-09-2008, 09:36 PM

I complained ages ago when I recieved the fraction but I've gotten over it now. :)

Well for that reason, I'm all for it. I don't see whats so bad about posting pictures of yourself by embedding them, its basically the same as posting a link, just another three seconds for to see the image.

If this thread is rejected, then I don't see much point in being able to link images of yourself on the forum.

Mint

13-09-2008, 09:39 PM

A link is just as bad as an image, if people are purposely wanting to troll, then they will find these links and do their damage. Besides, there shouldn't be children on the forum, or is Habbox rebelling against the fansite and Habbo ways? :P As far as I see it, there's no harm trying it for a few weeks or even a month and see what happens, although then again people will probably find that trial period an excellent excuse to get themselves banned :D

What if we don't want to see whoever that is in your avatar :P
Liking the come-back there, I don't really see how people might not want to see other people though.

Hazza

13-09-2008, 09:43 PM

Nope, this is one of the reasons why I hate ClubHabboForum. The amount of bullying and stuff that goes on, on that forum is unbelievable. They have it in their sigs etc. I hate it, so NO!

Earthquake

13-09-2008, 10:00 PM

Nope, this is one of the reasons why I hate ClubHabboForum. The amount of bullying and stuff that goes on, on that forum is unbelievable. They have it in their sigs etc. I hate it, so NO!
How could you say that? their all given ''Happy pills'' and any sign of a sacastic comment, your banned for 3 days .. Its annoying over there!

Hazza

13-09-2008, 10:02 PM

How could you say that? their all given ''Happy pills'' and any sign of a sacastic comment, your banned for 3 days .. Its annoying over there!
What? I've seen plenty of bullying of CHF, if thats what you're chatting about.

nvrspk4

14-09-2008, 08:09 AM

GommeInc

14-09-2008, 11:16 AM

There is a difference, the issue of liability.

Sierk is very serious about internet security, and it was hard fought to even allow links. We are certainly not dealing with having images hosted on our forums or displayed on them. There are also lots of additional issues the AGMs have come up with, but I don't really think its necessary to go through them all as they're nuances really.

I don't see it as a huge inconvenience, sorry to be so unyielding on this one but no, case closed :P
How is posting an image of yourself a security threat? You can't do anything with a picture of someone, you can't find someone even with their location AND a picture, it's impossible and even if they do, what could happen? Not alot, and the chances of someone even bothering to locate someone by travelling miles to hunt them down seem highly unlikely. If a paedo or anyone else for that matter wants a victim, they'll do it in their local area. Heck, loads of members on this forum have seen pictures of each other and I know one particular member who has stalked another member while they were at work :P

The arguments against this seem odd and loose. I don't see any harm in people posting pictures of themselves, especially when most people will edit their picture heavily. If people are being bullied, who really is the problem? The person bullying, who thinks 'x' member looks chubby... So? They're human, and they probably haven't criticised you so why do you need to bully? Most forums even stress that bullies are the low life scum for bullying anyway, and will belittle the bully and make them feel pathetic. It's part of growing up to belittle bullies anyway, that's what some schools do and they can't get in trouble because there is no harm done and no name calling, because you're stressing that bullying is pathetic, not the actual bully and the bully will learn. Banning, putting them in attention or expelling them will not make them learn. Mental action is needed, action that shows the bully how pathetic bullying is, not a light PM which is possibly automatic telling them to behave in a 5 year old manner - they're teens! They need more than that, you need to criticise them as they criticise another, but criticising their pathetic attempts to criticise a member for their looks - their attempts to bully need to be targeted. Banning them is even an option... Similar to expelling, they will not learn, especially when banning is directed at the member, while expelling involves whoever pays the bills for the education. I'm not sure what happened to deep, personal PMs telling members to grow up, the minimum age on this forum is about 11 or 12 (judging that it is following the Habbo Way and their minimum age is around those ages), Year 7s get treated poorly when they bully, so why act worse than education? I'm sure I've been stressing this for years on this forum, ever since Seacat and JackHb quit.

Bullies only bully on this forum because they get away with it, you don't seem to practice the "kiss and make up" stratedgy. You just infract and leave it, when you should PM the member personally and tell them to PM the other member and tell the two that there's no need for this behaviour. I remember school and being a prefect, Year 7s were treated with this and it worked, but then again I am mean :P

I am also yet to see the rules updated big time, there's too many rules which already fit into catagories. vbulletin have smaller rules on their forum, and they actually make sense...

luce

14-09-2008, 11:31 AM

it would be nice to allow it, i wouldnt personally but i think some people would like to have it as there avatars

:D

nvrspk4

15-09-2008, 06:48 AM

I am also yet to see the rules updated big time, there's too many rules which already fit into catagories. vbulletin have smaller rules on their forum, and they actually make sense...

Post suggestions then :)

GommeInc

15-09-2008, 03:35 PM

Post suggestions then :)

When using www.habbox.com and www.habboxforum.com you must follow the Habbo Way as well as our rules that we have to keep the main site and forum running as well as they do.

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These are the rules everyone has to follow and on all parts of Habbox and Habbox Forum</center>

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That's as far as I got before getting confused with the amount of repetition :P

Also, just use bold text when doing the rules, not bold and red. It's a forum, not a detention facility underline rules which you must obey or you get the death sentence sooner than later.

Immenseman

15-09-2008, 03:43 PM

Mint

15-09-2008, 04:23 PM

No, you're all way too ugly. In all seriousness, at the end of the day I think it should be up to the user whether they want to or not. Nobody will ever force anyone to post or not to post. If Habbo allow it then it's clear there are no serious threats because otherwise they wouldn't allow it. It doesn't really affect any of us drastically anyway.
If we are allowed to do it, please don't have your pic in your avatar because that would stop me from coming on the forum alltogether. :P Nah, your right! We should be able to post ourselves if we want to.

Mrs.McCall

16-09-2008, 10:09 PM

I agree with Nvr here. Allowing users to post photographs opens up a whole load of issues and simply it'd be setting ourselves up with an influx of trolling and bullying. Yes there are moderators to deal with that but then you have the issue of security regarding underage member's identities.

I think it should stay as it is.

tdi

22-09-2008, 12:43 AM

but at the end of the day you're just posting a link to your photo so you can still get bullied, lol.

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