England

[AgnesIO]

Ok, I am under 15 years old, and I live in half England/Half spain.

And tbh Spain is 100% better.

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England is now full of gangs, and immigrants that are lazy *TEXT REMOVED* living off benefits. The weather is clearly ****e, and the country is becoming way to over crowded. The cost of living is ridiculous now, and half the people, think they are all it, and may aswell all go and die. Also the goverment is so 'We need money and power' it is untrue. I mean all that they ever care about is what America do, the UK is like America's ******* kids.

Do you agree, that England is a ****e place to live now?

Thanks,

Dom

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[omfl]

lol at the last option.
i wouldnt know because i dont live there [:

[Ramones]

sell your house, for 10 grand, and buy a shed in a different country then ;)

[mangle]

I'm not too fussed, wouldn't mind living somewhere else but its still not awful.

[Caution]

I've been a few times to see my cousins when they lived there and it was OK(Cheshire), but I suppose it's what part your in. But I don't live there and wouldn't want to.

[Geo23]

Depends where in England.

Ive never left the country and im 16 .

So I cant think what its like out in other countries.

But I still want to live here when im older but in answer to your question I dont think it is.

[Paulio]

Compared to other countrys it is, yes. It's a ******* **** hole, especially Middlesbrough.

[banned]

no go kill yourself

[Coheed&Cambria]

Ive traveled around england and it is all the same. **** country. Thank god we already have a villa in italy thats mine when im 18. Spain is also, very ****. I'd rather live in Czechoslovakia than england or spain.

[Invent]

England's fine for me.

[GommeInc]

It's ok, but needs to improve alot. It's gone downhill alot recently.

[Cypher-]

Ive just moved over to England for uni and I come from a place near Belfast in Northern Ireland and the two are very similar to be fair, I havent actually seen any gangs or hoodies or any form of lawbreaking yet but yeah our nation as a whole has gone down the pan recently.

[Ramones]

lol at the people voting it's corrupt, how is it at all corrupt?

[JackBuddy]

Ok, I am under 15 years old, and I live in half England/Half spain.

And tbh Spain is 100% better.

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England is now full of gangs, and immigrants that are lazy *TEXT REMOVED* living off benefits. The weather is clearly ****e, and the country is becoming way to over crowded. The cost of living is ridiculous now, and half the people, think they are all it, and may aswell all go and die. Also the goverment is so 'We need money and power' it is untrue. I mean all that they ever care about is what America do, the UK is like America's ******* kids.

Do you agree, that England is a ****e place to live now?

Thanks,

Dom
I don't know if you are aware of this but Spain, particularly the Canary Island has a very high african immigrant population... you can't exactly say anything about that. Have you been to Barcelona before? Have you seen how many people get mugged and pickpocketed there? Every country has gang problems. Although the taxes might be high, governments put them in place for a reason. Every country is having a tough economic time anyway.

Your arguments are unjustified and not very well thought out...

Oh and by the way, I don't know if you are aware of this but you are one of those immigrants you were complaining about.

[cocaine]

Englands fine, but it's a bit unfair comparing it to Spain..

[xxMATTGxx]

Yeah England or the United Kingdom is fine. There may be problems, but this is the world your talking about. Nearly every country in the world has problems and what you said about the weather can be true in your opinion but it does matter where your located on the earth. Spain is much closer to the equator with us and they get different weather then we do. Your lucky we not like the USA and get man hurricane seasons. I rather live in this country then an LEDC. (LEDC wasn't aimed at Spain.)

[AgnesIO]

Compared to other countrys it is, yes. It's a ******* **** hole, especially Middlesbrough.

Agreed.


Ive traveled around england and it is all the same. **** country. Thank god we already have a villa in italy thats mine when im 18. Spain is also, very ****. I'd rather live in Czechoslovakia than england or spain.

Spain is good, although the ilegals find it very easy to get over, as you can see morocco from where i live in spain. However spain do actually sort it, i mean trhey beat the **** out of this illegal on a beach, for selling stolen stuff..


It's ok, but needs to improve alot. It's gone downhill alot recently.

Agreed.


lol at the people voting it's corrupt, how is it at all corrupt?

Goverment is a load of ******** who are greedy *******s..


I don't know if you are aware of this but Spain, particularly the Canary Island has a very high african immigrant population... you can't exactly say anything about that. Have you been to Barcelona before? Have you seen how many people get mugged and pickpocketed there? Every country has gang problems. Although the taxes might be high, governments put them in place for a reason. Every country is having a tough economic time anyway.

Your arguments are unjustified and not very well thought out...

Oh and by the way, I don't know if you are aware of this but you are one of those immigrants you were complaining about.

I were complaining of immigrants living off benefits. If we have immigrants that work and learn the language then fine, i love that.


Englands fine, but it's a bit unfair comparing it to Spain..


I wasnt just thinking of spain ;)

Turkey, italy etc They are also nice places.

[JackBuddy]

Agreed.



Spain is good, although the ilegals find it very easy to get over, as you can see morocco from where i live in spain. However spain do actually sort it, i mean trhey beat the **** out of this illegal on a beach, for selling stolen stuff..



Agreed.



Goverment is a load of ******** who are greedy *******s..



I were complaining of immigrants living off benefits. If we have immigrants that work and learn the language then fine, i love that.




I wasnt just thinking of spain ;)

Turkey, italy etc They are also nice places.
Sorry but you aren't making any sense. You moan about gangs and crime in England then you say that TURKEY AND ITALY ARE NICE PLACES!?!!?!?!?!

Understatement of the century.

[buttons]

if you ask anyone around here they'll say yes it is a **** hole even if they haven't been there,. i wouldn't like to live there, i've been a few times and it's not different to in scotland but i still prefer it here!!

[FlyingJesus]

I love my country, and where I live there's not so much of this gang crime and stuff so it's all good

[Bomb-Head]

No certainly not and theres much worse places in the world :)

[Technologic]

sell your house, for 10 grand, and buy a shed in a different country then ;)
You can get a 4 bedroom, 3 bathroom with a pool house, overlooking one of floridas best golf courses for $210,000 acually.

lolol. A one bedroom flat in salford quays costs £140,000 roughly.

[Blue.Neon]

Ok, I am under 15 years old, and I live in half England/Half spain.

And tbh Spain is 100% better.

----

England is now full of gangs, and immigrants that are lazy *TEXT REMOVED* living off benefits. The weather is clearly ****e, and the country is becoming way to over crowded. The cost of living is ridiculous now, and half the people, think they are all it, and may aswell all go and die. Also the goverment is so 'We need money and power' it is untrue. I mean all that they ever care about is what America do, the UK is like America's ******* kids.

Do you agree, that England is a ****e place to live now?

Thanks,

Dom

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Can I just say, i've been to spain many many times in my life and lets face it, it doesn't come anywhere close to been as good as the UK.

1; Our Health care is 1 of the best in the world.
2: The only nice places of spain are the resorts where holiday makers go, after that you soon see the poverty areas.

Now, im not a MASSIVE fan of the UK myself, but everywhere has good/bad points.

[Hiro]

No, England is fine, every country has immigrants and gangs, you can't escape it.
And the UK has the best health care in the world (NHS), other countries have to pay for their health service.

[AgnesIO]

if you ask anyone around here they'll say yes it is a **** hole even if they haven't been there,. i wouldn't like to live there, i've been a few times and it's not different to in scotland but i still prefer it here!!

Scotland is cheaper to live :)


I love my country, and where I live there's not so much of this gang crime and stuff so it's all good

Bet you have a load of chavs though ;)


Can I just say, i've been to spain many many times in my life and lets face it, it doesn't come anywhere close to been as good as the UK.

1; Our Health care is 1 of the best in the world.
2: The only nice places of spain are the resorts where holiday makers go, after that you soon see the poverty areas.

Now, im not a MASSIVE fan of the UK myself, but everywhere has good/bad points.

It does tbh..

I dont go to a tourist area either..

I have been to many parts of spain, but imo i hate england, and i would jump to a chance of moving.

18, and im out of here.

[N-Dubz]

If you think England has gangs you should live in America, an I live in high gang crime area an it dosn't really effect me at all - it dosnt make me wanna move away to somewhere like Spain..

I dont mind this country, it gives you free best in world healthcare NHS and its not even that bad. Every country has immigrants *an you happen to be one lol!*, and tourists it just happens lol. People living off benifits isnt as bad as you make it sound, in all honesty isnt it just supporting people really?

An if your living in Spain your gonna be surrounded by brits every summer, so whats the point? LOL

I love the weather!! Waking up not knowing what will be happening today, sure it lets us down but Id rather have a holiday in the summer then livin in heat all year around because it aint the same.

[AgnesIO]

If you think England has gangs you should live in America.

I dont mind this country, it gives you free best in world healthcare NHS and its not even that bad. Every country had immigrants, and tourists it just happens lol. People living off benifits isnt as bad as you make it sound, in all honesty isnt it just supporting people really?

An if your living in Spain your gonna be surrounded by brits every summer, so whats the point? LOL

I love the weather!! Waking up not knowing what will be happening today, sure it lets us down but Id rather have a holiday in the summer then livin in heat all year around because it aint the same.


Spain likes tourists, as it supplys them money.

Also it is not only tourists! There are some very nice non-tourist areas.

Tbh the NHS aint free, coz you get charged in tax, and if you think about it, mos thte money goes to drunks, and druggies :P

I hate the weather :D

Also when i said gangs i was referring to your chavs too.

I dont want to live in America as i am Anti-Americanism (As Terry Wogan calls it) :P

[banned]

dommyy!!!

[N-Dubz]

Spain likes tourists, as it supplys them money.

Also it is not only tourists! There are some very nice non-tourist areas.

Tbh the NHS aint free, coz you get charged in tax, and if you think about it, mos thte money goes to drunks, and druggies :P

I hate the weather :D

Also when i said gangs i was referring to your chavs too.

I dont want to live in America as i am Anti-Americanism (As Terry Wogan calls it) :P

Everywhere likes tourists, but not everyone like immigrants and even you was complaing about them and you are one!

The NHS is free, an I really don't care if Im giving money to drunks and druggies if it helps them survive. It dont make a massive diffrence in my life - as everyone gets charged Tax. As long as my health is sucurely free and whenever I get ill I dont have to worry about paying seriously.

Gangs and chavs? LMAO you think they dont have annoying people in spain? or any gangs at all?

[Abbie.]

move to northern ireland (Y).

its better.

[AgnesIO]

Everywhere likes tourists, but not everyone like immigrants and even you was complaing about them and you are one!

The NHS is free, an I really don't care if Im giving money to drunks and druggies if it helps them survive. It dont make a massive diffrence in my life - as everyone gets charged Tax. As long as my health is sucurely free and whenever I get ill I dont have to worry about paying seriously.

Gangs and chavs? LMAO you think they dont have annoying people in spain? or any gangs at all?


I know perfectly well they have gangs in Spain,. but the police service is much better.

And Marbella is having problems with shootings, because gay english, irish, and romanians fighting.

And i was complaining about immigrants that dont work.

[Cwmbran]

lol at the last option.
i wouldnt know because i dont live there [:
Say yes.

[Nereo]

England isn't perfect, but neither is Spain :P

Italy is where its at :D:D:D

[N-Dubz]

I know perfectly well they have gangs in Spain,. but the police service is much better.

And Marbella is having problems with shootings, because gay english, irish, and romanians fighting.

And i was complaining about immigrants that dont work.

Our police service is actually really good, they try to tackle as much as they can.

An why do you have something really against English people, at the end of the day we are one of the best countries in my eyes. For a little tiny island we're doing alright really.

An will you always be an employed immigrant then? Its hard to get a job nowdays you know, its big competition.

[5,5]

Its because America owns you guys :)

[AgnesIO]

England isn't perfect, but neither is Spain :P

Italy is where its at :D:D:D


I never said spain is perfect, but it is my favourite country (Althoguht i really like, Italy, Australia and Turkey :))


Our police service is actually really good, they try to tackle as much as they can.

An why do you have something really against English people, at the end of the day we are one of the best countries in my eyes. For a little tiny island we're doing alright really.

An will you always be an employed immigrant then? Its hard to get a job nowdays you know, its big competition.

Look , i am half english, so i dont have anything aggainst them, i have ALOT aggainst the country though.

Abd our police service, has no powe, they cant tackle anyone, because its aggainst human rights. Just admit it the countrys crap.

Also you dont seriously think immigrants come over here, to do it not for benefits.

[alexxxxx]

nah, england is great.

[N-Dubz]

I never said spain is perfect, but it is my favourite country (Althoguht i really like, Italy, Australia and Turkey :))



Look , i am half english, so i dont have anything aggainst them, i have ALOT aggainst the country though.

Abd our police service, has no powe, they cant tackle anyone, because its aggainst human rights. Just admit it the countrys crap.

Also you dont seriously think immigrants come over here, to do it not for benefits.

So what do Spain police do thats so perfect? Actually I kinda find foreign countries police really bad - look how the portaguese handled the Maddie case ahah disaster!

They tackle no one? All police are brave no matter how much you denie that. Sorry they cant change the world rules or nuffin'.

The countries not crap just because of the police, in fact the people in the country make it crap so you should really be blaming every single person in the country for not suiting up to your need's.

Immigrants come over here because most of them get paid better over here, even polish people in my school admitted that because its true.
An whats so bad about coming over here to get paid better? Your going to spain because its "better". Same meat diffrent gravy really.

:-) but I hope you have a nice time in Spain.

[alexxxxx]

And i was complaining about immigrants that dont work.

immigrants (apart from those from the EU or spouses of those from UK) HAVE to work, as they aren't allowed Benefits. AND OF COURSE IMMIGRANTS COME HERE NOT JUST FOR BENEFITS. ARE YOU STUPID?

[AgnesIO]

So what do Spain police do thats so perfect? Actually I kinda find foreign countries police really bad - look how the portaguese handled the Maddie case ahah disaster!

They tackle no one? All police are brave no matter how much you denie that. Sorry they cant change the world rules or nuffin'.

The countries not crap just because of the police, in fact the people in the country make it crap so you should really be blaming every single person in the country for not suiting up to your need's.

Immigrants come over here because most of them get paid better over here, even polish people in my school admitted that because its true.
An whats so bad about coming over here to get paid better? Your going to spain because its "better". Same meat diffrent gravy really.

:-) but I hope you have a nice time in Spain.

They dont they come here for benefits, romanians.

The spanish police have power, like the police have, a police man here, could touch me, or i could do him for assault.

I mean sort it out ><

[N-Dubz]

They dont they come here for benefits, romanians.

The spanish police have power, like the police have, a police man here, could touch me, or i could do him for assault.

I mean sort it out ><


Would you want a police man pushing you around? There kinda bad really. Okay they can push you about abit, does that make them GOOD?

lol its not the police that make the country terriable really

[Neversoft]

I'd rather live in England than Spain.

[Corporal]

You complain about imigrants, yet you do it yourself.

[Abbie.]

id hate to live in england

even though i am for uni next year :(

[Prof-Alex]

your "admit it this countrys crap" argument doesnt hold much ground really, something like that is very subjective. however i have been to switzerland and love everything about it. im sure they have problems too but they wernt nearly as evident as in the uk

[JackBuddy]

I know perfectly well they have gangs in Spain,. but the police service is much better.

And Marbella is having problems with shootings, because gay english, irish, and romanians fighting.

And i was complaining about immigrants that dont work.
what about the ETA then, the spanish terrorist group working within your precious country?

DJ-Dominator I think you need to back what you say before you post stupid comments. 99% of what you have said is total bull ****. You open your eyes and look at the real world outside of your bubble.

[AgnesIO]

You complain about imigrants, yet you do it yourself.

Oh *** can anyone read? I DISLIKE IMMIGRANTS THAT DONT WORK, AND LIVE OF THE COUNTRYS BENEFITS. ALSO BEING HALF SPANISH, I KINDA COULD COUNT AS A CITIZEN IF I STAYED THERE LONG ENOUGH.


your "admit it this countrys crap" argument doesnt hold much ground really, something like that is very subjective. however i have been to switzerland and love everything about it. im sure they have problems too but they wernt nearly as evident as in the uk

Agreed about second bit, Switzeland is supposed to be a very good country.


what about the ETA then, the spanish terrorist group working within your precious country?

DJ-Dominator I think you need to back what you say before you post stupid comments. 99% of what you have said is total bull ****. You open your eyes and look at the real world outside of your bubble.

ETA are dealt with bloody well too. Spain and most countrys take terror threats seriously (Which sadly england didnt do for 7/7) I mean last month with those bombs, Spain evacuated the airport incredibly fast, as i was there..

[Jordy]

Corrupt? Our government is a lot of things but I'm quite certain in saying that our country is not ran by corruptness.

If you want to see what a corrupt country looks like, look at Italy, Russia or America! We are far from corrupt.

[Corporal]

Oh *** can anyone read? I DISLIKE IMMIGRANTS THAT DONT WORK, AND LIVE OF THE COUNTRYS BENEFITS. ALSO BEING HALF SPANISH, I KINDA COULD COUNT AS A CITIZEN IF I STAYED THERE LONG ENOUGH.



Agreed about second bit, Switzeland is supposed to be a very good country.



ETA are dealt with bloody well too. Spain and most countrys take terror threats seriously (Which sadly england didnt do for 7/7) I mean last month with those bombs, Spain evacuated the airport incredibly fast, as i was there..
What do you mean?
7/7 was something that we didnt know was going to happen!

aswell you didnt put that in your orginal post.
And so wat? Things like the Dole have been sorted fairly well tbh.

[N-Dubz]

How can you deal with a terroist attack you know nothing about?

I guess it's all the american's thought that 9/11 happened then? No. You cannot deal with something that you do not knows going to happen.

An we're making a big memorial thing for them, so actually we handled it pretty damn well - people were rushing about helping everyone AS soon as it was found out. Which you would expect anyways.

An didnt England get a threat in Hefrow airport? That was handled really well aswell, but its hard you know if your not "prewarned" about these things. Terroist bombers are not gonna come up to you and say "yeah I'm planting a bomb in 60 seconds, figure out what to do! GO!" is it?

An spain cannot be handling the ETA well if there still about, whatever that is.

Spain arn't as great as you make them sound, you cant back half your arguments.

I'd rather be in England then most of these big countries thinking there so great aha.

[AgnesIO]

I have said its not just spain.

I have mentioned, turkey, australia, italy and i have never been to switzeland but there is supposed to be good.

some terrorist groups do warn you, ETA for example give you 30 mins to evacuate airport, and find the bomb.

And there was evidence that we did have a feeling the 7/7 was being planned but when we did not know.

[Virgin Mary]

Foreign police are ****, french police ignore anyone who isn't french, american police overreact and kill suspects in the process of arresting them and spanish police eat tacos all day

[AgnesIO]

Foreign police are ****, french police ignore anyone who isn't french, american police overreact and kill suspects in the process of arresting them and spanish police eat tacos all day


loooooooooooool

I love the Guardia Civil, the ledgends let me go on the quad bike :o

[N-Dubz]

I have said its not just spain.

I have mentioned, turkey, australia, italy and i have never been to switzeland but there is supposed to be good.

some terrorist groups do warn you, ETA for example give you 30 mins to evacuate airport, and find the bomb.

And there was evidence that we did have a feeling the 7/7 was being planned but when we did not know.

Oh yeah we had a "feeling" LMAO. You have to sit it out, it could have been anywhere and they thought it was going to be a tourist attraction or something. You can't cancel every single thing in the country because someone had a feeling - it would NOT work.
An didnt we find the plans of them trying to get the London eye blown up or something? Least we saved something. :rolleyes:

Well in all our terroist attacks they have never been prewarned, so maybe Spain have it abit easier.

[AgnesIO]

Oh yeah we had a "feeling" LMAO. You have to sit it out, it could have been anywhere and they thought it was going to be a tourist attraction or something. You can't cancel every single thing in the country because someone had a feeling - it would NOT work.
An didnt we find the plans of them trying to get the London eye blown up or something? Least we saved something. :rolleyes:

Well in all our terroist attacks they have never been prewarned, so maybe Spain have it abit easier.


Spain and other foreign countrys have it much easier, because they dont spend all day going 'OMGZ WE WILL KILL YOU AL QAEDA!!!'

When i say 'feeling' i mean there is evidence that a attack was going to take place, so wh ydidnt we hack al qaeda's websites, to find out where?

[N-Dubz]

Spain and other foreign countrys have it much easier, because they dont spend all day going 'OMGZ WE WILL KILL YOU AL QAEDA!!!'

When i say 'feeling' i mean there is evidence that a attack was going to take place, so wh ydidnt we hack al qaeda's websites, to find out where?

you make it sound so easy aha and there wasnt no EVIDENCE it would happen.
where is this evidence?!?!?!?

an no actually we dont sit there going "we will kill you!!!" aha, when have we ever let off that impression?
I would say we're a very forgiving country actually.. :rolleyes:

[AgnesIO]

you make it sound so easy aha and there wasnt no EVIDENCE it would happen.
where is this evidence?!?!?!?

an no actually we dont sit there going "we will kill you!!!" aha, when have we ever let off that impression?
I would say we're a very forgiving country actually.. :rolleyes:

Far to forgiving..

Judge 'So why did you murder this person?'
Boy 'Dunno i guess its fun..'
Judge 'Oooh im sure you wont do it again, you can go :)'

:l

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And we always go on about Al Qaeda need to die blah blah.

[Axel]

Well judging by my estate, where everyone seems to think long hair = emo, yes.

[JackBuddy]

Agreed about second bit, Switzeland is supposed to be a very good country.

Switzerland is a tax haven, but you moaned about the taxes in England. You are digging your own grave here...

To say that the 7/7 bombings weren't dealt with seriously is a ridiculous thing to say. What more can you expect?

I seem to remember Al Quaeda bombing trains in Madrid a few years ago...

If only life was as simple and basic as you make it sound...

[N-Dubz]

Huh? Make sense please.

England is a very forgiving country but of course we wouldnt let them walk free till after they did there time after killing someone, who would?

Your getting yourself into a rut because you honestly dont know what your on about do you?

England isnt a bad country at all an its a shame you think it is.
:)

[e5]

I said no but I meant NO YOU ******* TRAITOR.

I'll back up my country anyday, don't care what the wheter brings :/ I LOVE MY COUNTRY!

BRITISH BORN AND BRED.

[Corporal]

Spain and other foreign countrys have it much easier, because they dont spend all day going 'OMGZ WE WILL KILL YOU AL QAEDA!!!'

When i say 'feeling' i mean there is evidence that a attack was going to take place, so wh ydidnt we hack al qaeda's websites, to find out where?
When was the last time we said something like that?
We are in Afganistan because we are a member of NATO, and if you are a member of NATO if they ask for troops you have to comply. Same as the UN.

Also can you link me to the report that states that? and hacking there website wouldnt really help as belive it or not but there not stupid! They wouldnt put something like that on there.

[AgnesIO]

Switzerland is a tax haven, but you moaned about the taxes in England. You are digging your own grave here...

To say that the 7/7 bombings weren't dealt with seriously is a ridiculous thing to say. What more can you expect?

I seem to remember Al Quaeda bombing trains in Madrid a few years ago...

If only life was as simple and basic as you make it sound...

I said Swtizeland is SUPPOSED to be a very good country, and as i said because i have never been there i just judge buy what people have said..

Also since then Spain have stayed well back from Al Qaeda and not gone to cause more trouble - Exactly what the UK does do..


Huh? Make sense please.

England is a very forgiving country but of course we wouldnt let them walk free till after they did there time after killing someone, who would?

Your getting yourself into a rut because you honestly dont know what your on about do you?

England isnt a bad country at all an its a shame you think it is.
:)

Tbh, we are far to soft on murderers - Bring the death sentance back.

I do know what i am on about, or i weouldnt still post in the thread.

It is a shame i think it is, and living here for half the year, sadly is enough for me to make my midn up.

[N-Dubz]

Oh yeah because death setence was always clever wasnt it.
What if you got the wrong person? An also we teach them "not to kill" so doing it to them is not really setting an example.

We're not soft we just cant give someone ridicliously amounts of prision sentence really.

Yeah Spain keeps out of things, isnt that abit shameful for such a country? England is a tiny island and still has more guts ahaha.

[Corporal]

I said Swtizeland is SUPPOSED to be a very good country, and as i said because i have never been there i just judge buy what people have said..

Also since then Spain have stayed well back from Al Qaeda and not gone to cause more trouble - Exactly what the UK does do..



Tbh, we are far to soft on murderers - Bring the death sentance back.

I do know what i am on about, or i weouldnt still post in the thread.

It is a shame i think it is, and living here for half the year, sadly is enough for me to make my midn up.
You know by having a attack like they did on spain then not getting invloved is letting them win?
I would sit down with any supporter of al qaeda anyday and discuss there views. They on the other hand dont want this obviously as they think that they will win by scaring people into opinions not discussing.

Also i agree with are soft on murderers, that doesnt mean i will move out of the country to somewhere where they are! it means that i will agree with people who want tuffer sentances!

[JackBuddy]

Spain had the highest rate of immigration between 1995-2005 for the whole of the European Union. During that decade, immigrants in Spain grew by 8.4%, compared to the average of 3.7% for the rest of the EU (http://workpermit.com/european_union/employment_issues.htm).

A large portion of immigration to Spain is illegal. Many people make the dangerous trip to Spain by boat from Africa through the Canary Islands.

lol
..........

http://www.workpermit.com/news/2007-05-18/spain/economic-growth-immigration-benefits.htm

Edit: DJ-Dominator you can't say that Spain haven't done anything to Al Quaeda... They have troops in Afghanistan and had them in Iraq...

[AgnesIO]

Oh yeah because death setence was always clever wasnt it.
What if you got the wrong person? An also we teach them "not to kill" so doing it to them is not really setting an example.

We're not soft we just cant give someone ridicliously amounts of prision sentence really.

Yeah Spain keeps out of things, isnt that abit shameful for such a country? England is a tiny island and still has more guts ahaha.

The death sentance would scare criminals into doing the right thing. oh dont be stupid, we are FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR to soft on sentances.

No spain just isnt stupid, England are quite stupid to sit there threatening, I mean dont be silly, i would rather be the chicken that doesnt cause trouble, than the idiot that cause's more trouble and deaths;



You know by having a attack like they did on spain then not getting invloved is letting them win?
I would sit down with any supporter of al qaeda anyday and discuss there views. They on the other hand dont want this obviously as they think that they will win by scaring people into opinions not discussing.

Also i agree with are soft on murderers, that doesnt mean i will move out of the country to somewhere where they are! it means that i will agree with people who want tuffer sentances!


lol
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http://www.workpermit.com/news/2007-05-18/spain/economic-growth-immigration-benefits.htm

Edit: DJ-Dominator you can't say that Spain haven't done anything to Al Quaeda... They have troops in Afghanistan and had them in Iraq...


That is the coast of southern spain, once you go into the mountains it is a wonderful place. And many are leaving spain aswell now, possibly one of the largest drops too!

Spai ndoesnt get anywhere near as involved, and ocne again neither do post other countrys.

[PaintYourTarget]

You were involved, you got hit, you pussied out.

We have captured every one involved in both the 7/7 and 21/7 attacks/plans, aswell as several others...

I have no chavs in my area, little crime (because an off duty Cheif Inspector actually got it sorted it out)... so yeah, life's actually pretty good here.

[JackBuddy]

The death sentance would scare criminals into doing the right thing. oh dont be stupid, we are FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR to soft on sentances.

No spain just isnt stupid, England are quite stupid to sit there threatening, I mean dont be silly, i would rather be the chicken that doesnt cause trouble, than the idiot that cause's more trouble and deaths;

That is the coast of southern spain, once you go into the mountains it is a wonderful place. And many are leaving spain aswell now, possibly one of the largest drops too!

Spai ndoesnt get anywhere near as involved, and ocne again neither do post other countrys.
I think in all my times on this forum this is probably the worst argument I have seen put forward. You keep contradicting yourself and making excuses for it. Spain has done just as much as Britain anti-terror wise. You moaned about the immigrants in England, and now you are acting as if southern Spain is a completely different part to the rest of the country. The cost of living in England may be expensive, but I'm sure that the average wage is much higher than in Spain.

You're 14... you don't know about half the things you are moaning about.

[Corporal]

That is the coast of southern spain, once you go into the mountains it is a wonderful place. And many are leaving spain aswell now, possibly one of the largest drops too!

Spai ndoesnt get anywhere near as involved, and ocne again neither do post other countrys.
If you want to say spain is better than talk about the whole of spain!
because your comparing parts of a country that are great with a whole country!
and yes they did! just until the madrid train bombings then they let the terroists win!

[AgnesIO]

You were involved, you got hit, you pussied out.

We have captured every one involved in both the 7/7 and 21/7 attacks/plans, aswell as several others...

I have no chavs in my area, little crime (because an off duty Cheif Inspector actually got it sorted it out)... so yeah, life's actually pretty good here.

The thing is we arnt digging enough for the people behind it all, we go for the people that have been 'brainwashed'

And better ***** out, than cause more pain for familys.


I think in all my times on this forum this is probably the worst argument I have seen put forward. You keep contradicting yourself and making excuses for it. Spain has done just as much as Britain anti-terror wise. You moaned about the immigrants in England, and now you are acting as if southern Spain is a completely different part to the rest of the country. The cost of living in England may be expensive, but I'm sure that the average wage is much higher than in Spain.

You're 14... you don't know about half the things you are moaning about.

Just because im 14 doesnt mean im completely stupid, plank.

According to ETA southern and northern spain should be seperated..

But spain doesnt do all the anti terror crap, 24/7. I can read spanish papers etc, and If you compare it to England:

English: And this person has been stabbed today.
Spanish: Citizens celebrated today over the new facilities.

See the difference?


If you want to say spain is better than talk about the whole of spain!
because your comparing parts of a country that are great with a whole country!
and yes they did! just until the madrid train bombings then they let the terroists win!


I am not JUST referring to spain.

Right through this thread, I have said most other countrys are good, it is just ****** england..

Better let the terroists win, and the terrorist stop bombing you, than aggraovate the terrorists to do more.

[Virgin Mary]

The spanish latinos are hardly great, many of them are racist and backwards. Hence the spanish armada having a new ******* torn by the British armada.

[JackBuddy]

The thing is we arnt digging enough for the people behind it all, we go for the people that have been 'brainwashed'

And better ***** out, than cause more pain for familys.



Just because im 14 doesnt mean im completely stupid, plank.

According to ETA southern and northern spain should be seperated..

But spain doesnt do all the anti terror crap, 24/7. I can read spanish papers etc, and If you compare it to England:

English: And this person has been stabbed today.
Spanish: Citizens celebrated today over the new facilities.

See the difference?




I am not JUST referring to spain.

Right through this thread, I have said most other countrys are good, it is just ****** england..

Better let the terroists win, and the terrorist stop bombing you, than aggraovate the terrorists to do more.
Just because Spain haven't had an attack in a few years it doesn't mean there aren't plots to cause more devastation. Just about every westernised country's security services are constantly foiling new plots. I'm sure all this 'Anti-terror crap' has to be done for our own safety.

Earlier you said that there should be a death penalty to criminals, now you are saying that terorrists shouldn't be punished.

[AgnesIO]

The spanish latinos are hardly great, many of them are racist and backwards. Hence the spanish armada having a new ******* torn by the British armada.

I admit that about spain.

Many of them are VERY racist, and the tomato fight is very bad, because of poverty.


Just because Spain haven't had an attack in a few years it doesn't mean there aren't plots to cause more devastation. Just about every westernised country's security services are constantly foiling new plots. I'm sure all this 'Anti-terror crap' has to be done for our own safety.

Earlier you said that there should be a death penalty to criminals, now you are saying that terorrists shouldn't be punished.

No i meant, that instead of worrying as much about the suider bomber,s we need to get the people that tll them to do it too.

[Corporal]

The thing is we arnt digging enough for the people behind it all, we go for the people that have been 'brainwashed'

And better ***** out, than cause more pain for familys.



Just because im 14 doesnt mean im completely stupid, plank.

According to ETA southern and northern spain should be seperated..

But spain doesnt do all the anti terror crap, 24/7. I can read spanish papers etc, and If you compare it to England:

English: And this person has been stabbed today.
Spanish: Citizens celebrated today over the new facilities.

See the difference?




I am not JUST referring to spain.

Right through this thread, I have said most other countrys are good, it is just ****** england..

Better let the terroists win, and the terrorist stop bombing you, than aggraovate the terrorists to do more.
Its not better to let them win!
because that prooves that they can make people scared and it will let them win.

[JackBuddy]

No i meant, that instead of worrying as much about the suider bomber,s we need to get the people that tll them to do it too.
please elaborate...

[AgnesIO]

Its not better to let them win!
because that prooves that they can make people scared and it will let them win.

Its not 'scared' its COMMON SENSE.


please elaborate...

I mean like, we should get the bombs out the way, sort them out nice and quickly (No court delays) then head straight on to find the people hgih up in the group, as these are the people that get the people to do it, i mean Bin Laden is a bit of a ***** him self, he ownly gets other people to do it for him, he would never go out himself, even before he was wanted!


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P.S. WHOEVER -REPPED ME, IS MORE OF A ***** THAN YOU SAY SPAIN IS, COZ YOU WONT EVEN LEAVE YOUR NAME.. :l

[Virgin Mary]

Also spanish people don't know how to laugh properly.. *** is jajaja it's like an epileptic fit. If you want to move somewhere do it in the commonwealth like Australia or Canada, nice countries with normal people =)

[JackBuddy]

I mean like, we should get the bombs out the way, sort them out nice and quickly (No court delays) then head straight on to find the people hgih up in the group, as these are the people that get the people to do it, i mean Bin Laden is a bit of a ***** him self, he ownly gets other people to do it for him, he would never go out himself, even before he was wanted!


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P.S. WHOEVER -REPPED ME, IS MORE OF A ***** THAN YOU SAY SPAIN IS, COZ YOU WONT EVEN LEAVE YOUR NAME.. :l
Which is why there is a conflict going on in Afghanistan...

'Giving in' which is apparently common sense is probably the worst thing you can do. 'Giving in' makes you more vulnerable and prone to future attacks- and lets the terrorists win.

[alexxxxx]

ETA are dealt with bloody well too. Spain and most countrys take terror threats seriously (Which sadly england didnt do for 7/7) I mean last month with those bombs, Spain evacuated the airport incredibly fast, as i was there..

That's because it was a bomb THREAT.

As you are probably too ignorant to know, there used to be a little terrorist organisation in Ireland that BOMBED and BOMB THREATENED places in the UK. Thousands were killed, but thousands were saved by MI5, intelligence, army, police etc.

You make it sound like radical Islamic terrorists are the only terrorists ever to grace europe, along with ETA.

[AgnesIO]

Also spanish people don't know how to laugh properly.. *** is jajaja it's like an epileptic fit. If you want to move somewhere do it in the commonwealth like Australia or Canada, nice countries with normal people =)

Now your being racist taking the piss out of how people speak and say things :S

But yeh Australia is a nice place, and I know some very nice Canadians.


Which is why there is a conflict going on in Afghanistan...

'Giving in' which is apparently common sense is probably the worst thing you can do. 'Giving in' makes you more vulnerable and prone to future attacks- and lets the terrorists win.

Giving in, would mean the terroists will ignore you, as they are bored, they wouldnt attack us, if we didnt aggravte them!

[.Nickie]

I'm proud to be english. Just cause some people are lazy and stuff doesnt mean everyone is. I'm sure in every country people are lazy. Doesnt matter where you live

[AgnesIO]

;5108484']That's because it was a bomb THREAT.

As you are probably too ignorant to know, there used to be a little terrorist organisation in Ireland that BOMBED and BOMB THREATENED places in the UK. Thousands were killed, but thousands were saved by MI5, intelligence, army, police etc.

You make it sound like radical Islamic terrorists are the only terrorists ever to grace europe, along with ETA.


They are just waht iam concentrating on...

There is also the Taliban and many other not so famous ones...

Thousands were saved yes, but thousands should not of been killed.

Your comment is a bit like saying 'You make it sound like the only pop artist in Madonna, when there are so many more, dont talk about Madonna as much, because there are more people you arnt giving enough attention' :S

[Ramones]

Its not 'scared' its COMMON SENSE.



I mean like, we should get the bombs out the way, sort them out nice and quickly (No court delays) then head straight on to find the people hgih up in the group, as these are the people that get the people to do it, i mean Bin Laden is a bit of a ***** him self, he ownly gets other people to do it for him, he would never go out himself, even before he was wanted!


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P.S. WHOEVER -REPPED ME, IS MORE OF A ***** THAN YOU SAY SPAIN IS, COZ YOU WONT EVEN LEAVE YOUR NAME.. :l

I'm sorry i didn't realise you worked for an anti terrorist organisation. Do you think they sit around and do nothing all day, that they don't care about where the threats are coming from? There are people working around the clock to hunt down and stop terrorists, the people they capture or plots they exploit aren't aswell publicised as the attacks themselves, which you obviously haven't realised. I'm not even arguing that englands better than spain because that's just pointless, you pretty much have no grounds to compare them on. However i do agree with one thing you said, a majority of the british newspapers only report negative things. BUT THIS DOESNT MEAN NICE THINGS DONT HAPPEN. Congratulations spain.

[JackBuddy]

Giving in, would mean the terroists will ignore you, as they are bored, they wouldnt attack us, if we didnt aggravte them!
Understatement of the century.

[AgnesIO]

I'm sorry i didn't realise you worked for an anti terrorist organisation. Do you think they sit around and do nothing all day, that they don't care about where the threats are coming from? There are people working around the clock to hunt down and stop terrorists, the people they capture or plots they exploit aren't aswell publicised as the attacks themselves, which you obviously haven't realised. I'm not even arguing that englands better than spain because that's just pointless, you pretty much have no grounds to compare them on. However i do agree with one thing you said, a majority of the british newspapers only report negative things. BUT THIS DOESNT MEAN NICE THINGS DONT HAPPEN. Congratulations spain.

Oooh ***. CANT YOU READ WHAT I HAVE SAID THROUGH THE THREAD. I HAVE MENTIONED VIRTUALLY EVERY COUNTRY EXCEPT USA, RUSSIA AND UK. LEARN TO ******* READ.

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Back on track.. :P

I know they do try to work on stopping terrorists, but many of the threats are ignored.


I'm proud to be english. Just cause some people are lazy and stuff doesnt mean everyone is. I'm sure in every country people are lazy. Doesnt matter where you live

And i respect you for that. :)

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Look guys i asked a simple question in a poll, and have given my opinion.

I am not here to have a huge arguement, and i still find it very funny, that I was -repped by a certain someone who called spain '*****' then left a -rep, and was scared to leave his name.. Two faced or what?

[JackBuddy]

DJ-Dominator, I think the reason for every being annoyed with you is for the following reasons:

You don't back you arguments.
You have been proved wrong many times but won't admit defeat.
You views on terrorism are pathetic.
You're 14, not a politician or a worker for the Spanish security services.
Your views are very 1 sided and bias.

[Ramones]

Oooh ***. CANT YOU READ WHAT I HAVE SAID THROUGH THE THREAD. I HAVE MENTIONED VIRTUALLY EVERY COUNTRY EXCEPT USA, RUSSIA AND UK. LEARN TO ******* READ.



eh? you've confused me, try reading my post again and look what i'm trying to say

[AgnesIO]

DJ-Dominator, I think the reason for every being annoyed with you is for the following reasons:

You don't back you arguments.
You have been proved wrong many times but won't admit defeat.
You views on terrorism are pathetic.
You're 14, not a politician or a worker for the Spanish security services.
Your views are very 1 sided and bias.


1) I have backed my arguements, but there is a limit to how i can.
2) Isnt a forum for people to debate? So why should i admit defeat, thats exactly what you have told me is wrong??
3) think highly of you too.
4) Age is not important.
5) I respect views of people from the UK as i showed in last post, but i do not respect the UK as part of Europe, or a decent country.

Thank you.

[alexxxxx]

There is also the Taliban and many other not so famous ones...

Thousands were saved yes, but thousands should not of been killed.


The Taleban were actually supported by the UK and the USA when they were attacking the soviets in the 70s? 80s

there are thousands of groups of people, some are labeled as terrorists and some are labeled as political/religious/culteral groups. Where do you draw the line?

You can't save every person. It's not possible.

[Rixion]

I love spain, much better than england.

Moving there soon x

[Browney]

Im tremendously grateful for living here. I could be living in Darfur or something. the UK is rich, we are (reasonably) powerful and we got fish 'n' chips. ^_^ ok, we're not perfect but no country is. yeah the weathers not great, so what! put on a sweater, buy a coat! it's worth it. :D

[Dan2nd]

I'm in incredibly patriotic person I think England is the most fantastic country in the world. I've been on holiday to spain before and yes it's a very nice place.. but I dunno why I just find spanish people as a whole to be quite rude. Here's an example.. when I was in a super market in marbella all of the english tourists chavs, OAPs, the middle class, and rich people alike all were standing in line waiting to be served at the checkouts. This spanish woman obivously didn't feel like waiting she pushed to the front shouting something about having a small child and needing to go first.. bearing in mind she pushed past about three other families with small kids.. sure that could have been a one off but the exact same thing happened when we were in line trying to get a table in a restuarent and when we were standing in line boarding the plane on the way home.. This is not only the case in spain I found the americans do it in florida when I went to disney world, the french do it and many other countries aswell.... in fact the only place I don't think I've ever had this is in england..

I'm trying to say it's not the police or the goverment who make a country great it's the people that live there and I've gotta say sure we have our fair share of gang crime, political problems and terror threats but man us english are sure polite folk =]

[ToxicPaddy]

I voted unsure. On one hand, it has these so called 'chavs' and a rather high knife and gun crime rate. On the other hand, we could be living in somewhere like the poor parts of Africa. I guess we should be grateful for what we have :)

[JackBuddy]

I voted unsure. On one hand, it has these so called 'chavs' and a rather high knife and gun crime rate. On the other hand, we could be living in somewhere like the poor parts of Africa. I guess we should be grateful for what we have :)
What you have to remember though is that these killings are escalated by the media and the crime rate isn't as high as you would think.

but DJ-Dominator, just look at every post you have made. For most of them, somebody has proved you wrong. You keep coming up with excuses and are too ignorant to know you are wrong.

[AgnesIO]

I love spain, much better than england.

Moving there soon x

100% Agree, atleast someone isnt just in the thread to fight.


I'm in incredibly patriotic person I think England is the most fantastic country in the world. I've been on holiday to spain before and yes it's a very nice place.. but I dunno why I just find spanish people as a whole to be quite rude. Here's an example.. when I was in a super market in marbella all of the english tourists chavs, OAPs, the middle class, and rich people alike all were standing in line waiting to be served at the checkouts. This spanish woman obivously didn't feel like waiting she pushed to the front shouting something about having a small child and needing to go first.. bearing in mind she pushed past about three other families with small kids.. sure that could have been a one off but the exact same thing happened when we were in line trying to get a table in a restuarent and when we were standing in line boarding the plane on the way home.. This is not only the case in spain I found the americans do it in florida when I went to disney world, the french do it and many other countries aswell.... in fact the only place I don't think I've ever had this is in england..

I'm trying to say it's not the police or the goverment who make a country great it's the people that live there and I've gotta say sure we have our fair share of gang crime, political problems and terror threats but man us english are sure polite folk =]

You would be amazed ;) I have seen the elderyly in suermarkets saying 'Excuse me, have a wheelchair, I need to pay for my food' we're like well er so do we :P

But that does happen everywhere, and i 100% respect the post you made!

I voted unsure. On one hand, it has these so called 'chavs' and a rather high knife and gun crime rate. On the other hand, we could be living in somewhere like the poor parts of Africa. I guess we should be grateful for what we have :)

I respect you. I totally agree we are lucky to atleast be in a country where you are not living on the streets and have dirty water.


What you have to remember though is that these killings are escalated by the media and the crime rate isn't as high as you would think.

but DJ-Dominator, just look at every post you have made. For most of them, somebody has proved you wrong. You keep coming up with excuses and are too ignorant to know you are wrong.

Yes but virtually every country takes the piss out of the UK, over our killings 'If you want to die over the summer, check in to the UK' ~ New Zealand

Also you havent backed up your posts, you are being just a bias..

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+Rep to anyone who i respect, or has looked at both sides.

And when i get VIP I will know the *****'s who -repped me but were scared to leave there name 'your an idiot' well thanks, if your that ******* hard reveal yourself.

[Ramones]

Ok, I am under 15 years old, and I live in half England/Half spain.

And tbh Spain is 100% better.

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England is now full of gangs, and immigrants that are lazy *TEXT REMOVED* living off benefits. The weather is clearly ****e, and the country is becoming way to over crowded. The cost of living is ridiculous now, and half the people, think they are all it, and may aswell all go and die. Also the goverment is so 'We need money and power' it is untrue. I mean all that they ever care about is what America do, the UK is like America's ******* kids.

Do you agree, that England is a ****e place to live now?

Thanks,

Dom

Edited by lAscend (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't avoid the forum filter.

I kinda forgot where this thread was going, so i'ma gonna revert back to your original argument and try to persuade you that some of your points are wrong.

England is full of gangs. Ok possibly true, i wouldn't say full of, i say it's just as full as it always has been, as many other places always have also. Chavs are the new hippy's ask anyone over 40.

You can't say there are loads of immigrants that are lazy and live off benefits, cause it's just not true. It's fact that the UK economy would be nothing without the Immigrants that come into the UK. Like someone else pointed out, you can't just come to the country and live off benefits, you have to get a job, and most of the time the jobs are the ones that nobody wants to too, i respect the people coming in from other countries. I don't like to call them immigrants because the word is perceived as being bad. Now if you're referring to illegal immigrants i totally agree with you.

The Uk isn't becoming overcrowded, try living in asia. Or just move to wales?

The cost of living is rising, yeah. So is the rest of the world, you can criticize the world economy all you want but you can't blame the UK for this, and say that this isn't happening anywhere else, because it is.

'half the people, think they are all it, and may aswell all go and die'
You can't blame people for having a go at you saying you're too young to know about anything when you go and say things like that. I disagree with the people saying you're only 14 because i think you're right, it's about opinion, and it's good that you do actually have an opinion, even if you do need to be educated more. I don't know what you define as 'think they're all it' but where i'm from i'd say about 5% of the population of my school and college think they're all it. I don't think thats a rising problem in the UK, it's a fact of life that you'll get wherever you are.

I'm not an expert in politics but i'm pretty sure the government don't think 'we need money and power'. I do know that they try to do their best for the people. If you want to criticize them for anything i'd do it for them being s****, and out of touch with the rest of the country, you may have an argument there.

And the whole UK-America thing is just silly, just because we helped stabilize countries they were fighting in, it doesn't mean we love them. Even if Tony Blair did fancy georgie boy.

i think im done for now

[AgnesIO]

I kinda forgot where this thread was going, so i'ma gonna revert back to your original argument and try to persuade you that some of your points are wrong.

England is full of gangs. Ok possibly true, i wouldn't say full of, i say it's just as full as it always has been, as many other places always have also. Chavs are the new hippy's ask anyone over 40.

You can't say there are loads of immigrants that are lazy and live off benefits, cause it's just not true. It's fact that the UK economy would be nothing without the Immigrants that come into the UK. Like someone else pointed out, you can't just come to the country and live off benefits, you have to get a job, and most of the time the jobs are the ones that nobody wants to too, i respect the people coming in from other countries. I don't like to call them immigrants because the word is perceived as being bad. Now if you're referring to illegal immigrants i totally agree with you.

The Uk isn't becoming overcrowded, try living in asia. Or just move to wales?

The cost of living is rising, yeah. So is the rest of the world, you can criticize the world economy all you want but you can't blame the UK for this, and say that this isn't happening anywhere else, because it is.

'half the people, think they are all it, and may aswell all go and die'
You can't blame people for having a go at you saying you're too young to know about anything when you go and say things like that. I disagree with the people saying you're only 14 because i think you're right, it's about opinion, and it's good that you do actually have an opinion, even if you do need to be educated more. I don't know what you define as 'think they're all it' but where i'm from i'd say about 5% of the population of my school and college think they're all it. I don't think thats a rising problem in the UK, it's a fact of life that you'll get wherever you are.

I'm not an expert in politics but i'm pretty sure the government don't think 'we need money and power'. I do know that they try to do their best for the people. If you want to criticize them for anything i'd do it for them being s****, and out of touch with the rest of the country, you may have an argument there.

And the whole UK-America thing is just silly, just because we helped stabilize countries they were fighting in, it doesn't mean we love them. Even if Tony Blair did fancy georgie boy.

i think im done for now


Even though i dont agree with your opinions, I do respect you for the post +Rep.

I also disagree about the UK-America, as imo we might aswell be their slaves, but i 100% agree about the Blair-Bush bit, that made me laugh :D

[Rixion]

England is a nice country. Sometimes I'd say that I'd swap it for scrabble but it's not that bad, but Gordon brown he is an ******** lol. As for the credit crunch, shop at home bargains lol :D

I prefer Spain for the beaches, weather, cheaper and I love it but thats me. I'd love to visit other countries aswell Florida is nice, but i've heard about hurricanes so nooo lool. Cyprus seems nice too and australia but the big brother there is bad lol. Anyway I still think England is ok for me for the time-being but not forever noo, it just brings me down sometimes like the murders and chavs but thats life. BRITAIN IS AWESOME STILL, but the various parts are bad. This is my opinion so sorry if you disagree, the first chance I get to move to Spain or a nice abroad country i'll take it lol.

Wow thats the most i've ever wrote lol.

[Misawa]

I dislike what England has become, but Spain? No thanks. And the reason for that - The English have taken over it - you certainly don't want to be near Madrid or Barcelona, or any city over there, not anymore.

[sock]

I don't know what your all complaining about chavs for, I mean chavs aren;t bad, all they do is sit there on walls and smoke ****, they don't do anything to you personally, i'm not a chav so don't say I am, but I've never had them do anything to me and trust me, the place I live is full of chavs, yes Mosside and Liverpool are bad, but chavs aren't bad, i'm guessing you all just listen to the news and you hear all thse people being stabbed and shot, don't worry, these are in rough areas like Liverpool:) and Mossisde in Manchester etc, gangsta's mainly, if you know where to go, then your fine.

[Virgin Mary]

I'm in incredibly patriotic person I think England is the most fantastic country in the world. I've been on holiday to spain before and yes it's a very nice place.. but I dunno why I just find spanish people as a whole to be quite rude. Here's an example.. when I was in a super market in marbella all of the english tourists chavs, OAPs, the middle class, and rich people alike all were standing in line waiting to be served at the checkouts. This spanish woman obivously didn't feel like waiting she pushed to the front shouting something about having a small child and needing to go first.. bearing in mind she pushed past about three other families with small kids.. sure that could have been a one off but the exact same thing happened when we were in line trying to get a table in a restuarent and when we were standing in line boarding the plane on the way home.. This is not only the case in spain I found the americans do it in florida when I went to disney world, the french do it and many other countries aswell.... in fact the only place I don't think I've ever had this is in england..

I'm trying to say it's not the police or the goverment who make a country great it's the people that live there and I've gotta say sure we have our fair share of gang crime, political problems and terror threats but man us english are sure polite folk =]
Plus we have the best sense of humour in the world. And invented the English language which is also the best language in the world. We're just overall the best chick xx

[alexxxxx]

AGREED. (Y)

[JackBuddy]

England is a nice country. Sometimes I'd say that I'd swap it for scrabble but it's not that bad, but Gordon brown he is an ******** lol. As for the credit crunch, shop at home bargains lol :D

I prefer Spain for the beaches, weather, cheaper and I love it but thats me. I'd love to visit other countries aswell Florida is nice, but i've heard about hurricanes so nooo lool. Cyprus seems nice too and australia but the big brother there is bad lol. Anyway I still think England is ok for me for the time-being but not forever noo, it just brings me down sometimes like the murders and chavs but thats life. BRITAIN IS AWESOME STILL, but the various parts are bad. This is my opinion so sorry if you disagree, the first chance I get to move to Spain or a nice abroad country i'll take it lol.

Wow thats the most i've ever wrote lol.
DJ-Dominator I still think you are posting total bull, particularly when you quote and try to reply to all my posts and quote it with stupid unjustified stuff. *especially the new zealand one wth?) Stop replying with comments as if you were the prime minister or a foreign secretary. Anyone would think you are working for the Spanish tourist board or something.

You're 14 and it sounds like you have no proof or evidence behind what you are saying. It sounds like you are going by your mum's word or something.

You know if you were Spanish and weren't bringing your money from the UK you probably wouldn't be able to afford a house better than if you were. Chavs and murders... there are almost 70million people in the UK, the chance of getting murdered is very small and most murders make it in to the national press. That's the only reason every is needlesly ******** themselves over it. I hate people that moan about chavs more than the chavs themselves.

[Corporal]

I am not here to have a huge arguement, and i still find it very funny, that I was -repped by a certain someone who called spain '*****' then left a -rep, and was scared to leave his name.. Two faced or what?
Did you recive two negative reps? as i gave one to you, which didnt contain any swear words. and it isnt really two faced not leaving your name, you just seem like the sort of person who would get worked up about it and leave me a negative rep back. Which i couldnt be botherd with having to get removed.

[AgnesIO]

Did you recive two negative reps? as i gave one to you, which didnt contain any swear words. and it isnt really two faced not leaving your name, you just seem like the sort of person who would get worked up about it and leave me a negative rep back. Which i couldnt be botherd with having to get removed.

I dont revenge thanks very much, you hardly know me.

But i do think you were very sad, to not leave your name, as i ggurantee you would if you +repped me.

Thanks for admitting it now.

[Corporal]

I dont revenge thanks very much, you hardly know me.

But i do think you were very sad, to not leave your name, as i ggurantee you would if you +repped me.

Thanks for admitting it now.
i know i hardly know you, but from what i know of you it seems that you cant stand to be wrong.

And yes if i + repped you i would of left my name as i dont mind reciving postive rep.

So are you saying you had two negative reps or that you lied about my comment?

[JackBuddy]

I dont revenge thanks very much, you hardly know me.

But i do think you were very sad, to not leave your name, as i ggurantee you would if you +repped me.

Thanks for admitting it now.
it wasnt me that -repped you cos i need to spread lol

[AgnesIO]

i know i hardly know you, but from what i know of you it seems that you cant stand to be wrong.

And yes if i + repped you i would of left my name as i dont mind reciving postive rep.

So are you saying you had two negative reps or that you lied about my comment?

Lol bit sad if you only put your name on +rep, atleast put your real name...


it wasnt me that -repped you cos i need to spread lol


Lol you must really love me, if you feel you need to put my comment on your sig? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion..

[Alan_Carr]

*Removed*

Edited by ,Jess, (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude toards other forum members.

[AgnesIO]

*Removed*


Read the thread, look at how old I am, then deicde if i have that choice?

Also i aint fat, and as soon as i can go abrod (A nice country) perm i will.


P.S. PaintYourTarget you -repped me, for wrongly assuming who i said -repped me, when you could of just asked there rep power and i would of told you :l

[Corporal]

Lol bit sad if you only put your name on +rep, atleast put your real name...




Lol you must really love me, if you feel you need to put my comment on your sig? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion..
You could be a MP
Because you dont know what your on about
and dont answer the qustion!!
did you recive two negative reps when you posted that post saying someone swore at you in one.

[Bun]

you idiot, i love england. wouldn't swap it for the world.

Edited by lAscend (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't insult other forum.

[Fez]

I hate England.

[AgnesIO]

You could be a MP
Because you dont know what your on about
and dont answer the qustion!!
did you recive two negative reps when you posted that post saying someone swore at you in one.

Answer: YES. I haave 3 now (I am so upset.. :l)


you idiot, i love england. wouldn't swap it for the world.

No need to call me an iidot...


I hate England.


Lol, me too :D

[Rixion]

you quoted me lol my name isn't DJ-Dominator.

all i wanted to do was state my opinion which this thread is about, everyones aloud there own opinion, so don't blast at me cos im not into england nothing wrong with that. I really hate arguments lol so please could I end it there xxx

[AgnesIO]

you quoted me lol my name isn't DJ-Dominator.

all i wanted to do was state my opinion which this thread is about, everyones aloud there own opinion, so don't blast at me cos im not into england nothing wrong with that. I really hate arguments lol so please could I end it there xxx

Lol he wanted to make me look stupid..

Exactly, this is OPINION'S so why the **** i get 3 -reps because people disagree, one of them accused me of accusing them *Cough*paintthetarget*cough* when i said i have got two -rep's, and i clearly didnt aim it at him, since i know the rep power of who -repped me, so it COULDNT have been him (His rep is to high)

Also I did not make the thread in attempt for arguements, i have actually apoligised at times.

I therefore would like the thread CLOSED, as some people cant allow people to have opinions if they dont like it :l

[Loqo]

It's okay. Not as bad as what your making out. But yes, I'd much prefer to emigrate.

[JackBuddy]

I've not got a problem with people having an opinion. I just have a problem when people make false, bias accusations with no proof and think they are foreign secretarys...

[AgnesIO]

I've not got a problem with people having an opinion. I just have a problem when people make false, bias accusations with no proof and think they are foreign secretarys...

1) You obviously do have a problem if someone has a different opinion from you.
2) Well, I have stuck to my OPINION and most my accusations are sadly not far from the truth.
3) I dont think im foreign scretary, since I hate the goverment.

[Corporal]

1) You obviously do have a problem if someone has a different opinion from you.
2) Well, I have stuck to my OPINION and most my accusations are sadly not far from the truth.
3) I dont think im foreign scretary, since I hate the goverment.


You can really use that as a point as you havent backed it up, where is the proof?
Yes you have stuck to your opinion but like you said your opinion isnt the truth.
Just because you hate the goverment doesnt mean you dont wish you were one.

LMAO!
and you say that you wouldnt negative rep back, but you did!
you my friend are a absolute liar!

[Invent]

DJ-Dom some of the things you have said in this thread are completely ridiculous and damn right ignorant.

You have no clue what you're talking about and quite frankly - you're a disgrace to England.

[Kardan]

No, look at the rest of the world.

[Blue.Neon]

actually if anything, we must have 1 of the better countries?

WE WON 2 WORLD WARZZZ!!!

have ittttt xoxox

[Misawa]

America's assistance in Europe pretty much won World War II, and Russia overthrowing Berlin basically ended it.

[alexxxxx]

America's assistance in Europe pretty much won World War II, and Russia overthrowing Berlin basically ended it.

dampen the spirits why don't you.

[Misawa]

Sorry, just referencing history.

*Enters DeLorian*

Hey. Great Britain defeated the Axis of Evil in 1945, after Russia was obliterated in Red Square, and even forced the Japanese to surrender in the Pacific chapter, where te United States of America were about to wave the white flag and allow Japan to take the country over.

[Matty]

In a way yes, where I live they is nothing to do at all, the police do nothing about the kids who stand in this spot allday/night.
However look at LEDCS?

[J0SH]

Depends where you live.

[AgnesIO]

You can really use that as a point as you havent backed it up, where is the proof?
Yes you have stuck to your opinion but like you said your opinion isnt the truth.
Just because you hate the goverment doesnt mean you dont wish you were one.
LMAO!
and you say that you wouldnt negative rep back, but you did!
you my friend are a absolute liar!

I wasnt going to but, you annoyedf me after that, and your not my friend so dont say it :rolleyes:


DJ-Dom some of the things you have said in this thread are completely ridiculous and damn right ignorant.

You have no clue what you're talking about and quite frankly - you're a disgrace to England.


YES!

IM A DISGRACE! Yeh I am so god damn pleased with that, i couldnt give a damn, I mean why dont i murder someone, ill be out in 1 week, if im a 'good boy'

[Corporal]

I wasnt going to but, you annoyedf me after that, and your not my friend so dont say it :rolleyes:




YES!

IM A DISGRACE! Yeh I am so god damn pleased with that, i couldnt give a damn, I mean why dont i murder someone, ill be out in 1 week, if im a 'good boy'
Can you murder yourself?
im still laughing that your such a liar!

[Corporal]

Oh and aswell, i never swore in my rep;)

[banned]

No, I thinking England's great to be honest with you.

[SUPERhanna.]

I'm fine living in england :D!

[Immenseman]

I live in England and I feel lucky to do so. There are certainly worse places to live.

[SUPERhanna.]

The weather could be better though ;)

[Immenseman]

It could be! A lot of things could be worse too. :P

[Ashley 12344]

Try Iraq.

Please.

[JackBuddy]

IM A DISGRACE! Yeh I am so god damn pleased with that, i couldnt give a damn, I mean why dont i murder someone, ill be out in 1 week, if im a 'good boy'
That wouldn't suprise me if that happend if you were government, seeing as you think that terrorists should be ignored. *refers to sig*