Yourfreewebsite (idea)

[Excellent2]

Right seeing as I have a lot of time on my hands and want something to fill it up I'm thinking about starting a "charity" sort of website that will provide free website design and coding for people on request.

All you'd have to do was pick say 3 colours from a js hex code feature and tell us the sites you'd like the design to be like and bam, your website will be made.

You may all be thinking about "how the hell will you make money" well I'd put ads around the site and kindly ask each person who has received a design/coding to click it once. There will also be a paypal donate button somewhere for those who wish to donate to the cause.

Opinions?

[Anticimex]

I could help if you want.

Won't it be better if you do something like FreeWebs?

[L?KE]

Lucas I'm here if you need, and I'm quite obviously leet.

(rofl) :rolleyes:

[Excellent2]

I could help if you want.

Won't it be better if you do something like FreeWebs?Ace :) Well that would mean providing sub domains and hosting, I really don't have the money to set that up, I'd need monthly sponsors for that.

Edit, thanks Luke :)

[L?KE]

S'alright.

You got my msn, so if you need anything doing I'll err, do it *wink*

[Anticimex]

I could ask my friend if he could give you hosting :D

[Excellent2]

S'alright.

You got my msn, so if you need anything doing I'll err, do it *wink*
Oh don't tempt me luke ;) lmao.


I could ask my friend if he could give you hosting :DHe'd need a pretty big server.

[Anticimex]

I don't think he does.. But I'll ask.
Why won't you ask in the Free Requests forum? ;)

[Excellent2]

I don't think he does.. But I'll ask.
Why won't you ask in the Free Requests forum? ;)I'm talking a rack or so :P I wouldn't want to start off buying a small VPS for it to be used up within a month, I'd rather rack it as I'm sure with advertising the site will take off, fast.

[Source]

Are you kidding? A rack... for this site. Please, please, please explain how on earth a site of this nature would require anything along those lines.

[Dentafrice]

Laugh, out, loud. Why would you need a rack? You're not going to be storing something that is high in space, for that.

TehUpload is on a VPS, with 6,420 uploads.. and it's only using 9.01GB and around 139GB of bandwidth.

If it gets more popular, yeah.. clustered servers are going to be a needed thing.

Things like Source-Movies, Motionfrag, Youmeo, need a customized architecture of servers, but not your little project.. :|

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Where would you get that idea?

[Hypertext]

A rack? Hmm. Yeh maybe on like servers from '92.\

Oh. I was supposed to leave. Oh well.

[Dentafrice]

Windows 3.1 with 12KBPS modems.

[Hypertext]

Windows 3.1 with 12KBPS modems.

16kb RAM, 256MB HDD.

[Dentafrice]

never really that low except for DOS1 PC's. Usually 64MB ram in the early 90's were popular with 12KBPS/32KBPS modems, not really 256MB hard drives, my 3.0 computer had a 14MB.

[Hypertext]

never really that low except for DOS1 PC's. Usually 64MB ram in the early 90's were popular with 12KBPS/32KBPS modems, not really 256MB hard drives, my 3.0 computer had a 14MB.

Ouch. What do you do with that? My mom got through college on DOS 1.0.

[Dentafrice]

I still have my Windows 3.0 as well as my 3.1.

It was actually this model for the Windows3.0

http://techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/tpg/tandy_1000.jpg

Radioshack Tandy.

My 3.1 was also a Tandy.

It's in storage.

[Hypertext]

I still have my Windows 3.0 as well as my 3.1.

It was actually this model for the Windows3.0

http://techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/tpg/tandy_1000.jpg

Radioshack Tandy.

My 3.1 was also a Tandy.

It's in storage.

Give it a while and it'll be antique.

[Dentafrice]

It already is to be honest.. I mess around with it once in a while when I go to the storage building, takes 3.5" floppy disks. Mouse has three buttons (not like it is now), curly keyboard wire.

[Hypertext]

It already is to be honest.. I mess around with it once in a while when I go to the storage building, takes 3.5" floppy disks. Mouse has three buttons (not like it is now), curly keyboard wire.

I saw one of those at my friends house, or so I think.. his dad basically had all these old computers, to take peoples old data formats, like 3.5" floppy disks, and convert it to new mediums.

Anyway, enough of the thread hijack: I think it's an interesting idea, but time consuming, and well.. Idk, your choice.

[Dottz]

You may all be thinking about "how the hell will you make money" well I'd put ads around the site and kindly ask each person who has received a design/coding to click it once.
If you plan on using Google Adsense I would read this before you do anything.

"Users should click on Google ads because they're interested in the services being advertised. Encouraging users to click on your Google ads, either directly or indirectly, can lead to inflated advertiser costs and can cause your account to be disabled."

- Sourced from the Google website

[Source]

Laugh, out, loud. Why would you need a rack? You're not going to be storing something that is high in space, for that.

TehUpload is on a VPS, with 6,420 uploads.. and it's only using 9.01GB and around 139GB of bandwidth.

If it gets more popular, yeah.. clustered servers are going to be a needed thing.

Things like Source-Movies, Motionfrag, Youmeo, need a customized architecture of servers, but not your little project.. :|

Now you 2 have stopped banging on about the good ol pc days, time to get back on topic me thinks. 1 of those sites listed, needs a rack because of its immense connection usage. At 1 moment in time we have an average 420mbit consistant usage and around 28tb of bandwidth a month. Thats the sort of service you need a rack for, not free hosting/site hosting/small or low usage sites.

Either way, good luck with this project as I'm sorry to say I think you will need it. In all reality how long could you keep this going before you get other commitments or just get bored...

[DJ-TERRORIST]

I acctuly think that would be a pretty awsome idea i would donate to that.
Come on every differnt computer in my house and change all there ips and click the ads for you to.
Good luck for it and i would be willing to pitch in for you lucas.
I'll design a few layouts here and there in my spare time
With the peoples requested info on them.

"Colors, what they want the site to look like ect.."

Also i would throw a ad for your site up on mine.

[Calon]

A rack?!

You can't think that big as you have no users or target audience and your website hasn't even started yet.

[Excellent2]

Laugh, out, loud. Why would you need a rack? You're not going to be storing something that is high in space, for that.

TehUpload is on a VPS, with 6,420 uploads.. and it's only using 9.01GB and around 139GB of bandwidth.

If it gets more popular, yeah.. clustered servers are going to be a needed thing.

Things like Source-Movies, Motionfrag, Youmeo, need a customized architecture of servers, but not your little project.. :|

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Where would you get that idea?
Picture this, you're not able to design or code layouts because you just don't know how, one day you visit google looking for "Free website templates" and the site "Yourfreewebsite - A whole website for free!" or something comes up, you'd click it wouldn't you. Now times that by how many people daily would search google for them specific search areas = big big userbase.


A rack? Hmm. Yeh maybe on like servers from '92.\

Oh. I was supposed to leave. Oh well.
Picture this, you're not able to design or code layouts because you just don't know how, one day you visit google looking for "Free website templates" and the site "Yourfreewebsite - A whole website for free!" or something comes up, you'd click it wouldn't you. Now times that by how many people daily would search google for them specific search areas = big big userbase.


A rack?!

You can't think that big as you have no users or target audience and your website hasn't even started yet.
Picture this, you're not able to design or code layouts because you just don't know how, one day you visit google looking for "Free website templates" and the site "Yourfreewebsite - A whole website for free!" or something comes up, you'd click it wouldn't you. Now times that by how many people daily would search google for them specific search areas = big big userbase.

[Dentafrice]

Picture this, you're not able to design or code layouts because you just don't know how, one day you visit google looking for "Free website templates" and the site "Yourfreewebsite - A whole website for free!" or something comes up, you'd click it wouldn't you. Now times that by how many people daily would search google for them specific search areas = big big userbase.


Picture this, you're not able to design or code layouts because you just don't know how, one day you visit google looking for "Free website templates" and the site "Yourfreewebsite - A whole website for free!" or something comes up, you'd click it wouldn't you. Now times that by how many people daily would search google for them specific search areas = big big userbase.


Picture this, you're not able to design or code layouts because you just don't know how, one day you visit google looking for "Free website templates" and the site "Yourfreewebsite - A whole website for free!" or something comes up, you'd click it wouldn't you. Now times that by how many people daily would search google for them specific search areas = big big userbase.
Picture this, you wouldn't be a top of google for a while!

And even if you did get a lot of "hits", you still wouldn't need a rack of storage space, just a lot of bandwidth.

[Excellent2]

Picture this, you wouldn't be a top of google for a while!

And even if you did get a lot of "hits", you still wouldn't need a rack of storage space, just a lot of bandwidth.Didn't say I'd be at the top of google but if the site takes off which you can almost guarantee it will then I'll definitely be in the top 5 pages under that specific search :) If I was to offer a sub-domain with hosting like piczo and freewebs do I would.

[Source]

no, you wouldn't you network infrastructure imbosil. (Its a nice comment).

You would only ever need a dedicated box with a big hefty amount of bandwidth. Storage wont be an issue, and the sites won't be high system intensive.

[Excellent2]

no, you wouldn't you network infrastructure imbosil. (Its a nice comment).

You would only ever need a dedicated box with a big hefty amount of bandwidth. Storage wont be an issue, and the sites won't be high system intensive.Imbecile* ;) My bad, I'd need at the very least a few servers.

[Dentafrice]

Imbecile* ;) My bad, I'd need at the very least a few servers.
Laugh, out, loud.. no you wouldn't..

[Excellent2]

Laugh, out, loud.. no you wouldn't..So you're telling my freewebs and piczo have survived off of 1 dedicated server? I think not :P Especially if I allow them somehow to use PHP.

[Dentafrice]

So you're telling my freewebs and piczo have survived off of 1 dedicated server? I think not :P Especially if I allow them somehow to use PHP.
Now you're making a network of sites, just like piczo.. not the original plan.

Of course it didn't survive from one box, if you haven't noticed.. they store the images/files on their server..

Your original idea wouldn't need hardly any disk space.

[Excellent2]

Now you're making a network of sites, just like piczo.. not the original plan.

Of course it didn't survive from one box, if you haven't noticed.. they store the images/files on their server..

Your original idea wouldn't need hardly any disk space.Well until that person suggested hosting and sub's it was the original idea, I'm talking about needing a few servers for providing hosting and sub's :P But the original idea of just coding and designing, shared would be fine.

[Source]

Ok let me give you the specs of a single dedicated server I personally own.

edit // took specs out as someone would probably start flaming about it etc.. then it would involve me linking IP's and stats and it would all be nasty. But yea, point it you can power big sites on 1 powerful box for a lowish price.

[Dentafrice]

Well until that person suggested hosting and sub's it was the original idea, I'm talking about needing a few servers for providing hosting and sub's :P But the original idea of just coding and designing, shared would be fine.
You can't code and design well enough to surpass freewebs/piczo.. plus you can't market it right.. so there's no use.

[Excellent2]

You can't code and design well enough to surpass freewebs/piczo.. plus you can't market it right.. so there's no use.Account making is easy, obviously I'd need a lot of help with allowing the user to make their own page, marketing would be hard as I have no experience there, hence why I'm sticking to the original idea.

[Calon]

Good luck with it, but I can't see it becoming as popular as Piczo etc.

[Excellent2]

Good luck with it, but I can't see it becoming as popular as Piczo etc.Oh no no no, going with the original idea how, just design and coding :)

[habtasia]

Lucas..... your forgetting the server we both own :P We can use it all for this website?

[Dentafrice]

Oh he is involved with the project?

Failure already.

[Excellent2]

Oh he is involved with the project?

Failure already.We both co-own a server, lol.

[habtasia]

No, im not invloved, i was reminding him that he could use the server we both own,

And name a project youve done which has been a success?

[Dentafrice]

Name one? TehUpload.

[habtasia]

Not much images hosted?

[Dentafrice]

6,617 is quite a bit for 2 months, with minimal advertising just to a few forums.

Name something you have done that is a success?

[habtasia]

Ahh, well, lets see, HabboLakeHosting (We dont have a website, as we only do hosting for big company's)

[Dentafrice]

Ahh, well, lets see, HabboLakeHosting (We dont have a website, as we only do hosting for big company's)
Laugh.. out.. loud.. you think that's a success?

Why would a big company host with something called HabboLake? A childrens game.. ha.

[Source]

I loled so hard my man boobs nearly gave a black eye. (Slight over-exaggeration... maybe).

So what big companies do you do hosting for? After all they are companies in the public domain so they wouldn't mind you saying.

[habtasia]

Lucas will answer that for you :)

[Dentafrice]

I'm asking you.. since you are the owner..

[habtasia]

But Lucas is as well :)

[Source]

Well tell us this... is it the same box that habbolake is on?

[Hiro]

Good luck with it, but I can't see this working out...
@Habtasia: nice backup, getting someone else to cover for your lies..:rolleyes:

[Meti]

Lucas. I could also help if you want me to :D

[habtasia]

Well tell us this... is it the same box that habbolake is on?


No it isnt

and thanks Hiro ;)

[Fehm]

Im here if you need any help =]

just ask (Y)

And tbh, im sure it'll hit off

[Excellent2]

Okay change of the "charity" kudos to greg for pointing out ;) The website itself will be nothing special, a quick homepage with a banner, information and a little image with a link to the order page. Perhaps a portfolio page to show the designs/coding too.

[Source]

Excellent im still interested in this HabboLakeHosting success that your "business partner" claims. Fancy confirming this with evidence?

[Excellent2]

Excellent im still interested in this HabboLakeHosting success that your "business partner" claims. Fancy confirming this with evidence?He isn't my business partner, we co-own a VPS. On the old server we hosted over 12 websites with being up only just a month or so, not that good but it was okay. Besides this thread isn't about hosting, it's about the idea.

[Source]

Ahh, well, lets see, HabboLakeHosting (We dont have a website, as we only do hosting for big company's)

SO basically he lied through his teeth to win a petty/pity arguement? Ok... sweet, congrats on that.

On another note, I really don't see this working.

[Excellent2]

SO basically he lied through his teeth to win a petty/pity arguement? Ok... sweet, congrats on that.

On another note, I really don't see this working.
Thats to do with you and him, not me lol.

[Source]

Lucas will answer that for you :)

But he brought you into it.

[Excellent2]

But he brought you into it.I didn't ask to be brought into it, so instead of trying to pick an argument why don't you PM habtasia and settle your differences eh?

[Dentafrice]

Because he'll say you will explain it.

[Excellent2]

Because he'll say you will explain it.We had 12 clients on the old server, done?

[Dentafrice]

Were they "big businesses" like he said?

[Excellent2]

Were they "big businesses" like he said?Not that big, I never really too notice lol, was too busy.

[Jackboy]

Dw ....

Anyway, sounds like a gd idea.