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jrh2002
25-09-2008, 07:25 PM
I would like to point out that the debates that should have ended on the 22nd are still running :O Also I hope that when they get closed you have some more to come.

The member debates are running pretty well with some great topics :8 I think you need to get some more controversial topics for the official debates.

mangle
25-09-2008, 07:27 PM
"Women are lame, debate!"
Haha, I think its a good forum just needs a little more care in closing threads etc.
Apart from that yeah its wicked.

The Professor
25-09-2008, 07:30 PM
*Passes buck*

Yeah I think we kinda forced that job onto the CS lot and with Catzsy away it got pushed aside. Rumour has it the CS lot are being kicked into gear now so all things like that should be sorted rather soon :)

Coldplay
25-09-2008, 07:31 PM
Catzy is kinda like **REMOVED**

New CSM Needed really.

Edited by Bomb-Head (Assistant General Manager): Please don't be so insensitive.

jrh2002
25-09-2008, 07:38 PM
I blame them then lol are they like the MI5 ? No idea who they are apart from their leader who seems to have been abducted by aliens.
Lets have some debates that can get a little heated :) I am sure the people making the official ones worry to much about how they could cause arguments and go for the more safe (boring) option.

Slowpoke
25-09-2008, 07:41 PM
Nick- said a while back that there are some in the administrator forum ready to be moved so I don't know what's going on with that. As Alex said, it's the CSs job now but without a manager, there's not much they can do!

The Professor
25-09-2008, 08:20 PM
I blame them then lol are they like the MI5 ? No idea who they are apart from their leader who seems to have been abducted by aliens.
Lets have some debates that can get a little heated :) I am sure the people making the official ones worry to much about how they could cause arguments and go for the more safe (boring) option.

Feel free to fire some suggestions at CS :) Things like abortion usually go down quite well in terms of quality debates. Maybe legalising cannabis and smoking age and all the generic stuff that people can't seem to agree on :P

jrh2002
25-09-2008, 08:34 PM
Feel free to fire some suggestions at CS :) Things like abortion usually go down quite well in terms of quality debates. Maybe legalising cannabis and smoking age and all the generic stuff that people can't seem to agree on :P

Who are the CS team? actually I will check the forum leaders :)

If I get an idea for a good debate I would post it in the members debates im afraid :eusa_danc I would'nt want to wait a week or even longer for it to be posted up because I would probably feel less passionate about the subject by then.

Inseriousity.
25-09-2008, 08:35 PM
I blame them then lol are they like the MI5 ? No idea who they are apart from their leader who seems to have been abducted by aliens.
Lets have some debates that can get a little heated :) I am sure the people making the official ones worry to much about how they could cause arguments and go for the more safe (boring) option.

Here's a debate:

What happened to Catszy? Abducted by aliens? Fed to a killer cow??
Or simply away on personal business (nah, too simple)?

Yeah, luckily though, member debates keep it updated though.

Mr.OSH
25-09-2008, 08:48 PM
Right, firstly apologies that this hasn't be dealt with. Indeed Community Support were planned to take over management of the official debates a while back but due to the manager being away the transition never really took place. I must confess that really I should have kept an eye on debates in the mean time as I (and other administrators) were dealing with them prior to Community Support "take over" of the role of dealing with them.

Community Support is currently being sorted out and really took a hit because of the manager being away. I was recently assigned to helping sort out the department so hopefully I can do that. For anyone who is wondering what community support does basically they are in charge of dealing with things like the debates forum, maintaining a positive forum morale, being a voice and "connection" of the members as well as dealing with support tickets via the support system.

The department was new when the manager had to go away and this caused the department to slump and fail to move forward. It isn't the managers fault this occurred or anyones - it was just one of those things. Due to the manager being away for longer than expected it is only recently we've decided to make a move and get community support back on track.

Suggestions for what you'd like to see from the department are as always appreciated and additionally I'm going to be trying hard to get the department back into shape so we can deal with things like the debates forum quicker.

Again apologies for this and thanks for pointing this out. :)

jrh2002
25-09-2008, 08:54 PM
Maybe if the debate forum is going to be overlooked like it has been for so long (the current 2 debates are the first ones added in ageessss) why not kill the official debates and then rename them as

Showcased Debates

And move selected debates from the members debates over for a time period of say 2 months? you could even offer a small prize for the best post in a showcased debate (of course it would need to be voted for)


Here's a debate:

What happened to Catszy? Abducted by aliens? Fed to a killer cow??
Or simply away on personal business (nah, too simple)?

Yeah, luckily though, member debates keep it updated though.

Lol good debate :o I would love to know where she has gone but would be wrong to speculate especially with some of the strange ideas some on here have. I hope she returns soon though because her input is usually very good.

This is the team for all those as ignorant as me and no knowing.

Catzsy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=17293) Community Support Manager

CHA!NGANG (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=42709) - HxHD Super Staff + Team Leader
- Community Support Staff
- Former Habbo eXpert

Hitman (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=44300) # Community Support Staff
# Forum Moderator

lAscend (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=668) Forum Super Moderator / Community Support Staff / HxHD Staff

Smiddy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=5906) Community Support

Mr.OSH
25-09-2008, 09:34 PM
Maybe if the debate forum is going to be overlooked like it has been for so long (the current 2 debates are the first ones added in ageessss) why not kill the official debates and then rename them as

Showcased Debates

And move selected debates from the members debates over for a time period of say 2 months? you could even offer a small prize for the best post in a showcased debate (of course it would need to be voted for)



Lol good debate :o I would love to know where she has gone but would be wrong to speculate especially with some of the strange ideas some on here have. I hope she returns soon though because her input is usually very good.

This is the team for all those as ignorant as me and no knowing.

Catzsy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=17293) Community Support Manager

CHA!NGANG (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=42709) - HxHD Super Staff + Team Leader
- Community Support Staff
- Former Habbo eXpert

Hitman (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=44300) # Community Support Staff
# Forum Moderator

lAscend (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=668) Forum Super Moderator / Community Support Staff / HxHD Staff

Smiddy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=5906) Community Support

That is a nice idea - I like that. However I think we'll probably try to sort out the Community Support Department and try to post more consistent and better debates. If that doesn't work out that is a nice idea - thanks for the suggestion. :)

GommeInc
25-09-2008, 10:41 PM
Can't the Community Support Staff do it without their Manager? Don't tell me you've got to have the manager to do anything :S It's like the manager of ASDA being away and all the staff on tills sitting there not allowed to work.

Leetzgirl
25-09-2008, 11:07 PM
Can't the Community Support Staff do it without their Manager? Don't tell me you've got to have the manager to do anything :S It's like the manager of ASDA being away and all the staff on tills sitting there not allowed to work.


I laughed about ASDA thing.

They should have an assistant manager as well for things like these

nvrspk4
26-09-2008, 05:33 AM
Can't the Community Support Staff do it without their Manager? Don't tell me you've got to have the manager to do anything :S It's like the manager of ASDA being away and all the staff on tills sitting there not allowed to work.

Considering that MAD was waiting for Catzsy to return to figure out exactly what the role was - its not that easy. We have to define a role as well. Telling the ASDA employees to work under a supervisor while the manager is gone is all good - throwing them into an office and telling them they're in a service business - but not what they do - isn't :D

I've been getting into a lot of metaphorical arguments lately...:S

GommeInc
26-09-2008, 08:47 AM
Catzsy has been away that long, I thought he had only been away a week :S

jrh2002
26-09-2008, 05:46 PM
I dont think that habbox run debates will ever be removed :o the boss wanted them 4 years ago and still must hold a soft spot for them even though as staff run on a whoile they have failed. i think they will stay but it means the people in charge of them make sure they get something that gets ppl posting passionatly.

GommeInc
26-09-2008, 05:50 PM
I dont think that habbox run debates will ever be removed :o the boss wanted them 4 years ago and still must hold a soft spot for them even though as staff run on a whoile they have failed. i think they will stay but it means the people in charge of them make sure they get something that gets ppl posting passionatly.
Indeed, there's so much potential for down there. Perhaps whoever is next in line to Catzsy should have a poke around with all the fellow Community Staff and see what they come up with?

jrh2002
26-09-2008, 05:58 PM
Indeed, there's so much potential for down there. Perhaps whoever is next in line to Catzsy should have a poke around with all the fellow Community Staff and see what they come up with?

True :o but 4 or 5 people wont come up with better ideas than a forum community so it seems a bit of a waste on so many good debates hidden away. from what i have seen on the amount of people posting in the hx official debates they just dont get people going when there is so much potential.

GommeInc
26-09-2008, 06:04 PM
Hmmm, true. When you think about it, the member threads are more interesting and controversial than official ones. Perhaps removing the "Members Debates" forum and merging it with the main one, and any official or "extra interesting" debates could be stickied, so they appear as the first ones on view? Seems easier than seperating two types of debates, and the one that gets all the attention is in a sub-catagory/forum.

jrh2002
26-09-2008, 06:15 PM
Hmmm, true. When you think about it, the member threads are more interesting and controversial than official ones. Perhaps removing the "Members Debates" forum and merging it with the main one, and any official or "extra interesting" debates could be stickied, so they appear as the first ones on view? Seems easier than seperating two types of debates, and the one that gets all the attention is in a sub-catagory/forum.

Perfect :) and Mentor posting some views would be good after all the hard work he put in when fighting for the member debates ;)

Mr.OSH
26-09-2008, 06:24 PM
Can't the Community Support Staff do it without their Manager? Don't tell me you've got to have the manager to do anything :S It's like the manager of ASDA being away and all the staff on tills sitting there not allowed to work.

Well as nvrspk4 explain the department was in its elementary stages when the manager disappeared and we had General Management changes in between which left the department in a state of incompletion but the important thing is that we are aiming to get everything sorted out now. :)


I laughed about ASDA thing.

They should have an assistant manager as well for things like these

Again the department we in its early stages so there wasn't an Assistant hired. Also as the department is small it isn't really appropraite but we'll attempt to forge together more of a heirachy as we develop the department to avoid future issues like this.


I dont think that habbox run debates will ever be removed :o the boss wanted them 4 years ago and still must hold a soft spot for them even though as staff run on a whoile they have failed. i think they will stay but it means the people in charge of them make sure they get something that gets ppl posting passionatly.

Hopefully we can produce more debates regularly and hopefully make them interesting and worthwhile. :) As I said removing Habbox debates could be considered in the future if future attempts of "offical deabates" fail.


Hmmm, true. When you think about it, the member threads are more interesting and controversial than official ones. Perhaps removing the "Members Debates" forum and merging it with the main one, and any official or "extra interesting" debates could be stickied, so they appear as the first ones on view? Seems easier than seperating two types of debates, and the one that gets all the attention is in a sub-catagory/forum.

Hopefully we can sort this out by adding more official debates and more interesting ones. However it is being considered as to whether we should merge the forums in the future if the official debates are not posted in or used. We'll see what happens as we go along and make decisions as appropriate.

jrh2002
26-09-2008, 06:37 PM
Hopefully we can produce more debates regularly and hopefully make them interesting and worthwhile. :) As I said removing Habbox debates could be considered in the future if future attempts of "offical deabates" fail.


It would be nice if you could show some examples of where they have been a success over the last 3+ years (tongue in cheek) :o they have mostly failed since they were started give or take a few no matter who has been in charge of them so I think the community support officers :eusa_danc are being given a dead donkey to try and get working.

Debates should be run like the competitions so as soon as one finishes it is replaced :)

Fingers crossed it all comes good :D

JackBuddy
26-09-2008, 08:47 PM
To be honest I prefer them if they're left open anyway... unless somebody judges who the winner of the debate is.

GommeInc
26-09-2008, 09:18 PM
Perfect :) and Mentor posting some views would be good after all the hard work he put in when fighting for the member debates ;)
Mentor quit, his opinion on Habbox is some what negative :P

I completely forgot about HabMate :S I'm the Debates Expert on there lol! What I do is let people post openly on whatever subject, and there's a thread in there where people can discuss good debates and whether they're too one sided and so on. I can't remember what procedure I had for the end of the debates though. Oh wait! When the debating had stopped for a month, I closed them and put a summary of what was debated, who said what and gave a conclusion. That seemed to of worked :)

Mr.OSH
27-09-2008, 01:03 AM
It would be nice if you could show some examples of where they have been a success over the last 3+ years (tongue in cheek) :o they have mostly failed since they were started give or take a few no matter who has been in charge of them so I think the community support officers :eusa_danc are being given a dead donkey to try and get working.

Debates should be run like the competitions so as soon as one finishes it is replaced :)

Fingers crossed it all comes good :D

If I remember rightly debates were posted in quite a bit in the past until recent debates and they were fairly active when posted. :) As I said though we'll see how it goes and consider our options if things don't work out.

Grig
27-09-2008, 04:12 AM
I should think you could have a forum mod specialising in debates or maybe even a role as 'debates co-ordinator' or something of the likes. I know a lot of people who love to get their teeth in big juicy and at times controversial debates. Tbh, all they need is a bit more vigilance and they'll be on the right track, with constructive topics to really get your teeth into.

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