This bot is annoying.

[Xarea]

If I wanted to read the news on the freakin' site then I would.

Thread moved from Habbo UK News and Rumours by ,Jess, (Forum Super Moderator): This thread is probably best suited here.

[e5]

Noone does, or forgets, or doesn't know. Good it's here. Go away if you don't like it. You don't have to click the threads.

[Samishlol]

If you don't like the bot don't click the threads.

[Hazza]

I agree the bot is annoying and it often repeats threads... Can't it have its own section?

Habbo UK news provided by Habbox Staff or something?
Could be sub-forum in Habbo UK news & rumours.

[brodeo]

I really don't either, maybe there should have been a poll in the news forum for people who like it and who do not. I really hope this is a trial run to test reaction towards it. I think its rather stupid to implement a feature straight away based on few peoples judgement.

[scott]

It really dont bother me, suppose it will get annoying if it starts repeating things :P

[Slowpoke]

Honestly, I don't like it either, it posts news that's already been posted and it's just generally quite annoying - It should have it's own sub-forum.

[Samishlol]

Tbh no one forces you to click on the threads.

[Hazza]

Tbh no one forces you to click on the threads.
and it whens it spams up the rest of the threads, in new posts, yes you do.

[Slowpoke]

Tbh no one forces you to click on the threads.

It doesn't stop it being annoying!

[Favourtism]

I agree a subforum could be better however it already has provided good discussion on some of the threads and makes more people aware of the hard work that News Reporters do to keep everyone informed.

Maybe it could stay on trial for a while and then have a poll or something? Theres nothing majorally wrong with it in my opnion.

[Hazza]

It sort of ruins the idea of us posting news now, because they'll be basically 2 of the same threads on it?

[Favourtism]

It sort of ruins the idea of us posting news now, because they'll be basically 2 of the same threads on it?
Most of the time the news posted is a bit un organised with poor spelling etc which is fine because it's being posted in a rush. Then the habbox reports are written well and can be classed as sort of a conclusion. often there are multiple threads with different infomation about one thing and a report can cover it all?

Obviously, ultimately it's up to the forum management etc but thats my opnion.

Slowpoke: Why are you adding it to your ignore list if you mod that section :p

[Hazza]

Can't we have two separate sub forums?
Habbo UK news provided by Habbox Staff
Habbo UK news and rumours ~ normal members?

I think that'll be the better option.

[Samishlol]

Can't we have two separate sub forums?
Habbo UK news provided by Habbox Staff
Habbo UK news and rumours ~ normal members?

I think that'll be the better option.What would be the point in that

[Mrs.McCall]

When I did research into the readership of news, it was discovered that News didn't get read as people could simply read it on the forums. To remedy this we added an RSS feed to the News forum so our news can be beamed to the readers. Yes there may be other threads on each topics but there may not be on some. If there is a discussion already then simply just post in the original thread.

The bot has produced some good results thus far such as the discussion in the "Habbo to introduce DIY Furni" thread.

[Hiro]

Or...the Habbox News Bot can have it's own section, where no one but the bot can post threads, but users can reply and discuss.
And then there can be a sub forum where users can post rumours.

Everyone's happy!

[Favourtism]

When I did research into the readership of news, it was discovered that News didn't get read as people could simply read it on the forums. To remedy this we added an RSS feed to the News forum so our news can be beamed to the readers. Yes there may be other threads on each topics but there may not be on some. If there is a discussion already then simply just post in the original thread.

The bot has produced some good results thus far such as the discussion in the "Habbo to introduce DIY Furni" thread.
I agree and actually having a subforum wouldnt change what people are complaining about - And that is of the threads coming up on the new posts. Theres loads of threads made and posts including all spam ones so a few threads from news a day won't really hurt?

[Mrs.McCall]

I don't see how the bot infringes on the forum. I mean reporter-generated content it probably more interesting than someone copy and pasting something from Habbo.

What exactly is the issue here? What are the major problems with the bot because as Favourtism says, many people post the same thing anyway!

[GommeInc]

Probably should have it's own section. I wondered what was going on the other day with all these threads, then read "bot." It's Habbox's Official Spambot :D You may aswell close the Habbo News Forums and just have the bot :/

[HBBLB]

I dont think its anoying

[Pyroka]

I disagree with what the news team is defending here. Sure, you want to put the news which your reporters publish onto the forum website so that some people will read it on the site. Thats all fine and fair, but when that RSS feed becomes a spambot of that forum, it takes away the fact that I, and probably many other News Reporters, got a job in the News Team because they posted so much news & so quickly in the forum.

How can you employ people from the forum if your bots doing it for you? That's just one reason of why you should remove it, the other reason is that people will be driven away from the Habbo UK News & Rumours Forum because the fun of posting first for news has gone now, you've destroyed that little game which has made that forum popular for quite some time now. It's like neutralising a culture of people who like to be the first to post.

If you wanna show off your news, put it in a subforum or create a link to the Habbox News Page so that people don't have to look at a forum full of botspam.

[GommeInc]

I disagree with what the news team is defending here. Sure, you want to put the news which your reporters publish onto the forum website so that some people will read it on the site. Thats all fine and fair, but when that RSS feed becomes a spambot of that forum, it takes away the fact that I, and probably many other News Reporters, got a job in the News Team because they posted so much news & so quickly in the forum.

How can you employ people from the forum if your bots doing it for you? That's just one reason of why you should remove it, the other reason is that people will be driven away from the Habbo UK News & Rumours Forum because the fun of posting first for news has gone now, you've destroyed that little game which has made that forum popular for quite some time now. It's like neutralising a culture of people who like to be the first to post.

If you wanna show off your news, put it in a subforum or create a link to the Habbox News Page so that people don't have to look at a forum full of botspam.
:O Incredibly good post and incredibly good points from the fake me :D

It's quite unfair really for new members and old members who like posting news, and it'll be harder to be recognised when on trials.

[Mrs.McCall]

I disagree with what the news team is defending here. Sure, you want to put the news which your reporters publish onto the forum website so that some people will read it on the site. Thats all fine and fair, but when that RSS feed becomes a spambot of that forum, it takes away the fact that I, and probably many other News Reporters, got a job in the News Team because they posted so much news & so quickly in the forum.

How can you employ people from the forum if your bots doing it for you? That's just one reason of why you should remove it, the other reason is that people will be driven away from the Habbo UK News & Rumours Forum because the fun of posting first for news has gone now, you've destroyed that little game which has made that forum popular for quite some time now. It's like neutralising a culture of people who like to be the first to post.

If you wanna show off your news, put it in a subforum or create a link to the Habbox News Page so that people don't have to look at a forum full of botspam.

OK first of all I see where you're coming from but the reports being posted by the bot are ones that the reporters have done themselves. They deserve a bit of recognition.

I employ people on the forum based on their posting abilities in their application. It is extremely rare that someone from the Habbo News forum gets a News trial and infact I don't think this has happened since Adzeh's reign. The fun of posting first news hasn't gone because, admittedly, the reporters don't usually post news first!

Finally, the bot isn't posting spam. The reports are relevent and different to the usual multitude of threads posted in that forum. I seriously don't see the issue here. Would you all be annoyed if the reporters copy and pasted their reports and posted on the forum? It is exactly the same thing as one of the reporters simply opening a thread in the forum except it is done by the Habbox bot via RSS rather than an acutal reporter.

[Pyroka]

OK first of all I see where you're coming from but the reports being posted by the bot are ones that the reporters have done themselves. They deserve a bit of recognition.

I employ people on the forum based on their posting abilities in their application. It is extremely rare that someone from the Habbo News forum gets a News trial and infact I don't think this has happened since Adzeh's reign. The fun of posting first news hasn't gone because, admittedly, the reporters don't usually post news first!

Finally, the bot isn't posting spam. The reports are relevent and different to the usual multitude of threads posted in that forum. I seriously don't see the issue here. Would you all be annoyed if the reporters copy and pasted their reports and posted on the forum? It is exactly the same thing as one of the reporters simply opening a thread in the forum except it is done by the Habbox bot via RSS rather than an acutal reporter.

I also see what you're saying, the news reporters DO deserve some recognition but come on, this is recognition at the expense of a public nuisance in that forum. There was a reason that all the News Managers before you didn't add a RSS Feed, and you're witnessing the results first-hand!

(Must be off, batteries got 1 minute left LOL)

[Favourtism]

You can get trials when applications are open? The vast majority of the time news posted by users are copied and pasted from Habbo and there is sometimes multiple articles with different information on the same subject. A news report from our reporters is well written and entertaining, much more so than a c+p from Habbo, and includes all the information in one thread. It doesn't spam the forum, theres been 4-5 reports today which doesnt flood the forum or anything. It also only displays the short story with a link to the full story to encourage suers to visit the site to read the full report. Think of the post as an introduction or teaser usually.

I think there is confusion regarding the bot. The bot doesn't post news automatically, it posts news reports that have been individually written by our reporters and posted on the Habbox Site.e

[GommeInc]

OK first of all I see where you're coming from but the reports being posted by the bot are ones that the reporters have done themselves. They deserve a bit of recognition.

I employ people on the forum based on their posting abilities in their application. It is extremely rare that someone from the Habbo News forum gets a News trial and infact I don't think this has happened since Adzeh's reign. The fun of posting first news hasn't gone because, admittedly, the reporters don't usually post news first!

Finally, the bot isn't posting spam. The reports are relevent and different to the usual multitude of threads posted in that forum. I seriously don't see the issue here. Would you all be annoyed if the reporters copy and pasted their reports and posted on the forum? It is exactly the same thing as one of the reporters simply opening a thread in the forum except it is done by the Habbox bot via RSS rather than an acutal reporter.
Why can't members just post their news which worked well before with no problems? This is just taking the biscuit really, people were happy with non-reporter news and it opened up interesting discussions. This is just forced discussions and doesn't really give the reporter any recognition, considering the news reporters name isn't on the report :rolleyes: So your argument is flawed, the reporters don't get ANY recognition by the looks of things :/

[Favourtism]

Why can't members just post their news which worked well before with no problems? This is just taking the biscuit really, people were happy with non-reporter news and it opened up interesting discussions. This is just forced discussions and doesn't really give the reporter any recognition, considering the news reporters name isn't on the report :rolleyes: So your argument is flawed, the reporters don't get ANY recognition by the looks of things :/
I would like to see the reporters name on the report and will ask nvr.

It doesn't stop discussions or debates regarding news at all. What do you mean by that? It is still news posted therefore the replies would be the same if not better e.g. The one report posted has opened up a great discussion.

[Mrs.McCall]

Why can't members just post their news which worked well before with no problems? This is just taking the biscuit really, people were happy with non-reporter news and it opened up interesting discussions. This is just forced discussions and doesn't really give the reporter any recognition, considering the news reporters name isn't on the report :rolleyes: So your argument is flawed, the reporters don't get ANY recognition by the looks of things :/

The idea of the RSS feed was so people could see the news and then they'd click 'read more' thus reporters getting recognition. And yes, it doens't give their name but it is nice for them to know their report is being read and since the RSS feed has come into play there has been more comments on reports than ever before. I don't see the issue that the news is by staff. It is like saying that a member of news staff can't post in the Habbo News forum because they're Habbox News staff!

Interesting discussions can still be had and I'll refer again the the DIY Furni report. The RSS Feed doesn't take anything away from the forum if anything it adds a different reporting style rather than copy and pasted reports from Habbo.

[GommeInc]

I would like to see the reporters name on the report and will ask nvr.

It doesn't stop discussions or debates regarding news at all. What do you mean by that? It is still news posted therefore the replies would be the same if not better e.g. The one report posted has opened up a great discussion.
Because the system before hand had no issues. None at all. This new system with a spambot which clearly is causing concerns is no better than the old system where ANYONE can post a news report. You may aswell suggest to nvr that the News Forums are closed and members can only read and reply to threads, and not create any. At least it'll make the forum less of a mess than it is now :/

A pointless change if you ask me, one brought to existence with no real purpose other than to annoy, which seems to be working :/ The discussions won't even improve either, people enjoyed talking in an informal environment.


The idea of the RSS feed was so people could see the news and then they'd click 'read more' thus reporters getting recognition.
Not everyone is going to do that :/ They've read the article and are going to leave it at that. Not everyone is going to be interested in who wrote the article. I eat chicken, I'm not going to research the chicken's name to see what it was when I've enjoyed the meal afterwards.

[Favourtism]

Because the system before hand had no issues. None at all. This new system with a spambot which clearly is causing concerns is no better than the old system where ANYONE can post a news report. You may aswell suggest to nvr that the News Forums are closed and members can only read and reply to threads, and not create any. At least it'll make the forum less of a mess than it is now :/

A pointless change if you ask me, one brought to existence with no real purpose other than to annoy, which seems to be working :/ The discussions won't even improve either, people enjoyed talking in an informal environment.
Anyone still can post a report, Habbox Reporters dont post EVERY single report which you will have seen if you visit the site. Members can still have good discussions in which they are.

I wonder if the bot was called something else people would have less problems with it. It isn't a spam bot. It is like the Habbox Reporters c+ping there report into a thread like most users c+p reports from Habbo for threads.

People who post in the threads seems to enjoy it and can it not still be an informal enviroment?

I think this is getting blown up out of proportion a little bit.

[Mrs.McCall]

Because the system before hand had no issues. None at all. This new system with a spambot which clearly is causing concerns is no better than the old system where ANYONE can post a news report. You may aswell suggest to nvr that the News Forums are closed and members can only read and reply to threads, and not create any. At least it'll make the forum less of a mess than it is now :/

A pointless change if you ask me, one brought to existence with no real purpose other than to annoy, which seems to be working :/ The discussions won't even improve either, people enjoyed talking in an informal environment.

The old system isn't being removed what the bot does is exactly the same as what a non-member can do but it is worded better. I am not going to apologise simply because the reports my reporters place are different to the usual one liners or copy and pasted ones you see. Please don't call it a spambot because it degrades the quality of reports work because they work really hard in ensuring the reports are top standard. Spam would be the bot posting ZOMG NEW FURNI!!11. Members can still create threads, the only time the bot posts anything is when the reporters do so a situation would occur where a fully-fledged discussion was already in place by the time the RSS has kicked in. It just so happens that a couple of times the reporters have gotten in there first.

To say that it was bought in with no purpose is very narrow-minded and a poor comment because you didn't see the discussion that was had before hand. To speak on behalf of the entire forum is kind of big headed because I've recieved a lot of positive feedback about the bot and yes, it has had its fair share of negative feedback but it goes down to personal preference. I have no issue with people regarding it as a nuisance but what I do take task with is people saying it was introduced to annoy and saying that it is spam because it isn't. You make it sound as if there are going to be 7/8 reports a day from the bot. There isn't! And the bot posts allow discussion to be informal... the way the text is worded perhaps isn't as simple as usual but you can still discuss them in the usual manner as the forum rules don't change.

[GommeInc]

Anyone still can post a report, Habbox Reporters dont post EVERY single report which you will have seen if you visit the site. Members can still have good discussions in which they are.

I wonder if the bot was called something else people would have less problems with it. It isn't a spam bot. It is like the Habbox Reporters c+ping there report into a thread like most users c+p reports from Habbo for threads.

People who post in the threads seems to enjoy it and can it not still be an informal enviroment?

I think this is getting blown up out of proportion a little bit.
At least with a reporter c&p'ing their news they'll have their name appear and get full recognition with it. Which brings on the new point, no-one's going to get rep points from good news articles now. It'll all be directed at a glorified spambot (which it appears to be). It's not that some people enjoy it, it's the fact that not everyone is enjoying it. At least the system before everyone enjoyed it and there were no flaws, and the reporters got recognition on the site. Heck, you don't HAVE to go up to a news reporter, pat them on the back and give them a patronising pep talk. Why do they need recognition anyway? Do they sit alone at night crying for it? Seems not. Not all departments get full recoginition and credability, so why input a bot to report news when the previous system was better?


The old system isn't being removed what the bot does is exactly the same as what a non-member can do but it is worded better. I am not going to apologise simply because the reports my reporters place are different to the usual one liners or copy and pasted ones you see. Please don't call it a spambot because it degrades the quality of reports work because they work really hard in ensuring the reports are top standard. Spam would be the bot posting ZOMG NEW FURNI!!11. Members can still create threads, the only time the bot posts anything is when the reporters do so a situation would occur where a fully-fledged discussion was already in place by the time the RSS has kicked in. It just so happens that a couple of times the reporters have gotten in there first.

To say that it was bought in with no purpose is very narrow-minded and a poor comment because you didn't see the discussion that was had before hand. To speak on behalf of the entire forum is kind of big headed because I've recieved a lot of positive feedback about the bot and yes, it has had its fair share of negative feedback but it goes down to personal preference. I have no issue with people regarding it as a nuisance but what I do take task with is people saying it was introduced to annoy and saying that it is spam because it isn't. You make it sound as if there are going to be 7/8 reports a day from the bot. There isn't! And the bot posts allow discussion to be informal... the way the text is worded perhaps isn't as simple as usual but you can still discuss them in the usual manner as the forum rules don't change.
The old system has been removed, it's turned anti-social all of a sudden. It is a spam bot, spambots are there to annoy, no matter how bad or good the quality of the spam it is posting. I have spam in my email, it's written well but it is still spam :/ You know nothing about spam it seems :/ It was brought in with no purpose, it's narrow minded of you to not realise there were no problems with the system before the bot came into practice. You may have positive feedback, BUT there were NO flaws with the system before hand. It worked well, but for some reason the idea that news reporters didn't get recognition is more important than a system which no errors.

[Mrs.McCall]

At least with a reporter c&p'ing their news they'll have their name appear and get full recognition with it. Which brings on the new point, no-one's going to get rep points from good news articles now. It'll all be directed at a glorified spambot (which it appears to be). It's not that some people enjoy it, it's the fact that not everyone is enjoying it. At least the system before everyone enjoyed it and there were no flaws, and the reporters got recognition on the site. Heck, you don't HAVE to go up to a news reporter, pat them on the back and give them a patronising pep talk. Why do they need recognition anyway? Do they sit alone at night crying for it? Seems not. Not all departments get full recoginition and credability, so why input a bot to report news when the previous system was better?

It isn't about recognition for their name and I don't expect everyone to go OH WELL DONE to every reporter but readership of the reports was previously extremely low. Literally 20 views a report. This has now increased on the reports the bot has posted so already it is working.

I have never once said the old system is flawed and there isn't a 'new system' just think of the bot as another member! News is still being posted and discussion still happen. The only difference is, is that the bot gets its own prefix.

Also why do they need recognition? Because they volunteer for this job and it would be nice for them to know people actually read their work.

[Favourtism]

At least with a reporter c&p'ing their news they'll have their name appear and get full recognition with it. Which brings on the new point, no-one's going to get rep points from good news articles now. It'll all be directed at a glorified spambot (which it appears to be). It's not that some people enjoy it, it's the fact that not everyone is enjoying it. At least the system before everyone enjoyed it and there were no flaws, and the reporters got recognition on the site. Heck, you don't HAVE to go up to a news reporter, pat them on the back and give them a patronising pep talk. Why do they need recognition anyway? Do they sit alone at night crying for it? Seems not. Not all departments get full recoginition and credability, so why input a bot to report news when the previous system was better?
I have already said it would be nice to get the reporters name in the post and I will be discussing this with Grey and Nvr later on. However, this doesnt mean that we would like everyone to go AMG I LUV U , WELL DUN FOR POSTING etc.

The point of having it was that not a lot of people checked Habbox for news when they could just check out the forum so we are providing (now) a news service for site regulars and forum regulars. They can both get the great quality reports now and the discussion can still be there.

No, I suspect they don't cry and night because their reports deserve more credability but that doesnt mean they shouldnt have it.

Users can still post reports as per usual, it's just the Habbox Reports are also posted there incase someone doesn't post about it, to recap it as often threads are just c+ped from Habbo and arent that interesting amongst other things.

This isnt a new system and isnt flawed, its the old "system" with a "member" posting reports that have been posted on the site.

[Mrs.McCall]

At least with a reporter c&p'ing their news they'll have their name appear and get full recognition with it. Which brings on the new point, no-one's going to get rep points from good news articles now. It'll all be directed at a glorified spambot (which it appears to be). It's not that some people enjoy it, it's the fact that not everyone is enjoying it. At least the system before everyone enjoyed it and there were no flaws, and the reporters got recognition on the site. Heck, you don't HAVE to go up to a news reporter, pat them on the back and give them a patronising pep talk. Why do they need recognition anyway? Do they sit alone at night crying for it? Seems not. Not all departments get full recoginition and credability, so why input a bot to report news when the previous system was better?


The old system has been removed, it's turned anti-social all of a sudden. It is a spam bot, spambots are there to annoy, no matter how bad or good the quality of the spam it is posting. I have spam in my email, it's written well but it is still spam :/ You know nothing about spam it seems :/ It was brought in with no purpose, it's narrow minded of you to not realise there were no problems with the system before the bot came into practice. You may have positive feedback, BUT there were NO flaws with the system before hand. It worked well, but for some reason the idea that news reporters didn't get recognition is more important than a system which no errors.

OK. This is getting silly now because I keep repeating myself. There is no 'new' system. The bot simply acts as a member posting news. If you want to go ahead and post some news right now go ahead and do it! It doesn't effect the forum at all. If people want to reply to bot posts they can if they want and that doesn't mean they can't reply to member-posted posts. It is exactly the same as myself posting in the forum. No difference. You don't even have to read the bot posts if you don't wish but some people do want to because they haven't heard about the topic yet perhaps.

[GommeInc]

It isn't about recognition for their name and I don't expect everyone to go OH WELL DONE to every reporter but readership of the reports was previously extremely low. Literally 20 views a report. This has now increased on the reports the bot has posted so already it is working.

I have never once said the old system is flawed and there isn't a 'new system' just think of the bot as another member! News is still being posted and discussion still happen. The only difference is, is that the bot gets its own prefix.

Also why do they need recognition? Because they volunteer for this job and it would be nice for them to know people actually read their work.
The point is, it's not a new member. It has no brain and doesn't discuss it's reports with you and you can't associate with it. It's just like a spam bot :P Also, if news reporters want recognition, I dread to think what Habbox's next idea is for giving the Moderation Team recognition, and they do more than News Reporters :S

And there is a new system, or an edited system depending on your preference for saying these things. Simply because multiple threads now have to contend with a bot. That doesn't sound like an un-touched system to me :/ If a reporter posts, it's forced onto the forum and discredits any posts before it based on the same topic.

[Slowpoke]

The point of having it was that not a lot of people checked Habbox for news when they could just check out the forum so we are providing (now) a news service for site regulars and forum regulars. They can both get the great quality reports now and the discussion can still be there.

In that case, surely it would be better for it to have it's own subforum since it's threads will get lost amongst members threads? For the members who dislike it, an option to hide its threads wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Mrs.McCall]

The point is, it's not a new member. It has no brain and doesn't discuss it's reports with you and you can't associate with it. It's just like a spam bot :P Also, if news reporters want recognition, I dread to think what Habbox's next idea is for giving the Moderation Team recognition, and they do more than News Reporters :S

If you look, the news reporter who has posted the report on the site usually discusses in the thread about it. The RSS feed is a shortcut to actually posting ourselves.

Moderation do a lot yes and I wish they did get more recognition but I don't work in moderation, moderation isn't my problem.

[Plank]

Personally, I preferred it without the bots.

[Favourtism]

If you look, the news reporter who has posted the report on the site usually discusses in the thread about it. The RSS feed is a shortcut to actually posting ourselves.

Moderation do a lot yes and I wish they did get more recognition but I don't work in moderation, moderation isn't my problem.
Absolultely agree. It's just the same as the news reporter posting it except quicker and more convenient. The News Reporters, Joey and I will be trying to discuss the news as much as possible within the threads too to ensure good discussion.


Personally, I preferred it without the bots.
Fair enough but honestly, it doesn't make that much of difference for people to go mad complaining about it does it? It's only a few threads a day which you don't have to view.

[Slowpoke]

Fair enough but honestly, it doesn't make that much of difference for people to go mad complaining about it does it? It's only a few threads a day which you don't have to view.

We aren't complaining, we're just giving our feedback.

[Pyroka]

So right, this is what I think SHOULD be done. At the top of the Habbo UK News and Rumours page, I think you should have a toggle box showing the latest article posted on the site, with the author. You'd do this in a notice sort of way, like HabboxForum have a notification saying that you haven't registered etc. etc. etc. but with a toggle on. I'd be happy with that, and I'm sure the News reporters would too. If you want you can chuck in a little button to cycle through the articles like a RSS feed, and it won't intrude on threads but it'll still give the News Team the recognition they do deserve.

I know you're fully against the idea of removing the RSS Feed, and I agree the reporters do need their recognition as they do a flippin' good job. I'd know that because I was once one. Tell me off for saying I was once a News Reporter, but you should value my opinion more, because I know how it is for you guys not getting what you deserve, but I know how much of a pain in the ass this is to the users. Take what I just said and I think you'll have a winning formula.

[Mrs.McCall]

But the complaints are in the minority. You're never going to please everyone.

[GommeInc]

But the complaints are in the minority. You're never going to please everyone.
Then it shouldn't of been implemented. No complaints (as with the old system of no bots, just members socialising) is better than a system with a bot which is proving to cause problems. Why was this not passed onto members, considering it effects them more than the news team?

[Favourtism]

So right, this is what I think SHOULD be done. At the top of the Habbo UK News and Rumours page, I think you should have a toggle box showing the latest article posted on the site, with the author. You'd do this in a notice sort of way, like HabboxForum have a notification saying that you haven't registered etc. etc. etc. but with a toggle on. I'd be happy with that, and I'm sure the News reporters would too. If you want you can chuck in a little button to cycle through the articles like a RSS feed, and it won't intrude on threads but it'll still give the News Team the recognition they do deserve.

I know you're fully against the idea of removing the RSS Feed, and I agree the reporters do need their recognition as they do a flippin' good job. I'd know that because I was once one. Tell me off for saying I was once a News Reporter, but you should value my opinion more, because I know how it is for you guys not getting what you deserve, but I know how much of a pain in the ass this is to the users. Take what I just said and I think you'll have a winning formula.
I value your opinion, as I value all members, however, as Joey said "you're never going to please everyone"

It's just a few threads a day and there isn't one for International News or Non-Habbo News so it's not clogging lots of forums up.

[Pyroka]

But the complaints are in the minority. You're never going to please everyone.

Do a poll asking which one members of that forum would more prefer, and then say that.


I value your opinion, as I value all members, however, as Joey said "you're never going to please everyone"

It's just a few threads a day and there isn't one for International News or Non-Habbo News so it's not clogging lots of forums up.

It's clogging up the most popular forum on HabboxForum, so you're pretty much clogging up the one place that does matter. I'd say that the Feedback Forum is catching up to Habbo UK News & Rumours though.

[Xarea]

You all seem to be writing long-winded replies to eachother, but the reality is:

If we wanted to read Habbox news, we'd read it on Habbox.com.

The UK News and Rumours forum is for others to post - and news reporters usually credit articles from there.

[Mrs.McCall]

Well clearly we have divided opinions, I don't see the issues but you've all put some good arguments forward and some good ideas so when we review the RSS feed (we being news and general management) we'll see what the best solution is.

It could either stay as it is, be removed completely or the ideas for toggle or even sub forum could be implemented. Decision isn't up to me :)

[brodeo]

When I did research into the readership of news, it was discovered that News didn't get read as people could simply read it on the forums. To remedy this we added an RSS feed to the News forum so our news can be beamed to the readers. Yes there may be other threads on each topics but there may not be on some. If there is a discussion already then simply just post in the original thread.

The bot has produced some good results thus far such as the discussion in the "Habbo to introduce DIY Furni" thread.

If the news wasn't being read as people could read it on the forums, surely more things should be done on the site rather than just moving the reports onto the forum. I don't post as often as I used to, but one forum i always regularly viewed was News and Rumours. I liked the critique of the users and that includes the odd spelling mistake and grammatical error. If you are going to move reports from the site into the forum surely you should stop normal users creating new threads in there because the reporters should have it all covered.

As for the 'good results' such as the discussion about DIY furni, surely if this thread was posted by a normal member the discussion would still take place? You cannot say that simply because a news reporter posted it more discussion is generated. I could find you evidence of pages of discussions that happened before this change was implemented.


But the complaints are in the minority. You're never going to please everyone.

I think the system gets trialed for 7 days and then we have a poll. You cannot assume complaints are in the minority. If a public poll shows users prefer the habbox news reports being put in there i will gladly accept it. At present the only huge supporters are news-related staff.

[Callum.]

what is everyone talking about. i see no bots

[Mr.OSH]

You all seem to be writing long-winded replies to eachother, but the reality is:

If we wanted to read Habbox news, we'd read it on Habbox.com.

The UK News and Rumors forum is for others to post - and news reporters usually credit articles from there.

Firstly just so I can state my opinion - I don't think that it is really a pain. It seems to be fine to me and isn't really "spamming" at all. If you don't wish to read the news threads posted by the bot then don't - it is as simple as that. :) I don't understand why it would cause that much of an issue or an inconvenience or exactly why it would need its own sub forum.

In reply to your point Olleh the idea is that some people who like to use the UK news and rumors forum may not know about the news we provide on the site. Additionally people often find it more convieneint to get news from the UK news and rumours forum. The bot means that people can easily read what news our news reporters are posting without having to visit the site if they do now want to. I don't see what the big deal is about it. As has been said - if you don't like the threads then just ignore them.

Currently it looks like a good featuer to be added. If of course a lot of people dislike it we could consider moving it into a subforum or looking at alternative measures but really it seems the complains in minorities of users and I don't see any reason why those users cannot ignore the bot. It doesn't seem to have been spamming the section to me?

[nvrspk4]

Noted :) Honestly I think the more redeeming part is things that get exclusively scouted out by the news team, like DIY Furni. However the articles themselves can be summaries. Admittedly, it is a bit confusing when there are already threads about the news event :P

Although in all honesty, two or three reports a day won't really kill you.


I disagree with what the news team is defending here. Sure, you want to put the news which your reporters publish onto the forum website so that some people will read it on the site. Thats all fine and fair, but when that RSS feed becomes a spambot of that forum, it takes away the fact that I, and probably many other News Reporters, got a job in the News Team because they posted so much news & so quickly in the forum.

How can you employ people from the forum if your bots doing it for you? That's just one reason of why you should remove it, the other reason is that people will be driven away from the Habbo UK News & Rumours Forum because the fun of posting first for news has gone now, you've destroyed that little game which has made that forum popular for quite some time now. It's like neutralising a culture of people who like to be the first to post.

If you wanna show off your news, put it in a subforum or create a link to the Habbox News Page so that people don't have to look at a forum full of botspam.

Whoa, there is something going on up there!!! :P

[le harry]

Put a header at the top of the page telling people to view Habbox.com for official news or something lol... i don't see why this bot was implemented anyway, it's not as if the forum had anything wrong with it.

[HotelUser]

Seeing as the section is called Habbo News and rumors I think the bot is a good idea.

[MissAlice]

Put a header at the top of the page telling people to view Habbox.com for official news or something lol... i don't see why this bot was implemented anyway, it's not as if the forum had anything wrong with it.

That's an excellent idea, I'm either blind or never noticed a link to the main site! I shall assume I'm blind because it's never stood out to me.

[Mr.OSH]

That's an excellent idea, I'm either blind or never noticed a link to the main site! I shall assume I'm blind because it's never stood out to me.

I agree with that yes. Not sure why that was never thought of. I see no reason to get rid of the bot but adding a link is a good idea. :D

[MissAlice]

I agree with that yes. Not sure why that was never thought of. I see no reason to get rid of the bot but adding a link is a good idea. :D

Actually I found one tiny link, bottom right of forum ;) Hardly visible even to someone like myself who has visited the forum for years. The fact that the site links to forum and to the radio quite easily, surely the reverse should be apparent here. A good link at the top or even the bottom which is clearly visible on the forum highlighting news and rare values would certainly increase the number of views, and then maybe it wouldn't of been necessary to have a bot :P so I will have to disagree with you on the bot. Links from the forum to the site should of been tried first ;)

[Monopoly]

Tbh, I've only seen it once and it didn't bother me in the slightest.

[H0BJ0B]

Just took a look now - it is, literally, spamming the place with news. I think part of the fun for people posting there and for me a while ago was to be the first to post it, then after that the first to reply, and stuff. Now that there's just the news there, people could easily read that off of Hx or Habbo itself.

A nice thing though as you said is that it digs up things like the DIY furni - maybe the RSS feeds should be monitored by senior news staff members and only approved to be posted if they're not daily news. I don't know if that's possible but hey. But yeh, if HxF is giving RSS feeds and the public's threads, I don't see the point of the news department. Leaving it as just forum users and the news department would be the best option in my opinion.

[e5]

Noted :) Honestly I think the more redeeming part is things that get exclusively scouted out by the news team, like DIY Furni. However the articles themselves can be summaries. Admittedly, it is a bit confusing when there are already threads about the news event :P

Although in all honesty, two or three reports a day won't really kill you.



Whoa, there is something going on up there!!! :P
The news is always posted well after it's published on the site anyway :P. News reporter's threads should be closed for it already being post ;).