The pointless locking of threads

[Decode]

Over the past few days I have noticed that management have been un-sticking and locking decent threads. I think its fair enough that you are un-sticking some of them, but some of them are good thread. Then you go and lock them. I can't see any valid reason why these threads needed to be locked, people were still using them, there was no arguments, there was no trolling and there was no mod edit on the thread about why it had been locked.

So basicly there is no good reason why they had to be locked. Below I have some of the examples of these threads, I have only listed a few because I can't be bothered to find the rest.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=308678 - What is your to played __ this week
- http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=524362 - What is your to played __ this week (recreated)
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=301452 - The Funny Pictures Thread
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=164198 - Rate that band
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=428981 - Last song you downloaded/bought
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=162883 - Favourite Artist/Band ever

Thanks.

[Slowpoke]

There has been an announcement and many feedback/complaint threads on this all ready. All threads of this kind have been closed due to spamming and, if you would like to see a certain one re-opened, you need to PM either nvrspk4 or Professor-Alex with a good case with reasons why you think the thread should be re-opened (some are currently being considered for re-opening). Not all of the threads were being spammed but it was much easier to close them all at once and let members put forward reasons why some of them should be re-opened.

[Decode]

There has been an announcement and many feedback/complaint threads on this all ready. All threads of this kind have been closed due to spamming and, if you would like to see a certain one re-opened, you need to PM either nvrspk4 or Professor-Alex with a good case with reasons why you think the action should be re-opened (some are currently being considered for re-opening).
I see what you mean, but they shouldn't have been closed in the first place. They are not breaking any rules.

[The Professor]

For the record, the original announcement was http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=5145830&postcount=5

[Slowpoke]

Read my edit - Whilst it can be sympathised that not all of them were being abused by pointless posters, it was much easier to close them all at once. Like I said, if you'd like to see some of them re-opened, you'll need to PM nvrspk4 or Professor-Alex with reasons. :)

[Decode]

For the record, the original announcement was http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=5145830&postcount=5
You are closing the threads for pointless posting, but there is absolutely no pointless posting on some of them.


Read my edit - Whilst it can be sympathised that not all of them were being abused by pointless posters, it was much easier to close them all at once. Like I said, if you'd like to see some of them re-opened, you'll need to PM nvrspk4 or Professor-Alex with reasons. :)
It would have been easier to look at the 10-15 stickyed threads that have been removed and make a decision that way, rather than closing them all with out looking at them.

[Slowpoke]

It would have been easier to look at the 10-15 stickyed threads that have been removed and make a decision that way, rather than closing them all with out looking at them.

There were way more than fifteen but I know, and I personally agree, but that's the way management decided to do it.

[Axel]

They were closed and not what are you listening to?

[Slowpoke]

They were closed and not what are you listening to?

From the announcement -


The What are you Listening To thread is the ONE exception we are making, because we feel that this one thread does have a significant purpose in that you can get popular songs from other people before you and often some interaction does go on. However, it will now be closely moderated, and posts that aren't songs (ie theme tunes, listening to the rain patter on my windowsill) will be considered pointless. The "What are you listening to" thread will also serve as a test ground, we will see if watching it more closely works and in the future we may allow other similar threads if they foster a discussion between parties. However for the moment, all threads to do with "What are you _____" will be closed under the pointless posting rule.

[mat64]

I disagree with some of the threads that have been closed. Some of them were genuinely useful to me although I understand some of the threads, especially those in the music forum were used pretty much as a free post count thread I don't see how it can be justified to close some of the other threads and yet we have the forum games section open and running; surely that's exactly the same case more or less?

I remember MAD saying that it's only your post count and it doesn't matter. What matters is the quality of your posts, not the quantity. I can't really see why the management can justify this based on the comment MAD made, unless they think the opposite to what he thought when he was a GM. Unless of course I have completely missed the point in them taking this action.

[Axel]

Nah, if they did close it people would moan.

[JackBuddy]

If you wanna crack down on spam and pointless posts then why don't you take away post counts from forum games. The only reason some losers go there is to get an extra 50 posts or so a day.

[Recursion]

IMO, they contributed the most to the community. In the setup thread we would have loads of discussions about different setups etc...

[Foals]

The Achievements/Challenges thread shouldn't have been closed.

[today]

Post your hairstyle thread, shouldnt be locked, it can help new people choose hairstyles.

UNLOCK IT

[GommeInc]

From the announcement -
That announcement was a bit pants really. The "what you last downloaded" thread fits under the same reason. I've downloaded some songs when they'e been mentioned before :/

I think there was one in the console games forum closed aswell, based around games you own and games you've recently bought. The last few posts in one of them were 2 members discussing a game :/ They seem to of been closed with no thought in mind, and suggesting they're re-opened means they're wasting their own time again :/

The setup thread was also quite interesting too. These "what are you doing" threads weren't even that bad to begin with, you would think the way they handled this situation that it was a cancer upon the forum :P

[Nereo]

In fairness to management they are trying to improve the forum by trying out different stuff like this, however when they see threads like this which make it quite plain that people disagree with the changes they should reverse the decision and in this case re-open threads :)

[Slowpoke]

It wasn't to see whether members disagreed or not, Nereo. It was plain and simply because a lot of threads were being abused by people spamming.

[Nereo]

It wasn't to see whether members disagreed or not, Nereo. It was plain and simply because a lot of threads were being abused by people spamming.


I know it wasnt to see whether members agree but what i'm saying is if you have a large amount of members agreeing one thing then management shouldn't ignore what the people are saying and do someone else. Plus as a few other people argued, some of those threads didnt have a lot of pointless posting but were closed anyway.

[GommeInc]

It wasn't to see whether members disagreed or not, Nereo. It was plain and simply because a lot of threads were being abused by people spamming.
Surely you agree that they just wasted their time with this whole situation? If threads were being spammed in, target the threads that were actually being spammed in, not threads that were seemingly harmless e.g. Console Games, Technology etc.

[Foals]

The 'What was your top played...' thread was hardly spammed, people posted once a week max as that's when the Last.FM stats are updated. So that shouldn't have been closed really. Re-open it please.

[awelsh]

What I find stupidest about this rule is:

They say they didnt contribute to the community, however in the "Post your setup" threads in both console gaming and the technology section there were always people wanting to know where to get certain items that another member had. Also the dumbest thing ever, the "Post what your listening to" thread stays open, so im guessing that contributes a hell of a lot does it? and of course its not spam so i guess ill post what im listening to every 15mins so im out of the edit limit :)

[Heart Break Kid]

yes most of them should
like the RS ones which were repeatedly spammed
by at least the same 4 people

[Coldplay]

They should all be deleted, so all the people who spammed them and are complaining, have something to REALLY complain about :)

[awelsh]

They should all be deleted, so all the people who spammed them and are complaining, have something to REALLY complain about :)

Not really, if the moderation team actually moderated the spammers and issued warnings and/or bans to the certain spammers instead of simply closing the threads it would have been fine.

What I find VERY STUPID is the fact the post what your listening to is the only one to stay open, becuase posting a song isnt classed as spam but posting lets use an example like: "Post your games" they are practically the same, people may want to know what new games are out? names of certain games maybe?

Plain dumb decision by management of this forum as usuall in the past year or two.

[lolwut]

Sent this as a PM to Professor-Alex, but here you go:
I know some of the threads which got locked where pointless... I agree with that, but the "Post Your Setup" thread did contribute to the community and did foster a community. If you look in the thread, you will see that lots of discussion does actually occur. In the majority of cases, we quote eachothers set-up and query them on it. We also generally discussed reccomended computer parts and so on. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the definition of a discussion?
I'm sorry to have to send you this, you've probably been getting a lot. If you have, surely this shows you that we enjoyed that thread and it was actually, contributive.

[Coldplay]

Not really, if the moderation team actually moderated the spammers and issued warnings and/or bans to the certain spammers instead of simply closing the threads it would have been fine.

What I find VERY STUPID is the fact the post what your listening to is the only one to stay open, becuase posting a song isnt classed as spam but posting lets use an example like: "Post your games" they are practically the same, people may want to know what new games are out? names of certain games maybe?

Plain dumb decision by management of this forum as usuall in the past year or two.

You said it, Not me...

:eusa_whis

[You]

re-open this one: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=358802&page=5

[awelsh]

You said it, Not me...

:eusa_whis

And it is a true fact.

Just re-open them all and stop everyone moaning at you for a stupid decision

[lolwut]

Does anyone know what's actually happening because the general community is being kept in the dark about this...

[Minstrels]

Does anyone know what's actually happening because the general community is being kept in the dark about this...
Nothing new their then.

[lolwut]

I'm sorry but this is getting ridiculous.
Can they just be re opened for god sake. You stupid people.
They weren't bloody spam. Jesus.
If you took a bloody look in the Post Your Setup thread you'd see what I mean.
Unless, of course, you can't see it because some ******ed admin deleted it altogether.

[Hiro]

I'm sorry but this is getting ridiculous.
Can they just be re opened for god sake. You stupid people.
They weren't bloody spam. Jesus.
If you took a bloody look in the Post Your Setup thread you'd see what I mean.
Unless, of course, you can't see it because some ******ed admin deleted it altogether.

In the gaming section, Post Your Setup caused a lot of arguments between a majority of users.

[lolwut]

In the gaming section, Post Your Setup caused a lot of arguments between a majority of users.
I can't speak for that case admittedly but the Post Your Setup in the Technology Discussion section (post pics/spec of your PC etc) that was rarely, if ever, the case.
Which explains my outrage. :rolleyes:

[Dentafrice]

They say we were posting pointlessly in the "Post your Setup" thread, by discussing our setups..?

But yet they can post "Poison - Alice Cooper" and that is considered a constructive post..

[Neversoft]

I can see why most were closed, but I can't see why 'what was the last movie you watched' was closed if 'what are you listening to' remains!

[GommeInc]

I agree with whoever said they're dealing with this situation the same way a school does, by punishing everyone when only a select few ruined it. None of them should of been closed without due care and consideration. Nearly all of the threads had a point to them, only a few actually were used for spamming reasons. They've wasted time and effort with closing all of them, especially when they're deciding whether or not to open them again. What a waste of time :/

It would appear no thought went into this when the pros clearly outweigh the cons.

Cons =
Pointless posting

Pros =
Gives people ideas to download, buy, re-create, watch, listen to and so on, whatever the nature of the subject is.
Creates interesting, meaningful discussions with a point.
Opens up a gateway to seeing what a member's environment, personality, likes and dislikes are.
Creates a care free environment.

Does no-one else see the problems here?

[alexxxxx]

I can see why most were closed, but I can't see why 'what was the last movie you watched' was closed if 'what are you listening to' remains!

agreed.

[awelsh]

In the gaming section, Post Your Setup caused a lot of arguments between a majority of users.

That was becuase some idiot was posting about his setup with no actual pictures, and then decided to **** off pretty much most of the members of this forum by insulting "the brits"

Point is, you must know by now people have had enough of your stupid decisions on here, your only making the forum in a worst state than it already is. You lot will finally see the errors in your ways when the decent members of this forum that make it the community it is stop taking all this crap from you and just leave, then all you have left are new members who are about 10 and spell stuff like "omgz, i is goiiin here"

That will bring the community together nicely wont it ;)