Why can't the rest of the world be like Japan?

[---MAD---]

I would really love to be able to run a speed test and have results like the following:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/333982408.png

Honestly - when will the rest of the world catch up?

[N!ck]

The Scansdanavian countries also have a fairly easy access tp this sort of bandwidth and some pats of Canada too. You could get this pretty much anywhere if you had the $$$.

The person who did the speedtest may have direct access to the servers and networks as a ping of 4ms is a bit good lol.

In theory with current technology it's possible to do that down a UK phone line anyway :P.

[brandon]

Wow, just wow.

[---MAD---]

The Scansdanavian countries also have a fairly easy access tp this sort of bandwidth and some pats of Canada too. You could get this pretty much anywhere if you had the $$$.

The person who did the speedtest may have direct access to the servers and networks as a ping of 4ms is a bit good lol.
That's the thing. In Japan, that's pretty much standard ;).

[Recursion]

Moving to Japan when im older anways, everything over there is better!

[Jordy]

Japan is a very small and over-populated country and is one of the most 'Stable' countries in the world, and technological advanced, it must of been so easy for them :P

The UK has the potential to do this but we have one of the world's oldest internet infrastructures. Even if you had the money, you'd struggle to get a speed like that.

[N!ck]

Moving to Japan when im older anways, everything over there is better!

Nah mate, get yourself to Sweden.

[Recursion]

Nar, I'd settle for 88mb internet connections :P

Japan is unique in every way, love it over there.

[N!ck]

Nar, I'd settle for 88mb internet connections :P

Japan is unique in every way, love it over there.

Sweden has the girls though. I'm not really into Japanese birds. Also, the law is more relaxed in Sweden compared to here and especially Japan.

[---MAD---]

Japan is a very small and over-populated country and is one of the most 'Stable' countries in the world, and technological advanced, it must of been so easy for them :P

The UK has the potential to do this but we have one of the world's oldest internet infrastructures. Even if you had the money, you'd struggle to get a speed like that.
I doubt even the government gets speed like that in the UK.

All the tax people pay in the UK should do something useful that everyone will appreciate for decades to come :P.

[Recursion]

Ahh good point,

And yes that speedtest is correct:

This service connects subscribers of NTT East/NTT West to their Internet service providers via a high-speed optical fiber network at speeds of up to 100 Mbps/1 Gbps.

http://regist.spinnet.jp/cgi-bin/ad2/ad.cgi?base=odn_e&lang=en&pn=2#broadband

Spinnet is part of Softbank Telecom.

[ideabox]

You want to move to Japan because of the faster internet connection?

[Neversoft]

Honestly - when will the rest of the world catch up?

Catch up? Japan hasn't even invented the chair yet.

[Recursion]

You want to move to Japan because of the faster internet connection?

No.....

[e5]

You just need to pay more for that speed lol

[Tintinnabulate]

I wish we had that here in the UK :(

[xxMATTGxx]

Haha, lucky people over there. Wish we could get faster speeds but our ISPs will probably charge us a bomb.

[N!ck]

I doubt even the government gets speed like that in the UK.

All the tax people pay in the UK should do something useful that everyone will appreciate for decades to come :P.

Lol of course they do. A fair amount of institutes will have 100Mbps like small-mid sized universities and large companies. Large universities will have 1Gbps type access and large web based companies. Large data centres will have several 10Gbps connections, 2.5Gbps conections, many 1Gbps connections and maybe one or two 40Gbps connections.

[Joe!]

We have 100mbps at college, mind you, we share a link with university next to us. The exchange is also across the road(not sure if that makes a difference with fibre optic).

[J0SH]

It's because Japan are like 10 years ahead technology wise. :P

[Calon]

No need to move to Japan for internet speeds..

The grid will own.

[N!ck]

No need to move to Japan for internet speeds..

The grid will own.

The Grid is a high speed carrier net work based in Geneva designed for carrying large amounts of data around quickly for processing and storage else where. Unless you're directly connected in, you won't see much benefit.

[Shawnstra]

Japan is a miracle. The technology there is like tops. They have the fastest everything, the quirkiest everything, amazing food that not only tastes great but are able to let them have such a long life expectancy. It'll be easier for me to move (nearer) :P Their technology is like things that you have always wished for. If only those products ship worldwide. :(

[Slowpoke]

Holy **** that's fantastic - After seeing that, I feel like I'm being robbed for my internet to be honest!

[Hypertext]

I doubt even the government gets speed like that in the UK.

All the tax people pay in the UK should do something useful that everyone will appreciate for decades to come :P.

Speed is as fast as you want it to be, the bottleneck is when there is a mixture of old and new technology, something may be going VERY fast, but something else will bring it to a halt.

Sweden have very good speeds too.

I beg to differ on one post below the OP -- I live in Evanston, IL, a very suburban city near Chicago, and I STILL can't get fibre optic. I can get it in a few weeks though. Downtown city's get very good speeds though, even then, my first thing applies.

The reason Japan's speeds are so fast, is that 95% of their technology is state of the art, as they are such a small country, they upgrade as soon as the new stuff comes out - therefore they will always be ahead of us when it comes to speed.

That is where 'the grid' comes in. The grid is a new "internet", basically it's an internet, yes internet is a vowel, contrarily to how people prepend the word with "the", an internet where only new technology is used, making it hundreds of times faster than the current internet, of course in time it'll become the old internet, then we'll need Grid 2.0. But by then, I'm hoping that the human race will be spanning several galaxies, and then we will have the internet fully integrated into our lives, making navigating it a lot easier, using some sort of super technology, technology can only get so fast that we can recognize a difference.

Sorry for the verbosity.
Edit: Just saw some posts above about The Grid. They are valid, but if The Grid is implemented properly, and replaces current technology, everyone would benefit, of course, the problem is, unless it is owned by Government/UN/A sole private sector, not everyone will update at once, giving us exactly the same problems of the current internet.

Gosh. We speak about "the" internet as though it was yesterday's news.

[VistaBoy]

I can not see AU getting speeds like that in a million years and if we did the ISP will have a price tag that millions are 0 at the end...

[Kowther]

Wow, that is really fast.

Well, each country is processing slowly...

[newWORLDorder]

Did you get that speedtest from Major Nelsons twitter? :P

I noticed that when I checked twitter last night, was like...

:o

Anyway, 10mb is doing us fine at the moment, im not complaining. (Virgin)

[Zak]

Man .. that's huge......

[bigdavecox90]

Wasn't the worlds quickest connection first found by like an old lady in Sweden!!?

[Hypertext]

Wasn't the worlds quickest connection first found by like an old lady in Sweden!!?

Indeed. He did it to show that any internet speed is possible.

[Recursion]

No, a guy had a direct link or something setup for his grandma.

[N!ck]

Speed is as fast as you want it to be, the bottleneck is when there is a mixture of old and new technology, something may be going VERY fast, but something else will bring it to a halt.

Sweden have very good speeds too.

I beg to differ on one post below the OP -- I live in Evanston, IL, a very suburban city near Chicago, and I STILL can't get fibre optic. I can get it in a few weeks though. Downtown city's get very good speeds though, even then, my first thing applies.

The reason Japan's speeds are so fast, is that 95% of their technology is state of the art, as they are such a small country, they upgrade as soon as the new stuff comes out - therefore they will always be ahead of us when it comes to speed.

That is where 'the grid' comes in. The grid is a new "internet", basically it's an internet, yes internet is a vowel, contrarily to how people prepend the word with "the", an internet where only new technology is used, making it hundreds of times faster than the current internet, of course in time it'll become the old internet, then we'll need Grid 2.0. But by then, I'm hoping that the human race will be spanning several galaxies, and then we will have the internet fully integrated into our lives, making navigating it a lot easier, using some sort of super technology, technology can only get so fast that we can recognize a difference.

Sorry for the verbosity.
Edit: Just saw some posts above about The Grid. They are valid, but if The Grid is implemented properly, and replaces current technology, everyone would benefit, of course, the problem is, unless it is owned by Government/UN/A sole private sector, not everyone will update at once, giving us exactly the same problems of the current internet.

Gosh. We speak about "the" internet as though it was yesterday's news.

Note, i said some parts of Canada ;). The grid can't be implemented. It's just basically a load of high speed OC carriers linked together. The same as what exists already for the Internet but with the latest carriers. All parts of the Internet are slowly upgraded to faster carriers as new ones are released and older ones get cheaper to implement anyway.


Wasn't the worlds quickest connection first found by like an old lady in Sweden!!?

Yeah, some one at Cisco installed the latest carrier they'd developed in is mother's (or grandmother? can't remember) house.

[Axel]

That's like a movie in 10 seconds.. I think?

[N!ck]

That's like a movie in 10 seconds.. I think?

80 seconds ;).

[DaveTaylor]

80 seconds ;).

depends on the size ;)

[N!ck]

depends on the size ;)

Standard 700MB rip :P.

[Jordy]

80 seconds ;).I guess but this would also depend on the server speeds at the other end too wouldn't it (Torrents would still be useless :P). I imagine a movie store like iTunes would have quick server's but most places won't have the speed to upload as fast as that download surely?

The grid would be useless for most home users anyway, if you check your ethernet ports etc you'll only be able to cope with about 300MBPS atm. Laptops generally manage about 120MBPS max. Obviously this'll change in the future, but the majority of home users couldn't make much use of the grid.

The idea of the grid is that everything has to run perfectly for it to be VERY quick.

[N!ck]

I guess but this would also depend on the server speeds at the other end too wouldn't it (Torrents would still be useless :P).

I reckon a BitTorrent source would be one of the best ways to do it actually, providing the swarm wasn't a bunch of leeching *******s. Webservers usually cap the maximum speed they can upload at per connection so that one peer can't choke them.


I imagine a movie store like iTunes would have quick server's but most places won't have the speed to upload as fast as that download surely?

Quick connection but many users = divided bandwidth.


The grid would be useless for most home users anyway, if you check your ethernet ports etc you'll only be able to cope with about 300MBPS atm. Laptops generally manage about 120MBPS max. Obviously this'll change in the future, but the majority of home users couldn't make much use of the grid.

The idea of the grid is that everything has to run perfectly for it to be VERY quick.

You mean Mbps? And the max sustained read/write bandwidth on a standard hard drive is only like 50-60MB/s anyway :P.

[Axel]

I guess but this would also depend on the server speeds at the other end too wouldn't it (Torrents would still be useless :P). I imagine a movie store like iTunes would have quick server's but most places won't have the speed to upload as fast as that download surely?


True true... but still pretty fast.. a minute or two.

[Earthquake]

Why isn't higher speed levels increased any way? we all know its really rubbish at the moment, so whats stopping them going up a level?

[DrLacero]

Why isn't higher speed levels increased any way? we all know its really rubbish at the moment, so whats stopping them going up a level?

They'd have to dig up the backbone and install a higher bandwidth line. Also, shoo.

[iJoe]

I doubt even the government gets speed like that in the UK.

All the tax people pay in the UK should do something useful that everyone will appreciate for decades to come :P.

We're all getting fiber glass cables though by 20?? from BT, they're trying to catch upto Virgin

[Recursion]

Thats in 12 years... fibre will be long outdated by then.

[lolwut]

Is it Japan or China which has a firewall protecting everyones computers from pretty much everything?

[H0BJ0B]

Lol. 22 times my download speed!

[DrLacero]

Thats in 12 years... fibre will be long outdated by then.

Unless they work out how to transfer data faster than the speed of light, I doubt it :P

[Kyle!]

Is it Japan or China which has a firewall protecting everyones computers from pretty much everything?

I think you have a wrong idea of their "firewall" basically its to stop the users in Japan and China accessing porn, stuff that says bad about Japan and China, basically internet censorship. Its to protect China's values not the end user.

[Casual]

I'd rather be like i am atm.. what's wrong with England? Its only a download speed? Not the end of the world..

[Recursion]

Is it Japan or China which has a firewall protecting everyones computers from pretty much everything?

China.


I'd rather be like i am atm.. what's wrong with England? Its only a download speed? Not the end of the world..

We crave for faster internet, just think, on demand HD video streamed straight to your PC in under a second.

[Excellent2]

I'm happy with my speeds at the moment..

[Holofoil]

One of the reasons we're way behind those countries is because of what's been happening to our economy. Our technology budget is way smaller than countries like Japan, US and China