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newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 06:35 PM
This thread -

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=536990

Has been moved to spam, it belongs in gaming and was stickyd bad ---MAD---.


Can you explain why it has been moved as im sure it belongs in Gaming over Spam.

If it is about post counts, there is no point in moving because once you have posted once, you dont need to post again (as the images update, or unless you have more than one gamertag).

Heart Break Kid
20-11-2008, 06:37 PM
it has been moved to spam as it is a post your thread

as of that reason it was moved there so post counts dont increase ;)
i.e spammers/trolls loose out on their precious post count xP

GommeInc
20-11-2008, 06:37 PM
It does seem the sort of thing to have in the Microsoft forums in the console games section. It's not really spam unless people starting posting without their avatars, and because they can't and the images are updated automatically, it reduces any idea of spamming :S

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 06:38 PM
I made it clear that there will not be LOADS of spam (what your listening to thread >.>), because you only need to post once.

If there has been discussion, it has been kept on topic and to a minimum. :l

Pretty silly decision.

Edit - Seems it has been moved so a staff can have his own thread :l lol

Ajthedragon
20-11-2008, 07:12 PM
I do agree it sshouldn't of been moved, but to be stickied, I dunno.

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 07:13 PM
---MAD--- stickyd it, so it was stupid Alex removed it.

Ajthedragon
20-11-2008, 07:20 PM
Alex is the forum manager though, he has the right.

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 07:20 PM
But like, he saw a staff member had stickied it and it had a valid reason, it belonged there. Bit stupid being in the spam forum imo.

lAscend
20-11-2008, 07:30 PM
It has been discussed with the higher people as well.

J0SH
20-11-2008, 07:31 PM
it has been moved to spam as it is a post your thread

as of that reason it was moved there so post counts dont increase ;)
i.e spammers/trolls loose out on their precious post count xP

But Alex made a post your gamertag thread, that requires only one post as does the post your avatar one as the image updates. :P

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 07:32 PM
I personally thought it would make more sense as in the Avvy thread we can discuss the whole thing about avatars. If not, whatever.

Hiro
20-11-2008, 07:56 PM
The thread has been moved and the "post your gamertag" has changed to both gamertag and avatar.

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 09:15 PM
True, But I feel that Avatars can create discussions and stuff, where as you just post your tag and your done.

Although im a regular poster there, all this annoying Post Your thread madness comes from the Tech forum. Threads such as :-

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=533736

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=535174

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=534020

Why have these not been closed, but mine has? I find it a bit unfair that Mad stickied it and it may have just been a moment of Fanboy Glory (ref: his mod message). There are many, many more. Its just a bit annoying that a thread that could create good discussions and laughs gets removed, where as a thread to brag about gigawatzzz! gets kept in the Tech forum.

Also, im sure you all know how quick threads bury in the Spam forum, you could at least move it back to the Gaming forum? Bit silly.

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 09:21 PM
EDIT -- I thought Knowed had posted in between my post, very sorry. Please delete.

Mint
20-11-2008, 09:39 PM
Threads made for spamming e.g forum games need to start being moved to the spam section either way you look at it. Or if we could get the message around the whole forum that having a bigger post count doesn't make you any better then that might solve it.

Callum.
20-11-2008, 09:41 PM
Not sure if mad realised them threads were not allowed. But it's been joined with another, just you're not OP on the the sticky now.

Titch
20-11-2008, 09:45 PM
Alex is the forum manager though, he has the right.

No he isnt, hes Moderation Manager, we dont have forum manager anymore.

Jordy
20-11-2008, 09:45 PM
Threads made for spamming e.g forum games need to start being moved to the spam section either way you look at it. Or if we could get the message around the whole forum that having a bigger post count doesn't make you any better then that might solve it.The only way to sort that is to stop rewarding people for having lots of posts, but I think that's unfair and there's no guarantee it would stop anything.

My suggestion to solving this 'Post your' problem is as follows:
Create a new forum which is only for 'Post Your' threads and only 'Post Your' threads belong there, post count would be disabled. Threads would require approval before being made public in that category to prevent a ridiculous over-load of silly Post Your threads such as 'Post your mothers best friends maiden name'. This would clean up all sections, it would not be a disaster if there was a lot of spam as post counts would be disabled.

I have a feeling this won't be incorporated because it just seems such a good idea that HabboxForum wouldn't even consider it, but come on, who's with me? :D

scottish
20-11-2008, 09:45 PM
End of the day hardly anyone would post once, even you were commenting on the pictures 'oh looks like a mexican, smart" or something along those lines.

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 09:46 PM
Im not arsed werther its my thread or not, its the fact that it should be a thread for sharing and discussing avatars.

@Knowed, you obviously did not read my post if you think the thread is for spamming.

@Scotteh, you mekd me lol. If you go in the thread people were discussing Avatars and stuff. It takes time mate, they were only released yesterday.

scottish
20-11-2008, 09:48 PM
But your post said that people weren't to post multiple times, only once with the avatar, but you, the one that stated that have posted multiple times in the thread so it would be spammed :P

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 09:50 PM
Was I spamming though, no?

I agree I should not have said you cant post more than once as thats pathetic. I think on topic, short discussions should be allowed, after-all, this is a discussion forum.

I just dont think its right it has been moved Spam. Whereas LOADS of crappy 'post your' threads are made in tech and they are allowed.

scottish
20-11-2008, 09:53 PM
Post your thread isn't really for discussions though, its for posting the thing relevent to the thread

'crappy post your' threads such as? Desktop and Setup isn't "crappy", any others?

You're lucky its not closed as most post your threads were, atleast it's still there :P

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 09:54 PM
The three I posted earlier. I recommend you READ THE THREAD before you post, please?

scottish
20-11-2008, 10:00 PM
List of torrent trackets is appropriate as it gives people ideas there to get their illegal downloads (which i hate anyways so yeh move it :P)

Performance shows off your computers windows performance which you've worked hard/paid to get.

Post your iPhone theme gives others ideas on what to get and influence them to get specific themes.

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 10:04 PM
They are pathetic reasons IMO. You dont post in the Microsoft forum much anyway so no disrespect, but I dont care what you think on this topic. (Sorry for being so blunt, dont know another way to word it)

Also, not all torrents are illegal.

scottish
20-11-2008, 10:07 PM
99% torrent are illegal downloads of music/video/software ;)

The reasons are pathetic because you're trying to get your point across and don't want me to prove you wrong :P

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 10:07 PM
Your far from proving me wrong matey.

And im sure that is a number you have made up, if not... wow.

scottish
20-11-2008, 10:10 PM
It'll be near that :P

I searched for "Percentage of torrents illegal" on google first bunch of results are Adrenalin.Crew.100.Percent.Illegal.DVDRip.XViD-vRs Torrent Download :rolleyes:

Callum.
20-11-2008, 10:10 PM
damn, still going on. it's been moved, new one put in. done.

newWORLDorder
20-11-2008, 10:11 PM
Does not prove your point though, does it?

Mint
20-11-2008, 10:32 PM
Im not arsed werther its my thread or not, its the fact that it should be a thread for sharing and discussing avatars.

@Knowed, you obviously did not read my post if you think the thread is for spamming.

@Scotteh, you mekd me lol. If you go in the thread people were discussing Avatars and stuff. It takes time mate, they were only released yesterday.
Sorry I didn't read your first post. So I wasn't aiming at your thread that got moved. I don't strongly agree with the decision to move your thread but I can see some sense in it. I do however think that forum management should ease up a bit with this.

The Professor
20-11-2008, 11:31 PM
The only way to sort that is to stop rewarding people for having lots of posts, but I think that's unfair and there's no guarantee it would stop anything.

My suggestion to solving this 'Post your' problem is as follows:
Create a new forum which is only for 'Post Your' threads and only 'Post Your' threads belong there, post count would be disabled. Threads would require approval before being made public in that category to prevent a ridiculous over-load of silly Post Your threads such as 'Post your mothers best friends maiden name'. This would clean up all sections, it would not be a disaster if there was a lot of spam as post counts would be disabled.

I have a feeling this won't be incorporated because it just seems such a good idea that HabboxForum wouldn't even consider it, but come on, who's with me? :D

We actually considered that for a while but having threads on subjects out of their sections (if that makes sense) and the lack of post count would deter people from posting in them until the forum became dead. I mean just look at forum games now... Unnecessary comment at the end though.



If it is about post counts, there is no point in moving because once you have posted once, you dont need to post again (as the images update, or unless you have more than one gamertag).

That is precisely the reason we don't need another thread on it. Your avatar is linked with your gamertag, if people want to display theirs they can post it in that thread with their gamertag and people can see it. Having another sticky just clutters up the top of the forum as well as adds another relatively pointless "Post Your" thread, which would only be used for post count anyway once the buzz about the new dashboard dies down.

J0SH
21-11-2008, 07:55 AM
But why do staff care so much about our post counts :P If we wanted to get some we couldn't because forum games was closed now we can't even make post your threads, it's sort of pathetic really how we're limited to what we can post on a bulletin board. :(

nvrspk4
21-11-2008, 08:05 AM
But like, he saw a staff member had stickied it and it had a valid reason, it belonged there. Bit stupid being in the spam forum imo.

MAD is not a member of staff :P The Moderation Department has the right ot make moderative decisions I don't really see the issue there.


But why do staff care so much about our post counts :P If we wanted to get some we couldn't because forum games was closed now we can't even make post your threads, it's sort of pathetic really how we're limited to what we can post on a bulletin board. :(

1) To limit spam
2) You get privileges by your post count now. You can post whatever you want (within reason of course), whether you get post counts for it is the difference.

J0SH
21-11-2008, 09:46 AM
Not really though as we can't post 'Post your..' threads :( Like I made a post your achievements and goals, it's to discuss what you're working for on the Xbox and what achievements you just unlocked but I can see that getting locked but a long 4k posts discussion about WWE video games won't be. :P

So basically we could make a similar topic but not title it as a post your?

Hiro
21-11-2008, 10:39 AM
Not really though as we can't post 'Post your..' threads :( Like I made a post your achievements and goals, it's to discuss what you're working for on the Xbox and what achievements you just unlocked but I can see that getting locked but a long 4k posts discussion about WWE video games won't be. :P

So basically we could make a similar topic but not title it as a post your?

Not necessarily, even if the thread title doesn't contain "Post your.." if a moderator read it and deemed it as a "Post your.." thread, it would be closed.
But, I understand what you're saying, and I would like to argue that it would be nice to have the Achievements and Goals thread back or a new one to be created and kept, It would work just as well as the sub-forum in the Runescape section?

J0SH
21-11-2008, 11:06 AM
Not necessarily, even if the thread title doesn't contain "Post your.." if a moderator read it and deemed it as a "Post your.." thread, it would be closed.
But, I understand what you're saying, and I would like to argue that it would be nice to have the Achievements and Goals thread back or a new one to be created and kept, It would work just as well as the sub-forum in the Runescape section?

Yeah, I wouldn't mind if we had avatar, gamertag & achievements/goals in one thread.

Pyroka
21-11-2008, 11:16 AM
I wouldn't mind the Avatar & GT in one thread, but we can't show regular updates of our Avatars. I think the first thread post (made by Prof-Alex) should have a dynamic image of everyones avatars after they've posted their gamertag, THAT I really wouldn't mind at all because it automatically updates itself anyway. A little table with a header (GT) and avatar would be a great idea.

Goals & Achievements however, I don't see how that'd work at all. It'd cross over a bit too much tbh. Why are management so worried about postcounts anyway? They have left the "What are you listening to?" thread, when its the WORST OFFENDER of all the 'post your' threads. Most people will just post their Gamertag once, and their Avatar once. The goals/achievements thread won't create a shedload of spam.

Oh and another little thing to point out, they just upgraded the Platinum postcount to 20,000, so the only rank that actually means something, has been achieved by one forum member. ONE. I agree that they should be sorta moderated, but thats why we have forum MODs. :rolleyes: It's one big failure in my eyes, the 'post your' system isn't any better, it's just now threads are made by management members. :S

J0SH
21-11-2008, 11:19 AM
They allow the post what you're listening to thread as apparently some people view it and find new 'artists' that they listen to and grow to like :P

Pyroka
21-11-2008, 11:23 AM
They allow the post what you're listening to thread as apparently some people view it and find new 'artists' that they listen to and grow to like :P

We use the Gamertag thread as a way to find peoples Gamertags, and now to view their Avatars. I think finding 'new artists' is a load of bullcrap really, because most people go into that thread aiming to get their postcount higher. We don't because you can only post your Gamertag once. >_>

The Goals & Achievements thread though, yeah we can post in that multiple times but Console Games isn't the most popular forum is it? Not like you can make LOOOOOADS of posts in one day, just in that thread. The music thread however... :eusa_whis

J0SH
21-11-2008, 11:26 AM
Yep, and we've now got a thread that has allowed avatars & gamer tags ;)

Pyroka
21-11-2008, 11:29 AM
Yes, I know that. I don't know why they don't just make two seperate threads though, because either way people are posting twice (OMG POST COUNTS GONNA GO UP?!) just to show off their avatar, as well as their Gamertag. :S

I'm just a bit irritated, because there were only three forums that abused the 'post your' thread, and it was Runescape, Music & Forum Games... Forum games I'm not sure if it counts. :S

Jordy
21-11-2008, 11:43 AM
People are forever going off-topic and that's not getting un-noticed. I feel this move has little substance still and if HabboxForum were really dedicated about getting rid of spam, how come it took them about a year to get rid of Forum Games? I'd suggest making the rules tougher if they're interested in combating pointless posting and spamming.

I feel these sort of threads really got people talking though, usually about things on topic as well and I think they're the more interesting threads on the forum, that's why I'd prefer to keep them or chuck them all in one forum.

Here's my advice if you want to cut down on pointless posting: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=474736

newWORLDorder's point still hasn't been answered either, how come his got moved to spam and the rest aren't?

Pyroka
21-11-2008, 11:47 AM
Jordy, you're missing the fact Habbox is some sort of Democracy. They put things forward to Management, and they're debated for so bloody long, no action is taken upon it in the end. I agree with the link you posted, that's so true and even I'm a culprit of it, so you can't say the problem isn't noticeable, it really is.

Someone suggested a Habbox Light skin ages ago, it's only RECENTLY they've got into developing it. They even made a mobile skin before the suggestion (which was really horrible btw). Users can get to vote on things, but those votes are taken to the 'higher forces of Habbox' and then they're taken into consideration, after a 5 month debate on one thing.

Their time and effort efficiency is poor.

scottish
21-11-2008, 12:25 PM
Not really though as we can't post 'Post your..' threads :( Like I made a post your achievements and goals, it's to discuss what you're working for on the Xbox and what achievements you just unlocked but I can see that getting locked but a long 4k posts discussion about WWE video games won't be. :P

So basically we could make a similar topic but not title it as a post your?

but i could get thousands of posts by posting every single achievment i unlock (even though i don't play xbox but you get my point) everytime you unlock one post and theres tons in each game? o.0

J0SH
21-11-2008, 12:52 PM
but i could get thousands of posts by posting every single achievment i unlock (even though i don't play xbox but you get my point) everytime you unlock one post and theres tons in each game? o.0

That's not the point in the thread really, it's to say 'Oh I just done x on vetern' or 'Oh I just complete campaign on Gears 2' and such not to really post every single achievement you unlock :P

scottish
21-11-2008, 12:54 PM
But people would do that lol

newWORLDorder
21-11-2008, 01:02 PM
I have the answer to solve this!

Leave this thread and use prof-alex's!

Wow, that was a arduous decision :l.

Seriously, looking back, idgaf. A thread is a thread, all I thought is that a Microsoft thread that is fine and serving its purpose should be in the MS thread. I dont know why it was moved, did Prof-Alex want his name to be on the thread or something? It was a decision that did not have much of a reason.


Lets just use Alex's thread.

J0SH
21-11-2008, 01:04 PM
I have the answer to solve this!

Leave this thread and use prof-alex's!

Wow, that was a arduous decision :l.

Seriously, looking back, idgaf. A thread is a thread, all I thought is that a Microsoft thread that is fine and serving its purpose should be in the MS thread. I dont know why it was moved, did Prof-Alex want his name to be on the thread or something? It was a decision that did not have much of a reason.


Lets just use Alex's thread.

That's what we have been doing, a few pages back we discovered that it was merged into one thread but a rant is still going on, lol.

scottish
21-11-2008, 01:06 PM
You do care though cause your crying about it lol

newWORLDorder
21-11-2008, 01:07 PM
Oh buggar off. Im not crying about it at all. Do you really think I would get worked up over an internet forum? You really need to get out more son.


Why dont you go out and leave this thread, im more than happy to use Professor Alex's thread.
Thanks.

scottish
21-11-2008, 01:09 PM
Lol, son.

You are crying, your trying to argue with me because you can't take the fact its moved, you've been argueing for 6 pages now when your in the wrong.

You repped me because i merk ya.

I'm just about to go out so thanks ;)

newWORLDorder
21-11-2008, 01:19 PM
LOL. Holy crap, you should do stand up. I dont give a flying **** about the thread now, it was a thread on a habbo forum.

BRB GONNA SLIT ME WRISTS :<<<<

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