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Corporal
20-11-2008, 09:00 PM
Whats this all about the BNP.
Whys it so bad?

mike475
20-11-2008, 09:01 PM
I looked at the list and some members live not to far from me :P

bricks through there windows soon i would say (not by me).

dirrty
20-11-2008, 09:02 PM
where can you see the list?
i couldnt find it lolll

Kardan
20-11-2008, 09:07 PM
From what my friends have told me (and for that reason I'm rather suspicuous if it's true...)

The BNP don't want any people that aren't White in the country or something like that. I'm probably just being really gullible... I don't know much about politics.

Wikipedia it?


According to its constitution, the BNP is "committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent the overwhelmingly white makeup of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948."[19] The BNP also proposes "firm but voluntary incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home."[20]

It advocates the repeal of all anti-discrimination legislation, and restricts party membership to "indigenous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of ‘Indigenous Caucasian’". The BNP also accepts white immigrants that are assimilated into one of those ethnicities.[19]

The BNP asserts that there are biological racial differences that determine the behaviour and character of individuals of different races, although it does not regard whites as superior to other ethnic groups.[21] The party claims that preference for one's own ethnicity is a part of human nature.[20] Its publicity has often conflated Islam with Marxism, due to both systems aiming to put all the world's people under a common system,[citation needed] and has suggested that mainstream politicians with Marxist pasts are partially responsible for this.

Historically, under John Tyndall's leadership, the BNP was overtly anti-Semitic; however, under the current leadership of Nick Griffin, the BNP has focused on criticism of Islam. The party has said that it does not consider the Jewish, Hindu or Sikh religions to have a significantly detrimental or threatening effect, although it does not accept practising Sikhs, Jews and Hindus as culturally or ethnically British.[22] The party does however have members with Jewish ancestry. The BNP has been known to work with extremist Hindu and Sikh groups opposing Islam,[23] and has actively tried to win Jewish votes.[24]

Wayne
20-11-2008, 09:08 PM
I heard that BMP are against foreign people/gay people in the UK.

dirrty
20-11-2008, 09:10 PM
if it aint white, it aint right is what they probably believe in.

Virgin Mary
20-11-2008, 09:12 PM
because we just had a remembrance day to remember the people who died fighting against their political ideology lol xx

Kaveri
20-11-2008, 09:13 PM
I'm all for it, support them.

They speak the truth unlike other political parties.

IceNineKills
20-11-2008, 09:18 PM
Keep Britian British, nothing wrong with that.

Wayne
20-11-2008, 09:19 PM
Keep Britian British, nothing wrong with that.

I agree with that.

Susie Dent
20-11-2008, 09:20 PM
Nasty racists xx
let me remind you all your ancestors were black at one point x

RockyHorror
20-11-2008, 09:20 PM
It's a misconception that the BNP are racist, they have black members.

Alkaz
20-11-2008, 09:20 PM
They are against people coming over and wanting equal rites because they are in England or have family. They are supporting the people who have lived in the UK for generations basically, no matter on what race. You have to work up the hierachy.

... I think.

Kaveri
20-11-2008, 09:23 PM
They want the scroungers to **** off basically.

The people who say they are racist because they want non-whites out are the real racists.

Cypher-
20-11-2008, 09:26 PM
I'm all for it, support them.

They speak the truth unlike other political parties.

Why would you be all for running the country into the ground? I am firmly against illegal immigrants in our country but lets face it, us white brits are a lazy bunch. If you want something done cheap but for great quality you go to a foreigner, its a fact.

BettySwollocks
20-11-2008, 09:26 PM
Downloaded the leaked list and there's only about 5 or so on there from up here, quite suprising really as it's casual racism is rife up here.

How ironic was it though that Nick Griffin was the Human Rights Act that it should be removed :lol:

Virgin Mary
20-11-2008, 09:27 PM
They want the scroungers to **** off basically.

The people who say they are racist because they want non-whites out are the real racists.
If they want non-whites out then they are racist. They don't want scroungers out, that is one excuse they use. Either immigrants are scroungers or they're stealing everyone's job. It's an extremely self-defeating political party.

alexxxxx
20-11-2008, 09:43 PM
they're racists. nick griffin the leader, is a racist.

they hate everything that isnt british. they dislike/hate people who aren't white/british.

everyone knows it.

whats ironic is that the bnp are using european human rights laws to protect the privacy when they dislike the EU also.

BettySwollocks
20-11-2008, 09:47 PM
they're racists. nick griffin the leader, is a racist.

they hate everything that isnt british. they dislike/hate people who aren't white/british.

everyone knows it.

whats ironic is that the bnp are using european human rights laws to protect the privacy when they dislike the EU also.
Are you a mod or something?! I've just posted more or less the exact same thing but it still hasn't been approved yet... :$

drama
20-11-2008, 10:12 PM
They want the scroungers to **** off basically.

The people who say they are racist because they want non-whites out are the real racists.

the hypocrisy!
the ignorance!

oh god, it's actually hurting, but seriously Kaveri, try proof reading so you don't make yourself look like such a *removed*

Edited by Wayne (Forum Moderator) Please don't avoid the filter.

Kaveri
20-11-2008, 10:21 PM
If they want non-whites out then they are racist. They don't want scroungers out, that is one excuse they use. Either immigrants are scroungers or they're stealing everyone's job. It's an extremely self-defeating political party.
Immigrants who come here and claim government money because their own country is in the ****. Fine, they're having a **** time but that's their countries' fault and not ours. If you want over-population, so be it but don't complain when every second person's mother tongue isn't English.

I also like how, because I don't support other people's views I get called a Nazi over and over by 12 year olds who know **** all about everything. You obviously don't know the meaning of the word Nazi.

Virgin Mary
20-11-2008, 10:32 PM
Immigrants who come here and claim government money because their own country is in the ****. Fine, they're having a **** time but that's their countries' fault and not ours. If you want over-population, so be it but don't complain when every second person's mother tongue isn't English.

I also like how, because I don't support other people's views I get called a Nazi over and over by 12 year olds who know **** all about everything. You obviously don't know the meaning of the word Nazi.
The meaning of the word nazi is national socialist which is what the BNP are. They aim to spread fascism - the people who support them are the same kind who deny the holocaust and must think it was wrong to stop germany from propagating fascism.

Kaveri
20-11-2008, 10:34 PM
Hardly. I'm not racist, it's just the fact that illegal immigrants who come over to this country, scrounge off the government, take our government money that could be used to improve education/travel/economy/whatever and then say that they get treated like balls and claim racial abuse at any chance they can.

THOSE are the people who I am against (and these people are covered in the BNP's plans however, their extremist views - I do not share).

N-Dubz
20-11-2008, 11:21 PM
they just want britain white like how it should be, they aint racist cuz' one of them supported borack obama in the USA elections!!

Clowgon
21-11-2008, 01:10 PM
Why would you be all for running the country into the ground? I am firmly against illegal immigrants in our country but lets face it, us white brits are a lazy bunch. If you want something done cheap but for great quality you go to a foreigner, its a fact.

Totally agree with you there.

Clowgon
21-11-2008, 01:15 PM
they just want britain white like how it should be, they aint racist cuz' one of them supported borack obama in the USA elections!!


SO! That does not mean they are not racists.

Edited by Wayne (Forum Moderator) Please don't double post.

mat64
21-11-2008, 01:23 PM
Keep Britian British, nothing wrong with that.Britain is changing and has been for many decades now. It's not just in the past 5 years that we've only had foreign nationals living and working in the UK. It's been like this for quite a while and there's nothing short of leaving the EU that we can do about it really. There's nothing wrong with been patriotic but there's a line between that and discrimination; there's a Romanian lad at College and he's pretty sound, if not for him there's some things I wouldn't know about my passion that I do now.

Don't be fooled into thinking that our current government does nothing to deal with illegal immigrants in our country, as cheesy as it sounds "I've seen it on TV".

Don't get me wrong though, I don't support revolving door policies for our country but I don't support the view of the BNP either. To me their views are those of the uneducated on the issue.

Ashhizzle
21-11-2008, 05:07 PM
Thats wrong, if all the Gurkha's Are kicked out of england we'll have the Crappiest army ever.

And black people make london what london is.

:)

Anybody else Who doesn't help the economy can piss off as far as im concerned :)

Loser
21-11-2008, 05:33 PM
Keep Britian British, nothing wrong with that.

Ok, what is "British"?


Immigrants who come here and claim government money because their own country is in the ****. Fine, they're having a **** time but that's their countries' fault and not ours.

So why should they suffer? If Britain broke into civil war and you could barely live here, would you stay, or move to America or somewhere? Ask yourself this, answer truthfully, then tell me that people escaping war don't deserve to live in Britain.


If you want over-population, so be it but don't complain when every second person's mother tongue isn't English.

I wont because it won't happen.


I also like how, because I don't support other people's views I get called a Nazi over and over by 12 year olds who know **** all about everything. You obviously don't know the meaning of the word Nazi.


Nazi ideology stressed the "racial purity of the German people"

That's all the comparison you need, my friend.


Hardly. I'm not racist, it's just the fact that illegal immigrants who come over to this country, scrounge off the government, take our government money that could be used to improve education/travel/economy/whatever and then say that they get treated like balls and claim racial abuse at any chance they can.

Nobody wants illegal immigrants living in Britain, this isn't about illegal immigrants. You've suggested earlier that you wouldn't be happy to have people here that don't speak English as first tongue, most illegal immigrants are from Ireland. A fun fact for the ignorant racist.


they just want britain white like how it should be, they aint racist cuz' one of them supported borack obama in the USA elections!!

You don't know what racism is, unfortunately, so you're not allowed to say who/what is and is not racist.

Blue.Neon
21-11-2008, 06:10 PM
I'm all for it, support them.

They speak the truth unlike other political parties.

Exactly, just what this country needs! Make England a better place to live again!


Keep Britian British, nothing wrong with that.

Agreed! Afterall, it was our own people who faught for us in the wars!


I agree with that.

Good :)

BNP!

Blue.Neon
21-11-2008, 06:16 PM
Why would you be all for running the country into the ground? I am firmly against illegal immigrants in our country but lets face it, us white brits are a lazy bunch. If you want something done cheap but for great quality you go to a foreigner, its a fact.

The point is, the lazy 'white brits' are OUR problem! Immagrants arent, FACT!

Virgin Mary
21-11-2008, 06:19 PM
Exactly, just what this country needs! Make England a better place to live again!



Agreed! Afterall, it was our own people who faught for us in the wars!



Good :)

BNP!
Actually black people, jews and muslims fought in the wars as they would all be affected by the nazis. They all fought against fascism, suggesting we should have a fascist party as our main party is rendering what people were fighting for pointless. Sorry to say xx

Susie Dent
21-11-2008, 06:32 PM
Exactly, just what this country needs! Make England a better place to live again!



Agreed! Afterall, it was our own people who faught for us in the wars!



Good :)

BNP!
lolol, then take your own advice and go back to Germany you Nazi aryan!

Captain
21-11-2008, 06:34 PM
I just had a look and there 46 members from my town :o

cocaine
21-11-2008, 06:48 PM
wher can i find dis list??

Captain
21-11-2008, 06:49 PM
http://wikileaks.org.uk/leak/bnp-membership-list.txt

Loser
21-11-2008, 06:55 PM
Thanks. Although, I advise moderators to remove it.

cocaine
21-11-2008, 06:55 PM
theres like 30 from my town aha

Technologic
21-11-2008, 08:53 PM
Agreed! Afterall, it was our own people who faught for us in the wars!

You seem to be forgetting the gurkhas...

Bef
21-11-2008, 09:13 PM
The BNP have the same ideas as the Nazis did, seriously, read up the things that they are saying and then read up the shizer hitler was spouting.
How ironic that people on here are saying things like
IT WAZ DE WHITES WHICH WONZ US THE WAR LIK SO THER FOR THEY IS THE BEST!!

Yes they were fighting against the Nazis, the German BNP...

drama
21-11-2008, 09:15 PM
just found somone on the list who lives in a neighbouring villageeee

OmgitsAmanda
21-11-2008, 09:28 PM
Quite a few members live really close to me :| haha.

Kaveri
21-11-2008, 11:49 PM
I'd also just like to point out that even if people represent the BNP and stand for what they stand for, their opinions should still be respected. You wouldn't disrespect a person's religious views so don't disrespect a person's political views.

Cypher-
22-11-2008, 01:50 PM
The point is, the lazy 'white brits' are OUR problem! Immagrants arent, FACT!

That sentence doesnt make any sense at all, Im against illegal immigrants who sponge of our government. Im all for making our great country great again, but most of the problems arent from outside intruders its from us! We are a lazy self depricating nation who let thugs run the streets stabbing innocent's then after a life has been lost, call for a death sentence.

We never want to act when we should. Its not just about immigrants anyway, if you are not white they want you out, basically BNP = Nazi Party, It has the exact same principles and desires and I bet if the officials in the BNP could get away with it they would rid our country of who they dont desire the same way Hitler cleansed Germany.

Hayd93
22-11-2008, 02:13 PM
I heard that BMP are against foreign people/gay people in the UK.

That is correct they are fully against gays. Known to BNP members as "Aids monkeys" "Bum boys" and "******s". They are not racist though. read below.

Nasty racists xx
let me remind you all your ancestors were black at one point x

THe BNP are not racist at all. There policys are all above board and are not unfair. The BNP do have strong views on sutch subjects as forigners but they are not racist.


they're racists. nick griffin the leader, is a racist.

they hate everything that isnt british. they dislike/hate people who aren't white/british.

everyone knows it.

whats ironic is that the bnp are using european human rights laws to protect the privacy when they dislike the EU also.

Nick maybe racist behind the scenes as many have found out but when it comes to the party nick is not racist. The BNP is fully fine its just unlike labour some of its main proposials involve views that maybe considered to some as racist but is really just very strong views on ethnical matters.


The BNP have the same ideas as the Nazis did, seriously, read up the things that they are saying and then read up the shizer hitler was spouting.
How ironic that people on here are saying things like
IT WAZ DE WHITES WHICH WONZ US THE WAR LIK SO THER FOR THEY IS THE BEST!!

Yes they were fighting against the Nazis, the German BNP...


WRONG!

The BNP do not wanna kill all blacks in there country. All they wanna do is stop more blacks and forigners comeing into the country. Hitler and the nazis remeber basicly slaughtered all the jews in the country. The BNP do not want to do this they just wanna stop them entering.

Kaveri
22-11-2008, 05:43 PM
That is correct they are fully against gays. Known to BNP members as "Aids monkeys" "Bum boys" and "******s". They are not racist though. read below.


THe BNP are not racist at all. There policys are all above board and are not unfair. The BNP do have strong views on sutch subjects as forigners but they are not racist.



Nick maybe racist behind the scenes as many have found out but when it comes to the party nick is not racist. The BNP is fully fine its just unlike labour some of its main proposials involve views that maybe considered to some as racist but is really just very strong views on ethnical matters.



WRONG!

The BNP do not wanna kill all blacks in there country. All they wanna do is stop more blacks and forigners comeing into the country. Hitler and the nazis remeber basicly slaughtered all the jews in the country. The BNP do not want to do this they just wanna stop them entering.


Someone who speaks sense, and isn't a 10 year old trying to understand politics :rolleyes:.

Nemo
22-11-2008, 05:48 PM
That is correct they are fully against gays. Known to BNP members as "Aids monkeys" "Bum boys" and "******s". They are not racist though. read below.


THe BNP are not racist at all. There policys are all above board and are not unfair. The BNP do have strong views on sutch subjects as forigners but they are not racist.



Nick maybe racist behind the scenes as many have found out but when it comes to the party nick is not racist. The BNP is fully fine its just unlike labour some of its main proposials involve views that maybe considered to some as racist but is really just very strong views on ethnical matters.



WRONG!

The BNP do not wanna kill all blacks in there country. All they wanna do is stop more blacks and forigners comeing into the country. Hitler and the nazis remeber basicly slaughtered all the jews in the country. The BNP do not want to do this they just wanna stop them entering.
So what you're saying is they generalise people basing them on the colour of their skin?

Sammeth.
22-11-2008, 05:52 PM
That is correct they are fully against gays. Known to BNP members as "Aids monkeys" "Bum boys" and "******s". They are not racist though. read below.

Oh, how lovely that as a forward thinking nation we have such a backward party attempting to represent us. Can't wait till they come into power (which will be never).

Kaveri
22-11-2008, 05:58 PM
So what you're saying is they generalise people basing them on the colour of their skin?
It's mainly black people / polish that are illegal immigrants which is why they get generalised into the same bracket. Don't try and cause arguments.

Virgin Mary
22-11-2008, 06:08 PM
That is correct they are fully against gays. Known to BNP members as "Aids monkeys" "Bum boys" and "******s". They are not racist though. read below.


THe BNP are not racist at all. There policys are all above board and are not unfair. The BNP do have strong views on sutch subjects as forigners but they are not racist.



Nick maybe racist behind the scenes as many have found out but when it comes to the party nick is not racist. The BNP is fully fine its just unlike labour some of its main proposials involve views that maybe considered to some as racist but is really just very strong views on ethnical matters.



WRONG!

The BNP do not wanna kill all blacks in there country. All they wanna do is stop more blacks and forigners comeing into the country. Hitler and the nazis remeber basicly slaughtered all the jews in the country. The BNP do not want to do this they just wanna stop them entering.
I.e. they're racist. And Hitler didn't exactly get to power by going "let's kill all the jews", he got to power the same way as the BNP try to - creating a scapegoat and using propaganda. It's called being tactical.

dirrty
22-11-2008, 06:20 PM
It's mainly black people / polish that are illegal immigrants which is why they get generalised into the same bracket. Don't try and cause arguments.
the majority of settled black people came over here in the UK legally, in like the 50s/60s. you may now reply saying the asylum seekers or whoever have started to come over recently, but that still doesn't justify your "mainly black people" comment, as its just not true.

tbh, the UK and other countries have the same problems with immigrants going over to other countries. whether you like it or not, it will continue to happen. with that, i doubt the BNP will become in power anytime soon as the majority of the voting population are still against them. With the growing number of immigrants in the UK, i doubt they'll be voting for the BNP anytime soon.

you and others who support the BNP will have to accept that the UK and other western countries have recently been built upon immigrant workers doing the jobs and receving the wages which british citizens dont want to do.

Hayd93
22-11-2008, 07:12 PM
So what you're saying is they generalise people basing them on the colour of their skin?

Nope, There aim is basicy to keep Britain as it was. So less foreigners ect as imergartion has got out of control. As the BNP say how long will it be till is the other way. More forigners than britains ?


Oh, how lovely that as a forward thinking nation we have such a backward party attempting to represent us. Can't wait till they come into power (which will be never).
You would accually be surprized that the BNP are gaining more members by the week. People have had enough now of forigners getting all the benifits ect. It has been proven how many people hate gay people and wished it was illigal ect.


I.e. they're racist. And Hitler didn't exactly get to power by going "let's kill all the jews", he got to power the same way as the BNP try to - creating a scapegoat and using propaganda. It's called being tactical.

The BNP are not racist, Please try and undertand here that the BNP just want to control imergration not stop it. They want to bring back suytch things as the death penelty and try to get britain in a good shape again.

Remeber also racism cuts both ways something that labour fail to tackle. If we called a black person something racist there would be hell to play. But if they said something to us most likely the case wouldent even reach a court.

Sammeth.
22-11-2008, 08:04 PM
You would accually be surprized that the BNP are gaining more members by the week. People have had enough now of forigners getting all the benifits ect. It has been proven how many people hate gay people and wished it was illigal ect.


I am surprised that a backward party is gaining more members, that agree with their sickening views. Its a shame that their view is that anyone who is different is hated. Its a really narrow minded way to live a life and I pity people who judge others for being human. It's disgusting. In this country being gay will never be illegal, and I think you'll find an overwhelming majority will agree. The UK is one of the most diverse and liberal places around, and that's how it should stay.

PriceTags
22-11-2008, 08:10 PM
More and more countries are voting for gay marriage and civil partnerships, and some BNP members are based in Spain, so maybe they should get their derrieres out of other people's countries before telling the Asians, blacks and Eastern Europeans to poo off.

Nemo
22-11-2008, 08:23 PM
It's mainly black people / polish that are illegal immigrants which is why they get generalised into the same bracket. Don't try and cause arguments.
Its not an arguement, its a debate.

Hayd93
22-11-2008, 08:32 PM
I am surprised that a backward party is gaining more members, that agree with their sickening views. Its a shame that their view is that anyone who is different is hated. Its a really narrow minded way to live a life and I pity people who judge others for being human. It's disgusting. In this country being gay will never be illegal, and I think you'll find an overwhelming majority will agree. The UK is one of the most diverse and liberal places around, and that's how it should stay.
Well If you look below
http://vvcap.net/db/DCcy0_orMU4UnaFiJMuV.jpg

There the figures for the popularity of the party. In my opinion the BNP have some very good points.

Sutch as:
http://vvcap.net/db/DfVZcaH_6AdU7Wq1134j.jpg
Please tell me how is that right ? How come a elderly person who has worked all there life and grafted for there country gets less rights than some forigner who has been in our country 10 minutes ?

http://vvcap.net/db/evXvEgks1VnAnvmfrbue.jpg
Another good one is that. especially the terrorist bit labour are all nice nice around terrorist saying they shouldn't be looked up for so many days without charge. If someone is suspected of terrorsm then in my opinion the police should be aloud to question then as long as they like. They should also be able to hand the death sentance to them if they are found guilty.

It just gets on my nevers that people straight away go the BNP is racist when accually then have some very good policys that dont incluse anything to do with forigners at all.

As i have said they are just very strong viewed on ethnic matters.

Sammeth.
22-11-2008, 08:42 PM
Well If you look below
http://vvcap.net/db/DCcy0_orMU4UnaFiJMuV.jpg

There the figures for the popularity of the party. In my opinion the BNP have some very good points.

Sutch as:
http://vvcap.net/db/DfVZcaH_6AdU7Wq1134j.jpg
Please tell me how is that right ? How come a elderly person who has worked all there life and grafted for there country gets less rights than some forigner who has been in our country 10 minutes ?

http://vvcap.net/db/evXvEgks1VnAnvmfrbue.jpg
Another good one is that. especially the terrorist bit labour are all nice nice around terrorist saying they shouldn't be looked up for so many days without charge. If someone is suspected of terrorsm then in my opinion the police should be aloud to question then as long as they like. They should also be able to hand the death sentance to them if they are found guilty.

It just gets on my nevers that people straight away go the BNP is racist when accually then have some very good policys that dont incluse anything to do with forigners at all.

As i have said they are just very strong viewed on ethnic matters.

And there I was thinking the topic I was disgusted was their outright homophobic views rather than anything else. And yes, they are incredibly homophobic, they dont just have strong views on homosexuals. The above is nothing to do with what I was talking about, so I dont know why you quote me. But seeing as you did the above is propaganda, making situations seem worse than they actually are.

Hayd93
22-11-2008, 08:56 PM
And there I was thinking the topic I was disgusted was their outright homophobic views rather than anything else. And yes, they are incredibly homophobic, they dont just have strong views on homosexuals. The above is nothing to do with what I was talking about, so I dont know why you quote me. But seeing as you did the above is propaganda, making situations seem worse than they actually are.
Yes there strong views on homosexuals people have differnt opinions about. Please think that its right and others wrong.

Thats why the BNP don't get as many votes as most big political partys. They dont aim to please everyone. You either agree with most of there proposals or you dont.

Sammeth.
22-11-2008, 09:10 PM
Yes there strong views on homosexuals people have differnt opinions about. Please think that its right and others wrong.

Thats why the BNP don't get as many votes as most big political partys. They dont aim to please everyone. You either agree with most of there proposals or you dont.
No, they arent strong views. Regardless of it being an opinion its a homophobic opinion. Referring to a group of people as "AIDs Monkeys" or "******s" is homophobic, and that's fact.

alexxxxx
22-11-2008, 09:27 PM
If you can't see that the BNP is bad for this country then tbh I don't think you should be allowed to be a super-mod. *awaits infraction*

And the BNP wants to send foreign nationals home. They say they would even go to lengths of PAYING them to go home. And you have to remember there is a difference between Illegal Immigrant, Asylum Seeker, Immigrant and EU citizen. That same money that they'd pay to people could be used to fund the NHS. Just like the money they are trying to save by gettin rid of asylum seekers.

Illegal meaning they have NO right to live here (ie they get sent home), asylum seeker (a person who has no right to work in the UK, but LEGALLY has to stay here under international law), Immigrant (someone that has passed the barriers to entry, ie by marriage/job/other) and EU (citizen of EU nation). The government can't do ANYTHING about Asylum seekers.

And the BNP have been doing things like sending out leaflets and booklets about murders by non-white people to school children. You think the Nazis went round saying 'oh we'll kill the jews,' no they got elected by using them as scapegoats, like the muslims are atm. I even saw a Daily Mail (nazi-sypathiser paper) with the headline 'Traitor in a Headscarf' trying to push the agenda.

They use the british white person as the 'victim' of the 'immigrants' which is quite clearly not the case, as, on average, immigrants are poorer. And the whole thing about re-enacting the death penalty and being 'tough' and letting police work without paperwork sounds good, but when the corruption and the false-executions come in, then it won't be funny.

I'm disgusted they use the british flag on their logo.

Hayd93
22-11-2008, 09:48 PM
If you can't see that the BNP is bad for this country then tbh I don't think you should be allowed to be a super-mod. *awaits infraction*

And the BNP wants to send foreign nationals home. They say they would even go to lengths of PAYING them to go home. And you have to remember there is a difference between Illegal Immigrant, Asylum Seeker, Immigrant and EU citizen. That same money that they'd pay to people could be used to fund the NHS. Just like the money they are trying to save by gettin rid of asylum seekers.

Illegal meaning they have NO right to live here (ie they get sent home), asylum seeker (a person who has no right to work in the UK, but LEGALLY has to stay here under international law), Immigrant (someone that has passed the barriers to entry, ie by marriage/job/other) and EU (citizen of EU nation). The government can't do ANYTHING about Asylum seekers.

And the BNP have been doing things like sending out leaflets and booklets about murders by non-white people to school children. You think the Nazis went round saying 'oh we'll kill the jews,' no they got elected by using them as scapegoats, like the muslims are atm. I even saw a Daily Mail (nazi-sypathiser paper) with the headline 'Traitor in a Headscarf' trying to push the agenda.

They use the british white person as the 'victim' of the 'immigrants' which is quite clearly not the case, as, on average, immigrants are poorer. And the whole thing about re-enacting the death penalty and being 'tough' and letting police work without paperwork sounds good, but when the corruption and the false-executions come in, then it won't be funny.

I'm disgusted they use the british flag on their logo.

I can see how some things are wrong with the BNP. That is why i dont actually support them. It just annoys me people scream racist at them ect when accually they aint.

If you think the BNP is bad i suggest you look up National front They are alot lot worse.

alexxxxx
22-11-2008, 09:48 PM
oh sorry to double post but Hayd93, Labour TRIED to get 90 days without charge BUT the conservatives and labour rebels voted it down.

Get your facts right before arguing on politics.

Oh yeah but i agree the national front are very 'up front' about their beliefs.

Ashhizzle
22-11-2008, 09:50 PM
Agreed! Afterall, it was our own people who faught for us in the wars!!
Without the gurkha's we'd be under german control... They are one of the most ruthless kind of soldier, theres no doubt about it they make the British army half decent. instead of some army who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag :)

alexxxxx
22-11-2008, 09:51 PM
yeah, the commonwealth nations helped us out.

So to say only the british fought for freedom on this island is untrue.

Hayd93
22-11-2008, 10:14 PM
oh sorry to double post but Hayd93, Labour TRIED to get 90 days without charge BUT the conservatives and labour rebels voted it down.

Get your facts right before arguing on politics.

Oh yeah but i agree the national front are very 'up front' about their beliefs.
Ye national front i dont agree with that at all as that basicly is just pure racism. There polices are basicly no gay no black.

Bomb-Head
22-11-2008, 11:10 PM
IMO the BNP are scum - racist and homophobic.

We're in 2008 and I think they need to open their eyes - gay people exist and always will whether they like it or not :)

(And no matter how much you try to disguise it, they are deffinately racist)

Sammeth.
22-11-2008, 11:11 PM
IMO the BNP are scum - racist and homophobic.

We're in 2008 and I think they need to open their eyes - gay people exist and always will whether they like it or not :)

(And no matter how much you try to disguise it, they are deffinately racist)
And definately homophobic ;)!

Virgin Mary
22-11-2008, 11:24 PM
they're also more anti-british than any immigrant

wolfsburg
23-11-2008, 12:36 AM
immigrants can come over to this country and barely work, then claim the same pension money that us uk residents (whom some have worked all their lives) get. it's disgusting. if you're coming over, work and don't claim benefits from the british taxpayer. furthermore, if you want us to change for you, go back to your own country. we shouldn't have to change for them.

flyingbrick
23-11-2008, 12:43 AM
I find it laughable and sad that a party with the principles and beliefs of the BNP can actually get support in a country like ours.

This is 2008, America has just elected a black president, we're suposed to be working together and helping each other build a future. And we still have ourselves poorly educated half-wits who hate black people just because they're black.

The BNP (and The National Front) deserve the ridicule they recieve, because in a world that is trying to mature, they're just a bunch of bitter and petulant *******s who have nothing better to do than hinder progress and prevent much needed unity.

I have no respect for stupid racists.

Mint
23-11-2008, 12:45 AM
I support the BNP.

flyingbrick
23-11-2008, 01:00 AM
I support the BNP.

You're an idiot then.

Edited by Alkaz (Forum Moderator): Please do not be rude to other forum members.

Hayd93
23-11-2008, 10:08 AM
IMO the BNP are scum - racist and homophobic.

We're in 2008 and I think they need to open their eyes - gay people exist and always will whether they like it or not :)

(And no matter how much you try to disguise it, they are definitely racist)

You clearly have not read the whole thread, As i have explained the BNP themselves are not racist, certain members of the BNP are behind the scenes i know for a face nick is after the comment he made undercover about islam.

As said yes this is 2008 but the amount of members that are becomeing BNP members has gone up. This is showing people are getting just a little bit hacked off that forigners are getting more than them. Especially this time in the credit crunch many people are being sacked from their jobs and getting replaced with forginers.

Please undertsand the BNP are not racist they maybe homophobic but they are not racist.

On the homophobic issue. but is that a good thing or a bad thing that being gay will be illigal ? I know many people who think gay people are sick and twisted. On the other side i see people who dont mind it. All the BNP are trying to do is bring back old england, No gay Less foigners.

As said everyone things the BNP wants forigners to be sent back home. This is not due all they want to do is control imergration comeing into the country.


I support the BNP.

Unlike many on this forum who straight away go RACIST because they dont have a clue what they are talking about i have 2 sides to your story.

Yes i can see why you support the BNP they do have some very good policies on this like crime. I can also see then other side in that some of the stuff they say is just wrong. That is why i am not a member as i do not agree with everything they say.

Virgin Mary
23-11-2008, 11:33 AM
You clearly have not read the whole thread, As i have explained the BNP themselves are not racist, certain members of the BNP are behind the scenes i know for a face nick is after the comment he made undercover about islam.

As said yes this is 2008 but the amount of members that are becomeing BNP members has gone up. This is showing people are getting just a little bit hacked off that forigners are getting more than them. Especially this time in the credit crunch many people are being sacked from their jobs and getting replaced with forginers.

Please undertsand the BNP are not racist they maybe homophobic but they are not racist.

On the homophobic issue. but is that a good thing or a bad thing that being gay will be illigal ? I know many people who think gay people are sick and twisted. On the other side i see people who dont mind it. All the BNP are trying to do is bring back old england, No gay Less foigners.

As said everyone things the BNP wants forigners to be sent back home. This is not due all they want to do is control imergration comeing into the country.



Unlike many on this forum who straight away go RACIST because they dont have a clue what they are talking about i have 2 sides to your story.

Yes i can see why you support the BNP they do have some very good policies on this like crime. I can also see then other side in that some of the stuff they say is just wrong. That is why i am not a member as i do not agree with everything they say.
Their manifesto clearly states they plan to kick out anyone who isn't white. That's racial discrimination, unlike the Tories who simply want to cut down on immigration in general. The whole "old Britain" thing is just stupid and again attests to their hypocrisy and racism. Britain has always allowed asylum to immigrants and the culture constantly changes due to exposure to other cultures. Obviously, though, that doesn't matter to the BNP seeing as these were white people.

Hayd93
23-11-2008, 12:08 PM
Their manifesto clearly states they plan to kick out anyone who isn't white. That's racial discrimination, unlike the Tories who simply want to cut down on immigration in general. The whole "old Britain" thing is just stupid and again attests to their hypocrisy and racism. Britain has always allowed asylum to immigrants and the culture constantly changes due to exposure to other cultures. Obviously, though, that doesn't matter to the BNP seeing as these were white people.

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Can you at least read there manifesto. It clearly states that they will control immigration as they do in other country's such as newzeland.

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as stated here the BNP will not kick out any foreigners who are here legally only immigrates that are criminals or illegally in the country. What they will do is offer the opitunity for imergrents in the country to go back to there ethnic orogin with money to help then as this is the main reason they come to britain, Money. This is completely volountry though and they do not have to do this.

Virgin Mary
23-11-2008, 12:25 PM
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Can you at least read there manifesto. It clearly states that they will control immigration as they do in other country's such as newzeland.




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as stated here the BNP will not kick out any foreigners who are here legally only immigrates that are criminals or illegally in the country. What they will do is offer the opitunity for imergrents in the country to go back to there ethnic orogin with money to help then as this is the main reason they come to britain, Money. This is completely volountry though and they do not have to do this.



while spouting words like indigenous and native as if humans are some kind of flower

alexxxxx
23-11-2008, 12:50 PM
there are alot of immigrants in this country, but you will find the majority work and pay taxes.

if you cannot see that the BNP are not racist, veen by looking at their manifesto, then you're lost. and homophobia is even worse!

Throne Sofa
23-11-2008, 01:15 PM
You're an idiot then.

Edited by Alkaz (Forum Moderator): Please do not be rude to other forum members.
And you're even more of an idiot. The BNP has actually got some very intelligent members, and to claim all of them are idiots is simply untrue. Obviously they're hyped up to be far more raicst than they actually are, however, it's not all patriotic, they are a raicst party...

Edited by Wayne (Forum Moderator) Please don't be rude.

Susie Dent
23-11-2008, 05:07 PM
The BNP 21-11-2008 07:14 PM Yeah now there spreading ******* HIV around! Spongers, they where black because they where monkeys like everyone else was

Some racist BNP abused me :(

Hayd93
23-11-2008, 07:16 PM
The BNP 21-11-2008 07:14 PM Yeah now there spreading ******* HIV around! Spongers, they where black because they where monkeys like everyone else was

Some racist BNP abused me :(

As said again some BNP members are racist but the party it's self is not.

flyingbrick
23-11-2008, 08:15 PM
And you're even more of an idiot. The BNP has actually got some very intelligent members, and to claim all of them are idiots is simply untrue. Obviously they're hyped up to be far more raicst than they actually are, however, it's not all patriotic, they are a raicst party...

Edited by Wayne (Forum Moderator) Please don't be rude.


You just said it yourself: "they are a racist party."

So why the hell, am I an idiot, because I called a racist an idiot? Are racists not idiots now?!

It is my opinion that they are.

Racists are idiots. That prat at the top is a supporter of The BNP. Thus he is a racist, and an idiot too.

Kaveri
23-11-2008, 08:28 PM
Oh my lord, calling people idiots for supporting some parties' views is idiocy in itself. Like I've said before, you wouldn't call someone an idiot because they were Jewish would you?

I'm not racist and I'm not homophobic but I support the BNP's views on immigrants and everything else because the immigrants that come over here and sponge off the government deserve nothing more than deportation.

Virgin Mary
23-11-2008, 08:46 PM
The BNP 21-11-2008 07:14 PM Yeah now there spreading ******* HIV around! Spongers, they where black because they where monkeys like everyone else was

Some racist BNP abused me :(
well, that amply sums up the party and its followers

Loser
23-11-2008, 10:18 PM
Oh my lord, calling people idiots for supporting some parties' views is idiocy in itself. Like I've said before, you wouldn't call someone an idiot because they were Jewish would you?

I'm not racist and I'm not homophobic but I support the BNP's views on immigrants and everything else because the immigrants that come over here and sponge off the government deserve nothing more than deportation.

The BNP's views on how to 'fix' the country are oversimplified and unrealistic. You can't just ban people from enterring a country. You can't decide that this needs improving, so we should spend money on this. People do bad things like this, so we should change this.
It just doesn't work, if it did, it would all have already happened.

flyingbrick
23-11-2008, 11:14 PM
Oh my lord, calling people idiots for supporting some parties' views is idiocy in itself. Like I've said before, you wouldn't call someone an idiot because they were Jewish would you?

I'm not racist and I'm not homophobic but I support the BNP's views on immigrants and everything else because the immigrants that come over here and sponge off the government deserve nothing more than deportation.

What are you talking about, man?

You're argument is the sort of madness I expect from a rambling and incoherent raving lunatic.

I'm calling suporters of The BNP idiots because they are racists.........what has that got to do with Jewish people?

Why would I call a Jewish person an idiot? Why would I? They're not racists. They're very nice people, with beards and quirky hats.

You make no sense, no sense at all.



Oh my lord, calling people idiots for supporting some parties' views is idiocy in itself.

Really?

What about Robert Mugabe suporters?
Taliban suporters?

What if I were born thirty years earlier and called an Idi Amin suporter an idiot? (I'd probably shot and thrown in a pit by some government bully, actually, but thats besides the point)
Or perhaps the Nazis all those years ago..........they weren't idiots?

I'd be an idiot for calling a Nazi an idiot.


You're argument is stupid and you are stupid.

BNP suporters are racists. "Idiot" is far too kind an insult for a racist.

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