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AlexOC
12-12-2008, 09:03 PM
Well i was watching football the other day, with a few people round my house, and i heard 'C'mon he got the ball' after someone got a foul, But i hear this all the time.

It seems we've got so acustomed to this rule that if the player touches or gets the ball it isn't a foul, but how can we rely a decision on this rule soley, when its only a fact that they assume is true due to past experiences.

What if somebody comes two-foot sliding in and misstimes it, takes down the player injuring him, but may just catch the ball, even thought a pure mistake by the player and obvious foul do you assume its not a foul because they 'got the ball' i was just thinking as i think alot of fans assume theres a rule that if they get the ball its not a foul.

Geraint
12-12-2008, 09:04 PM
If he wins the ball, he has eyes for the ball not the player therefore he is not committing an offence. If he had eyes for the ball but takes the player, it is a foul.

AlexOC
12-12-2008, 09:08 PM
Well either way, i know people who think 'if he touches/gets the ball, its not a foul'

which i think is pathetic basing the decision on just a touch.

Geraint
12-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Well either way, i know people who think 'if he touches/gets the ball, its not a foul'

which i think is pathetic basing the decision on just a touch.

The aim of the game is to get the ball...

Wootzeh
12-12-2008, 09:16 PM
Well either way, i know people who think 'if he touches/gets the ball, its not a foul'

which i think is pathetic basing the decision on just a touch.
lets change the rules then eh!

Andys
12-12-2008, 09:18 PM
no it's not a foul if he clearly got the ball.
that's what you're meant to do in football isnt it?
too many soft ****es in football now a days :/

AlexOC
12-12-2008, 09:20 PM
no it's not a foul if he clearly got the ball.
that's what you're meant to do in football isnt it?
too many soft ****es in football now a days :/

Well if he comes in from the back takes the man then pushes the ball away thats a foul.

But people will say 'he got the ball'

Andys
12-12-2008, 09:21 PM
well then he didn't get the ball because the player infront of him was the one who hit the ball?

Geraint
12-12-2008, 09:22 PM
Well if he comes in from the back takes the man then pushes the ball away thats a foul.

But people will say 'he got the ball'

ball before man = no foul
man before ball = foul

how hard is it?

brandon
12-12-2008, 09:24 PM
A foul in football (soccer) is an unfair act by a player which is deemed by the referee to contravene Law 12 of the Laws of the Game

Andys
12-12-2008, 09:25 PM
ball before man = no foul
man before ball = foul

how hard is it?
yeah, that's exactly what i meant.

Disaronno
12-12-2008, 09:30 PM
If he wins the ball, he has eyes for the ball not the player therefore he is not committing an offence. If he had eyes for the ball but takes the player, it is a foul.

No comeplete answer.

If he has eye for the ball and comes in 2 footed, it is a foul wether he got the ball or not. Sometimes you dont even need to touch the player to give away a foul, depends if its a lunge or a slide, 2 footed or single footed.

If you make a one footed slide at the ball and get the ball and the player falls after, it is a good challange. If your foot is above the ball, but eyes still on the ball and you get (slightly) the ball but hit the player, it can be a red card.


And you poll isnt really very good as i stated, if i got the ball but 2 footed it is a foul, so it matters...

Geraint
12-12-2008, 10:40 PM
No comeplete answer.

If he has eye for the ball and comes in 2 footed, it is a foul wether he got the ball or not. Sometimes you dont even need to touch the player to give away a foul, depends if its a lunge or a slide, 2 footed or single footed.

If you make a one footed slide at the ball and get the ball and the player falls after, it is a good challange. If your foot is above the ball, but eyes still on the ball and you get (slightly) the ball but hit the player, it can be a red card.


And you poll isnt really very good as i stated, if i got the ball but 2 footed it is a foul, so it matters...

but them rules are just really petty and ruins the whole game of football.

Andeeh
12-12-2008, 11:17 PM
i thought any tackle from behind was a foul?

FlyingJesus
12-12-2008, 11:22 PM
i thought any tackle from behind was a foul?

That was only the case in one World Cup or something because it was utterly ridiculous

leah
13-12-2008, 01:21 AM
I thought it wasn't a foul if the player won/played the ball. If they miss the ball completely and just make contact with the player the obviously that's a foul.

AlexOC
13-12-2008, 02:10 AM
but people think in a bad tackle aslong as the player touches the ball even in the slightest that rules out that its a foul.

and i thinks its stupid how some people rely decision making on soley ball touch or not.

Bun
13-12-2008, 09:50 AM
all that matters to me is the player gets the ball first, if he breaks the other players leg afterward it doesn't bother me lol.

Throne Sofa
13-12-2008, 12:50 PM
It's a badly worded question, but generally yes, with exceptions.

e5
13-12-2008, 12:55 PM
You're not allowed to do a 2 footed tackle anyway?

If the player gets the ball, it's not a foul. I think, if they go in two-footed, they can be penalised for that anyway, despite the outcome of the player being tackled.

If they go in two-footed but getting the ball, it's up to the referee to make the final decision.

Browney
13-12-2008, 01:57 PM
eh, for me, a foul is using unneccesary force or contact to win the ball. if you play football youve got to kind off expect contact, but if you need to tackle from behind, knock the ball away first then plant the striker on his face, then for me, thats fine. but two footed tackles and just pointless contact or dangerous play is a foul.

Disaronno
14-12-2008, 08:03 PM
but them rules are just really petty and ruins the whole game of football.
Well you asked what defines a foul and i told you, wether they ruin the game in your opinion or not, they are the rules.


You're not allowed to do a 2 footed tackle anyway?

If the player gets the ball, it's not a foul. I think, if they go in two-footed, they can be penalised for that anyway, despite the outcome of the player being tackled.

If they go in two-footed but getting the ball, it's up to the referee to make the final decision.
What i said?

Loser
14-12-2008, 09:05 PM
If you get the ball before you get the man, it's a legal challenge, no matter what the referees say.

Disaronno
14-12-2008, 09:47 PM
If you get the ball before you get the man, it's a legal challenge, no matter what the referees say.

Not if its 2 footed

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