British school scraps yearly Nativity play for Asian play

[TheMovieJerk]

Not to sound offensive but a school that scraps a yearly Nativity play thats proberly been going on for 40 years for some Asian play... Now dont get me wrong but its Britian and this was in a mixed school. In my mind its wrong, but hey if your taking it the wrong way i understand.

What im getting at is Christmas here in Britian is Britians Christmas, not that other races and religions shouldnt be able too be part - Heck im all for it, and i dont mind anyone beliving in whatever but its getting stupid now.

Its like some people move into our country and have a differnt religion, or view they proberly lived in our country for several weeks then they complain about Christmas Lights and how its against there religion and they want them to be renamed lights or whatever.. something dull.

Its not that im offensive or racist in anyway, but what im saying here is you could say our country Britian is just one big tradition. However because of all these complaints from other races / religions i feel our treasured tradition is fading away, maybe to one day the point where it will be offensive to say the word "Christmas".

Does anybody have anything to say about this? Or does everyone think im just a paranoid Brit who deserves to be punched in the face. Im not the guy to give lectures, and im certainly dont want to be a complete Jerk however i find it hard to belive i will get any non threatning replys to this thread, so im just reminding people in no way is it suppose to be hateful or argumentive.

Also id love to hear from those who dont celebrate Christmas and there views, and from other religions if possible.

Thanks for reading this long post and please lets be as serious about this as possible.

[Alkaz]

I totally agree, apart of christmas is a good ole nativity play. In my town they put up special lights so that we didnt offend the other religious people. I mean how pathetic, they all celebrate their own christmas, Islam had theirn last monday I think, I remember not many of my islamic friends were in school. And they celebrate christian christmas so I dont actually think it is them that have a problem with us celebrating out own religion in our own country (well majority) But it is the society's doo gooders who think we have to be equal to everyone. They celebrate their own festivities and then ourn, we generally only celebrate ourn so who cares?

The world is going to the dogs when 'race' and 'religion' are concerned. I can see christmas being turned into comething called ''A celebration for all'' or something like that.

[deeveeNoh]

well i dont like asians so i dont care

[Virgin Mary]

What? Replacing a story about me? How dare they?

[Moh]

I think this is pathetic.

The nativity play isn't just to celebrate a stupid religion (imo, all religions are stupid), its also to get kids involved in them, build up there confidence.

Don't our years have something to do with the birth of jesus?

if thats true, then they will be wanting us to change how we calculate dates next.

[Bun]

FOR **** SAKE, IF I WENT TO ******* ***********MUSLAMISTAN I WOULD FOLLOW THEIR TRADITIONS, LIKEWISE THEY SHOULD FOLLOW OURS :@:@:@:@!






As you can see, this makes me very angry :(.

[Wayne]

Why change a traditional nativity play. How sad.

[Immenseman]

lmao, thats crazy nativity does get pretty boring though.

[Wayne]

Yeah true, but it shouldn't be changed.

[Immenseman]

Yeah, it's ludicrous that it has been changed especially for an Asian one, this is England!! Although they have to please a majority and how do we know that the majority of students aren't Asian?

[Wayne]

I suppose England is one of the countries in the world that welcomes so many different cultures and religions but something that has been done for so many years shouldn't be changed. I bet the Asian play is boring too.

[cocaine]

ummm link?

[Immenseman]

I suppose England is one of the countries in the world that welcomes so many different cultures and religions but something that has been done for so many years shouldn't be changed. I bet the Asian play is boring too.

Maybe after doing the nativity year after year for like 30 or so years they wanted to change

[Wayne]

Maybe after doing the nativity year after year for like 30 or so years they wanted to change

I suppose that could be the case.

[Inseriousity.]

I don't think it's the people complaining, it's the MPs and people with authority being scared of being branded racist. Shame really :(

There was this debate last year as some schools were scrapping navitity plays. It's ridiculous... we've probably all seen or been a part of one and it didn't offend anyone then so it shouldn't now. It's the PC England that we live in :(

[Moh]

So Asian people complain that we don't respect there views etc..

Yet they don't respect our views in our own country?

Bias much?

[Lµke]

It's not even being racist. The fact is that if you seek asylum in a country, you should adopt that countries values and traditions, if not at-least respect them.

This country is becoming more of a joke day by day.

[GommeInc]

Depends what the majority of children have as their cultural and religious background. Scrapping it for something no-one knows about is rediculous. Afterall, it's tradition in this country in some schools, and scrapping it for another tradition is just strange and very stupid when it's not an Asian country where the religion isn't going to be the same :/

[Andeeh]

nativity play is a part of christmas it gets kids involved to?
why do we have to change for them?

[TheMovieJerk]

I think England should stop letting people from foreign countrys in full stop guys, because the UK is already heavily populated and new comers only really use it to steal the special supplys, i guess Americans feel the same way about Mexicans.

Im not saying anything here, i just meen polish people and such get past our borders so easily yet they cant even speak a word of English, Pathetic ehy?

And remember the child benefit scandal? Course ya do.

Im not saying get rid off all Muslims, or all asians, im saying stop letting all other types of people in, England is certainly not American because America is a democracy, England is well.... England?

[Alkaz]

Some valid points above, I agree, they come to OUR country, why should we change our traditions and beliefs for them? I bet they wouldnt for us. Its like with benifits, they get them here but if we go over their we wouldnt get a penny, let alone money, houses and everything else. England is getting silly with things like this, we have to put a stop to it and show them who is boss, they cant do what they want like we wouldnt be able to in their home countries. How ever the people who have been in their country all their lives, dont always care about their religions celebrations, only own and think its silly when things like this happen.

[KnuxIBF]

Christmas.

[Nemo]

Some valid points above, I agree, they come to OUR country, why should we change our traditions and beliefs for them? I bet they wouldnt for us. Its like with benifits, they get them here but if we go over their we wouldnt get a penny, let alone money, houses and everything else. England is getting silly with things like this, we have to put a stop to it and show them who is boss, they cant do what they want like we wouldnt be able to in their home countries. How ever the people who have been in their country all their lives, dont always care about their religions celebrations, only own and think its silly when things like this happen.
1) You say they, and OUR, but you're talking about a race here. Im asian, but i act more english/british than most of my white friends. I'm much more hard working than a lot of the 'white people' in my school, why don't they get out of the country i was born, brought up and will most probaly live in for most of my life?
2) Benefits, oh that thing again. You do realise some asian countries (such as India) are poorer and such because the english invaded them. Dont blame them for not giving you benefits when your country invaded them.
3) Show them who is boss? Do it like they would in their home countries? IF you hadn't notice, england is becoming a lot more multi-cultural and diverse. Whilst asian countries are still heavily religious.


Although saying those things, i dont think they should have replaced it with an asian play. Just seems a bit silly, but meh.

[TheMovieJerk]

1) You say they, and OUR, but you're talking about a race here. Im asian, but i act more english/british than most of my white friends. I'm much more hard working than a lot of the 'white people' in my school, why don't they get out of the country i was born, brought up and will most probaly live in for most of my life?
2) Benefits, oh that thing again. You do realise some asian countries (such as India) are poorer and such because the english invaded them. Dont blame them for not giving you benefits when your country invaded them.
3) Show them who is boss? Do it like they would in their home countries? IF you hadn't notice, england is becoming a lot more multi-cultural and diverse. Whilst asian countries are still heavily religious.


Although saying those things, i dont think they should have replaced it with an asian play. Just seems a bit silly, but meh.
Id prefer an England thats still technically England though. Because more and more foreigners come into our country were losing two of our finest things.

1. Culture
2. Jobs

I dont go around calling people for no reason, so if they worship allah i wont call them any names, i dont mind - but if there bossing us around, then we have a problem.

My familys a little racist to be hounest, there like "If you dont like it, go back to your own country thats law and education is poor and there is a shortage of food" quite simply i like to be more sophisticated about the matter, you see i dont do all that lecturing bull crap my other family members would do, im just like "Like it, or lump it".

[Nemo]

Id prefer an England thats still technically England though. Because more and more foreigners come into our country were losing two of our finest things.

1. Culture
2. Jobs

I dont go around calling people for no reason, so if they worship allah i wont call them any names, i dont mind - but if there bossing us around, then we have a problem.

My familys a little racist to be hounest, there like "If you dont like it, go back to your own country thats law and education is poor and there is a shortage of food" quite simply i like to be more sophisticated about the matter, you see i dont do all that lecturing bull crap my other family members would do, im just like "Like it, or lump it".

1) Culture - I think its very much still there, theres still a huge thing about Christmas, i havent heard one thing about honica or ede or anything.

2) Jobs - Face it. English people dont work as horde as foreigners. Theres jobs, but only if you actually work for it, which many people don't and just blame the foreigners because they cant be bothered.

[Yoshimitsui]

This sort of thing makes me really mad, they will be changing the name of the Country next!

I mean if they don't wish to do nativity like alot of people then in my old primary school we did pantomines instead. This however is beyond belief.

[Nemo]

Theres only one reason why i dont like nativity plays.


When i was in 1, i was a sheep =[

[Janet Snakehole]

Yeah, it's ludicrous that it has been changed especially for an Asian one, this is England!! Although they have to please a majority and how do we know that the majority of students aren't Asian?

totally agree with you there :)

[Virgin Mary]

the teachers should be executed for high treason just like the traitors who want the queen removed and the people who gave america and the commonwealth independence!! rULE BRITANNIA

[AlexOC]

Pathetic!

you know they want to kill santa?

Because its offends Asians

IMO, We should be aloud santa in the UK, they can kill in in asia, but not in UK, they should go back to asia, not to be nasty.

RULE BRITANNIA, BRITANNIA RULES THE WORLD

[awelsh]

Thats pathetic, if asians dont like what we do in Britain then they can **** off, simple as.

[Technologic]

Omg lol at the reaction. We live in a mixed society, different people celebrate different things. If a majority of the schools students are not christian then why celebrate with a nativity play?

And asian is not a religion deary ;)

[Captain]

In Middlesbrough there was this big debate about the Christmas lights. Usually they say 'Merry Christmas from Middlesbrough' but the council were going to change it to 'Seasons Greetings' so it doesn't offend Muslims and that.

I think this whole thing is wrong, this is England. I think if they have a problem with the way England is ran or the English way of life, they should feel free to leave.

[Loser]

Good. Who wants to watch people a Nativity play?

PS. Is there actually a story to this or is it just the Daily Mail?

[Moh]

I think England should stop letting people from foreign countrys in full stop guys, because the UK is already heavily populated and new comers only really use it to steal the special supplys, i guess Americans feel the same way about Mexicans.

Im not saying anything here, i just meen polish people and such get past our borders so easily yet they cant even speak a word of English, Pathetic ehy?

And remember the child benefit scandal? Course ya do.

Im not saying get rid off all Muslims, or all asians, im saying stop letting all other types of people in, England is certainly not American because America is a democracy, England is well.... England?


Some valid points above, I agree, they come to OUR country, why should we change our traditions and beliefs for them? I bet they wouldnt for us. Its like with benifits, they get them here but if we go over their we wouldnt get a penny, let alone money, houses and everything else. England is getting silly with things like this, we have to put a stop to it and show them who is boss, they cant do what they want like we wouldnt be able to in their home countries. How ever the people who have been in their country all their lives, dont always care about their religions celebrations, only own and think its silly when things like this happen.

I agree, ALOT of them come here just for the benefits.

I don't mind people who come over here and make a living and get an education because they don't have opportunities like that where they're from, but when they come here, jobless, too many kids, that really pisses me off.

I personally think there should be laws about this. In order to immigrate here, they should have to work or get an education, not just live off us paying for them.

So that pretty much just lets Chinese, Japanese and Indian people in :)

[Captain]

Im just waiting for someone to accuse us all of being racist

[Minstrels]

A wee bit silly.

[Technologic]

To be honest, you're all being a tad racist

[Kardan]

If they want to celebrate their religion with school plays - then let it be; but they shouldn't have to replace other religion's celebrations for it.

[Andeeh]

I think England should stop letting people from foreign countrys in full stop guys, because the UK is already heavily populated and new comers only really use it to steal the special supplys, i guess Americans feel the same way about Mexicans.

Im not saying anything here, i just meen polish people and such get past our borders so easily yet they cant even speak a word of English, Pathetic ehy?

And remember the child benefit scandal? Course ya do.

Im not saying get rid off all Muslims, or all asians, im saying stop letting all other types of people in, England is certainly not American because America is a democracy, England is well.... England?

You have got it spot on

[Technologic]

I think England should stop letting people from foreign countrys in full stop guys, because the UK is already heavily populated and new comers only really use it to steal the special supplys, i guess Americans feel the same way about Mexicans.

Im not saying anything here, i just meen polish people and such get past our borders so easily yet they cant even speak a word of English, Pathetic ehy?

And remember the child benefit scandal? Course ya do.

Im not saying get rid off all Muslims, or all asians, im saying stop letting all other types of people in, England is certainly not American because America is a democracy, England is well.... England?
So we're allowed to have the wealth and they're not? :rolleyes: All they want is a better way of life..

[Virgin Mary]

no, you're wrong, the only funny thing is the assumption that all immigrants are some sort of asian:

FYI:
Definitions of immigrant on the Web:

Someone who has become a lawful permanent resident.

[Captain]

The majority are asian though.

[Mathew]

Britain is originally and generally a Catholic country, however with different religions and cultures coming into the country, some schools may be widely populated by these people. They will have to adapt to suit the majority, just like Habbo adapt which rare to release, to suit the majority.

I personally don't agree with getting rid of the nativity play, it's part of Christmas. I'm guessing that same school get a few weeks holiday at Christmas too?

[inVe]

What? Replacing a story about me? How dare they?

They are screwed now aren't they?


Too be honest, this countries getting worse. Why? Religion.
They're coming to this country demanding their rights. I found out one of my old teachers was sacked because he told a Islamic girl to take off some bangle. (Similar to the one in the news.)

It's bloody stupid, they come to OUR country, and expect us to bend over backwards so they can turn us into their country?

In the next few years, we'll be seeing statues of someone like Saddam in Buckingham Palace and people screaming ALALALALLALALALALALALAAL followed by multiple explosions.

Disgusting.

[Herman]

It's a shame that some of you view Asia as a continent filled with poor people where there is a 'shortage of food' and 'law and education is poor'.

I can't say it enough: I am proud to be Asian. Many Asian countries are multi-cultural and multi-religious. I can also proudly say that I live in an Asian country where the standard of living and quality of life is just as good as Britain and I cannot thank our government enough for stressing the importance of racial and religious harmony.

Honestly, I am glad I wasn't born in Britain. Britain sounds seriously messed up.

[Loser]

Honestly, I am glad I wasn't born in Britain. Britain sounds seriously messed up.

It's alright. Full of bigots, mind.

[Nemo]

It's a shame that some of you view Asia as a continent filled with poor people where there is a 'shortage of food' and 'law and education is poor'.

I can't say it enough: I am proud to be Asian. Many Asian countries are multi-cultural and multi-religious. I can also proudly say that I live in an Asian country where the standard of living and quality of life is just as good as Britain and I cannot thank our government enough for stressing the importance of racial and religious harmony.

Honestly, I am glad I wasn't born in Britain. Britain sounds seriously messed up.
I too am proud of being Asian, even though i live here and much of my culture isnt expressed anymore with me, im pretty much 'english'.


and many of you talk about religion and this and that. I doubt many of you actually practice your religion PROPERLY. Im an athiest, i got nothing to practice because i find it all bull ****, but whatever floats your boat.

The people that come into OUR country are disciplined. They practice everything they preach when it comes to religion, whilst many of us, do not. I doubt any of you christians stick to the bible, go church every sunday.

[Loser]

I've a question: How many people have gone and watched a nativity play and thought "God, I'm really glad I came and saw an excellent display of British culture."?

[Bun]

I am completely against all religion, but not against tradition. We have celebrated Christmas for very long time, and for somebody to come to our country and have the cheek to tell me it offends their religion is pathetic. I have absolutely nothing against Asians in general, but I find it disgusting that we have to change our traditions to keep others happy.

[Loser]

I am completely against all religion, but not against tradition. We have celebrated Christmas for very long time, and for somebody to come to our country and have the cheek to tell me it offends their religion is pathetic. I have absolutely nothing against Asians in general, but I find it disgusting that we have to change our traditions to keep others happy.

They weren't forced to, they chose to.

[Bun]

They weren't forced to, they chose to.
Come again?

[Casual]

Thats pathetic, if asians dont like what we do in Britain then they can **** off, simple as.


In Middlesbrough there was this big debate about the Christmas lights. Usually they say 'Merry Christmas from Middlesbrough' but the council were going to change it to 'Seasons Greetings' so it doesn't offend Muslims and that.

I think this whole thing is wrong, this is England. I think if they have a problem with the way England is ran or the English way of life, they should feel free to leave.

I agree with these we're becoming to lenient with all these people. There's so many complaints because lets relate to this woman who had what 8/9 kids was coloured and got 100k a year and a 6 bedroom mansion free because of that? If you were a white male/female you'd get jack**** from the government so you could complain that our government is racist towards white people. Im not against people coming into England but they should really adapt to our way of life and how our country has been for so many years, why just because they've decided to come to our country change our tradition? No. I do not hate coloured people infact quite a few of my friends are coloured so don't call me racist :rolleyes:

[Technologic]

I still find it hilarious how people think it's alright to give people labels....

[Hushie]

I think England should stop letting people from foreign countrys in full stop guys, because the UK is already heavily populated and new comers only really use it to steal the special supplys, i guess Americans feel the same way about Mexicans.

Im not saying anything here, i just meen polish people and such get past our borders so easily yet they cant even speak a word of English, Pathetic ehy?

And remember the child benefit scandal? Course ya do.

Im not saying get rid off all Muslims, or all asians, im saying stop letting all other types of people in, England is certainly not American because America is a democracy, England is well.... England?

I don't see how england is not a democracy....

[Virgin Mary]

A? democracy? America is a fundamentalist christian mormon country that thinks its democratic cos some dead guy wrote a bill that said you have the right to talk "/!

[PaintYourTarget]

I'm an English guy, working towards my A levels then a degree so I can join the army. I'm rather proud of my country, but I can see where this is coming from. It was most probably a school in an estate which is prominately non-English, in which case there's no need for them to do a nativity as none of them celebrate it. I know I hated nativities, actually, I hate Christmas being shoved down my throat as a whole.

But, whilst we're on free speech. I'm 17 and have a 2month old Daughter (don't worry, I work every available hour to pay for her, no benefit scrounging here) but I'm not allowed to go and see Russell Brand because I'm not 18. How come I'm allowed to raise a child, teach her whatever I believe in and whatnot but not allowed to hear what one man has to say? It's unreal.

[Loser]

I am completely against all religion, but not against tradition. We have celebrated Christmas for very long time, and for somebody to come to our country and have the cheek to tell me it offends their religion is pathetic. I have absolutely nothing against Asians in general, but I find it disgusting that we have to change our traditions to keep others happy.


Come again?

I came, I saw, I canquered and I came again.

Although there's no story attached to the original post, my assumption was that the school chose to scrap the nativity play. Whereas, I read


we have to change our traditions to keep others happy.

As it being a forced move.

[Loser]

But, whilst we're on free speech. I'm 17 and have a 2month old Daughter (don't worry, I work every available hour to pay for her, no benefit scrounging here) but I'm not allowed to go and see Russell Brand because I'm not 18. How come I'm allowed to raise a child, teach her whatever I believe in and whatnot but not allowed to hear what one man has to say? It's unreal.

Because you have to be 18 to see him. :lol:

Edited by Wayne (Forum Moderator) Please don't double post.

[PaintYourTarget]

Because you have to be 18 to see him. :lol:

Edited by Wayne (Forum Moderator) Please don't double post.
Yeah, I kinda know you have to be 18, I mentioned it in my post. It just makes no sense that I'm not allowed to hear him speak. Surely that's censorship & lack of free speech?

[Captain]

Im sure it's just to protective your oh so sensitive mind from the rude jokes he makes. :)

[drama]

Whoever created this thread (cba to look back) is the worst type of rasict, the closet rasict, if your going to put across those types of views do it outfront, don't try and be sly.

And haha at the people that say 'leave Britain', i'm sure alot of the people who celebrate whichever religion that the nativity play is being changed to have lived in Britain all their life, have a British passport and speak perfect English, yet obviously because of their beleifs angsty teenage bigots like some of you think they should go back to a place where some might never have been. Brilliant.




I think this is pathetic.

The nativity play isn't just to celebrate a stupid religion (imo, all religions are stupid), its also to get kids involved in them, build up there confidence.

Don't our years have something to do with the birth of jesus?

if thats true, then they will be wanting us to change how we calculate dates next.

then you shoudn't really mind.

[Fehm]

I too am proud of being Asian, even though i live here and much of my culture isnt expressed anymore with me, im pretty much 'english'.


and many of you talk about religion and this and that. I doubt many of you actually practice your religion PROPERLY. Im an athiest, i got nothing to practice because i find it all bull ****, but whatever floats your boat.

The people that come into OUR country are disciplined. They practice everything they preach when it comes to religion, whilst many of us, do not. I doubt any of you christians stick to the bible, go church every sunday.

I go to churche every sunday i have done since i was a kid.. which is why Christmas is a very special time. There are millions who just treat christmas as that time where presents are given and everyone's happy when actually its not. Although i go to church, i find it all a load of bull.. but dont tell my mom and dad ^^

If there was a god.. then why the hell do threads like this appear??
If there was a god.. wouldnt we have proof?
If there was a god.. why do we have to sit through hours of science exams? :rolleyes:

Its alll a load of bull and earlier this year it was on the radio.... A muslim spoke of how their getting their wives pregnant 5-6 times per person so they can over rule the british and take over england.. And therefore making yet another country into a bad one ^^

So im a bit racist on the front i guess, but if theyve come to see asylum and they are genuinly here for a good reason, for their own lives (because no one shud be unlawfully killed in my opinion) then thats ok, but if they come just to over rule another persons property.. they can get out.

[alexxxxx]

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY PROOF THAT THIS IS TRUE?

And you can be asian and british. And it's possible to be asian and not have another country to eff-off to. Alrighty?

Some of you guys are gonna be the daily mail reading nation of tomorrow.

And please learn the difference between Asylum Seeker, Immigrant, Illegal Immigrant and EU Immigrant. KTHXBI!.

[Technologic]

There are christian Asians too....

[camera]

It's a shame that some of you view Asia as a continent filled with poor people where there is a 'shortage of food' and 'law and education is poor'.

I can't say it enough: I am proud to be Asian. Many Asian countries are multi-cultural and multi-religious. I can also proudly say that I live in an Asian country where the standard of living and quality of life is just as good as Britain and I cannot thank our government enough for stressing the importance of racial and religious harmony.

Honestly, I am glad I wasn't born in Britain. Britain sounds seriously messed up.

Hi 5! Loving Singapore :love7:

Lets just say im glad that i live in Singapore where its multi-racial and people get along well with each other, Asian, Eurasian, Caucasian etc.

Also, its just a freaking Nativity play. Just sit through it. YOU WONT DIE. :/

[Bun]

I came, I saw, I canquered and I came again.

Although there's no story attached to the original post, my assumption was that the school chose to scrap the nativity play. Whereas, I read



As it being a forced move.
oh i see where you're coming from now :P.

[Fart]

I always think of it as this, your parents might say this in a different way :P
"Our country, Our Rules"

[clarissa !!]

they should gtfo if they dont like what we do