Where is the Christmas skin?

[Nick.]

With 10 days to Christmas, I was just wondering, why hasn't the Habboxforum Christmas skin been made available yet??

[Xarea]

We've had a Christmas skin?!

[Nick.]

We have a Christmas skin?!
yes... :)

[Xarea]

Screenshot? What's it look like?

[Favourtism]

As far as I know there isn't one, unless it is just last years :)

[Nick.]

I'm talking about last years...

[Titch]

Its really taking the piss now, i dont useally moan about management becuase of how much hard work they do but its really started to **** me off now, i am in a christmassy moad everywhere and this forum just ruins it :(

[Sammeth.]

Going on a forum and not seeing a graphic of a Christmas Tree hasn't exactly ruined Christmas though :P We're doing a lot for Christmas, holding competitions on the forum and on Habbo up until 24th December. Its a lot to do, and with some of the management away we try and get as much done as possible. With a task as mammoth as this one it's right to prioritise, and although a Christmas skin might be nice its hardly going to ruin anyones Christmas - Habbox are getting into the Christmas spirit regardless :)!

[luce]

To be fair it's nothing to get stresssed about there is a massive amount of events and stuff going on at HxL so i think that's better ten staring at a skin :)!

[Recursion]

Even though you can't find the skin, at least add the forums!

[Nick.]

Even though you can't find the skin, at least add the forums!
Why did nvrspk delete his post saying he couldn't find it?

[Favourtism]

Its really taking the piss now, i dont useally moan about management becuase of how much hard work they do but its really started to **** me off now, i am in a christmassy moad everywhere and this forum just ruins it :(
That's quite harsh. Theres a lot of stuff going on for christmas this year and for an example, I don't think there was an xmas layout last year on the site, just a different banner. A lot of effort has gone into all of the things ;)

Also, essentially, I am the only guy who makes the skins at the moment (in terms of coding the skin in acp etc and not designing all of the images) and I have been very busy, ill/away bits etc. We hope to be getting a small christmas touch to some of the skins very, shortly :)

[Titch]

That's quite harsh. Theres a lot of stuff going on for christmas this year and for an example, I don't think there was an xmas layout last year on the site, just a different banner. A lot of effort has gone into all of the things ;)

Also, essentially, I am the only guy who makes the skins at the moment (in terms of coding the skin in acp etc and not designing all of the images) and I have been very busy, ill/away bits etc. We hope to be getting a small christmas touch to some of the skins very, shortly :)

I didnt mean it to be quite so harsh, its just everywhere i see christmassy stuff (got a 10ft tree in my room) and this is only place dont see any, if we cant have a skin could we atleast have a christmas bannar, i just want a christmas feel to forum. Didnt mean for it to come across and harsh as it did, i know alot is being put on by all departments.

[AlexOC]

!! :@

Why was it not put on, on the sunday updates.

[Titch]

!! :@

Why was it not put on, on the sunday updates.

we havnt even had any of them for 2 weeks! (for the forum) but thats becuase most management is away i think.

[Favourtism]

!! :@

Why was it not put on, on the sunday updates.
With Nvrspk4 and Mr.OSH being away site/forum updates are very hard to do ;)

[GommeInc]

This Christmas seems a bit sucky full stop. My decorations aren't up and aload of places near me aren't doing alot either :S HxF is just following popular trends of not doing alot.

[AlexOC]

This Christmas seems a bit sucky full stop. My decorations aren't up and aload of places near me aren't doing alot either :S HxF is just following popular trends of not doing alot.

I think christmas is dead this year.

My lights arent up yet, no one near us are, it just dosent feel like christmas.

[joshuar]

Finally the storm of christmas is dying down, it's way too overrated anyway!

Which reminds me I might have something for you guys....

[AlexOC]

Finally the storm of christmas is dying down, it's way too overrated anyway!

Which reminds me I might have something for you guys....

WHAT!?

[Hazza]

Christmas used to be good when people didn't stress over it and everyone wasn't greedy. Christmas has been crap lately, mainly because of people's greed and lack of respect for Christmas, why we actually celebrate it.

[jackass]

So basically, you make a Halloween one, a Valentines one etc. but not a Christmas one. :S

I can see the logic in that! :P

[Hazza]

Time is a big factor, forums seem to be busy around xmas.

[Alkaz]

its part of the tradition like VIP and the subforum :( Hx Santa hasnt even been around much, we was only saying at school today it doesnt feel like christmas like it normally does. + Josh whats the thing?

[Hazza]

its part of the tradition like VIP and the subforum :( Hx Santa hasnt even been around much, we was only saying at school today it doesnt feel like christmas like it normally does. + Josh whats the thing?
Too right, I break up on Wednesday and we are all like what for? Christmas doesn't feel like Christmas this year... (but it didn't last year tbh)...

[Sammeth.]

its part of the tradition like VIP and the subforum :( Hx Santa hasnt even been around much, we was only saying at school today it doesnt feel like christmas like it normally does. + Josh whats the thing?

If you followed our threads on the Christmas Celebrations you would know Habbox Santa was kidnapped :'(!!!!

[Hazza]

And also guys, Christmas isn't about a skin on a HabboxForum. They don't have to do one just because its Christmas. :P

[Titch]

If you followed our threads on the Christmas Celebrations you would know Habbox Santa was kidnapped :'(!!!!

where i threads, never noticed em lol :P Link me so i cn catch up.

[Favourtism]

So basically, you make a Halloween one, a Valentines one etc. but not a Christmas one. :S

I can see the logic in that! :P
It depends on time we have etc. Also, the Valentines one is now permanent and when me and today made it it was originally just for Pink Skin, not valentines anyway :p


If you followed our threads on the Christmas Celebrations you would know Habbox Santa was kidnapped :'(!!!!
I blame Bomb-Head :(

[Recursion]

And also guys, Christmas isn't about a skin on a HabboxForum. They don't have to do one just because its Christmas. :P

Its on their admin cp, they just need to enable it, same for the forums >_<

[Hazza]

How do you know it is? :P

[Recursion]

Because they don't delete skins, usually they are the same themes each year I think unless they deleted them :S

[Plank]

They've left it a bit late for it now anyway, there's only just over a week left.

[Tintinnabulate]

Because they don't delete skins, usually they are the same themes each year I think unless they deleted them :S

I am sure they do delete skins / files as the best halloween skin from 2004 has gone.

[Plank]

I just looked back and in 2007, it was released on the 16th, and in 2006 it was released on the 22nd.

Both years there were threads with people wanting a Christmas skin.

[Recursion]

They've left it a bit late for it now anyway, there's only just over a week left.

Umm New years is part of Christmas in most people's eyes, so at least 2 weeks left, half the month.

[Jordy]

With Nvrspk4 and Mr.OSH being away site/forum updates are very hard to do ;)I do get the impression that with out Nvrspk4 the site falls apart, Habbox was rather lacking during the week of the American Elections because he was involved, and now 15 days into Decemember there hasnt been many changes to HabboxForum for Christmas.

Is nvrspk4 the only one with power or something, I some how suspect that being as democratic as the management are, everything has to be run through him. Can't somebody step in for him or something as it seems everything goes with him when he goes, too much power and responsiblity maybe?

I think we all know that some of these things can be done at the touch of a few buttons and it's getting a little tiredsome reading the tedious replies from the management. I'd also appreciate it if a senior Habbox staff memeber didn't quote my post and say anything along the lines of, "We're busy at Christmas for various reasons" or "No don't get expectant" or "Keep your eyes peeled"

[Recursion]

Why can't Jin or Professor-Alex do it?

It seems actually pretty fricken stupid to be quite honest, you should hire some more staff.

[Titch]

Why can't Jin or Professor-Alex do it?

It seems actually pretty fricken stupid to be quite honest, you should hire some more staff.

To be fair to jin, he is working hard with habboxforum server issues atm i think after the site going down earlyier. And professor alex has anuf on his plate having to do extra work becuase several smods r away.

[Tintinnabulate]

Why can't Jin or Professor-Alex do it?

It seems actually pretty fricken stupid to be quite honest, you should hire some more staff.

Jin is the techincal manager and not a general admin anymore. Besides he has a job and university so I am sure he has more important stuff to do. Just be happy that he fixes the forum when it breaks or you would probably experience more downtime.

[Favourtism]

Without Mr.OSH and Nvrspk4 the site does suffer. However, obviously their exams come first.

Most things have to go through nvrspk4 and I don't really see a problem with that.

Yes they can be done quick but for example:
Content doesn't have an Assistant Manager so it suffers without Mr.OSH. General Management do the forum updates now too.


I do get the impression that with out Nvrspk4 the site falls apart, Habbox was rather lacking during the week of the American Elections because he was involved, and now 15 days into Decemember there hasnt been many changes to HabboxForum for Christmas.

Is nvrspk4 the only one with power or something, I some how suspect that being as democratic as the management are, everything has to be run through him. Can't somebody step in for him or something as it seems everything goes with him when he goes, too much power and responsiblity maybe?

I think we all know that some of these things can be done at the touch of a few buttons and it's getting a little tiredsome reading the tedious replies from the management. I'd also appreciate it if a senior Habbox staff memeber didn't quote my post and say anything along the lines of, "We're busy at Christmas for various reasons" or "No don't get expectant" or "Keep your eyes peeled"


Why can't Jin or Professor-Alex do it?

It seems actually pretty fricken stupid to be quite honest, you should hire some more staff.
Habbox could hire 100 more staff. It would still need General Management to be here for things to be done as they are in charge of Forum Updates. I understand it may sound stupid but would you choose a skin over live influencial exams?

[Bomb-Head]

I do get the impression that with out Nvrspk4 the site falls apart, Habbox was rather lacking during the week of the American Elections because he was involved, and now 15 days into Decemember there hasnt been many changes to HabboxForum for Christmas.

Is nvrspk4 the only one with power or something, I some how suspect that being as democratic as the management are, everything has to be run through him. Can't somebody step in for him or something as it seems everything goes with him when he goes, too much power and responsiblity maybe?

I think we all know that some of these things can be done at the touch of a few buttons and it's getting a little tiredsome reading the tedious replies from the management. I'd also appreciate it if a senior Habbox staff memeber didn't quote my post and say anything along the lines of, "We're busy at Christmas for various reasons" or "No don't get expectant" or "Keep your eyes peeled"


Well of course things have to run through Nvr - he is the General Manaer :S When he is away, the does delegate tasks out to other members of Management meaning everything does (and has) run smoothly but obiously big things such as a brand new forum skin would just have to wait until he is back.

@tamwu: It's not as simple as 'pressing a button in the ACP because it's still there from last year' because the fact is that for whatever reason, it's not there.

[Recursion]

It is that simple. The theme is there, you just have to click "Show to members"!.

To be honest, out of most of the Administrators here, the only active one I HAVE seen is Jin and I commend him for juggling HXF issues with University etc...

[Bomb-Head]

It is that simple. The theme is there, you just have to click "Show to members"!.

No, as I've just clearly said, it's not there or it would have been made public a while ago I would imagine..

[Recursion]

Why isn't it there? What idiot would go and delete the Christmas skin knowing that a new one couldn't/wouldn't be made?

The one who did delete it shouldn't be an Administrator without good cause.

To be honest, I commend you lot aswell, you take the firing line for comments from us for other staff's **** ups. All we want is a straight answer as to why there is no Christmas skin/forums.

I know for a fact, even if the forums for Christmas didn't exist, they would take a maximum of 5 minutes to setup.

[Favourtism]

It is that simple. The theme is there, you just have to click "Show to members"!.

To be honest, out of most of the Administrators here, the only active one I HAVE seen is Jin and I commend him for juggling HXF issues with University etc...
I think B-H knows what to do :p


Why isn't it there? What idiot would go and delete the Christmas skin knowing that a new one couldn't/wouldn't be made?

The one who did delete it shouldn't be an Administrator without good cause.

To be honest, I commend you lot aswell, you take the firing line for comments from us for other staff's **** ups. All we want is a straight answer as to why there is no Christmas skin/forums.

I know for a fact, even if the forums for Christmas didn't exist, they would take a maximum of 5 minutes to setup.
Your just getting plain rude now. How did they know last january that a new one wouldn't be made?

The straight answer is that the old one cannot be found and I have been too busy to make a New Christmas one.

It isn't my place to answer about the forums but it will most likely be as nvr is away and General Management make decisions for the forum as there is no longer Forum Managers.

[Bomb-Head]

Why isn't it there? What idiot would go and delete the Christmas skin knowing that a new one couldn't/wouldn't be made?

The one who did delete it shouldn't be an Administrator without good cause.

Well it may have been removed for a whole lot of reasons but I only became an Administrator in September so I don't know the specifics - I'm sure it hasn't been deleted, maybe the XML has been downloaded to another Administrators computer and then removed from the ACP or something like that.


To be honest, I commend you lot aswell, you take the firing line for comments from us for other staff's **** ups. All we want is a straight answer as to why there is no Christmas skin/forums.

Lol thanks :p


I know for a fact, even if the forums for Christmas didn't exist, they would take a maximum of 5 minutes to setup.

I'm sure a good quality skin would take longer than 5 minutes :P but it would be silly to start creating a new skin only for Nvr to return and say he has the old one. I have brought this up with the General Management but we will just have to wait for Nvr because it seems he is the only one who knows where the old Christmas skin is / if it even exists anymore.

[Recursion]

Favouritism:
When did I ever say anything about you making one? You may design the skins but I wasn't launching an attack at you.

Why would they delete the Christmas skin in January, any fool would keep the skin at least disabled until the next year incase a new one wasn't made.

B-H, Skins take hours, days or weeks to perfect, but a couple of Christmas forums take 5 minutes, im sure most people would be happy with a couple of forums, let alone a skin :P

[Rapidshare]

I recken Jin should do it, he like the top man blud

[Plank]

Does anyone know when nvrspk4 will actually be back so we have an idea of when (if) updates will happen?

[Recursion]

Short answer: They aren't going to happen

[Favourtism]

Favouritism:
When did I ever say anything about you making one? You may design the skins but I wasn't launching an attack at you.

Why would they delete the Christmas skin in January, any fool would keep the skin at least disabled until the next year incase a new one wasn't made.

B-H, Skins take hours, days or weeks to perfect, but a couple of Christmas forums take 5 minutes, im sure most people would be happy with a couple of forums, let alone a skin :P
I think some skins were deleted to be moved to the test forum but never got moved.

It takes ages to design and code a skin then make the hundreds of tiny images and icons needed for it to be releasable :p

[today]

I think some skins were deleted to be moved to the test forum but never got moved.

It takes ages to design and code a skin then make the hundreds of tiny images and icons needed for it to be releasable :p
You can make a good respectable style in 24hrs.

[Bomb-Head]

Does anyone know when nvrspk4 will actually be back so we have an idea of when (if) updates will happen?

It should be sometime tonight/tomorrow but who knows - something might happen which delays his return.

[Favourtism]

You can make a good respectable style in 24hrs.
Not with all the icons custom and good, aswell as keeping up with other responsibilities.

[Alkaz]

If you followed our threads on the Christmas Celebrations you would know Habbox Santa was kidnapped :'(!!!!
Oh ye, shame nvr n santa went away togeather :P where is the comp to find him?

[today]

Not with all the icons custom and good, aswell as keeping up with other responsibilities.
Yeah you can, i have done before, and i know others who have.
:$

[Invent]

Yeah you can, i have done before, and i know others who have.
:$

I'm with you girlfriend.

Edited by Hayd93 (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly

[today]

I'm with you girlfriend.
I love you too boyfriend.

Edited by Hayd93 (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly

[Recursion]

Im with you Invent, GANGBANG FTW

Edited by Hayd93 (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly

[Tintinnabulate]

Why isn't it there? What idiot would go and delete the Christmas skin knowing that a new one couldn't/wouldn't be made?

The one who did delete it shouldn't be an Administrator without good cause.

To be honest, I commend you lot aswell, you take the firing line for comments from us for other staff's **** ups. All we want is a straight answer as to why there is no Christmas skin/forums.

I know for a fact, even if the forums for Christmas didn't exist, they would take a maximum of 5 minutes to setup.

You are such an annoying person. WOW there is no christmas skin? Big deal ...
Its only a bloody skin.
If everyone was like you, they would be moaning as to why there isn't a skin for every damn occasion. Stop acting like a spoilt brat.
And lets see you make a decent christmas skin with good graphics in 5 minutes .... (and not install one someone else made).

[Recursion]

FOR **** SAKE LISTEN TO ME.


I DID NOT SAY MAKE A SKIN IN 5 MINUTES, I SAID FORUM, GET YOUR BLOODY EYES TESTED.

-rep for you mr.




Edited by Yoshimitsui (Forum Super Moderator): please do not be rude.

[Samishlol]

Christmas is just crap this year. It doesn't feel like christmas at all

[Tintinnabulate]

FOR **** SAKE LISTEN TO ME.


I DID NOT SAY MAKE A SKIN IN 5 MINUTES, I SAID FORUM, GET YOUR BLOODY EYES TESTED.

-rep for you mr.



I can say the same about you when you said "It is that simple. The theme is there, you just have to click "Show to members"!." when Bomb-head explained that it ISNT there the post before.

Get your eyes tested.
And LOL at your lame revenge rep. Seriously stop moaning as its just a forum. You obviously dont seem to have ever ran a popular forum or you wouldnt be moaning.

[Recursion]

Umm he said that after I said what I did...

[Tintinnabulate]

Umm he said that after I said what I did...

Bomb-Head: @tamwu: It's not as simple as 'pressing a button in the ACP because it's still there from last year' because the fact is that for whatever reason, it's not there.

You: It is that simple. The theme is there, you just have to click "Show to members"!.

Post #42 and #43

[Hayd93]

Going on a forum and not seeing a graphic of a Christmas Tree hasn't exactly ruined Christmas though :P We're doing a lot for Christmas, holding competitions on the forum and on Habbo up until 24th December. Its a lot to do, and with some of the management away we try and get as much done as possible. With a task as mammoth as this one it's right to prioritise, and although a Christmas skin might be nice its hardly going to ruin anyones Christmas - Habbox are getting into the Christmas spirit regardless :)!

Thats all well and good, The thing is many of the users dont go on habbo at all. I for one don't and many other users and staff dont

[Sammeth.]

"We're doing a lot for Christmas, holding competitions on the forum and on Habbo up until 24th December."

It's the taking part and the Christmassy feel to it all that makes it worthwhile, not just the prizes.

[Ajthedragon]

Isn't VIP enough?

[Imosae]

Theres no point installing the skin now it's only next week

[Rapidshare]

Suprised there no christmas theme at all :rolleyes:


where are the ******* forums btw? it only 9 days and 11 hours left

[Recursion]

The forums, even if not in the ACP, can be made in 5 minutes.

Sorry about being an ass earlier guys.

[Nick.]

Suprised there no christmas theme at all :rolleyes:


where are the ******* forums btw? it only 9 days and 11 hours left
8 days 4 hours*

omg im so excited!

[Reflex]

I think christmas is dead this year.

My lights arent up yet, no one near us are, it just dosent feel like christmas.

Same here, an xmas skin would be great though no matter.

[The Professor]

I do get the impression that with out Nvrspk4 the site falls apart, Habbox was rather lacking during the week of the American Elections because he was involved, and now 15 days into Decemember there hasnt been many changes to HabboxForum for Christmas.

Is nvrspk4 the only one with power or something, I some how suspect that being as democratic as the management are, everything has to be run through him. Can't somebody step in for him or something as it seems everything goes with him when he goes, too much power and responsiblity maybe?

I think we all know that some of these things can be done at the touch of a few buttons and it's getting a little tiredsome reading the tedious replies from the management. I'd also appreciate it if a senior Habbox staff memeber didn't quote my post and say anything along the lines of, "We're busy at Christmas for various reasons" or "No don't get expectant" or "Keep your eyes peeled"

Something I often find myself wondering actually. nvr was kinda the "understudy" to MAD if you like; when he was away nvr would take over and run the place as GM until he got back and that held everyone together. As far as I know when MAD resigned and nvr got GM no-one really filled in nvr's role as stand-in. And of course, most things have to be approved by the GM and usually done by the GM (which isn't a problem in itself if the GM is around) so when there isn't a GM everything comes to a grinding halt. Maybe that needs to be rectified.

@Tom: Neither Jin or Myself can do it without approval from the GM first. Trust me, I've tried to bypass that before and didn't hear the last of it for a week :P

Edit: Woah missed the second page so most of what I said has been said before, but you get the gist :P

[Favourtism]

I always thought of Mr.OSH as the understudy but he was away too :p

[The Professor]

As far as I know OSH is very much site based these days, this thread is about stuff on the forum I think :P Either way I know I haven't asked him about doing stuff on the forums, so if he is it's the first I've known about it!

[Bomb-Head]

I always thought of Mr.OSH as the understudy but he was away too :p
He longer has an 'understudy' with there being three AGM's now (that was when it was just MAD and Nvr mainly) we all just do our own bits :P

[Yonder]

One of the AGM should be giving GM rights (as in approving stuff, responsibilities) when nvr goes away. Just one of them should get this as if they all had it then there would be a lot of confusion.

[Favourtism]

As far as I know OSH is very much site based these days, this thread is about stuff on the forum I think :P Either way I know I haven't asked him about doing stuff on the forums, so if he is it's the first I've known about it!
It's probably just because I get in a habit of PMing him whenevr I PM nvr :p

Forum falls under Community rather than Content doesn't it.

[Ostinato]

Something I often find myself wondering actually. nvr was kinda the "understudy" to MAD if you like; when he was away nvr would take over and run the place as GM until he got back and that held everyone together. As far as I know when MAD resigned and nvr got GM no-one really filled in nvr's role as stand-in. And of course, most things have to be approved by the GM and usually done by the GM (which isn't a problem in itself if the GM is around) so when there isn't a GM everything comes to a grinding halt. Maybe that needs to be rectified.

@Tom: Neither Jin or Myself can do it without approval from the GM first. Trust me, I've tried to bypass that before and didn't hear the last of it for a week :P

Edit: Woah missed the second page so most of what I said has been said before, but you get the gist :P

That was a really good point actually. I must admit, although there are assistants who deal with their own bits like Bomb-Head said it appears that there isn't anyone who stands in for nvr when he gets away.

+rep

[The Professor]

It's probably just because I get in a habit of PMing him whenevr I PM nvr :p

Forum falls under Community rather than Content doesn't it.

Nope not really. The community AGM was in charge of the habbo based departments (Events, comps, productions etc) while content focuses on the site. The closest we have to a forum agm is David as staff editor but he's much more BTS admin than front-end decisions. Maybe either an AGM (Forum) or giving David more power over the running of the forum might take some weight of nvr while he's around and stop things like this when he isn't. Bare in mind I'm writing this off the top of my head so continutiy won't be the best :P

[Favourtism]

Nope not really. The community AGM was in charge of the habbo based departments (Events, comps, productions etc) while content focuses on the site. The closest we have to a forum agm is David as staff editor but he's much more BTS admin than front-end decisions. Maybe either an AGM (Forum) or giving David more power over the running of the forum might take some weight of nvr while he's around and stop things like this when he isn't. Bare in mind I'm writing this off the top of my head so continutiy won't be the best :P
Same. I just associate content with the site and the forum is a community etc so yeah.

:p

[Recursion]

OSH used to be really active around here, it was amazing how quickly he became staff after joining actually. He was a fantastic guy

[Favourtism]

OSH used to be really active around here, it was amazing how quickly he became staff after joining actually. He was a fantastic guy
He still is ;) He's just bust with exams.

[Yonder]

OSH used to be really active around here, it was amazing how quickly he became staff after joining actually. He was a fantastic guy

Lol your speaking about him in past tense like he is dead lol, like Tom said he is away with exams.

[nvrspk4]

Hey,

So first, there is a thread in Community Announcements, which I made before even reading this thread.

As for how nobody stood in for me, this was basically freak happenstance. I had everything very carefully planned out, I had my jobs redistributed among my AGMs (anyone notice how VIP has still been getting done? credit to Bomb-Head.) I didn't just stop the presses because I left. Normally Bomb-Head would step in as I did for MAD but he's just gotten used to his job and Sammeth is getting used to his job so asking them to step in as temp GM would be a bit much right now. Mr.OSH was the other one who was taking exams, so I had carefully planned everything out, basically doling out my responsibilities. However at the last minute this all changed because OSH got sick and was having a really hard time, so Sam and Bomb-Head had to compensate, which simply resulted in things not getting done. It was kind of freak happenstance, ill-timed sicknesses (no pun intended) exams, and trips kind of converged to make everything blow up.

As far as the forum, been added now, sorry about that. I know its really late but better late than never. As for the skin, we honestly couldn't find it. We're still trying, though its late, it might be nice to have it to New Year's at least. As for why we deleted it, when we switched versions I believe it was lost. I really wasn't involved in skinning before so I don't know exactly what happened to it but even if we do find it we need to make modifications to the new forum version. We don't have adequate resources to code it from scratch as we don't really have a dedicated skinner since Joshuar resigned.

That being said, I want to stress that its not OSH or David or Sam's fault that things didn't get done, it was mostly me not being able to get on to replan things because of exams and not having internet access over the trip, they did the best they could. As far as democracy, what you have to understand is that Sammeth and Bomb-Head are still pretty new to their jobs, they are now comfortable with their roles but its still some time until they're very comfortable making decisions a little outside my scope. When I stood in for MAD I had years in the management to be able to not mess things up (too much) and eventually yes Bomb-Head and Sammeth will be able to step up and act as an acting GM, however at the moment Mr.OSH was the most experienced but was away, so it was necessary to have a kind of temporary, keep things running type deal which they did amazingly, better than I could have ever asked them to.

So basically, Christmas sucking comes down to me, so sorry about that guys :P

[Recursion]

Thanks babes, luv ya xoxoxoxox

[Titch]

Yeh, The christmas forums atleast add a bit of cheer. :D

[Plank]

I see a new xmas banner on the blue skin.

[Recursion]

Retro Blue owns.

[--ss--]

Doesn't feel like Christmas at all without the Xmas skin, my Christmas is now ruined :(

[Yonder]

Doesn't feel like Christmas at all without the Xmas skin, my Christmas is now ruined :(

Exaggeration much?

[CHA!NGANG]

The Blue Skin has been made Christmassy if thats a word. :D

[Alkaz]

In nvrspks announcment in acheivments or w.e its called he said they are trying to find it, so we will have it soon hopefully.