This okay?

[Cylinder]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2irsyol.png

The graphics card is integrated, but I don't want it for heavy gaming or anything.. just average computer use.

Is the processor okay? I can upgrade for £19 to a Intel Pentium Dual Core E2200.

Is the ram okay or would 4gb not be noticeable and I would be better of with 3gb?

The PSU i can upgrade to 500W for £10 or is 450 okay?

All together (including VAT and Delivery) it's £317.35.

Thanks. :)

[Recursion]

4GB from 3GB is noticable, its when you have 8GB from 4GB that it isn't really.

The CPU isn't that great if im honest, I would stick to a 500w PSU for future upgrades.

[Cylinder]

Should I upgrade for £20 then? I don't want some big system, it's only for home use and general browsing internet, downloading etc.

Also, side note. How do I connect a monitor to a TV? Some sort of lead I need I take and were do I connect it (back of my TV > ?). Cos would I need a special graphics card or does it go from monitor?

Thanks

[Recursion]

Yeh you should upgrade, its only £20 to upgrade.

Im not sure what lead you would need, what socket does your TV have? Also it would depend what your graphics card had on it, DVI or VGA

[Cylinder]

Oki, I'll upgrade it. :)

Ummm, the sources it has is:

TV
DTV
EXT-1
EXT-2
FAV
HDMI-1
HDM-2
YPbPr

Not sure what FAV is, YPbPr I use for my Xbox.

DTV is freeview and EXT is scart leads.

Could I connect it via hdmi? Or would I need a hdmi monitor?

Thanks.

[Recursion]

You will need a HDMI - DVI (or VGAm depending on your graphics card) lead.

Im guessing you want to hook up 2 monitors to this computer, your TV and a monitor?

[Cylinder]

You will need a HDMI - DVI (or VGAm depending on your graphics card) lead.

Im guessing you want to hook up 2 monitors to this computer, your TV and a monitor?
Yeah two monitors, I'm not that fussed if I can't do it but it would be nice.

[Recursion]

You can if you add a proper graphics card to it instead of the integrated graphics. You would then need, as said, a VGA or DVI to HDMI cable depending on the graphics card input. You plug the TV and the Monitor both into the graphics card then (graphics cards today have 2 ports)

[Cylinder]

Ah, okay. I'll consider doing that then, just nice to know. :)

The system I posted first with the different CPU and 500W PSU is okay then? For the price and everything or can you recommend something else.

Thanks.

[scottish]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2irsyol.png

Standard PSU sounds budget.

I'd suggest a quad or decent core 2 dual processor

ram is fine but you could get 800mhz or better

other than that its fine if you don't need gaming etc.

[Cylinder]

Standard PSU sounds budget.

I'd suggest a quad or decent core 2 dual processor

ram is fine but you could get 800mhz or better

other than that its fine if you don't need gaming etc.
Okay, thanks. :)

Which is the best out of these two?
Link (http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=5C74&CategorySelectedId=11101&NavigationKey=11101,4294953510,426860000,50900000)
Link (http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=52WY&tduid=2ac166983ef0c4e4d3d8aaae489450d2)

Second one is £450 on Amazon with Wireless keyboard and wired mouse.

[Robbie]

The second one

[scottish]

2nd one has better processor, but amd if you want quad core go for intel :P

[Cylinder]

2nd one has better processor, but amd if you want quad core go for intel :P
Is there any base units like that which you can recommend?

Between £250-300 mark pref.

Thanks

[scottish]

I doubt custom building would be recommended under that budget, but you could try dell etc, does it need monitor etc.

[Cylinder]

I doubt custom building would be recommended under that budget, but you could try dell etc, does it need monitor etc.
Naww, no monitor is needed.

It doesn't needed to be custom built, but I would just like it to have 4gb ram, a decent processor and an average graphics card. Doesn't need to have an OS if that cuts it down (seen it did on Overclockers, I think) All the rest can be standard. I tried dell before and got something for around £400 with a monitor, I'll have another look.

[Flisker]

I would say go to Dell and make one. I would choose out of them 2 you posted but I despise AMD and ATI. It's just a hate passion I have.

[Cylinder]

I've seen this on scan at 252.99



400W EZCool pPFC Power Supply AMD & P4 Ready 8cm Fan
Gigabyte GA-EP45C-DS3R, iP45 Express, S775, PCI-E 2.0 x16, DDR2/3 1066/1333/1600, SATA II/RAID, ATX
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, SLACR G0, S775, 2.40 GHz 1066MHz 8MB Cache, 9x Multiplier, Retail
Xclio 6010 Black (Silver Alumin Front) Midi Tower Case w/o PSU Hi End

It doesn't give any more information, can't seem to find any anyway..

I'll try to find out more, but is it looking ok for the price?


edit;
uhhhhh, i'm not even sure it's a full pc. i think it might just be parts? x_x.

http://www.scan.co.uk/TodayOnly/Index.aspx

scroll down a bit, it does show it like a pc though lol.
helps please :D

[N!ck]

You wold need to get RAM, hard drive(s), optical drive(s) and a graphics card with that barebones system.

[Cylinder]

:[[[. I aint even going to try to custom build lol.. ahh, least I know a little bit more of what I'm looking for now. ^^; I should get something I spose.

[Soy]

It looks fine for simple tasks and such. You wont need a dedicated graphics card for what your going to use it for.

[Cylinder]

AMD Phenom X3 Triple Core 8650 2.3GHz Processor
AMD 690V Motherboard
ATi Radeon X1250 Graphics (SMA)
4GB PC2-5300 667MHz DDR2 Memory
750GB Serial ATA II Hard Drive
20x Serial ATA DVDRW
High Definition 8 Channel 7.1 Sound
1000MBps LAN
Zen Midi Tower Chassis with PSU

£293 from www.aria.co.uk (http://www.aria.co.uk)

I think thats pretty good for the price, its got the ram and HD size more than I need.

They have another;



AMD Phenom X3 Triple Core 8450+ 2.1GHz Processor
AMD 690V Motherboard
ATi Radeon X1250 Graphics (SMA)
4GB PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2 Memory
500GB Serial ATA II Hard Drive
20x Serial ATA DVDRW
High Definition 5.1 Sound
1000MBps LAN
Zen Midi Tower Chassis with PSU

Not sure if the processor is as good but the HD and ram again is good for me.


This one is £264 so for the extra £30, I'd rather go for a better processor (if there is much of a difference).

Would the graphics card on them let me connect it to my TV? What wire would I need? ?? > hdmi

[N!ck]

AMD Phenom X3 Triple Core 8650 2.3GHz Processor
AMD 690V Motherboard
ATi Radeon X1250 Graphics (SMA)
4GB PC2-5300 667MHz DDR2 Memory
750GB Serial ATA II Hard Drive
20x Serial ATA DVDRW
High Definition 8 Channel 7.1 Sound
1000MBps LAN
Zen Midi Tower Chassis with PSU

£293 from www.aria.co.uk (http://www.aria.co.uk)

I think thats pretty good for the price, its got the ram and HD size more than I need.

They have another;



AMD Phenom X3 Triple Core 8450+ 2.1GHz Processor
AMD 690V Motherboard
ATi Radeon X1250 Graphics (SMA)
4GB PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2 Memory
500GB Serial ATA II Hard Drive
20x Serial ATA DVDRW
High Definition 5.1 Sound
1000MBps LAN
Zen Midi Tower Chassis with PSU

Not sure if the processor is as good but the HD and ram again is good for me.


This one is £264 so for the extra £30, I'd rather go for a better processor (if there is much of a difference).

Would the graphics card on them let me connect it to my TV? What wire would I need? ?? > hdmi

Yeah, it's good for the price.

[Robbie]

Yeah they are good for the prices. Google the GFX card name to see if it has a HDMI connection.

[Cylinder]

Think I'll get that then.. it's better than my laptop atm and theres nothing wrong with it. I've had it for 2 years now though, only got 1gb ram and the processor is 2.01 (thats all I go of, lmao).

So it's considerably better and my laptop isn't slow, it's fast enough for what I want it to do.

They don't supply OS's with them systems but you can buy one, they only send you the disc though.

I've reinstalled XP on my laptop plenty of times, but thats after a reformat. Would I just pop the disc in and it would start up with the installation? I presume it would lol.

Is the graphics card standard? It's not very suckish is it, like I said earlier it doesn't need to be great for gaming but at least acceptable for something low-end of gaming, eg The Sims or something.

Would I also be able to connect it to my TV or is it integreted? Or can I connect it even if it is integrated?

edit;

I seen this;

http://forums.pcpitstop.com/index.php?showtopic=143714

The guy says it's got HDMI output, so would I need HDMI>HDMI wire? Or would it connect via something else to my TV?

[N!ck]

The x1250 is an integrated graphics card as far as i can tell. Therefore, most likely VGA connection.

[Cylinder]

The x1250 is an integrated graphics card as far as i can tell. Therefore, most likely VGA connection.
I read about and they said it's integrated as well.

So it would be VGA > HDMI cable for my TV, what about my monitor? Or could I not have two running at the same time, if I get a monitor which is VGA, I take it its VGA > VGA etc.

Nick, is the graphics card like average? Although it's integrated and such would it be acceptable for general PC usage because some sites I've read they say it's sucky, but I don't need it for hardcore gaming or anything, watching videos, browsing etc is only thing I'd need it for..

Would it be simple to change from integrated to dedicated in the future? Say if it isn't upto what I need it for, or would I have to change something else?

Thankssss. :D

[N!ck]

I read about and they said it's integrated as well.

So it would be VGA > HDMI cable for my TV, what about my monitor? Or could I not have two running at the same time, if I get a monitor which is VGA, I take it its VGA > VGA etc.

Nick, is the graphics card like average? Although it's integrated and such would it be acceptable for general PC usage because some sites I've read they say it's sucky, but I don't need it for hardcore gaming or anything, watching videos, browsing etc is only thing I'd need it for..

Would it be simple to change from integrated to dedicated in the future? Say if it isn't upto what I need it for, or would I have to change something else?

Thankssss. :D

Would only be able to be connected to one VDU at a time. It's fine for general web browsing and media use, but not games at all. Should be easy to upgrade to a better card in the future.

[Cylinder]

Would only be able to be connected to one VDU at a time. It's fine for general web browsing and media use, but not games at all. Should be easy to upgrade to a better card in the future.
Ah, thats great. I'm not too fussed about only being able to connect at one point, is it just a case of swapping the cables over I suppose though?

I won't be needing it for games at all, I never play games on PC, I have an Xbox and such.

If I can always upgrade and it's not hard work, because it's integrated or whatever then thats great and all. :D

Last question: would any monitor be okay with it, is it just the wire I need to get?
So say my monitor is DVI output, and my graphics card is VGA, would I buy the VGA > DVI I gather?

I'll be done soon, haha.

Thanks all. :)

[N!ck]

You would need to swap the cables over and make sure you change itt o the right resolution. Most monitors have a VGA connection as well as DVI, but you can get adapters.

[Cylinder]

Smashing. :)

Think I've found the PC I'm getting then with a 22" monitor for £125. Great price I'd say.

Thanks so much. :)