PS3 constantly outselling Xbox 360...

[Mint]

This is probably old news to most of you and don't worry, I'm not trying to start a PS3 vs 360 thing here. I just think that it is amazing, 360's where selling 16 months before PS3 and PS3 have still managed to catch up and pass them!

At Sony's PlayStation Day event, the company announced that it has sold more PS3 consoles than Microsoft has sold Xbox 360 consoles in Europe, despite the earlier launch of the latter.
SCEE president and CEO David Reeves said that Sony has sold 12 million PSP handhelds and 48 million PS2 consoles in Europe.
"I'm also delighted to announce today that we have sold over 5 million PlayStation 3's throughout Europe," Reeves said.
"We are particularly proud of this as it has been achieved in a similar time frame as PlayStation 2 which retailed, if you remember, at a significantly lower price."
Reeves noted that Sony has been consistently outselling its closest competitor - referring to the Xbox 360 - since October 2007, even with the latest price drop. He made no reference to Nintendo Wii sales in the region.
"I am delighted to be able announce today that we have sold more PlayStation 3's throughout Europe than Xbox 360 - even though they launched sixteen months before PS3."
"These numbers are a testament to the strength of the PlayStation brand throughout our region, the ever-increasing number of titles being launched, the rich content on offer and its appeal to different demographics and cultures."
Thread closed by PaulMacC (Forum Moderator): To prevent further arguments.

[j4k3]

''In Europe''

if a business says that usually +the rest of the world 360 owns the PS3

[Neil]

I find it hard to believe PS3 has out sold the 360 when it's Sony saying that, maybe if there was a reliable source but really I know more 360 owners than I do PS3 owners and I can't see it being remotely possible the PS3 is even close to selling as many consoles as the 360 has.

[Jord]

''In Europe''

if a business says that usually +the rest of the world 360 owns the PS3


I have to agree there in america 360 sold over like 3m xbox's not sure

[PaulMacC]

www.nexgenwars.com
360 is easily winning, Wii is demolishing all.

[Jord]

Wow didnt think wow was that good :p

[Wootzeh]

That seems to be out of date according to http://kotaku.com/5124107/microsoft-weve-sold-28-million-xbox-360s

(http://kotaku.com/5124107/microsoft-weve-sold-28-million-xbox-360s)
www.nexgenwars.com (http://www.nexgenwars.com/)
360 is easily winning, Wii is demolishing all. (http://kotaku.com/5124107/microsoft-weve-sold-28-million-xbox-360s)

[Mario]

But then again. wii beats pretty much all (except the Ps2, which has sold like 120m worldwide) in terms of sales.

[!.x.FaYe.x.!]

Ive had both 360 n ps3 - gears of war is good but other than that 360 broke about 4 months after i got it an basically ps3 completely dominates

[Hazza]

All these arguments are going on about which is better, they are both the same in my opinion, I have both of the consoles and they both do exactly the same thing :P

[Viruz]

Why do you think MLG only use Xbox 360???

[PaulMacC]

Why does the 360 have moar exclusives ;)

[J0SH]

Why does 360 have a nicer controller, gadgets etc.

[Bren]

why does the 360 have me.

[Hazza]

Explain the gadgets and wow the controller, its so amazing! :/
You do exactly the same thing.

[habzii]

360 sux and PS3 owns its simple!

[newWORLDorder]

I dont really care about the numbers, for me, PS3 is best. The closely followed by Xbox, then theres that other one, the erm...

[J0SH]

Explain the gadgets and wow the controller, its so amazing! :/
You do exactly the same thing.

The controller has a nicer feel, we've got live vision cam, plug and play kits, cooler fans and everything. :D Don't be jealous Sony fanboy.

[Pyroka]

I prefer Xbox 360, even though the PS3 has a nice vintage feel because its like playing an updated PS2 lol.

[Hazza]

Erm, I've got both a Xbox and PS3 so I'm not a sony ps3 boy.

[Cylinder]

For £150 more for a PS3, I don't think it's worth it. I really think they are overpriced.

[J0SH]

Did you have Xbox LIVE? Tbh the only reason people slate 360 is because they haven't tried LIVE, if you have LIVE and try the features and market place and everything then you'd enjoy it far more.

[Stitch]

The controller has a nicer feel, we've got live vision cam, plug and play kits, cooler fans and everything. :D Don't be jealous Sony fanboy.

PS3 has a playstation eye and cooling fan and what do you mean by plug and play kits?

[Neil]

PS3 has a playstation eye and cooling fan and what do you mean by plug and play kits?

Plug and play kits are the chargers for xbox controllers that let you play while it charges, just like the wire the PS3 controllers have.

[Stitch]

Ohhh thought so just wanted to make sure.

[Mint]

For £150 more for a PS3, I don't think it's worth it. I really think they are overpriced.
You get what you pay for. And I'm sorry but this is the truth, most people buy 360's because of how much cheaper they are, you may think that you know loads of people with 360's, more than you know with PS3's. But if you are a parent and your kid is asking for the latest games console, they are obviously going to want there kid to get the 360 rather than them having to pay £150 more on a PS3. A lot of people might not like to admit that they bought a 360 because of the massive saving, or they might of bought a 360 because all there mates have one and they want to play them, so they go and buy a 360, and the chain carrys on. I had a PS3 with my older brother when they first come out, then a PS2 which was unbelievable when that came out, and now a PS3. So you would think that I am a total PS3 fanboy that says "omg PS3 rules 360, 360 is rubbish!" But I'm not as they are very much similar to eachover, I just happen to prefer paying more for the better things in life.

[e5]

Ha obv cuz ps3's are mint

[Andeeh]

360 is good and ps3 aint worth £150 extra.

[Jibbish]

Both consoles are good.

[today]

You get what you pay for. And I'm sorry but this is the truth, most people buy 360's because of how much cheaper they are, you may think that you know loads of people with 360's, more than you know with PS3's. But if you are a parent and your kid is asking for the latest games console, they are obviously going to want there kid to get the 360 rather than them having to pay £150 more on a PS3. A lot of people might not like to admit that they bought a 360 because of the massive saving, or they might of bought a 360 because all there mates have one and they want to play them, so they go and buy a 360, and the chain carrys on. I had a PS3 with my older brother when they first come out, then a PS2 which was unbelievable when that came out, and now a PS3. So you would think that I am a total PS3 fanboy that says "omg PS3 rules 360, 360 is rubbish!" But I'm not as they are very much similar to eachover, I just happen to prefer paying more for the better things in life.

Just due to paying more doesnt mean you get better..

[Cisse9]

tbh i couldnt care less as everyone has an xbox 360 (who i know) and they cost £100+ cheaper so xbox 360's win it for me.

[Dan2nd]

I have some friends with 360's and some friends with PS3s guess which ones always start the arguements and get defensive about how their consol is better... it is always the ones who own the 360? why? because they paid less for it, they have constantly broken meaning their consols have spent more time at some microsoft warehouse getting fixed than being played on and they have to pay to play online.. I bought my PS3 when they first came out and haven't had to return it or get it fixed once most of my friends who own 360s have had theirs swapped/fixed over 3 times each... you get what you pay for.

[today]

I have some friends with 360's and some friends with PS3s guess which ones always start the arguements and get defensive about how their consol is better... it is always the ones who own the 360? why? because they paid less for it, they have constantly broken meaning their consols have spent more time at some microsoft warehouse getting fixed than being played on and they have to pay to play online.. I bought my PS3 when they first came out and haven't had to return it or get it fixed once most of my friends who own 360s have had theirs swapped/fixed over 3 times each... you get what you pay for.
It takes a week or two to get fixed, hardly 'ages' sighs.

[drama]

Why do you think MLG only use Xbox 360???
quoted for truth.

however in all fairnes there is now MLG WoW :P

[Dan2nd]

It takes a week or two to get fixed, hardly 'ages' sighs.

Rofl well its shocking that it should have to be sent to be fixed at all to be honest... I was actually thinking of buying a 360 in this months January sales but was seriously put off with the thought of having to go through all the bother of it breaking and having to send it off and then it breaking again to be sent off for a 'week or two' a week or two of time not playing my consol that I would have paid for... At least I can happily play my PS3 with out having to worry that a 'red light of doom' or whatever it is called will appear

[today]

Rofl well its shocking that it should have to be sent to be fixed at all to be honest... I was actually thinking of buying a 360 in this months January sales but was seriously put off with the thought of having to go through all the bother of it breaking and having to send it off and then it breaking again to be sent off for a 'week or two' a week or two of time not playing my consol that I would have paid for... At least I can happily play my PS3 with out having to worry that a 'red light of doom' or whatever it is called will appear
Breaking, then fixed, then breaking again? What are you on about jesus, Talk about going OTT.

You clearly dont know what your talking about.

[Cylinder]

Rofl well its shocking that it should have to be sent to be fixed at all to be honest... I was actually thinking of buying a 360 in this months January sales but was seriously put off with the thought of having to go through all the bother of it breaking and having to send it off and then it breaking again to be sent off for a 'week or two' a week or two of time not playing my consol that I would have paid for... At least I can happily play my PS3 with out having to worry that a 'red light of doom' or whatever it is called will appear
It's not something that happens with every console..jeez.

[Stitch]

It takes a week or two to get fixed, hardly 'ages' sighs.
Sony sent me a new PS3 in less than a week when mine wouldn't read discs. So compared to that it's ages.

[Dan2nd]

Breaking, then fixed, then breaking again? What are you on about jesus, Talk about going OTT.

You clearly dont know what your talking about.

I have more than one friend who have had to send their 360s back more than once so clearly I do (one of them ended up having to buy a new one which evidently had to be sent for repairs)


It's not something that happens with every console..jeez.

I personally would rather pay for something knowing it is going to work I'm not going to go out a pay for something that 'might work' and i may be lucky since not 'every' consol has to be sent for repairs

I'm not saying it never happens to PS3 my brother above (Stitch) had to send his PS3 away because the disk drive was faulty but his was returned within a day or two

[today]

Sony sent me a new PS3 in less than a week when mine wouldn't read discs. So compared to that it's ages.
It depends on time of year. :)

I have more than one friend who have had to send their 360s back more than once so clearly I do (one of them ended up having to buy a new one which evidently had to be sent for repairs)



I personally would rather pay for something knowing it is going to work I'm not going to go out a pay for something that 'might work' and i may be lucky since not 'every' consol has to be sent for repairs

I'm not saying it never happens to PS3 my brother above (Stitch) had to send his PS3 away because the disk drive was faulty but his was returned within a day or two
As said, depends on time of year, however one problem clearly doesnt rule it out being a great console, and one which wouldnt' stop me from buying the xbox again, as i would. And least the xbox has some better games too. :)

[Stitch]

I have more than one friend who have had to send their 360s back more than once so clearly I do (one of them ended up having to buy a new one which evidently had to be sent for repairs)



I personally would rather pay for something knowing it is going to work I'm not going to go out a pay for something that 'might work' and i may be lucky since not 'every' consol has to be sent for repairs

I'm not saying it never happens to PS3 my brother above (Stitch) had to send his PS3 away because the disk drive was faulty but his was returned within a day or two
Actually I swapped it with the courier so I got a new one the same day I sent my old one.

[Dan2nd]

It depends on time of year. :)

As said, depends on time of year, however one problem clearly doesnt rule it out being a great console, and one which wouldnt' stop me from buying the xbox again, as i would. And least the xbox has some better games too. :)

fair doos rofl I guess I can agree to disagree there :8 *cools down*


Actually I swapped it with the courier so I got a new one the same day I sent my old one.

whatever bro! :P

[GommeInc]

The controller has a nicer feel, we've got live vision cam, plug and play kits, cooler fans and everything. :D Don't be jealous Sony fanboy.
Not exactly the best argument. You pretty much just suggested you like the Xbox 360 for over-heating and having to pay for an extra fan, on top of 360 costs :P

I prefer the Wii then the PS3. The PS3 just seems more overly good in terms of HDD and entertainment systems e.g. Bluray and media storage.

[J0SH]

It's not recommended, it's only for gamers who spend a lot of time on their 360 and don't want it to overheat :P And I'd rather buy the price of a 360 and the fan rather than the price of a PS3. You've got what, 4 exclusives or something? :P

[mangle]

If the PS3 was lower price, it would be the better console imo.

[GommeInc]

It's not recommended, it's only for gamers who spend a lot of time on their 360 and don't want it to overheat :P And I'd rather buy the price of a 360 and the fan rather than the price of a PS3. You've got what, 4 exclusives or something? :P
Don't bring the game argument into it, I don't really play any games on it as of late, so nerrr :P

The PS3 isn't that expensive really for what you get, surely the huge HDD and extra features make it worth while? I see the PS3 as a media centre, rather than a console to be honest...

[Stitch]

It's not recommended, it's only for gamers who spend a lot of time on their 360 and don't want it to overheat :P And I'd rather buy the price of a 360 and the fan rather than the price of a PS3. You've got what, 4 exclusives or something? :P
I can think of 12 but i'm sure I could expand that list by loads if I looked at a list of exclusives.

[kk.]

that website on page 1 isnt actual sales figures :/

For all of you saying xbox 360 is still winning... yeh, its had 16 more months to sell...

[Neil]

that website on page 1 isnt actual sales figures :/

For all of you saying xbox 360 is still winning... yeh, its had 16 more months to sell...

And it's cheaper...
And better...

[J0SH]

And it's cheaper...
And better...

/Thread really, lol.

[GommeInc]

/Thread really, lol.
You 360 fans really aren't good with arguments :P

[J0SH]

Indeed, we don't need to argue for what console is better, 360 wins hands down, and it's all the PS3 fan boys who try and start these fueds :P

[Charted]

Strange. I know 4 people with a PS3 while about 50 with a 360...

[Cylinder]

I got offered a PS3 as a present recently (I always get one in the new year). But I really don't need one, so I said no and getting something else.

I think there both the same apart from the blu-ray but I wouldn't even buy blu-ray films and stuff imho.

But at end of the day they are just consoles, both do same job.

[Jord]

I got offered a PS3 as a present recently (I always get one in the new year). But I really don't need one, so I said no and getting something else.

I think there both the same apart from the blu-ray but I wouldn't even buy blu-ray films and stuff imho.

But at end of the day they are just consoles, both do same job.

I would of taken it and sold it for some cash Id prefer like £300 From a ps3 that i sold then a DVD or game lol

[Cylinder]

I would of taken it and sold it for some cash Id prefer like £300 From a ps3 that i sold then a DVD or game lol
I'm not getting a game, I'm getting a new base unit for my PC. :P

[rkolegendkilla]

PS3 outsell xboxs cause 360's break constantly!!! get a ps3 its a safe bet and better!

[Lost_Addict]

last thing i heard was in a gaming mag is

wii is slightly infront of the xbox 360 and way infront of ps3 in sales

so ya sorry but theres no way im believing that

[Coheed&Cambria]

More sales doesent exactly mean more people like that console.

[Seany]

:S

Shocker :o

Would of thought XBOX 360 was in front by loads.

[J0SH]

Most PS3 owners would probably be adults anyway.

[Wootzeh]

More sales doesent exactly mean more people like that console.
erm yes it does :S

[Coheed&Cambria]

erm yes it does :S

No it doesent. Them figures dont show how many people took the ps3's back etc.

I have a wii and i dont like it/use it.

[J0SH]

I laugh in the face of the person who said 360's break, PS3's do too, Brandon's broke, and I'm fairly sure people outside of this forums have broke too :rolleyes:

[kk.]

it also doesnt show how many people have had to return their xbox's for a replacement
and brandons one in a few. I know loads of people who have had to send their xbox back and im sure a lot more on here have sent xboxs back %wise than ps3s

[Fez]

Haha very clever, that you know one person who's PS3 has broken down, as of now I think only Technologic's and some other guys has broken down, that's like 3... and I can't even count the number of RROD threads in the MS section right now...

[J0SH]

360 is cheap, it's not going to have the best motherboards and everything, if it was same price as PS3 and fitted with the same motherboard and everything so that no RRoD was possible, that would shut everyone up. :8

[efq]

Shame 360 has a better multiplayer tho?

[kk.]

360 is cheap, it's not going to have the best motherboards and everything, if it was same price as PS3 and fitted with the same motherboard and everything so that no RRoD was possible, that would shut everyone up. :8

If it was the same price i think people would choose the ps3. Its pretty much the same only has a blu ray player included and free gameplay. lets do the maths here, yep, ps3 is more appealing...

[GommeInc]

Indeed, we don't need to argue for what console is better, 360 wins hands down, and it's all the PS3 fan boys who try and start these fueds :P
You started it actually :P By saying:


Why does 360 have a nicer controller, gadgets etc.

No-one was really arguing about either one using opinions, only factual stuff, until the 360 peeps shown up with their "better gadgets, exclusives" and so on :P Then the PS3 opinion wars began in retaliation :P

[J0SH]

I was only backing up the better console ;) People think just because of RRoD it's a downside, I haven't had RRoD once and I've owned various 360's since release, it varies on how long you play for etc..

[Jord]

I was only backing up the better console ;) People think just because of RRoD it's a downside, I haven't had RRoD once and I've owned various 360's since release, it varies on how long you play for etc..


We got RRoD

Ps3 have BSOD

[GommeInc]

I was only backing up the better console ;) People think just because of RRoD it's a downside, I haven't had RRoD once and I've owned various 360's since release, it varies on how long you play for etc..
Is that meant to be in there? :P

[today]

Is that meant to be in there? :P
Yeah hes just proved a point not every xbox is going to get RROD.

[Soy]

... just get a good PC and you wont need a ps3 or a 360

Anyway, price and performance Xbox is better, better gpu. The only reason ps3 is slightly beter in graphics is because it has blu ray discs which can allow more to be put on than normal discs.

Anyway, if xbox 360 decides to get a blu ray attachment (Which was promised to be under £50) then Xbox360 will win over PS3 again :)

I do not own an 360 nor do I own a PS3

[mangle]

This thread has nothing to do with PC gaming, nor does the console gaming section.

[GommeInc]

Yeah hes just proved a point not every xbox is going to get RROD.
But he also disproves his fact that PS3s are expensive for what you get, if he can buy "various" amounts of Xbox 360s, then he can afford a PS3 :P

Once game creators start utilising Blu-Ray discs properly, the PS3 will be the better console. But because they're far too lazy to create games of epic proportions, it seems unlikely they'll ever do this.


This thread has nothing to do with PC gaming, nor does the console gaming section.
He contributed to the thread, which is more than can be said for your post ;)

[RichardKnox]

I've got a 360 and a PS3 and I would say the 360 edges it slightly in terms of online play and better exclusives. But to be honest, my 360 has broken once since I've had it (1 1/2 years soon) and the time it broke I had a new 360 in 3 days cause they just replaced it.

The whole HDD size argument is invalid, cause I have a 120gb HDD on my 360 but only an 80GB on the PS3.

A lot of people also seem to forget that most PS3's can't play old game discs such as PS2 games. My 360 plays original Xbox games 100% fine.

Fair enough the 360 is a lot louder than the PS3 and can't play Bluray but when we're talking about which is the better games console Bluray Movies becomes a bit irrelevant.

But so I don't look like a total 360 fanboy (which I really ain't) I'd also like to point out that ~16% of 360's fail and are returned while <1% of PS3's do.

It all really comes down to personal preference when arguing about games consoles.

And if anyone wants to bring up the Xbox Live argument, I'll refer to Mint's post earlier about PS3 prices and say 'you get what you pay for'. Xbox Live is in my opinion a lot better than PS3 Online (PSN?)

[J0SH]

Exactly, I'm happy to pay for LIVE :P

[Jibbish]

The 2009 exclusive line up for the PS3 looks a lot better than the XBOX's

[Kyle!]

These fact's are a bit out of date... The Xbox 360 surpassed PS3 so much during Christmas.

[Oleh]

unless its just my town or what but its like a 19-1 ratio on xbox to ps3 ownership

[mangle]

The 360 sold better this Christmas from what I saw in my store, the arcade did particulary well.

[GommeInc]

The whole HDD size argument is invalid, cause I have a 120gb HDD on my 360 but only an 80GB on the PS3.
Unless Xbox 360s have changed, the argument is valid. A PS3 can have an upgraded HDD to 300GB+, due to the HDD just being a usual laptop HDD. But I have no idea what 360s use, but looking at Google, they don't upgrade much :P

[.Zi]

Sony sent me a new PS3 in less than a week when mine wouldn't read discs. So compared to that it's ages.

My Xbox has NEVER broken down so, im ok :)

Got it the day it came out too, I have live aswell.


Most PS3 owners would probably be adults anyway.

Yeh, my mate wanted 360 but parents bought him a ps3 because they thought it would be better because of the price and it looked better and didn't read any reviews etc.

[mangle]

Sony sent me a new PS3 in less than a week when mine wouldn't read discs. So compared to that it's ages.

Microsoft sent me mine in less than a week?

[Patt]

My 360 has never broken down.
There are alot of misconceptions about the 360 breaking down.

[Mint]

Lol I forgot about something, It's like comparing cheap and common cars that you always see on the road to big expensive luxury cars. Obviously the cheaper cars sell more. This Christmas especially with the credit crunch, the cheaper of the 2 (360) will of obviously sold more. And if all you 360 fanboys can't agree with this then you really do just have a lack of common sense.

[Moh]

Lol I forgot about something, It's like comparing cheap and common cars that you always see on the road to big expensive luxury cars. Obviously the cheaper cars sell more. This Christmas especially with the credit crunch, the cheaper of the 2 (360) will of obviously sold more. And if all you 360 fanboys can't agree with this then you really do just have a lack of common sense.
I agree. Even thought the PS3 is near enough double the price of an Xbox, the PS3 has sold over half the amount of Xbox's, so Sony are as profitable with their console as Microsoft.

But then the Xbox needs wireless, cooling fans, Xbox live etc..

So if you want your console to be at least half as good as the PS3, you gota pay more than you would for a PS3.

Most people who hate PS3s are just the people who can't afford them or are forced to because their friends can't afford them.

[PaulMacC]

Hey guys just a quick note, any argumentive comments will result in this thread being closed, just let's keep it to a discussion. Remember everyone has a right to their own opinions and your aloud to challenge the opinion not the person.

[Cylinder]

I agree. Even thought the PS3 is near enough double the price of an Xbox, the PS3 has sold over half the amount of Xbox's, so Sony are as profitable with their console as Microsoft.

But then the Xbox needs wireless, cooling fans, Xbox live etc..

So if you want your console to be at least half as good as the PS3, you gota pay more than you would for a PS3.

Most people who hate PS3s are just the people who can't afford them or are forced to because their friends can't afford them.

How does an Xbox need wireless? You can connect controllers with a wire, headsets with a wire, internet with a wire. If you want to connect via wireless then you get the other products. Only thing I'll agree about wireless is the adapter, it's over priced ya.

You don't need a cooling fan either.. hardly anyone uses them, I've read reviews and if anything they break your Xbox.

And you don't need Xbox Live to play on an Xbox to play online you do but you pay for what you get and I personally believe XBL is better than PSN, even some PS3 owners have admitted that.

Also, reason I don't have a PS3 is because of the price.. I don't feel it's worth it, I can afford to get one but I don't want too because of the price.. both do the same job, both have pros and cons.

[Jibbish]

How does an Xbox need wireless? You can connect controllers with a wire, headsets with a wire, internet with a wire. If you want to connect via wireless then you get the other products. Only thing I'll agree about wireless is the adapter, it's over priced ya.

You don't need a cooling fan either.. hardly anyone uses them, I've read reviews and if anything they break your Xbox.

And you don't need Xbox Live to play on an Xbox to play online you do but you pay for what you get and I personally believe XBL is better than PSN, even some PS3 owners have admitted that.

Also, reason I don't have a PS3 is because of the price.. I don't feel it's worth it, I can afford to get one but I don't want too because of the price.. both do the same job, both have pros and cons.
XBL is only better than PSN because it charges
If PSN was to charge i'm sure it would be as good

[efq]

XBL is only better than PSN because it charges
If PSN was to charge i'm sure it would be as good
Why on earth would paying mean more users? In theory, free is better.
So people paying for XBL shows that its obviously has a better online experience.

Edit: Whats this? http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172135

[Jin]

Could it be argued that xbox 360 established their market long before PS3 hence therefore sales would decline for a console that was released years before a PS3 as people already own it.

Its like saying,

Ford Fiesta released in 2006 and a competitive car released in 2008, people have already purchased a ford from 2006 - 2008 where as no one had the competitive car. Its release in 08 would prompt a surge in sales for the company so therefore you see a boom in its sales however despite the boom an in the time span of one year more of the competition car is sold then a ford fiesta it appears that the competition car appears to be more popular but looking at total ownership the ford fiesta would probably have a larger percentage.

This is a simply press technique used for creative use of statistics. I would be more interested in seeing the total number of 360's sold against the total for PS3.

Of course sales will decline over the years because you would expect that when a person has purchased a 360 they will be using it for years to come until they seek to purchase a newer model or replacement console.

Just for the record, I own neither. However the majority of people I know own a 360 rather than a PS3.

[Kardan]

Another thing that annoys me is that my PS3 can't play PS2 games, whereas my 360 can play my XBox games, another reason why I prefer the 360.

[Jibbish]

Why on earth would paying mean more users? In theory, free is better.
So people paying for XBL shows that its obviously has a better online experience.

Edit: Whats this? http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172135
I didn't say paying means more users..
And kardan
my 60GB ps3 can play ps2 games

[Mint]

Another thing that annoys me is that my PS3 can't play PS2 games, whereas my 360 can play my XBox games, another reason why I prefer the 360.
Thats why you should of got the first proper 60GB PS3's that can play PS2 games. I got mine on the first day it came out as I had been waiting for it since my birthday. I dropped it down the stairs when I was moving it down to the big tele after a few months of owning it. So now my PS3 can't play PS2 games cos I think they removed that feature so they could sell it for cheaper.

In conclusion, 360's are just almost identical next generation consoles like PS3's but are more affordable and do everything that you would need them to do. With them being a lot cheaper it has encouraged many more people (mainly children) to get them. But more adults that can afford PS3's would choose to buy PS3's, or just kids with rich parents.

[Con]

I find it hard to believe PS3 has out sold the 360 when it's Sony saying that, maybe if there was a reliable source but really I know more 360 owners than I do PS3 owners and I can't see it being remotely possible the PS3 is even close to selling as many consoles as the 360 has.
lol agreed

quite hard to believe that :P
Most people I know / have heard of have a 360 whilst only 1 person I know has a PS3

[Neil]

I didn't say paying means more users..
And kardan
my 60GB ps3 can play ps2 games

Yes your 60Gb can play them but the 40Gb can't and the 80Gb barely can, it's a bit of a rip off paying for a console and not being able to play the previous generation of games on it really, I only like 3 PS2 games that work on my PS3 because Sony are a bunch of cheap little idiots.

[Fez]

Its true that the PS3 has overtaken the X360, in sales, in Europe. But in Japan and America, things are hugely different. It's worth noting that the X360 is still 10 million units ahead and the Wii is a billion units ahead.

Also, Europe is apparently the biggest gaming market somehow... only slightly bigger than the U.S

[GommeInc]

Also, Europe is apparently the biggest gaming market somehow... only slightly bigger than the U.S
I find that really odd... Whenever I've gone abroad to another country, they don't seem to be gaming inclined. I wonder if the UK has something to do with it :S

If the PS3 allowed PS2 games, then it would definitely have a reason to be popular. So far it does seem a bit mind boggling.

Also, what exactly is good about Live? I've played online with my PS3 before, and the fact it plays online is surely enough? It can browse the internet, do trophies, PS Home... What else do you need? Seems anything else isn't worth the money, unless there are some amazing features...

[Skajo]

More sales doesent exactly mean more people like that console.
Re: GommeInc's "you 360 fans aren't really good with your arguments" quote.

[mangle]

Coheed would have a better argument if it was more PS3's shipped, unfortunately I must agree with above aha.

[Neil]

Re: GommeInc's "you 360 fans aren't really good with your arguments" quote.

That's your quote not GommeInc's.



Does it really matter at the end of the day? 360 has good points, it has bad points, the PS3 is exactly the same, if you don't agree with someone then that's your opinion, what it all comes down to is how many cookies you can put in your mouth at once.

[cocaine]

I know FAR many more people who have a 360 (about 30 odd from my year) than people who own a PS3 (about 4 odd from my year).

[Excellent2]

Why don't you all just shut up? If you all spent more time playing your consoles then arguing about them you might have atleast a tiny bit of knowledge. All these companies can lie about their sales and say they have sold more than another party, it's called business.

The fact of the matter is, I have a 360 and I'm pleased with the play I get from it. I don't own a PS3 so I can't comment on it. All I know is that both consoles are brilliant in terms of "next gen" technology.

I can understand where some are coming from about the £150 upper charge for the PS3. Although I wouldn't pay this just so I can be assured my console won't break, I would pay around £50-60 more. The only downside with the 360 is that it can have hardware failure which is bad for hardcore gamers.

[Wootzeh]

http://kotaku.com/5130042/british-console-sales-figures-wii--360--ps3

[efq]

http://kotaku.com/5130042/british-console-sales-figures-wii--360--ps3
Thats likely true, also shows that the cheaper the more are sold.

Most people in my year have 360s and the odd 1 or 2 have a PS3.

[mangle]

Well the 360 is the cheapest console out there :P

[GommeInc]

Well the 360 is the cheapest console out there :P
Isn't it the Wii?

EDIT: Gosh, the Wii is £179.99 while the Xbox 360 is £159.99 from Amazon, I'm sure the Wii used to be £129.99... Or was that the DS lol :P

[Technologic]

PC owns all three.

/thread

[Excellent2]

PC owns all three.

/threadThe only problem is PC graphics and glitches are disgusting.

[Stitch]

The only problem is PC graphics and glitches are disgusting.
Also I can be certain a game will work well on my PS3. I can't with my PC because my PC isn't very good so it's sometimes a gamble buying games for it. The PC is good because people make mods to make it more fun.

[Cylinder]

PC Graphics can be good, if you pay the right amount for a PC. I'd rather own a console though.

[Skajo]

You 360 fans really aren't good with arguments :P


That's your quote not GommeInc's.


You stand corrected.

[Neil]

You stand corrected.

You're quoting him so it's not his quote it's yours, it's his comment yes but he didn't quote anyone by saying that so it's not his quote is it?

[Skajo]

Stop using the word quote :(.

[GommeInc]

What have I got myself involved in? I'm confused, you seem to be mentioning my name often :S

[Boonzeet]

they all suck really bad

but ps3 is not outselling 360, almost everyone I know has a 360 and a few with a ps3.

a lot have wii's but dont play them

[Dunn]

PS3 would never outsell 360 and if it did 360 would always be the better console at the end of the day

[Mint]

they all suck really bad

but ps3 is not outselling 360, almost everyone I know has a 360 and a few with a ps3.

a lot have wii's but dont play them
Just because you know more people with xbox's than PS3's doesn't mean that more 360's are sold, unless ofcourse you know everyone in the world that owns PS3's and 360's.

PS3 would never outsell 360 and if it did 360 would always be the better console at the end of the day
Why say things that are totally wrong, the PS3 is the better console but the 360 has a better online.

[Jibbish]

Having a better console doesn't make you have a bigger penis

[Mint]

Having a better console doesn't make you have a bigger penis
Well done for stating that.... :eusa_clap:S

[Kightly]

My friend as a PS3, but his getting really bored of it now and says his intresting in the xbox 360 and as played on it around his mates, and he says he loves it way better more!

[kk.]

My friend as a PS3, but his getting really bored of it now and says his intresting in the xbox 360 and as played on it around his mates, and he says he loves it way better more!

omg please listen in english lessons :rolleyes:

[J0SH]

Just because you know more people with xbox's than PS3's doesn't mean that more 360's are sold, unless ofcourse you know everyone in the world that owns PS3's and 360's.

Why say things that are totally wrong, the PS3 is the better console but the 360 has a better online.

They're both good consoles, you just think PS3 is better because it also has a web browser and everything. :rolleyes:

[Eight.]

They both good. PS3 has it's bluray etc. and X360 has it's online.

[KnuxIBF]

The worldwide end of year figures for last year show that the PS3's not even beaten the Gamecube.

Wii - 44.96 mill.
360 - 28 mill.
GameCube - 21.74 mill.
PS3 - 21.3 mill.

[mangle]

Is there a source on that please? :)

[Neil]

The worldwide end of year figures for last year show that the PS3's not even beaten the Gamecube.

Wii - 44.96 mill.
360 - 28 mill.
GameCube - 21.74 mill.
PS3 - 21.3 mill.


The Gamecube didn't even beat the original xbox let alone reach passed 10mil. o.O

[GommeInc]

Having a better console doesn't make you have a bigger penis
Some of us can hope :(

Also, the Gamecube isn't sold anymore, and if it was it would never reach that much...

[kk.]

can i just point to this: http://gamer.blorge.com/2007/03/21/why-the-playstation-3-kicks-serious-butt/
its a little dated but i never realised thats what you needed to buy originally? is it still like that?

[Neil]

can i just point to this: http://gamer.blorge.com/2007/03/21/why-the-playstation-3-kicks-serious-butt/
its a little dated but i never realised thats what you needed to buy originally? is it still like that?

1. Console with wireless controller and 20 GB hard drive = $400 US
2. Rechargeable battery pack for 1 controller = $20 US

($420)

That's all you NEED to buy, unless you get a wired controller, then it's

1. Console with wireless controller and 20 GB hard drive = $400 US
2. Wired Controller ($36)

($436)

If you want wireless and xbox live

1. Console with wireless controller and 20 GB hard drive = $400 US
3. WiFi controller = $100 US
4. Xbox Live account = $50 US

($550)

I have a pretty cheap option

1. Console with wireless controller and 20 GB hard drive = $400 US
2. Rechargeable battery pack for 1 controller = $20 US
4. Xbox Live account = $50 US

($470)

You will never NEED to buy anything but the above 3 really, even better if you get wired controller which is only £25 ($36)

The problem with arguements like these is PS3 comes with most of this built in so PS3 owners will go with "you have to buy this, this and this" even though you don't have to buy anything more than you buying with the PS3.

[kk.]

yeh bu the point of the article is what the ps3 gets for the price. like, for the xbox to be the same, they would have to buy that. Its for the argument 'omg, the ps3 is so expensive!!!'

[Neil]

yeh bu the point of the article is what the ps3 gets for the price. like, for the xbox to be the same, they would have to buy that. Its for the argument 'omg, the ps3 is so expensive!!!'

The PS3 is cheap for what you get but the real fact is you don't nessercarily want what the PS3 offers, the 360 at least gives you choices, you don't have to buy a HD-DVD drive or something, personally I don't see why you would want too.

[marriott0.01]

The 360 outsold the PS3 this christmas season and the Wii still owns

[kk.]

ive told you lol, read the article.

[Oleh]

can i just point to this: http://gamer.blorge.com/2007/03/21/w...-serious-butt/ (http://gamer.blorge.com/2007/03/21/why-the-playstation-3-kicks-serious-butt/)
its a little dated but i never realised thats what you needed to buy originally? is it still like that?

No plus thats american figures heres what i have and i find it better than a ps3:

Xbox 360 arcade - £160
20GB hard drive - £70
Xbox live - £40
Wireless Headset - £25
all of that - £295
Which in turn equals cheaper than a Ps3, i couldnt care about online costing its only £3 a month for many services ps3 online doesn't offer, people say free online is better but with a ps3 you dont get a headset so many people dont go out and buy one, i borrowed cod4 off my mate for a day on ps3 and i encountered 3 out of 40 people had headsets and they didnt speak. you can go on about how your precious console has blu-ray, but what does that do? gives you a bigger disc for a bigger game, the xbox doesnt have that but doesnt need it games like metal gear solid and killzone dont suit an xbox that much with there fancy cutscenes and super realistic visuals (all you kids who think they matter make me laugh) , xbox sells more for the fact its better and far cheaper. you can argue all you want and call me a fanboy but owning most of the consoles since 4th generation doesn't really suggest im a fanboy.

[kk.]

lol £5 if u go by £300 which i have seen ps3's come with 2 games. they were selling at about £270 + a game a few weeks back. Plus, you have to pay live every year. I was just pointing to it, so dont start raving at me lol

[Neil]

lol £5 if u go by £300 which i have seen ps3's come with 2 games. they were selling at about £270 + a game a few weeks back. Plus, you have to pay live every year. I was just pointing to it, so dont start raving at me lol

Again, live is optional, you don't HAVE to get it, you can argue all you want but at then end of the day you can't win because it's a stupid thing you're arguing for, you can get xbox arcade with like 4 games anyway.

[Juelz]

that's cos ps3's are amazing

[Ashhizzle]

that's cos ps3's are amazing
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