HxHD closed - turned into a lounge

[Immenseman]

Just been announced at the prom, thoughts?

Merged by nvrspk4.

[Kardan]

There's no demand for help dasks, but what do the HxHD Staff do now?

[Immenseman]

I was lagging a hell of a lot. From what I gather they'll just be room mods really yet there is still going to be a manager and leah has been promoted to assistant manager. Good move but some things still make no sense to me.

[today]

There's no demand for help dasks, but what do the HxHD Staff do now?
Nothing, like they did before. So no changes there.

[Immenseman]

LOL, harsh. I really think nvrspk4 still owning it is a big mistake. I know none of the general management team don't use Habbo on a regular basis but there must be one manager who is online enough to own it. I know the cons for someone outside of the general management team owning this type of room but you need someone who is active and always on in prime time or it just doesn't work.

[FlyingJesus]

Nothing, like they did before. So no changes there.

My thoughts exactly, except now they don't have a job they're meant to do anyway so they can get away with it

[luce]

LOL, harsh. I really think nvrspk4 still owning it is a big mistake. I know none of the general management team don't use Habbo on a regular basis but there must be one manager who is online enough to own it. I know the cons for someone outside of the general management team owning this type of room but you need someone who is active and always on in prime time or it just doesn't work.

Sammeth is on enough to own it :D

[Immenseman]

Well he's on more than nvr anyway, not a personal attack on nvr which I'm sure he'll realise it's just the truth.

[HotelUser]

I've already known the amount of people the desk helps has been declining over the preceding years but honestly I cannot see the point in making it a lounge?

I can't see how a lounge is an improvement. HxHD was already a lounge type room before (on the Habbox page for HxHD it said it was even a lounge as well...). It was a lounge and a help desk. Now it's just a lounge, the help area was removed (and although not as many people were wanting help, there was still users coming in asking for help). This isn't upgrading anything, it's downgrading. I don't see the point? What advantages do you intend on gaining by doing this?

[Dan2nd]

So does the new room exist yet or.... ? and HxHD seems to be the most popular it has been in ages on the day it closes rofl..

as said in previous thread I have had some what good times when I was HxHD staff (rofl sometimes doing nothing as said above xD, most of the time doing those stupid staff reports when I was manager).. but meh I thought something like this was going to happen this time LAST year so meh it's been amazing it has held out for so long but ...

I seriously cannot see the 'lounge' doing any better than the help desk but meh only time will tell

edit: if anyone saw my terrible mix up with simple words before I edited it sorry :(

[Sammeth.]

There will be staff cutbacks made (we only have the economy to blame :'() so the team will be a small, exclusive one. The lounge will be a place where you can socialise (which is pretty much what it was used for in the first place) and it can be used as more of a Function Room too, being easily adaptable for large events that involve all of Habbox.

[Alkaz]

When I mentioned this almost a year ago it was pushed aside because their still seemed some kind of demand for Help Desks, which their was, some anyway. Now with guides and everything their is really no need. Now their is the HxL it is much better in my opinion and maybe another way to promote content on the site as a way of our online HxHD.

[Immenseman]

Only time will tell if it works. I mentioned this last month because I think it could work it's better than just closing HxHD anyway. Regardless of what some of you think I'm a huge fan of HxHD and it could have worked with a better management team and with the manager being the owner of the room but that was never going to happen so transforming it into a lounge is better.

[Alkaz]

No point in this thread really david their is already others. But all it is really is a rename of the department and department roles. Good move in my opinion. HxHD ended the era of Help Desks.

[Immenseman]

Already posted, soz.

[myke]

I remember this happened to H-P... but it just.. died.

It was exactly like this aswell.. a dead helpdesk > lounge > dead lounge
but it'll be cool to see and hope it takes off.

[buttons]

No point in this thread really david their is already others. But all it is really is a rename of the department and department roles. Good move in my opinion. HxHD ended the era of Help Desks.
"no point in this thread" yeah excuse me he was giving his opinion just like you gave yours "good move in my opinion" so shh.
i agree though it already was a 'lounge' sorta thing really & they've tooken away the help desk which means it's going to be JUST that so like he said it's downgrading it however i couldn't give a crap we'll just see how it goes

[Immenseman]

Depends if they put a new amount of enthusiasm into it also. Yeah, the desk died this has been acknowledged, there should be a new owner, new manager, new room mods.

[dogboy123]

Thread pointless.

But, maybe the departemnt thought that a Help Desk was no longer needed, as there are now Habbo Guides, and nobody is really seeking help.

And maybe they changed it into a lounge, because atm people are just talking, and chilling in there, so why not have a lounge? There will still be room mods ( HxHD Staff) to moderate the room + help people if needed.

:D

[--ss--]

I agree, HxHD has always been part of Habbox History and proof of Habbox dominance over the hotel, even if people may not use it much for help it is still nice to have a desk to go to if you ever need it.

Remember what happened to PH after they decided to close down and become a longue, 3/4 days later no one ever went back in.
Only reason people used to go there was because it was HxHD, now I doubt people will go there to "chill" as they can do that anywhere.

[HotelUser]

Thread pointless.

But, maybe the departemnt thought that a Help Desk was no longer needed, as there are now Habbo Guides, and nobody is really seeking help.

And maybe they changed it into a lounge, because atm people are just talking, and chilling in there, so why not have a lounge? There will still be room mods ( HxHD Staff) to moderate the room + help people if needed.

:D

I was writing this at the same time as Jake. I can read forum topics thx.

You're right, there are guides. But those are not always as good as person as person help; and as I've said before there were still users coming to the desk for help.

People could always go in there and use the room as a lounge.

[dogboy123]

I was writing this at the same time as Jake. I can read forum topics thx.

You're right, there are guides. But those are not always as good as person as person help; and as I've said before there were still users coming to the desk for help.

People could always go in there and chill.

Well, if the majority of people are using it for a Lounge, why not take a bar away, and call it a lounge, not that much change. :)

[--ss--]

Guides suck, they're all noobs who have no clue themselves, only do it for the badges.

[HotelUser]

Well, if the majority of people are using it for a Lounge, why not take a bar away, and call it a lounge, not that much change. :)

Because why have a lounge where just loungers can benefit, if you can have a help desk area too, where users needing help and loungers can benefit?

[Dan2nd]

I only went to HxHD because it was 'HxHD' I'll occasionally probably go to this lounge to see my Hx buds but meh..

[dogboy123]

Because why have a lounge where just loungers can benefit, if you can have a help desk area too, where users needing help and loungers can benefit?

Well, we'll have to see what happens to the new room :)
I'm sure it really wont affect the popularity of the room :)

EDIT: : Listen to Sam, Below me :)

[Sammeth.]

Because why have a lounge where just loungers can benefit, if you can have a help desk area too, where users needing help and loungers can benefit?

If someone comes in asking for help, I can assure you the staff won't go "NO, get out you fool - this is a LOUNGE". All staff are friendly enough to provide help where and when it's needed.

[buttons]

If someone comes in asking for help, I can assure you the staff won't go "NO, get out you fool - this is a LOUNGE". All staff are friendly enough to provide help where and when it's needed.
LMAO no they're not. I've seen one person in there for past few days and that's bren. oh and john, another mistake right there ;) all staff just came today for this big ball n announcement **** and acted immature ;l meh

[HotelUser]

If someone comes in asking for help, I can assure you the staff won't go "NO, get out you fool - this is a LOUNGE". All staff are friendly enough to provide help where and when it's needed.


Of course. But I mean before the room was split down the middle sort of....now it's just a big lounge?

I somehow doubt the staff will be as eager to stick around as they were before too, especially if they're doing staff cuts.

[partie2]

its a shame to see it go as in its prime hxhd was great but it has gone down hill big time and there isnt the demand for help desks these days.

[dogboy123]

Of course. But I mean before the room was split down the middle sort of....now it's just a big lounge?

I somehow doubt the staff will be as eager to stick around as they were before too, especially if they're doing staff cuts.

Only time can tell..

[Immenseman]

its a shame to see it go as in its prime hxhd was great but it has gone down hill big time and there isnt the demand for help desks these days.

Yeah in all fairness apart from a few small peaks it hasn't been constantly popular since Hecktix and he just managed with fear, lol.

[Juae]

Why don't they choose someone who has stuff to make a room for a lounge and mabye have a couple of different lounges to dicuss different things. Just get like managers of the lounge who own it and put it on the habbox site to approve they are the rightful owners..

Would make more sense than just having someone who would never go into this lounge and make it dead again.
Oh well, only thoughts

James. x

[HotelUser]

Only time can tell..


If anyone else was at the thing where the announcement was made, you might have caught 1 or 5 staff cursing about this:P.

[leah]

I think you guys should give the lounge a chance.
It took a lot of time to make the decision to change i'm sure and it was made for a reason.

[leah]

We should give it a chance before we slate it, being staff I know that less and less people ask for help and more used the desk to socialise, if people still need help the staff will obviously help them but Help desks just aren't used as much anymore.

[dogboy123]

Habbox Help Lounge, HxHL ftw

HxLounge, people might say HxL, or HxLo, which doesnt look right in my oppinion

[HotelUser]

I think you guys should give the lounge a chance.
It took a lot of time to make the decision to change i'm sure and it was made for a reason.

I'm sure it was a tough choice, as HxHD has been here for a long time. But I just can't understand how this is an improvement (if I'm totally wrong and this is a great idea then I'll take back my thread).



Habbox Help Lounge, HxHL ftw

HxLounge, people might say HxL, or HxLo, which doesnt look right in my oppinion

As there's already HxL perhaps HxHD[L] could be a suitable name, as it still includes help desk, as well as lounge.

[Dan2nd]

I so hope (ex) HxHD staff aren't going to all start acting anti HxHD and start saying they love HxHL or w.e just because it's changed.. if they disagree with the idea they should say but of course if they really do love the idea sure they have the right to preach it :P

I personally think HxHL looks like a typo of HxL but hey w.e lol

[buttons]

yeah and if it looks like HXL you'll get all the ******* annoying DJ lovers coming in :@

[Immenseman]

Yeah Leah. We're all going to give it a chance I just think there should have been a few more changes made now rather than realising they need to be done later on down the line.

[FlyingJesus]

Get rid of them RAWRR women for one thing

[HotelUser]

yeah and if it looks like HXL you'll get all the ******* annoying DJ lovers coming in :@

I've always liked the radio staff doing parties in the desk. The radio fans would come and get the desk popular :).

As it's just a lounge now, I think management should make it a requirement to throw as many parties in the lounge as you can, as so Habbox can get Habbox official rooms popular as opposed to the dj's own non-official rooms.

[Dan2nd]

Yeah thats a good idea David... they should make it mandatory to hold a certain ammount of DJ partys in there or it'll just end up like HxHD did and eventually turn into something else or cease to exist :O

[Immenseman]

Lol, get rid of anyone who hasn't used Habbo since 2006, latest.

[Sammeth.]

As I said in the other thread:


There will be staff cutbacks made (we only have the economy to blame :'() so the team will be a small, exclusive one. The lounge will be a place where you can socialise (which is pretty much what it was used for in the first place) and it can be used as more of a Function Room too, being easily adaptable for large events that involve all of Habbox.

It will be nice to see how it develops, and we take on all suggestions, so thanks for bringing it up :D

[Dan2nd]

Yeah Leah. We're all going to give it a chance I just think there should have been a few more changes made now rather than realising they need to be done later on down the line.

Well... they really need to get it right first time or it'll instantly get a bad reputation and like HxHD for the last few years will always be the runt of the departments..

even though I hate the idea of the lounge I'd like to wish all of the staff good luck with it :)

[dogboy123]

I said HxHL, thats not HxL :)

HxHL - Habbox Help Lounge

Sounds better than

Habbox Help Desk [Lounge]

:)

[HotelUser]

As I said in the other thread:



It will be nice to see how it develops, and we take on all suggestions, so thanks for bringing it up :D


I'm also interested to see how this turns out. I just really think it should have stayed like it was :(.

[Dan2nd]

Like said in the other thread even though I disagree with the change .. I'd like to wish you all good luck with this new venture I hope it goes well =]

[Immenseman]

Well... they really need to get it right first time or it'll instantly get a bad reputation and like HxHD for the last few years will always be the runt of the departments..

even though I hate the idea of the lounge I'd like to wish all of the staff good luck with it :)

It's like they've half changed it. Scrapped HxHD yet kept same room owner, same management structure and same staff all of which were the main reasons that HxHD failed in the first place, it just doesn't make sense.

[Dan2nd]

It's like they've half changed it. Scrapped HxHD yet kept same room owner, same management structure and same staff all of which were the main reasons that HxHD failed in the first place, it just doesn't make sense.

Well it's sort of a chance for the management of HxHD to proove that HxHD was quiet because Help desks have become less popular like it has been claimed and it was not because they were bad at being manager...

I think it was fair to give Jay and Leah a chance to carry on as managers or w.e I hope they manage to pull it off.. but at the same time I can kinda see where you're coming from it's like the staff of Woolworths opening up a new store and trying again :P

[Immenseman]

Well it's sort of a chance for the management of HxHD to proove that HxHD was quiet because Help desks have become less popular like it has been claimed and it was not because they were bad at being manager...

I think it was fair to give Jay and Leah a chance to carry on as managers or w.e I hope they manage to pull it off.. but at the same time I can kinda see where you're coming from it's like the staff of Woolworths opening up a new store and trying again :P

Fair play to them for acknowledging the problem but I don't see how exactly anything is going to change now, it's not getting to the root of the problem, taking short cuts don't work.

[Dan2nd]

Just thought I'd post what could be the last person 'helped' in HxHD congrats David :P

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7861/screenie1768286688iazauz4.jpg

[leah]

I love your sig jake lol "frudge"
also I do agree that its sad to see the help desk go, but not many people ask for help anymore, more use it to "chill".

[buttons]

Just thought I'd post what could be the last person 'helped' in HxHD congrats David :P

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7861/screenie1768286688iazauz4.jpg
he's helping someone atm too :P funny how they all start asking for help when it's just changing lol

[nvrspk4]

It wasn't announced perfectly and some details are missing. However the details have been hammered out so just sit tight and trust us, we've thought of as much as we could, we're going to release it as we had planned to and make changes as we go.

[Angel-Light]

I am just wondering however as to why you need both a manager and an assistant manager plus the many staff to moderate the room??

Aren't they kinda going to be doing nothing apart from sitting there and kicking people who may misbehave?

This whole general management owning thing I was against since 8Freak8 started it a couple of years ago. I personally think this room will last a month max and then bye bye HxHD forever :)

Sad to say it but I think it will happen

[Immenseman]

I am just wondering however as to why you need both a manager and an assistant manager plus the many staff to moderate the room??

Aren't they kinda going to be doing nothing apart from sitting there and kicking people who may misbehave?

This whole general management owning thing I was against since 8Freak8 started it a couple of years ago. I personally think this room will last a month max and then bye bye HxHD forever :)

Sad to say it but I think it will happen

I agree and the sad thing is I think it can work. I'm not a big fan of the way this has been approached "lets see what happens" I'd rather they made wholesome changes now. Told staff they were surplus to requirements and just kept the super staff or something. As well as the "manager" owning the room. They need 8 staff max most of the staff don't even attend the desk anyway - well certainly not enough.

[HotelUser]

I am just wondering however as to why you need both a manager and an assistant manager plus the many staff to moderate the room??

Aren't they kinda going to be doing nothing apart from sitting there and kicking people who may misbehave?

This whole general management owning thing I was against since 8Freak8 started it a couple of years ago. I personally think this room will last a month max and then bye bye HxHD forever :)

Sad to say it but I think it will happen


You're probably right, Hayley.

When this was announced everyone was saying why HxHD would even need staff anymore:P.

A lot of people do come in to the help desk because they see it's called HxHD as they know it's Habbox and that's something they're familiar with. Many staff members don't help habbos who come in for help when it's HxHD now. When the help section is entirely removed nobody is going to be helped. This is a downgrade.

[today]

I agree, i doubt it'll stick.

[Immenseman]

I agree, i doubt it'll stick.

It's unlikely but we have to give it a go first, see what happens. Who knows it could take off and be full 24/7. :P

[GommeInc]

Meh, it was a popular room, but it's so easy to get and find help with Habbo things now. Fansite guides and the Habbo FAQs are all you ever need for help.

But having it just as a lounge means there's no reason to go there now, really. Unless you turned it into a Help Lounge and staff just answer peoples questions in the freedom of walking around the room, without a desk dividing them. It could work :)

[scottish]

From what im aware its going to be sorta help room, but no desks etc just open space, i can't see it working, everyones just using old HxHD room now ;)

[.Zi]

HxPL - Habbox Party Room
HxHD - Habbox Help Desk
HxHL - Habbox Help Lounge

Imo, you need to choose from those, I mean, well idk - just choose. HxHD attracted people needing help alot a while back - but it did begin to die, so what do you do? You remove it. BANG - gone.. NO! You spice it up - give it a flare and hold daily competitions in it - thats my opinion.

[scottish]

No chance of party room please, 99% of Radio listeners are idiots thus irritate/annoy me and others.

[Alex3213]

No chance of party room please, 99% of Radio listeners are idiots thus irritate/annoy me and others.

I have to agree :(. I think it should be HxHL.

[--ss--]

Previously HxHD is taking over - 8freak8 :)

[leah]

It's unlikely but we have to give it a go first, see what happens. Who knows it could take off and be full 24/7. :P
I agree with Immenseman! seeing as the desk was usually used for chilling anyway having a chill out room can't be such a bad thing? Eespecially if it offers help too!

[Dan2nd]

yeah but what is the difference between a chill room offering help and a help room offering somewhere to chill?

[leah]

HxHD was a HELP desk, so if someone was looking for somewhere to chill they wouldn't see "Habbox Help Desk" and think ... I'll go there.
They would look for a lounge or chill room :)
seeing as HxHD was mainly used for chilling Jay the decision was made to make it into a Chill room :)

[scottish]

HxHD had a known room, HxHL will not be known or whatever the hell its going to be ;)

People are just gonna use 8freak8's room anyways so its all good.

[leah]

you can do what you like but that room isn't official
I don't see why you're trying to cause problems for the lounge before it's even opened.

[scottish]

For a start it wasn't my idea so don't even accuse me, and its because people like hxhd, not some room which is going to be full of idiots from radio no doubt. :P

The luonge will fail soon anyways so.

[Alkaz]

It took years for HxHD to get the popularity it has almost always had. Maybe now is the time for a change so that popularity doesnt go down. Regular users will be in the new room which will bring new people. Any way the OLD HxHD room is under refurbishment atm so it looks like it will be in their so for everyone who has favourtied it they will still be able to go in their.

[Dan2nd]

If it's not offcial it shouldn't cause you any problems then Leah, I don't know about the others but I'm certainly not trying to cause any problems I'm just hanging there because the previous place I enjoyed hanging at was closed I had to just find the next closest thing. :)

[FlyingJesus]

It's unlikely but we have to give it a go first, see what happens. Who knows it could take off and be full 24/7. :P

I agree with Immenseman! seeing as the desk was usually used for chilling anyway having a chill out room can't be such a bad thing? Eespecially if it offers help too!

You would agree :P but surely a chillout room offering help IS a helpdesk? People often go to helpdesks to chill, no-one goes to a lounge to ask questions


HxHD had a known room, HxHL will not be known or whatever the hell its going to be ;)

This is the main problem I see. Changing the name of something always takes a while to sink in for everyone and doesn't always even recover let alone surpass the previous.

Furthermore, the theme of the room has now been lost. As HxHD it did have some sort of purpose even if the staff didn't fulfill it and members didn't use it much, but now it really is just a chat room like any other. The only long term successful "lounge" type rooms I can think of are Gothic House and Landa's Gay Girl Bar which have been around for years with various owners and exist as they do only because of the large friendbase they garner. With nothing to now offer, I don't see any reason why anyone other than the regulars would now visit HxLounge - other than perhaps for HxL events and parties, and we've seen what peoples' sentiments about that are.

[scottish]

You would agree :P but surely a chillout room offering help IS a helpdesk? People often go to helpdesks to chill, no-one goes to a lounge to ask questions



This is the main problem I see. Changing the name of something always takes a while to sink in for everyone and doesn't always even recover let alone surpass the previous.

Furthermore, the theme of the room has now been lost. As HxHD it did have some sort of purpose even if the staff didn't fulfill it and members didn't use it much, but now it really is just a chat room like any other. The only long term successful "lounge" type rooms I can think of are Gothic House and Landa's Gay Girl Bar which have been around for years with various owners and exist as they do only because of the large friendbase they garner. With nothing to now offer, I don't see any reason why anyone other than the regulars would now visit HxLounge - other than perhaps for HxL events and parties, and we've seen what peoples' sentiments about that are.

If HxL did party in it it would make it even less popular imho, as the only time hxl listeners are gonna be in there is when theres a DJ on thats in that room, other than that they'll be in other rooms, but as HxL comes in it means more people get annoyed at the hxl members and go there less, decreasing popularity imho..

As there changing the name, i think people are saying "Oh it doesnt matter they all search nvrspk4 anyways" but i doubt they do, even i type [HxHD] when i want to go there, and now it's not gonna be there so less people again.

[GoldenMerc]

The lounge is going to be full of DJ's brining the listners in shouting habboxlive.com !!!!!!!!!!!!!1111, HxHD was good because no one really did that untill one of the managers allowed it.
Everyones in 8f8's room anyways now :P

[scottish]

The lounge is going to be full of DJ's brining the listners in shouting habboxlive.com !!!!!!!!!!!!!1111, HxHD was good because no one really did that untill one of the managers allowed it.
Everyones in 8f8's room anyways now :P

The fact that 99% of HxHD (or whatever its gonna be called) staff are DJ's doesn't help the fact now, so its most liekly gonna be full of the 11 year old idiots shouting it.

[HotelUser]

HxHD was a HELP desk, so if someone was looking for somewhere to chill they wouldn't see "Habbox Help Desk" and think ... I'll go there.
They would look for a lounge or chill room :)
seeing as HxHD was mainly used for chilling Jay the decision was made to make it into a Chill room :)

Leah you've been staff long enough to know that's certainly not true. You know people go in there and use the room as a lounge. I've even seen you throw parties in the help desk before.

We just got 8freak8's help desk the most 2nd popular help room. We didn't fill the entire room up with people who want help.


I agree with Immenseman! seeing as the desk was usually used for chilling anyway having a chill out room can't be such a bad thing? Eespecially if it offers help too!


People still do come in the help desk for help. Yesterday there was at least 6 people who I personally helped. The staff have been struggling to help users as it is. If someone needs help and if they even do come into the lounge (which doesn't say help in the name), they're going to have a hard time finding anyone who will help them.



HxPL - Habbox Party Room
HxHD - Habbox Help Desk
HxHL - Habbox Help Lounge

Imo, you need to choose from those, I mean, well idk - just choose. HxHD attracted people needing help alot a while back - but it did begin to die, so what do you do? You remove it. BANG - gone.. NO! You spice it up - give it a flare and hold daily competitions in it - thats my opinion.

Once again, it doesn't have to be pick and choose. As HxHD it was a lounge and a help desk. By making it just a lounge you're removing the desk.

[GoldenMerc]

Plus they just hired a Senior DJ as Assistant manager of it. so *yawn*

[Alkaz]

^ I didnt realise that Ross :P But anyway, Habbox has alot of good content and guides and other information which could be put into the desk along with other URL's and information from Habbo for people who might want help, which is good because their isnt really a demand for help desks but it would allow people to still get some form of help.

[Calvin]

Plus they just hired a Senior DJ as Assistant manager of it. so *yawn*

Head DJ* lol.

And i'll deffo stick with 8f8's room :D

[GoldenMerc]

I swear head DJ and senior DJ are the same

[FlyingJesus]

The method for appointing manager/asst. manager was pretty good I hear

[Bren]

why does a lounge need management though

[GoldenMerc]

Personally CHA!NGANG should of got it, he put so much effort into making the helpdesk system work, He should be manager in my eyes. Way before Leah.

[buttons]

The method for appointing manager/asst. manager was pretty good I hear
hahah not really. it was voting i think. thehelp desk staff had to vote someone else they wanted it to be. doubt anyone actually voted in that sense 'cause everythings down to popularity

[FlyingJesus]

hahah not really. it was voting i think. thehelp desk staff had to vote someone else they wanted it to be. doubt anyone actually voted in that sense 'cause everythings down to popularity

Yeah that's what I meant, I added a hint of sarcasm to my debate stew for flavour :P and come on people let's not be too harsh on Leah, it's not her fault all the staff who voted are 12 year virgins who happened to cotton on to the fact that she is somewhat female.

She'd kill me if she knew how :8

[Dan2nd]

Yeah ^^ thats what I have been saying it's not her fault she was chosen we should be blaming the people who didn't offer John the job instead of the person it was offered to :)

[Sammeth.]

Management positions are not decided on from votes, so I don't know where that has all come from.

[PaulMacC]

You cant really just say your not asst. manager now can you and you have to move on with it.

[Dan2nd]

Management positions are not decided on from votes, so I don't know where that has all come from.



How come the staff are saying there was a vote then sam :S

[buttons]

Management positions are not decided on from votes, so I don't know where that has all come from.

I didnt vote for Leah;)
You cant really just say your not asst. manager now can you and you have to move on with it.
so which is it then? leah even said she voted for john


oh lol paul changed his post :P

[Alkaz]

so which is it then? leah even said she voted for john
Ditto, when I was talking to her on msn she said exactly the same thing.

[HotelUser]

Management positions are not decided on from votes, so I don't know where that has all come from.

They're not just decided by votes, but if the desk manager wanted to poll the staff for feedback can't they? I remember Bren asking us who should be assistant manager in 2007 when he was desk manager.

[Sammeth.]

so which is it then? leah even said she voted for john


oh lol paul changed his post :P
If someone did ask them to vote on a management position, the request was not from general management and nor were the votes considered in the overall decision. As far as I know, Super Staff and Team Leaders were asked for opinions on normal staff and that's as far as it went.

[FlyingJesus]

I choose you, Charizard!

[Mathew]

Thought I'd mention this...

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=545989

Just wondering what made everyones opinions change?

Post #100. :P

[Dan2nd]

My opinion in that thread hasn't changed all I basically said was some of the staff were rubbish I still think that now.. I didn't say I think HxHD should be changed :P

[FlyingJesus]

{other thread}Most of the staff when I go in are afk (if there at all) but as Scott said, if it weren't for the staff going in there everyone would see it empty and stay out, so the staff and wannabe staff are still necessary to get the ball rolling. If it was changed to a chill lounge it would lose this and also lose the name that HxHD has built up - people KNOW that there is an HxHD around, if it was changed to Habbox Chill Lounge or whatever then it would be a new spinoff and those don't work (see: everyone fansite that's come out of Hx/HxF other than hhgs).

Basically what's needed is to just make sure that staff are actually there and talking rather than just going afk behind the bars.

My opinion never changed :P I still disagree with the change

[HotelUser]

Thought I'd mention this...

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=545989

Just wondering what made everyones opinions change?

Post #100. :P

I've already seen that, I still disagree with the desk being changed:P.

[Immenseman]

Because people will moan regardless... I think it needed more changes. Why would you keep the same management and staff from a failing department and put them all into the same department again, it's asking for it to fail. The ideas are right, the attention to detail isn't.

[GoldenMerc]

I agree, But remeber ages back nvr took control and became manager, that worked for a while.

[Dan2nd]

Yeah only because he was AGM and more 'scary' to the staff :P

[GoldenMerc]

But he made the staff work, obviously other managers are finding that hard or favouring there friends to be staff.

[Alkaz]

Because people will moan regardless... I think it needed more changes. Why would you keep the same management and staff from a failing department and put them all into the same department again, it's asking for it to fail. The ideas are right, the attention to detail isn't.
Well said Immense Man.

[scottish]

Yh but nvrs not on during the day so can't cehck if people are on alot etc, needs complete new staff imho

starting with galaxay as manager imho

[HotelUser]

Because people will moan regardless... People are always moaning:
I think it needed more changes. Why would you keep the same management and staff from a failing department and put them all into the same department again, it's asking for it to fail.
:P.

You wern't directing that at anyone particular, but I don't moan. If I don't like something I speak my mind:D.

[GoldenMerc]

Yh but nvrs not on during the day so can't cehck if people are on alot etc, needs complete new staff imho

starting with galaxay as manager imho
That would cause a global earthquake.

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah only because he was AGM and more 'scary' to the staff :P

They needed someone a bit scarier frankly. Nothing wrong with being friendly to staff but if they're not working then they need to be disciplined, and if that had happened then there wouldn't have been these problems and HxHD would have been a more respectable department which didn't need to change

[GoldenMerc]

They needed someone a bit scarier frankly. Nothing wrong with being friendly to staff but if they're not working then they need to be disciplined, and if that had happened then there wouldn't have been these problems and HxHD would have been a more respectable department which didn't need to change
100% agreed.

[Alkaz]

I dont think staff being more disciplined would have stopped the desk becoming more of a lounge. It was bound to happen one day, that day happens to be today (yesterda).

[Dan2nd]

Yeah but then Hecktix got fired for being to scary :(

[GoldenMerc]

He fired me twice :(
But to be honest being 'scary' does work, Specially if it was nvrspk4 he is bare scary :o

[scottish]

I think i've been hired under every manager apart from current.

[Alkaz]

Even if people had been more scary it wouldnt have stopped help desks dieing in general and HxHD closing has marked the end of that era imo. Lounges are the way foward.
+ Scott, we must have been drugged lol.

[GoldenMerc]

I think i've been hired under every manager apart from current.
What did you pay them, i paid hecktix 2 hcs

[FlyingJesus]

But a lounge doesn't offer anything and has no theme to bring people in. It's like making a "teen forum" or something - it has a target audience but it's too general and doesn't offer anything specific to appeal to anyone

[Immenseman]

Scott I hope I didn't hire you lol

[Alkaz]

HxHD didnt really do that either, I cannot remember the last time someone came in who needed help. If people do, then help could be written on stickies around the room like in the old help desks but a lounge is much better imo.

[GoldenMerc]

I remeber when one of the managers told me to pay 10 hcs to be assistant manager, like to narrowly put me through the ranks i have chat logs of it. i couln't stop laughing 8-)

[Dan2nd]

Joe if you go a few pages back you'll see a screen shot of someone being helped by David last night :P

Edit: there we go:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7861/screenie1768286688iazauz4.jpg

[Immenseman]

That's one example, people don't generally need help anymore. ClubHabbo's room and HFFM room are both very popular, neither are help desks.

[Alkaz]

I said I cant remember the last time. I cbb going back but ye, it isnt often someone needs help and the lounge could still provide a level of that. Anyway their isnt no going back now, regardless of the discussion.

[buttons]

well it seems the only people that wanted to work there while it was still help desk was DJs so i'm guessing it's only gonna be that kind of people "working" there again "/

actually there was alot of people asking for help yesterday :S only david was helping lmao. when the lounge got announced and people asked for help 3 of the old staff said "**** OFF NO HELP HERE" ;)

[GoldenMerc]

Its going to be a HabboxLive spam room :o
HxLsr

[buttons]

Its going to be a HabboxLive spam room :o
HxLsr
already is

[FlyingJesus]

Not doing much as a help desk is better than doing nothing at all as a lounge. Joe you say a lounge is "much better", but why? It serves literally no function and will as far as anyone can tell just be a DJ party/event room

[Alkaz]

Why try and hold on to it untill no one needs help? Habbo and Habbox provide sufficent help and if people do want help in the lounge then they could still ask but I doubt it will be often or / read stickies with information which wont require a full department to do that. And in a lounge their will be alot more room for 25 people to move around in.

[PaulMacC]

How about a tribute room for me.

[Immenseman]

lol i still have rights in 8f8 room being kicked by that immature user hoteluser though

[FlyingJesus]

Why try and hold on to it untill no one needs help? Habbo and Habbox provide sufficent help and if people do want help in the lounge then they could still ask but I doubt it will be often or / read stickies with information which wont require a full department to do that. And in a lounge their will be alot more room for 25 people to move around in.

So it's a space issue then, which could have been resolved by redesigning the room rather than the department. That doesn't really answer what bonus there is from this change (other than perhaps a lower number of useless staff)

[HotelUser]

Why try and hold on to it untill no one needs help? Habbo and Habbox provide sufficent help and if people do want help in the lounge then they could still ask but I doubt it will be often or / read stickies with information which wont require a full department to do that. And in a lounge their will be alot more room for 25 people to move around in.

Nobody will bother to help in a lounge.


That's one example, people don't generally need help anymore. ClubHabbo's room and HFFM room are both very popular, neither are help desks.
ClubHabbo's desk has a bar in it though, and it functions as a lounge?


HxHD didnt really do that either, I cannot remember the last time someone came in who needed help. If people do, then help could be written on stickies around the room like in the old help desks but a lounge is much better imo.
Last night after it was announced the desk was closing:
http://i41.tinypic.com/1zlwrnl.png

http://i42.tinypic.com/5x31mp.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/2zggdco.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/acv9l1.png

there were a few more people than that too like the person Dan posted. Staff say there's nobody to help a lot of the time, but they're never around when people need help.





lol i still have rights in 8f8 room being kicked by that immature user hoteluser though

A lot of immaturity going around these days:eusa_whis.

[Immenseman]

haha crazy the kick wars had to end because i went for dinner

[HotelUser]

What's this about voting people out? Is this Habbox or Big Brother? James was just fired I assume; he has no perms.

[Immenseman]

I think some of the staff are a bit annoyed so saying stupid things, lol

[nvrspk4]

Not to throw Jayson under the bus but his announcement at the prom was...rather incomplete :P So not everything was included.

[leah]

Yeah that's what I meant, I added a hint of sarcasm to my debate stew for flavour :P and come on people let's not be too harsh on Leah, it's not her fault all the staff who voted are 12 year virgins who happened to cotton on to the fact that she is somewhat female.

She'd kill me if she knew how :8
There wasn't a vote, Jay asked us who he thought would suit each role in the desk, assistant manager was included, however the decision wasn't based on that because it's usually agreed between the General Management and the Department Manager.
and what does the bit in bold mean? lol.

I choose you, Charizard!
Poke'mon.

[Immenseman]

There wasn't a vote, Jay asked us who he thought would suit each role in the desk, assistant manager was included, however the decision wasn't based on that because it's usually agreed between the General Management and the Department Manager.
and what does the bit in bold mean? lol.

Poke'mon.

James said that he was told he didn't get enough votes so is no longer staff which is strange because he was one of the few members of help desk staff who actually used Habbo?

[buttons]

James said that he was told he didn't get enough votes so is no longer staff which is strange because he was one of the few members of help desk staff who actually used Habbo?
so not all help desk staff used habbo?!?!?!!??! strange.

[Immenseman]

so not all help desk staff used habbo?!?!?!!??! strange.

it was strange, very strange.

[FlyingJesus]

Half of them didn't unless Jai was actually on

[scottish]

Thats pretty stupid and VERY poorly ran if it turns out to votes lmao. Imho like 90% of HxHD staff should be fired and new staff should be hired.

Atm the managements poor, so it encourages the staff not to come in, cause if they don't come in then they're not being punished. So when trialists are hired they're active during the trial, soon as they pass they come in less as they learn from other staff that if you don't come in nothing happens, and it keeps on going and causes epic failure.

[J0SH]

I should own it, I'm on everyday and more than more of the managers and everything, there should atleast be a decent member of staff who's going to own it such as CHA!NGANG / LeahRAWRR etc..

[scottish]

I should own it, I'm on everyday and more than more of the managers and everything, there should atleast be a decent member of staff who's going to own it such as CHA!NGANG / LeahRAWRR etc..

AGM/GM or something should always own it.

But manage its different, john deserves to manage much more than leah.

[uje]

Habbo help deasks are alot of work, it takes days of running if you want to make it propperly, yes it is easy to make a hepdeask that runs itself with poor staff ect, but to make one propperly it takes months of hard work, and unfortinatly the demand for it is not how it used to be.

I think that changing it to a lounge for habbox users to come and hang out is a good idea, because most of the time thats what people in helpdeasks do.

[Immenseman]

I don't think AGM/GM should own it, the manager should if they actually want it to work, anyway.

[J0SH]

I don't mind who designs it, but yeah, we need a good manager :P

[Immenseman]

I know why it makes sense for an AGM/GM to own it but it really isn't practical considering none of them use Habbo regularly.

[scottish]

And the fact their on during midnight doesn't help the fact.

But i remember trying to get it changed before, and they wouldn't budge instead they'd rather watch the dept fail so, :P

[J0SH]

I know why it makes sense for an AGM/GM to own it but it really isn't practical considering none of them use Habbo regularly.

Exactly :) Immenseman should own it :love3:

[Immenseman]

No lol, I'm in the HFFM lounge more than HxHD because Carnio gave me rights :D I just think whoever is manager should own the room, I know this has bad points to it but I think the positives far outweigh the negatives.

[Dan2nd]

I think it all depends on who the manager is.. I remember everyone suggesting that the manager should own HxHD when I was manager .. I was really worried that ---MAD--- would agree because I had no furni at the time :P

But yeah if the manager has the furni to do so and seems to be the kind of person who will stick around yep they should be aloud if they want to, to have ownership of the room

[Immenseman]

I think it all depends on who the manager is.. I remember everyone suggesting that the manager should own HxHD when I was manager .. I was really worried that that ---MAD--- would agree because I had no furni at the time :P

But yeah if the manager has the furni to do so and seems to be the kind of person who will stick around yep they should be aloud if they want to, to have ownership of the room

Nvrspk4 doesn't own the furni that is in the room ATM if I remember rightly, lol. I don't think it's too much of an issue but unless the manager does own it soon then unfortunately I can't see anything changing from how crap hxhd was before it closed.

[Jaiisun]

Wow - it seems a lot of people have opinions! I've ready through each and every one of them and i'd reply to them all.. but it would take an age!

So, when the changes are made, I'll make sure a thread is posted with all the details, along with answered to the most important questions!
;)

Jay xo

[Immenseman]

We look forward to the changes :)

[HotelUser]

I should own it, I'm on everyday and more than more of the managers and everything, there should atleast be a decent member of staff who's going to own it such as CHA!NGANG / LeahRAWRR etc..
No you shouldn't :P. I think Habbox should focus more on sorting out the staff and not so much about who owns the room.



We look forward to the changes :)
We:O?

[Immenseman]

No you shouldn't :P. I think Habbox should focus more on sorting out the staff and not so much about who owns the room.



We:O?

We as in the people who has posted in this thread quite a few times who actually care what happens aka me you dan and others I've forgotten.

[buttons]

me!!!!!!!!!!

[--ss--]

Tbh --ss-- should be the manager.

[Dan2nd]

I don't want the changes to be made but at the same time I am looking forward to see what happens - I mean I'd prefer that I am prooved wrong and the department grows than it turn into an epic fail and what ever is left of HxHD is gone forever..

[Immenseman]

jen you don't care, don't lie YOU ARE NOT DEDICATED TO IMPROVING HABBOX LIKE ME.

[leah]

jen you don't care, don't lie YOU ARE NOT DEDICATED TO IMPROVING HABBOX LIKE ME.
Jen just likes to critisize ;)
love her tho xoxo
and yeh we're in the process of making it now so it should be good :)

[xBenxx]

Tbh --ss-- should be the manager.

Rather that, than leah.

[Jaiisun]

LeahRAWRR is the Assistant Manager and has already done work behind the scenes, without you guys even knowing it! She deserves more credit than she is being given.

Rather than be bitter about the whole thing, how about you congratulate her, wish her luck and give it time so that we can get everything up and running?

;)

[xBenxx]

What work is there exactly on running a lounge? Making sure theres enough water in the virtual water cooler? Make sure the clubhabbo sofa's are clean.

[leah]

Management need to look after staff and be in the lounge regularly :)

[xBenxx]

why :/

[nvrspk4]

The announcement wasn't made correctly and therefore the debate is going on without a full understanding of what the help desk is. This is quite frankly, pointless.

Therefore, I am locking this thread. When the announcement about the new HxHD is made, then you may open a new thread discussing the merits and demerits of the new version.

Until then, debate based on speculation has no benefits except harsh words and ill-concieved comments.