Chris Brown attacked Rihanna with 'deadly weapon' [Archive]

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09-02-2009, 07:10 PM

http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-09-chris-brown-arrested-for-allegedly-assaulting-rihanna

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/music/article2218715.ece
*since the sun published their article its been confirmed the WOMAN was Rihanna*

http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-09-chris-brown-may-not-see-time-behind-bars

http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-09-chris-brown-charged-with-assault-with-a-deadly-weapon

i dont look anywhere else, i guess its on other gossip websites/newspapers?
wait it says on there he bailed himself $50,000 so maybe that's why he isn't serving time?

stickwitu

09-02-2009, 07:10 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,489725,00.html

“The exact charge was criminal threats and it is going to be investigated as a criminal threats investigation,” said Police Sgt. Bridgett Pickett. “There may be domestic violence charges added later, but that will be up to the district attorney’s office.”

N-Dubz

09-02-2009, 07:10 PM

why isn't she gonna get him done :S

she has pressed charges, thats why hes got court in March?

Rozi

09-02-2009, 07:27 PM

That's shocking.

But to be honest, I hope it doesn't become really over covered in the press.

N-Dubz

09-02-2009, 07:29 PM

Chris brown attacked Rihanna with a deadly weapon - though the weapon that he used is still unknown.

It's also being said that he won't even do time for his crime.

Thoughts? I just think this is a little bit suspicious, there's got to be more to this story. Whatever there hiding must come out soon!!!

Bets on self defence on Chris Browns behalf?

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=cf213d72-e77b-49a4-95a5-9ca10d302c7f
the pair on Sunday morning just after midnight, things looked okay here but Chris looked well... weird and kept touching his nose :rolleyes:

Reports are also saying that Rihanna suffered contusions and bites!

but there is still no news on the weapon, or if one was even USED.

theres also rumours that the fight began because rihanna gave cb an STD LOL!

stickwitu

09-02-2009, 07:29 PM

VIDEO BEFORE IT HAPPENED: http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=cf213d72-e77b-49a4-95a5-9ca10d302c7f

"This shot was taken as the couple left Clive Davis' Grammy party in Beverly Hills just after midnight on Sunday morning.

One interesting thing -- they overshot their hotel by miles, ending up in Hancock Park, miles east of their West Hollywood hotel. We don't know where they were heading."

they keep touching their noses.
COKE.

Casual

09-02-2009, 10:04 PM

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=cf213d72-e77b-49a4-95a5-9ca10d302c7f
the pair on Sunday morning just after midnight, things looked okay here but Chris looked well... weird and kept touching his nose :rolleyes:

Reports are also saying that Rihanna suffered contusions and bites!

but there is still no news on the weapon, or if one was even USED.

theres also rumours that the fight began because rihanna gave cb an STD LOL!

the bites part could be what rihanna likes to get while having sex? :S jeez just because he's a celeb its the top of everyones mind! things like this happen everyday but you don't see everyone crowding round going OMG OMG OMG OMG

5,5

09-02-2009, 10:06 PM

the deadly weapn was his hands actually. he turned himself in than got out on $50,000 bond. Witnesses said he was driving with her in a rented lambo and got out of the car and they continued in their argument and he struck her then drove away.

thats what I heard on the radio this morning

lil...hotti

09-02-2009, 10:06 PM

:o
Ithought they were Madly inlove
:L
Hmm shows Yound singers Nowadays

Captain

09-02-2009, 10:12 PM

dont worry rihanna im here 4 u xx

luce

09-02-2009, 10:16 PM

lmao i very much doubt it

same links to news stories :D

RedStratocas

09-02-2009, 10:39 PM

she should have fought him with her umbrella

ella, ella, ay, ay, ay.

5,5

10-02-2009, 01:20 AM

she should have fought him with her umbrella

ella, ella, ay, ay, ay.
buh dum dum chee

IceNineKills

10-02-2009, 01:44 AM

N-Dubz

10-02-2009, 02:23 PM

to the person who said about "sex" i very much doubt it, but still theres more then just bite marks anyway.

heres whats just been reported by PerezHilton:

There is serious swelling and bruising. Rihanna's lip is split and her nose bloody. And, there are indeed bite marks on one of her arms and on several fingers.

Rihanna claims Chris struck her with his fists and that's what did the damage.

RiRi refused treatment at the scene but did go to the hospital later on Sunday.

Even if she does not cooperate with authorities, the photos alone are said to be "devastating proof of abuse."

Oh, and it was not Rihanna who called 911. Someone in the area heard her screams and called. Thank God for that!

US sources said he lashed out after the Umbrella singer accused him of flirting with another woman. (i think there was so much more to it then that tbh.)

I think Chris Brown could have just made the biggest mistake of his life... wonder if hes hit her before.

Jord

10-02-2009, 11:32 PM

Lol is she okay?

Ras

11-02-2009, 12:43 AM

i hate rihanna anyway.. but okay i also hate chris brown.. so i dont give a ..
nice news though.

Richie

11-02-2009, 02:09 AM

What a ****ing idiot!
If you hit a woman, your not a man.

Stupid woman basher!

I hope someone gives him a good kick in!

Calm Richie calm

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 10:38 AM

A source from Chris Brown's camp has released a story, which I believe to make complete sense tbh.

They were in the car leaving the Clive Davis party. While Chris was driving, he got a phone call from a young lady. Our source tells us that Rihanna knew that Chris had been messing around with this particular girl and she has, as of late, been the reason for many of their heated arguments (my own input in this is that Rihanna has serious jealousy issues, look at her not letting Alexandra Burke into Cb's party because she fancied him, he probably wasn't doing anything with the girl). Rihanna got a glimpse of the phone, saw the name and number and immediately recognized who it was. She went ballistic and began to hit him whilst he was driving. She was so uncontrollable, that Chris began to fight back in self defense, which ensued the fight.

Okay now think about that, this actually makes more sense than anything else I can think of. If someones throwing there hands in your face and beating you, I'm sorry but you would bite there arm/fingers to get them away (you wouldnt really in a fight think hi let me bite your fingers). All he would have do is swing his arm around to try and hold her back to hit her in the face.

It makes more sense then anything I've heard from Rihanna's camp, if I was a man and some crazy maniac started attacking me whilst I was driving ... I'd smack her in her face, sorry but hello? I don't want to crash the car, and I don't want to die either to be honest.

I guess he'll still be the criminal though for hitting a woman... because he was trying to save both of their lives.

11-02-2009, 10:47 AM

He's 19, obv hes gonna have a temper but yar dno how much of one.

Art

11-02-2009, 11:16 AM

I was a man and some crazy maniac started attacking me whilst I was driving ... I'd smack her in her face, sorry but hello? I don't want to crash the car, and I don't want to die either to be honest.

I guess he'll still be the criminal though for hitting a woman... because he was trying to save both of their lives.

... you'd really smack them in their face? what the ****? YOURE DRIVING. PULL THE **** OVER AND WAIT FOR YOU TWO TO CALM THE **** DOWN.

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 11:23 AM

... you'd really smack them in their face? what the ****? YOURE DRIVING. PULL THE **** OVER AND WAIT FOR YOU TWO TO CALM THE **** DOWN.

if someone is throwing there hand in your face/attacking you whilst your driving... dont say you wouldnt react because you would. it would be very very distracting.

Jamie!

11-02-2009, 12:02 PM

Official press release from Chris Brown;

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Edited by ,Jess, (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter.

Colin-Roberts

11-02-2009, 12:58 PM

I agree with N-Dubz, the chris brown release makes way more sense then anything else.. If you were getting hit while driving you'd hit them back..

Immenseman

11-02-2009, 12:59 PM

still isn't any confirmation that the women is rihanna although with her cancelling her concerts i suppose it's relatively obvious haha

Richie

11-02-2009, 01:30 PM

if someone is throwing there hand in your face/attacking you whilst your driving... dont say you wouldnt react because you would. it would be very very distracting.

What id do is pull over immeditly, Then jump out of the car and run as fast as i could !

I cant believe some of you are thinking of hitting a woman!

In any situation you should never hit a woman, if i was out in a club etc and some guy hit a girl you know what id do hop on him and punch the head off him, dont think because im violent because im not, any other real guys would do the same thing.

Jasxn

11-02-2009, 01:47 PM

its not lies he did do it to her, no ones knows why yet though, we will just have to wait and find out.

Jamie!

11-02-2009, 02:24 PM

I cant believe some of you are thinking of hitting a woman!
Sometimes they need to be put back in their place.

:eusa_danc:eusa_danc:eusa_danc

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 02:31 PM

you wouldn't pull over immedinatly, you'd hit them back first or try and get them off... he was in a rented car and im sure he didnt really wanna damage it either to be honest.

it makes way more sense, and im still laughing over the threat Jay-Z made to Chris Brown. "He hit the roof. Chris is a walking dead man. He messed with the wrong crew."

not that anyone knows what truly happened, but if what the reliable source from chris brown's camp said is true then i think we should all just let it drop.

Richie

11-02-2009, 02:36 PM

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 02:43 PM

Your making it seem that Rihanna is like some buch lady, all he had to do was pull over asap whilst holding her back with one hand, theres no need for any man to hit a woman.

whos saying shes weak though? + he did manage to stop the car in the end, but imagine if she grabbed his face or was throwing her arms and hitting him you would need to get them out of your way.

i think the media have just made it out that he pulled over, rihanna being the innocent angel she is and he went "right im gonna beat the **** out of you now" lol.

Art

11-02-2009, 02:44 PM

Hitting back? Seriously, how old are we?

I completely agree with what DarkEnemy has said.

EDIT: Even if your girlfriend was throwing her arms and hitting you...... what ****** up person would punch their girlfriend in the face. Seriously.

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 02:46 PM

hitting him because a girl phoned him??? how old is she???

and ***** he probably swung his hand back and wacked her in the face.

Art

11-02-2009, 02:48 PM

.......

That doesnt mean he has to stoop to her level. Jesus.

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 02:49 PM

.......

That doesnt mean he has to stoop to her level. Jesus.

if someone kept hitting you and hitting you, your going to hit that person back.

but its clear we are not going to agree, so are we going to be childish and carry this on? :rolleyes:

Art

11-02-2009, 02:50 PM

Um no... I would try stop them from hitting me and try to calm them down. Especially if it was my girlfriend.

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 02:52 PM

Um no... I would try stop them from hitting me and try to calm them down. Especially if it was my girlfriend.

okay well thats what you would do, but if someone was to hit me i'd hit them back.

finished?

Richie

11-02-2009, 02:56 PM

whos saying shes weak though? + he did manage to stop the car in the end, but imagine if she grabbed his face or was throwing her arms and hitting him you would need to get them out of your way.

i think the media have just made it out that he pulled over, rihanna being the innocent angel she is and he went "right im gonna beat the **** out of you now" lol.

All we know is that he did smack her in the face, it has not been realesed with what happened in the car, Your making assumtions and theres no need to reply saying so am i, it has been all over the news that he beat her up, so know matter what hes a woman basher and he deserves a good kick in tbh.

Hitting back? Seriously, how old are we?

I completely agree with what DarkEnemy has said.

EDIT: Even if your girlfriend was throwing her arms and hitting you...... what ****** up person would punch their girlfriend in the face. Seriously.

Wow finaly someone with sence and understands what i mean :P

okay well thats what you would do, but if someone was to hit me i'd hit them back.

finished?

So your just after admiting that you would hit a girl?

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 03:00 PM

All we know is that he did smack her in the face, it has not been realesed with what happened in the car, Your making assumtions and theres no need to reply saying so am i, it has been all over the news that he beat her up, so know matter what hes a woman basher and he deserves a good kick in tbh.

okay, let me just tell you my point and we can stop trying to continue this never ending argument.
Someone from chris browns camp a "reliable" source released the statement that she began to beat him in the car, to me this makes the most sense - espically due to bite marks. If he was in the car and she threw her hands in his face.. he would bite them. It makes more sense then anything I have heard about this whole case, because the way she was beaten up also does suggest that he could have easily been him wacking her face to try and stop her or something.
Yeah but humans make mistakes, just because hes a celebrity he should be perfect? He's only ever done it once, and he was big enought to hand himself in and take the consquences ... and because he made this one mistakes his career should be over? He should begin getting threats from other celebrities? I don't think so...
YOU don't know what happened either, and I'm sure Rihanna gave as good as she got.

I am a female so of course I'd hit a girl. *****!!!!!! I do think what he did was right, espically if he was driving and she was attacking him.. shes putting there lives at risk... okay? thats my judgement and thats all i can say really.

Edit: if he actually got out the car and beat her up then no thats not right, but I don't believe thats what happened.

stickwitu

11-02-2009, 03:10 PM

i'm a guy and i wouldn't be afraid to hit a girl if she put my life at risk. i don't believe we should all gang up on chris brown when we don't know the full facts.

point is, i don't trust rihanna and far as i can throw her and with her big forehead that's not very far.

TopManTim

11-02-2009, 03:58 PM

Chris Brown To Rihanna: "I'm Going To Kill You!" (http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-11-chris-brown-to-rihanna-im-going-to-kill-you)

Casual

11-02-2009, 04:10 PM

Richie

11-02-2009, 04:42 PM

so you believe EVERYTHING in the media? LOL you need to open your eyes mate and also N-Dubz is a girl :rolleyes: so yeah i think she would hit a girl..

I didnt know that but a man should never hit a woman!

hitting him because a girl phoned him??? how old is she???

and ***** he probably swung his hand back and wacked her in the face.

Pobably - Thats just a guess

We know one thing he hit her and i dont care what she did he shoould never of hit a girl

It kind of explains why you are sticking up for him because maybe you are jelous of rihanna? lol

and im not sticking up for rihanna im sticking up for all woman in general no man should hit a woman

Immenseman

11-02-2009, 04:43 PM

kanye west has said he'll do anything he can to help rihanna maybe hes gna merk chris brown

TopManTim

11-02-2009, 04:44 PM

kanye west has said he'll do anything he can to help rihanna maybe hes gna merk chris brown

give credit to radio 1 newsbeat jake ;L;L

Rombix

11-02-2009, 04:45 PM

poor chris brown =[[ my guess is self defense doesnt seem the type but then again :)

Immenseman

11-02-2009, 04:45 PM

no tim, go away

Richie

11-02-2009, 04:47 PM

haha go kanye west chris brown needs to be thought a lesson tbh

Immenseman

11-02-2009, 04:48 PM

lol he obviously wont do anything, be bare jkz if he did

DeejayMachoo$

11-02-2009, 04:53 PM

I didnt know that but a man should never hit a woman!

It kind of explains why you are sticking up for him because maybe you are jelous of rihanna? lol

and im not sticking up for rihanna im sticking up for all woman in general no man should hit a woman

agreed 100 million %! never hit a woman end of.

Imnotpure

11-02-2009, 05:12 PM

i hate how everyone says never hit a woman, i dont support woman-beating at all but it makes it seem like women can go hit men whenever they like and its not half as wrong

Alkaz

11-02-2009, 05:13 PM

Apparently Rihanna was slapping him and distracting whilst he was driving, he pulled up and tried to get her out when this happened then he drove off. Ironically there was an umbrella ella ella in the car, would be funny if that was his 'weapon'.

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 05:22 PM

I didnt know that but a man should never hit a woman!

Pobably - Thats just a guess

We know one thing he hit her and i dont care what she did he shoould never of hit a girl

It kind of explains why you are sticking up for him because maybe you are jelous of rihanna? lol

and im not sticking up for rihanna im sticking up for all woman in general no man should hit a woman

How old are you? Jealous of what exactly? Lol!

I like Rihanna, but I dont agree that this is also Chris Brown's fault: the old saying, it takes two to tango comes to mind.

I'm sticking up for him because I personally don't think hes the type at all, and I don't think people should go around yelling abuse at him for something that has probably been over exagerated by media/press.

Even if I am a girl I still don't understand why if a man is being attacked by a woman it isn't fair to hit her back? Your not all amazingly strong and hard that you would hurt us more then we could ever hurt you. If I were a man and a woman was putting my life at risk/attacking me I'd hit her.

If the car incident was true, and she was beating the crap out of him in the car then to save his own life he ended up smacking her away I completly support him.

And Jay-z and Kanye can go cry themselves a river, no ones going to do nothing to Chris Brown, and if they do they'll be just as bad as him. ;)

Also, if he does get time for saying "I'm going to kill you" thats just pathetic, did he kill her? Did he go and hand himself in (which is a big thing to do)? Don't we all say stupid things when we are angry.

Virgin Mary

11-02-2009, 06:21 PM

Rihanna? A woman? More like an alien chimp from mars. Good, she deserved it.

stickwitu

11-02-2009, 07:24 PM

the most kanye will do is have a diva tantrum and stamp his pansy feet or hit him with a louis vuitton handbag.

Geraint

11-02-2009, 07:28 PM

Rihanna got beaten up by her fella, ella, ella.

I'll get my coat.

Richie

11-02-2009, 07:29 PM

How old are you? Jealous of what exactly? Lol!

I like Rihanna, but I dont agree that this is also Chris Brown's fault: the old saying, it takes two to tango comes to mind.

I'm sticking up for him because I personally don't think hes the type at all, and I don't think people should go around yelling abuse at him for something that has probably been over exagerated by media/press.

Even if I am a girl I still don't understand why if a man is being attacked by a woman it isn't fair to hit her back? Your not all amazingly strong and hard that you would hurt us more then we could ever hurt you. If I were a man and a woman was putting my life at risk/attacking me I'd hit her.

If the car incident was true, and she was beating the crap out of him in the car then to save his own life he ended up smacking her away I completly support him.

And Jay-z and Kanye can go cry themselves a river, no ones going to do nothing to Chris Brown, and if they do they'll be just as bad as him. ;)

Also, if he does get time for saying "I'm going to kill you" thats just pathetic, did he kill her? Did he go and hand himself in (which is a big thing to do)? Don't we all say stupid things when we are angry.

Your clearly sticking up for him because you are a chris brown fan just look at her sig ;)

TopManTim

11-02-2009, 07:33 PM

It All Started Over A Text??? (http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-11-more-on-chris-brown-rihanna)

PaulMacC

11-02-2009, 07:44 PM

The title should have been "Chris Brown attacks Rihanna with an umbrella, eh, eh eh, ella"
Okay all joking aside at least the guy turned himself in, dont see why he would do that though.

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 08:00 PM

Your clearly sticking up for him because you are a chris brown fan just look at her sig ;)
yh im a chris brown fan, that doesnt make me jealous of rihanna.

i liked her until this incident, she better not ruin cbs career else i will personally go beat her with a weapon my self..

:(

TopManTim

11-02-2009, 08:06 PM

yh im a chris brown fan, that doesnt make me jealous of rihanna.

i liked her until this incident, she better not ruin cbs career else i will personally go beat her with a weapon my self..

:(

incase you didn't notice rihanna wasn't the one abusing herself. it was chris so don't go blamin rihanna for this.

and also she wasn't the one to call the cops, he fled the scene when rihanna was unconcious and someone else called em, so again, don't go blamin rihanna for this.

N-Dubz

11-02-2009, 09:02 PM

incase you didn't notice rihanna wasn't the one abusing herself. it was chris so don't go blamin rihanna for this.

and also she wasn't the one to call the cops, he fled the scene when rihanna was unconcious and someone else called em, so again, don't go blamin rihanna for this.

he was provocked!!! maybe if she wasn't such a jealous attackin-you-while-your-driving cow we wouldnt have this whole dilemiaaaaaaa!!!!!

stickwitu

11-02-2009, 09:10 PM

I don't believe Rihanna is innocent. I've always said she was a talentless cow. Hopefully this will go to prove the cow bit, just not the talentless as she's done so many AWFUL performances yet people still regard her as brilliant when it's really just her writers and producers. She can't sing, dance or perform and acts like Beyonce put her to shame.

The best thing to come of this situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp3OfhwjAnE

TopManTim

11-02-2009, 10:23 PM

he was provocked!!! maybe if she wasn't such a jealous attackin-you-while-your-driving cow we wouldnt have this whole dilemiaaaaaaa!!!!!

Read the link that's about a text.

Yeah I'm not saying either story is right, we don't know yet although when Chris Browns sister spoke I don't know why she didn't say about being provoked if he was innocent.

Jord

11-02-2009, 10:27 PM

She might need plastic surgry says thesun:rolleyes:

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 01:39 PM

because you have a black eye and a bus lip you need plastic surgery now?

and let me underline something for you:
THESUN.co.uk

***** ALEX THATS HER NEXT HIT:))))))))))))))

well im on team chris brown till there's ACTUAL proof that rihanna isnt the jealous ***** that everyone says she is, and that she didn't provock him/attack while driving/give him an STD.....

and her side of the story which she said yesterday never made any sense at all.

Jord

12-02-2009, 01:42 PM

because you have a black eye and a bus lip you need plastic surgery now?

and let me underline something for you:
THESUN.co.uk

he probably was provocked, and rihannas story doesnt make sense at all.
she said that he got the text/call and she got out the car and he told her to get back in then he hit her.
So he wanted her to get back in, so he got out of the car walked all the way around and smacked her in the face?

i love chris brown & i honestly think people are just attacking him because he hit her, theres always a reason and theres always another side to the story.

Whats with the underlining on thesun

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 01:43 PM

Whats with the underlining on thesun

you actually believe the sun...?

Jord

12-02-2009, 01:46 PM

Yes I do.

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 01:48 PM

Yes I do.

ok xxxx

leah

12-02-2009, 01:57 PM

I didn't even know they were together LOL :rolleyes:

Crimson

12-02-2009, 03:44 PM

lolol funny :D

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 03:59 PM

February 10, 2009. A friend of Chris Brown reached out to MediaTakeOut.com, offering us this explanation of what happened on Saturday night:

[Rihanna is] outrageously jealous and insecure. So [Chris] would get into arguments and fights with her. He never hit her once but she'd [allegedly] smack him, bite him and scratch him and once he even got hit in the balls kinda' hard. So [she] got into the habit of hitting him because to her it was fine since he never hit her back.

[On Saturday night, Chris] finally told her to shut the f*ck up and it's over. So she socked the **** out of him while he was driving and kept on hitting him until he crashed into a parked car.

[Chris] then got out of the car and tried to pull her out and got hit in the face some more numerous times. Scratched up and everything.

Simply because he was done with all of the drama. Anyway when she smacked him this last time he smacked her back. So he [left Rihanna there alone].

Hurt from banging her face on the windshield/dashboard from the car accident [somebody] then called the cops and [Rihanna] told them that [Chris] whipped her ass.

[Later the next day, Chris] wanted to go get his things from her apt to go to a hotel and saw a million cop cars there.

So he left and when he sent us to retrieve his stuff, this girl didn't want to let us get his 6 bags of stuff. She said tell him to come get it himself … Tell him to answer his phone and that I'm sorry we can work this out. To which I said, hell no my friend isn't coming anywhere near here. It's too late for all of that. He just wants his luggage and you guys need never to see each other anymore….

Sh*t happens was definitely in effect and it's crazy how everyone can jump on a woman's side and not know what happened. Hind sight is 20/20 and I told [him that] he should've gotten out of the car and called the cops on her a*s when it was just him with scratches and ****.
and when you take this into account it doesn't seem completely unreasonable:

An interesting interview from Complex magazine with Rihanna back in 2007

COMPLEX: Did you see 300?
Rihanna:: 300 is one of the best movies I have ever seen. The choreography, the fighting, the costumes, the production—phenomenal. I make everybody watch it.

COMPLEX: So you didn’t think it was too violent.
Rihanna: Oh, not at all. That was the good part. I’m the oldest child with two brothers. We talk all the time now, but we used to fight—and when I say “fight,” I don’t mean arguments, I mean physically fight.

COMPLEX: Who won?
Rihanna::I hit the older one in his face with a glass bottle.

COMPLEX: Whoa. Remind me not to piss you off.
Rihanna::Yeah, my mom was pretty upset.

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 04:20 PM

that makes sense alex :-)

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 04:22 PM

yes, and whoever says chris brown's past makes him likely the one to blame should also refer to rihanna's past before making judgements.

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 04:25 PM

high five alex.

TEAM CHRIS BROWN!!!

Crimson

12-02-2009, 04:32 PM

yes, and whoever says chris brown's past makes him likely the one to blame should also refer to rihanna's past before making judgements.

Didn't she come up from a proper stuck up wealthy family tho? :o

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 04:46 PM

not at all.
her dad was a druggy and they kicked him out i think.
he's still in barbados selling stuff out of the back of his car.

Crimson

12-02-2009, 04:58 PM

rofl. Niiice.

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 04:59 PM

hers was a brotherly sisterly fight tbh, not quite the same thing.

anyway apparantly she got mad because he was flirting with leona! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/4598773/Rihanna-row-sparked-by-Chris-Brown-flirting-with-Leona-Lewis.html

not read the article yet, it's probably sensationalised.

oh and by the way TI and Terrence Howard have both taken back their comments suppoirting Chris Brown.

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 05:04 PM

no one would flirt with leona
might as well go to a stable and touch up a horse, it'd have more personality and the same looks.

such bull.

hers was a brotherly sisterly fight tbh, not quite the same thing.
..so how can we accuse chris brown as being a woman beater simply because his step father was? he despised his step father so i'd doubt he'd follow in his footsteps whatsoever. whatever the situation no one knows what has really happened, we can't base accusations upon pasts and ficticious reports from tabloids.

Crimson

12-02-2009, 05:08 PM

no one would flirt with leona
might as well go to a stable and touch up a horse, it'd have more personality and the same looks.

such bull.

Ouuuuuuch... D:

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 05:11 PM

im sorry but brotherly sister fight? I fight with sister all the time and I don't got around hitting a glass bottle of her head... and i've done some HORRIABLE things to my sister but never something like that, you'd have to have serious issues to do something like that.

as for the leona thing... cant he talk to a girl anymore? Lol. He had his hand around her back, and was laughing and joking with her ...

why doesnt everyone call Rihanna's brother a woman beater then??? Are brothers really meant to hit their sisters... isnt that still a woman? Huh I'm confused, double standards going on here!

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 05:23 PM

evidently the brother didn't press charges and was obviously cool with it, that's because of brotherly sisterly love. It's not the same as hitting your wife/his previous convictions.

anyway leona is denying the text/flirting.

http://www.mtv.co.uk/channel/mtvuk/news/474540-leona-lewis-denies-brown-rihanna-story

edit: ..so how can we accuse chris brown as being a woman beater simply because his step father was? he despised his step father so i'd doubt he'd follow in his footsteps whatsoever. whatever the situation no one knows what has really happened, we can't base accusations upon pasts and ficticious reports from tabloids. __________________

we're not accusing chris brown of being a woman beater simply because his step father was, he's baing accused of it because atm it looks like he is...

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 05:30 PM

it looks like he is because you havn't looked at statments made by people who knows him/are friends with him...

your all listening to rihanna:)

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 05:33 PM

what statements? he's not even made one and as far as i'm aware only his sister has and she said 'it's not as bad as the media make out' or something like that so even his own sister isn't denying he beat rihanna?

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 05:49 PM

neither have made statements, everyones following what friends of the couple/relatives are saying.

+ what i've heard from chris browns' friends, he doesnt sound like a woman beater at all...

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 05:51 PM

so no-ones made statements from chris's side but you said that i was only paying attention to statements by rihanna's side?

well obviously.... there aren't any others

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 05:51 PM

whether you smash a glass bottle on someone's head and report it or not it's still an act of violence, regardless..

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 06:00 PM

killing animals is still an act of violence, is that just as bad? should people be charged for that?

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 06:30 PM

so no-ones made statements from chris's side but you said that i was only paying attention to statements by rihanna's side?

well obviously.... there aren't any others
neither Chris or RiRi have made statements from their mouths.

But there has been stories released of Ri's side of the story and Chris's.

Go look up Chris Brown's, they've even been posted on this thread.

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 06:44 PM

There's been statesments made by lots in the rihanna camp e.g. her gran and kanye

Only the sister has made a statement on chris's side...

Jord

12-02-2009, 06:47 PM

I belive chris now from that story

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 06:58 PM

just read this;

February 10, 2009. A friend of Chris Brown reached out to MediaTakeOut.com, offering us this explanation of what happened on Saturday night:

[Rihanna is] outrageously jealous and insecure. So [Chris] would get into arguments and fights with her. He never hit her once but she'd [allegedly] smack him, bite him and scratch him and once he even got hit in the balls kinda' hard. So [she] got into the habit of hitting him because to her it was fine since he never hit her back.

[On Saturday night, Chris] finally told her to shut the f*ck up and it's over. So she socked the **** out of him while he was driving and kept on hitting him until he crashed into a parked car.

[Chris] then got out of the car and tried to pull her out and got hit in the face some more numerous times. Scratched up and everything.

Simply because he was done with all of the drama. Anyway when she smacked him this last time he smacked her back. So he [left Rihanna there alone].

Hurt from banging her face on the windshield/dashboard from the car accident [somebody] then called the cops and [Rihanna] told them that [Chris] whipped her ass.

[Later the next day, Chris] wanted to go get his things from her apt to go to a hotel and saw a million cop cars there.

So he left and when he sent us to retrieve his stuff, this girl didn't want to let us get his 6 bags of stuff. She said tell him to come get it himself … Tell him to answer his phone and that I'm sorry we can work this out. To which I said, hell no my friend isn't coming anywhere near here. It's too late for all of that. He just wants his luggage and you guys need never to see each other anymore….

Sh*t happens was definitely in effect and it's crazy how everyone can jump on a woman's side and not know what happened. Hind sight is 20/20 and I told [him that] he should've gotten out of the car and called the cops on her a*s when it was just him with scratches and ****.

and omg what a load of ****;

-if rihanna scratched bit and hit him then surely there'd be some evidence on his body that would have been officially reported....
-if the car had crashed that would have also been reported, the papz would be all over with pictures all over the internet.
-that says he only smacked her once, so in one smack he caused bruising, bite marks on fingers and swelling?
-that story even leaves the only good bit of chris browns story out that is actually reliably reported by the police; he turned himself in

shizzle

12-02-2009, 07:17 PM

I heard this, everyone was telling me about it.

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 07:34 PM

just read this;

and omg what a load of ****;

-if rihanna scratched bit and hit him then surely there'd be some evidence on his body that would have been officially reported....
-if the car had crashed that would have also been reported, the papz would be all over with pictures all over the internet.
-that says he only smacked her once, so in one smack he caused bruising, bite marks on fingers and swelling?
-that story even leaves the only good bit of chris browns story out that is actually reliably reported by the police; he turned himself in

is there any solid evidence of her actual injuries beyond rumours in reports? are there any actual reports on his physical health whatsoever? i don't think so. if you had police wanting to talk to you then you'd hand yourself in - whether you had done something or not just to follow procedure. the car is behind bars on police grounds and therefore paps haven't seen anything of it beyond a long distant unhelpful shot. that's what he did.. it's clear you're backing rihanna so in your eyes chris brown can do no right.

Immenseman

12-02-2009, 07:35 PM

i dont think any of you were there so stop speculating silly rumours to get yourself hyped up

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 08:03 PM

is there any solid evidence of her actual injuries beyond rumours in reports? are there any actual reports on his physical health whatsoever? i don't think so. if you had police wanting to talk to you then you'd hand yourself in - whether you had done something or not just to follow procedure. the car is behind bars on police grounds and therefore paps haven't seen anything of it beyond a long distant unhelpful shot. that's what he did.. it's clear you're backing rihanna so in your eyes chris brown can do no right.

-yes there is solid evidence of her injuries seen as she's in hospital
-i wasn't saying whether you'd hand yourself in if innocent i was pointing out that story mentioned nothing of it, which is one of the only real facts.
-that's funny how they didnt get snaps of the crashed car on its way to police grounds
-:eusa_clapit's also clear that you're backing chris and in your eyes he can do no wrong:S:S:S:S:S

Immenseman

12-02-2009, 08:22 PM

calm down lads, your ticker might pack in.

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 08:42 PM

-yes there is solid evidence of her injuries seen as she's in hospital
-i wasn't saying whether you'd hand yourself in if innocent i was pointing out that story mentioned nothing of it, which is one of the only real facts.
-that's funny how they didnt get snaps of the crashed car on its way to police grounds
-:eusa_clapit's also clear that you're backing chris and in your eyes he can do no wrong:S:S:S:S:S

you are aware that people are taken to hospital for check ups if they're found upset and distraught in abandoned vehicle right? for all we know she may have had 0 physical injuries whatsoever. and yes because news of the incident didn't occur until after the car had been towed? reports say someone called because a woman was screaming? screaming with distress that her boyfriend had just broken up with her? walked off and left her?

and actually i'm not backing chris 100%, he can do wrong in my eyes by a long shot but until we have real solid proof i won't hate on him because of who she is. i don't get the impression she's the angel everyone is making her out to be and i never have.

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 09:00 PM

for all we know she may have had 0 physical injuries whatsoever.

even the police report says the woman was injured.

Janet Snakehole

12-02-2009, 09:02 PM

why couldn't he attack me :( i'd be quite happy to be attacked by chris brown mm

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 09:06 PM

even the police report says the woman was injured.

injured. it says no details. she could have stubbed her toe on a rock for all we know. for all we know her visit to the hospital was just a general check up because she was found crying and screaming her head off. he's being charged for threat not actual battery so i doubt she faced much if any physical attack.

N-Dubz

12-02-2009, 09:09 PM

why couldn't he attack me :( i'd be quite happy to be attacked by chris brown mm

agreed

chris brown can hit me anyday. LOL :)

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 09:11 PM

injured. it says no details. she could have stubbed her toe on a rock for all we know. for all we know her visit to the hospital was just a general check up because she was found crying and screaming her head off. he's being charged for threat not actual battery so i doubt she faced much if any physical attack.

for injured to be in a police report I think slightly more would be needed than a stubbed toe.

anyway we're not getting anywhere and we won't do till facts emerge, it's all interpretations right now. May aswell stop with the arguing and going round in circles.

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 09:12 PM

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 09:15 PM

i don't. she could have had a limp.
she could have fallen and gotten bruised but they would still have to put it on the report. you're not going to get anywhere trying to persuade me that rihanna is 100% innocent so don't bother.

i'm not trying to do that, if you'd of read my posts i've said that rihanna may have started the fight and got jelous from a text :rolleyes:

i'm really not going to keep argueing if you're not even gonna read what I say.

stickwitu

12-02-2009, 09:30 PM

TopManTim

12-02-2009, 09:49 PM

i've read what you've said but you put no one strong view across, all it is is mixed and varied remarks, critquing everything and not actually coming to a clear conclusion and i can't be bothered with you.

i think rihanna's not as innocent as is being made out.
i think chris brown shouldn't be to blame if she were the one to start the physical violence.
i think that no one should start turning their back on him when they don't know the full story.
i think that had he have comatosed her for a good several years it would have been worth him losing his career for.

i'm not putting across one strong view as many facts and stories contradict others and i'm not trying to be bias to a side, i'm just trying to look at the facts.

and btw at that -rep: i'm 'trying to persuade you' as this is an arguement... i thought that was quite obvious.

GommeInc

12-02-2009, 09:56 PM

Not deadly enough :P

N-Dubz

13-02-2009, 02:17 PM

Chris Brown, changed his relationship status to 'single' and wrote: "You'll begin to see her true colours. Believe it!" on facebook earlier today.

:)

TopManTim

13-02-2009, 03:36 PM

I really wanna know his story of events tbh.

spill, spill spill!

Immenseman

13-02-2009, 03:46 PM

Chris Brown, changed his relationship status to 'single' and wrote: "You'll begin to see her true colours. Believe it!" on facebook earlier today.

:)

yeah her true colours are black and blue atm

badumbum... :eusa_clap

TopManTim

13-02-2009, 04:07 PM

yeah her true colours are black

racist -rep

oh and according to perez police are investingating prior incidents of violence and chris brown is leaving vegas to go with his mum

Jord

13-02-2009, 04:37 PM

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/usa/article2233345.ece

I lol'd so hard she had her eye patch customized with dimonds im guessing :rolleyes:

stickwitu

13-02-2009, 04:54 PM

racist -rep

you're such an utter fool
black and blue because of her apparant BRUISES.
what is he accusing her of? being a smurf? :rolleyes:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/usa/article2233345.ece

I lol'd so hard she had her eye patch customized with dimonds im guessing :rolleyes:

that's about as valid as someone wearing sunglasses. lady gaga is obviously hiding a black eye half the time as well!!

TopManTim

13-02-2009, 05:09 PM

you're such an utter fool
black and blue because of her apparant BRUISES.
what is he accusing her of? being a smurf? :rolleyes:

oml it was a joke because me and jake are friends. i didn't actually -rep

and no it's not as someone wearing sunglasses because if you read the article it says rihanna did actually have a 'scratched cornea', it might not have been caused by chris though.

Oh and also the article says another possible cause of the fight; 'An onlooker claimed Brown flew into a jealous rage — accusing Rihanna of sleeping with the hip-hop legend and producer. '

N-Dubz

13-02-2009, 05:20 PM

No Rihanna flew into a jealous rage, although no one understands why. Chris Brown's new facebook display picture does show him with a random brunette girl lying on a bed with him.

:) team chris brown.

stickwitu

13-02-2009, 05:22 PM

oml it was a joke because me and jake are friends. i didn't actually -rep

you seem small minded enough to act like that to be honest.

TopManTim

13-02-2009, 05:26 PM

you seem small minded enough to act like that to be honest.

me small minded? As you've already said I've given out no clear opinion of what's happened, i've been looking at the facts. You're the one that's blaming it 100% on rihanna.

stickwitu

13-02-2009, 05:36 PM

and actually i'm not backing chris 100%, he can do wrong in my eyes by a long shot but until we have real solid proof i won't hate on him because of who she is. i don't get the impression she's the angel everyone is making her out to be and i never have.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
i'm not blaming rihanna 100%
i'm not blaming chris brown 100%
i think the quote above proves my opinion substantially so pack it in constantly trying to get anywhere because you really won't ;)

TopManTim

13-02-2009, 06:09 PM

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
i'm not blaming rihanna 100%
i'm not blaming chris brown 100%
i think the quote above proves my opinion substantially so pack it in constantly trying to get anywhere because you really won't ;)

but the quote above does prove you're backing chris? 'he can do no wrong in my eyes'

lul?

anyway I've already posted we should stop as we aren't getting anywhere but you just carried on regardless.

N-Dubz

13-02-2009, 06:16 PM

but the quote above does prove you're backing chris? 'he can do no wrong in my eyes'

lul?

anyway I've already posted we should stop as we aren't getting anywhere but you just carried on regardless.

he can do wrong in my eyes by a long shot

wheres the no? lol.

TopManTim

13-02-2009, 06:25 PM

oh right yeah i read that wrong sorry :P

but anyway alex has still been strongly on the offensive of chris's throughout the thread and believing rumours when they are good to chris and not when they aren't so tbh I still think he's blatently on chris's.

and again:
anyway I've already posted we should stop as we aren't getting anywhere but you just carried on regardless so I don't know why you're posting to stop now.

TopManTim

15-02-2009, 08:21 PM

can't edit

chris brown has spoken!!!!!11

After more than a week of silence, alleged girlfriend beater Chris Brown just issued a statement about the incident this past weekend!
He says:
"Words cannot begin to express how sorry and saddened I am over what transpired. I am seeking the counseling of my pastor, my mother and other loved ones and I am committed, with God's help, to emerging a better person. Much of what has been speculated or reported on blogs and/or reported in the media is wrong. While I would like to be able to talk about this more, until the legal issues are resolved, this is all I can say except that I have not written any messages or made any posts to Facebook, on blogs or any place else. Those posts or writings under my name are frauds."
Leave God out of this!
He had nothing to do with your actions last weekend. That's all YOU, ****face.
What a lacking, half-hearted statement. Brown couldn't even bring himself to mention Rihanna by name!
What do U think of Chris Brown's statement????

from perez

stickwitu

15-02-2009, 10:10 PM

i like it how he accepts the blame.
she's said nothing so far. i still don't believe she's innocent.

TopManTim

16-02-2009, 05:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to1UUaV1UzY

:lol:

drama

19-02-2009, 12:37 PM

rihanna got hit by her fella, ella, ella...

Layna

19-02-2009, 12:49 PM

I Think its unfair that he wont do time for this, Yet any other normal person would. Why is he so special?

--ss--

19-02-2009, 01:23 PM

I Think its unfair that he wont do time for this, Yet any other normal person would. Why is he so special?
Because the ***** probably deserved it. You don't just lash out on somebody unless they've done something incredibly bad and started going violent first.

I personally wouldn't hit a girl but if they were to go agressive and started acting manly I would obviously retaliate, why's it so wrong for a man to hit a woman and yet a woman can hit a man without anything happening.

A bit random but i got sent this on msn and i think it sort of related to this hahaha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjAn4hmQtQs&feature=related

N-Dubz

19-02-2009, 05:03 PM

lets hope the crazy ho stays in barbados for the rest of her days and lets cb move on with his career xox

stickwitu

19-02-2009, 05:05 PM

lets hope the crazy ho stays in barbados for the rest of her days and lets cb move on with his career xox
+rep xx

N-Dubz

19-02-2009, 05:06 PM

+rep xx

TEAM CHRIS BROWN INIT ALEX x

Sammeth.

20-02-2009, 03:58 AM

http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/a1072__oPt.jpg

Looks pretty nasty to me.
http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-19-chris-brown-did-this

That picture speaks for itself!

Our heart (http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-19-chris-brown-did-this#) breaks for Rihanna (http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-19-chris-brown-did-this#). This is beyond horrible and inexcusable.

Boycott Chris Brown (http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-19-chris-brown-did-this#)!!!!!!!!!
Boycott Chris Brown!!!!!!!!!
Boycott Chris Brown!!!!!!!!!
Boycott Chris Brown!!!!!!!!!
Boycott Chris Brown!!!!!!!!!

If that monster has smart advisors, then Brown will issue another (better) statement and apology RIGHT NOW.
P.S. His record label needs to drop him!

Edit: The article has now been updated with the following;

P.S. That picture was taken very soon after Rihanna's horrific beating, so it was BEFORE the full extent of bruising and swelling could manifest.

Absently

20-02-2009, 04:41 AM

wow. she looks awful..

someone told me that they were at an awards ceremony and rihanna got jealous and got all ****** with chris brown =S

don't know if that's true, probably just a rumour, but she must of done something to push him..

Influix

20-02-2009, 04:48 AM

http://img.habboupload.com/1235105253.gif

:D

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 01:45 PM

i still dont think it looks as terriable as people said it was, all of that could easily be done when you think about it.

i still stick by the statement that she attacked him whilst driving, as her story makes no sense to me in the slightest, and shes changed it about twice in her actual statements about it.

:)

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 02:52 PM

that looks horrific

don't know if that's true, probably just a rumour, but she must of done something to push him..

if she did something does that really justify what he did to retaliate?

http://img.habboupload.com/1235105253.gif

:D

not even funny

i still dont think it looks as terriable as people said it was, all of that could easily be done when you think about it.

i still stick by the statement that she attacked him whilst driving, as her story makes no sense to me in the slightest, and shes changed it about twice in her actual statements about it.

:)

if she attacked him why does he have no bruises etc

oh and here's what she looked like a few hours earlier

http://pipemy.info/browse.php?u=Oi8vd3d3Lmdvc3NpcGdpcmxzLmNvbS9maWxlc y9pbWFnZXMvbWlsZXktcmloYW5uYS1jbGl2ZS0yNzktMTIucHJ ldmlldy5qcGc%3D&b=15

how can you say those injuries could be easily done? http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z18/topmantim/ohboy.gif How do easily deform someone's forehead like that, and what the hells he done to her chin :S

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 03:35 PM

always wondered what would happen if you stamped on a talentless pig's face :O
ps. no one cares what you say tim so shut up already x

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 03:39 PM

she was talentless to begin with and now her face is deformed, whats the use for her now???

come on chris get a single out already. :D

Captain

20-02-2009, 03:42 PM

You can tell who the morons are in this forum just from the few posts above. She can't be that talentless since she's way more successful than you AND Chris Brown so please try to keep your petty comments to yourself x

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 03:57 PM

always wondered what would happen if you stamped on a talentless pig's face :O
ps. no one cares what you say tim so shut up already x

that's right when you have no arguements to what i say just laugh it off :rolleyes:

she was talentless to begin with and now her face is deformed, whats the use for her now???

come on chris get a single out already. :D

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z18/topmantim/roll.gif i hope you're joking, his next single will be so floptastic it'll be unreal

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 04:08 PM

she's successful due to a huge budget of top producers, song writers and management that her label hired. if you compare her vocal abilities to other artists she's clearly not their on talent alone.

and you can reply saying.
OOOOOOH BUT SO MANY OTHER ARTISTS ARE THE SAME.
you sign an artist based on talent, rihanna didn't deserve to be signed.
she's improving yes, but when you compare her to other artists who are alot more talented to begin with she doesn't deserve the success. working hard isn't enough if you don't have the talent to begin with. she should go find another career path.

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 04:14 PM

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 04:22 PM

Chris Brown is an all arounder, how dare you compare him to Rihanna or say she is bigger then him. He is one of the biggest male stars in RNB.

He is a singer, song-writer, dancer, music video director and actor. His first debut song "Run It" was the first song by a male artist to reach number one. His album has been released twice and reached platnum, on its first release it got to number four on the billboard hot 100 selling 1.9 million in the united states alone. On the second release only seven months it reached number two in billboard hot 100. He doesn't sell as much as her (although he has less albums then her), but its clear he's just as popular. When you think of RNB you think of Chris Brown.

He's signed for doing a movie in fact for this year, and they still have refused to drop him even after this situation - there thinkin reasonably, this will blow over and we all know it. I don't think his next single will flop, if everyone thought like that he still wouldn't be signed to his label.

His perfomance's make up for his vocals, not that his vocals are bad when he isnt dancing around on stage making it one hell of a concert.

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 04:22 PM

chris brown is one hell of a performer though , just like acts like britney and janet who make up for live vocals by having huge stage presences. i don't see that coming from rihanna. she offers nothing. i've only seen one performance by her which had one tiny spark of energy.

and actually chris has some writing credits, and has a lot more creative input than she has ever had. have you heard paper gangsta by lady gaga? that says all you'll ever want to know about defjam.

"sometimes i felt so deaf in the jam"
"i don't do funny business, not interested in fakers"
"i'm looking for love not an empty page full of stuff that means nothing"

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 04:37 PM

Chris Brown is an all arounder, how dare you compare him to Rihanna or say she is bigger then him. He is one of the biggest male stars in RNB.

Firstly to be an all-rounder youy have to have good vocals. Secondly, I didn't compare him to rihanna, i wouldn't insult her like that

He is a singer, song-writer, dancer, music video director and actor. His first debut song "Run It" was the first song by a male artist to reach number one. His album has been released twice and reached platnum, on its first release it got to number four on the billboard hot 100 selling 1.9 million in the united states alone. On the second release only seven months it reached number two in billboard hot 100.

Lol at trying to boast about someones musical achievements when also talking about rihanna.

Rihanna is the joint-first artist in Billboard history to have two singles to go 3xplatinum. Rihanna is joint with beyonce for most #1s of the decade. Rihannas album GGGB has sold more than 7.1million worldwide and is the highest selling album released in 2007 whereas Exclusive by Chris Brown was also released in 2007 however has sold a max of 3million. GGGB's been certified 2x platinum in america and has also reasched #2 on the billboard 200 like chris.

need I go on?

He's signed for doing a movie in fact for this year, and they still have refused to drop him even after this situation - there thinkin reasonably, this will blow over and we all know it. I don't think his next single will flop, if everyone thought like that he still wouldn't be signed to his label.

let's wait and see ;)

His perfomance's make up for his vocals, not that his vocals are bad when he isnt dancing around on stage making it one hell of a concert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4aBMcTtxJo

that was one of the first performances that came up on youtube and he's just standing around with dancers making it look good yet his vocals are still ****

chris brown is one hell of a performer though , just like acts like britney and janet who make up for live vocals by having huge stage presences. i don't see that coming from rihanna. she offers nothing. i've only seen one performance by her which had one tiny spark of energy.

see above

and actually chris has some writing credits, and has a lot more creative input than she has ever had. have you heard paper gangsta by lady gaga? that says all you'll ever want to know about defjam.

"sometimes i felt so deaf in the jam"
"i don't do funny business, not interested in fakers"
"i'm looking for love not an empty page full of stuff that means nothing"

...k, what's your point gurl. you're saying defjam is bad? k this topics on chris brown attacking rihanna :S

longer

oh and you saying rihanna is **** but the label makes her success, that just proves that the label is good?

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 04:42 PM

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 04:46 PM

i was replying to captain, not you.
and yeah, it proves the label is good, it also proves they give a majority of their artists little creative control. rihanna's nothing more than another manufactured pop star except she's worse because she can't actually do much.

if you market **** the right way it'll sell.

rihanna's vocals are crap but seriously chris browns are no better

AGAIN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4aBMcTtxJo

his vocals are ****! i'll give it to you he can dance though

oh and don't say that he's tired from dancing etc because before he's dancing his vocals are no better

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 04:47 PM

If you looked back honey you would see I corrected myself, yes Rihanna has good sales but so does Chris Brown - and to be honest he is one of the biggest male stars in RNB if you like it or not.

And insult her? Excuse me. Chris Browm is a dancer, a PERFORMER, everything he does is amazing because he is an all around entertainer. What does Rihanna do?

Well I was replying to Captian but since your now involved.

No vocals? He's actually amazing live and if I have to give you examples I will, hes an all arounder once again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T7FTTNHsio&feature=related - CHRIS BROWN - WALL TO WALL (he actually looks alive...Unlike some of Rihannas perfomances - can I say VMA'S 2008?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj5CRj4k_Ys - CHRIS BROWN - RUN IT - FIRST SONG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxhaRZNivYY - CHRIS BROWN CONCERT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRGabBaCz-A - TAKE YOU DOWN PERFORMANCE.

Personally I think he does pretty well, his concerts are always alive and happy. He puts on a good show and does more of a job then Rihanna in more eyes.

Didn't you say like two pages ago you wanted to stop arguing, can you ever make your mind up?

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 04:50 PM

rihanna's vocals are crap but seriously chris browns are no better

AGAIN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4aBMcTtxJo

his vocals are ****! i'll give it to you he can dance though

oh and don't say that he's tired from dancing etc because before he's dancing his vocals are no better

yeah and he makes up for vocals by being a performer, just like britney, janet etc. all do. she doesn't.. she's just an all round useless artist. true she has good songs but they're not ogod because they're by her.

Joord

20-02-2009, 04:56 PM

to be honest, both rihanna and chris brown are both good artists, both making decent music.

you cant really say chris brown is **** because looks where he is today.
and you cant say rihanna is either. even if she does have good producers etc, she still works hard. and she might not have the best vocal ability, but people might like her tone of voice, or something else when she sings. same with chris brown, even though imo hes a really good vocalist, if you dont think so, others might disagree..

and who cares about that kind of stuff anyways aint this about like chris brown supposedly beating rihanna?

even though none of you have the facts, because either/both could be in the wrong cus i doubt chris brown would just launch at rihanna, considering they were going out, and loved eachother. and the fact shes a huge superstar, so knew people would end up finding out, so it must've been something big to tic him off...

woo team chrihanna

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 05:01 PM

If you looked back honey you would see I corrected myself, yes Rihanna has good sales but so does Chris Brown - and to be honest he is one of the biggest male stars in RNB if you like it or not.

chris browns sales aren't half of rihannas

one of the biggest in male rnb? yeah taht isn't hard theirs like 3 others

rihanna is on top of her game which she has REAL competition for, britney beyonce christina gaga etc etc

And insult her? Excuse me. Chris Browm is a dancer, a PERFORMER, everything he does is amazing because he is an all around entertainer. What does Rihanna do?

wins grammys, worldwide #1s, HAS SUCCES

Well I was replying to Captian but since your now involved.

No vocals? He's actually amazing live and if I have to give you examples I will, hes an all arounder once again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T7FTTNHsio&feature=related - CHRIS BROWN - WALL TO WALL (he actually looks alive.)

can't even hear him sing in that over the crackle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj5CRj4k_Ys - CHRIS BROWN - RUN IT - FIRST SONG

firstly that's 3years ago so, what about some recent ones? and secondly he's out of tune throughout :S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxhaRZNivYY - CHRIS BROWN CONCERT

he's not even singing in that nor even miming so why link that as good vocals?

Personally I think he does pretty well, his concerts are always alive and happy. He puts on a good show and does more of a job then Rihanna in more eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr_SDyH5SZU

Didn't you say like two pages ago you wanted to stop arguing, can you ever make your mind up?

maybe if you hadn't been trolling and insulting rihanna etc etc i wouldn't be argueing now

longer

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 05:07 PM

longer

I was joking, or cant you manage to take a joke anymore? I dislike Rihanna and I've made it clear through out the whole thread, that didn't stop you from asking for us to stop arguing with you. Im entitled to an opinion, I'm sorry I'm not a clone like you wish I was.

He's not out of tune, I think he knows how to sing his own song. I was pointing out that his concerts are always alive and happy, unlike Rihanna who looked dead through one of her perfomances at the VMA'S for Disturbia and majority of the others.

How can you say theres like three singers he's against? He's up against q. alot of people when you think about it lol. Rihanna comes no where near close to Beyonce's vocals so don't even go there for the love of god.

My opinion will ALWAYS be mine, I'm not sitting here trying to convince you like you are here. I don't like Rihanna, I like Chris Brown and always will.

Now will you kindly shut up and continue to bash Chris Brown like everyone else?

p.s stop being a manufactured clone of the general public just like she's one of the music industry

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 05:14 PM

I was joking, or cant you manage to take a joke anymore? I dislike Rihanna and I've made it clear through out the whole thread, that didn't stop you from asking for us to stop arguing with you. Im entitled to an opinion, I'm sorry I'm not a clone like you wish I was.

good you should be sorry

He's not out of tune, I think he knows how to sing his own song. I was pointing out that his concerts are always alive and happy, unlike Rihanna who looked dead through one of her perfomances at the VMA'S for Disturbia and majority of the others.

he knows how to sing his song but his vocals just can't manage it :(

How can you say theres like three singers he's against? He's up against q. alot of people when you think about it lol. Rihanna comes no where near close to Beyonce's vocals so don't even go there for the love of god.

i wasn't comparing their vocals, i was saying their competition for female pop like you say chris brown has competition for male rnb, who is his competition btw?

My opinion will ALWAYS be mine, I'm not sitting here trying to convince you like you are here. I don't like Rihanna, I like Chris Brown and always will.

thought that was quite obvious tbh

Now will you kindly shut up and continue to bash Chris Brown like everyone else?

k i'll continue to back Chris Brown like everyone else :)

p.s stop being a manufactured clone of the general public just like she's one of the music industry

so because i don't share your opinion i'm a manufactured clone

...k then

longer

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 05:16 PM

you're like a 12 year old girl on her period.

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 05:17 PM

and you're like a troll on it's birthday

nyc arguements to defend chris brown in that post btw!

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 05:18 PM

longer

yeah i am sorry really sorry in fact, im on my knees irl begging for your forgiveness... i wish i could think like you just for one day :S

maybe his vocals cant manage it... yet there just getting further then rihannas vocals :(

go look up rnb male singers ... or are you to busy looking at rihanns bruised face and devils horns ...

yeah nearly as obvious as you loving the behind off rihanna

everyone else?? i think u shud check some utube videos and some other opinions..... your just one of them ignorant people that only listen to one side of the story

yes your a clone.

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 05:23 PM

and you're like a troll on it's birthday

nyc arguements to defend chris brown in that post btw!

wanna brush my hair then babe? i'm such a troll obv. you're really quite bitter.

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 05:25 PM

yeah i am sorry really sorry in fact, im on my knees irl begging for your forgiveness... i wish i could think like you just for one day :S

everyone does

maybe his vocals cant manage it... yet there just getting further then rihannas vocals :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr_SDyH5SZU

a hell of a lot more in tune than the chris brown performances you sent

go look up rnb male singers ... or are you to busy looking at rihanns bruised face and devils horns ...

i googled male rnb singers and one of the first results was an article on 'where have all the male rnb singers gone' http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z18/topmantim/roll.gif

yeah nearly as obvious as you loving the behind off rihanna

how can you say that when you love the behind of chris brown?

everyone else?? i think u shud check some utube videos and some other opinions..... your just one of them ignorant people that only listen to one side of the story

lol i said that because that's what you'd said in the bit i replied to

yes your a clone.

so you're a clone of someone who likes chris brown?

longer

p.s. alex;

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z18/topmantim/hit.gif

Joord

20-02-2009, 05:26 PM

one word for all of uuuuuu

**STUBBORN**

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 05:34 PM

longer

p.s. alex;

did kanye west lend you his ego for the day?

chris brown is average at vocals but hes an amazing perfomer - something rihanna lacks greatly. she had no vocals when she begun hardly but i admit over the past year she's gotten alot better.

why are we speaking about competition again? id say his comp was urban and rnb male singers really, if you want to look them up go ahead. i cant believe you actually googled, dont you have anything better to do... seriously?

yeah i love chris brown indeed and you love rihanna, im glad we're coming to a conclusion here and finally realising this will never end if one of us doesnt give up.

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 05:41 PM

did kanye west lend you his ego for the day?

no i begged him but he just couldn't live without it

chris brown is average at vocals but hes an amazing perfomer - something rihanna lacks greatly. she had no vocals when she begun hardly

true, i'm not gonna lie she's a better performer, i agree with what you said

but i admit over the past year she's gotten alot better.

:)

why are we speaking about competition again?

because you brought it up saying he's the best male rnb

id say his comp was urban and rnb male singers really, if you want to look them up go ahead.

i already did and told you the outcome

i cant believe you actually googled, dont you have anything better to do... seriously?

i actually genuinly wanted to know what male rnb singers are out there.

p.s. i love how you've still not named any

yeah i love chris brown indeed and you love rihanna, im glad we're coming to a conclusion here and finally realising this will never end if one of us doesnt give up.

:)

longerrrrrrrrrr

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 05:45 PM

longerrrrrrrrrr

oh couldnt he? im sorry about that...

im glad we've come to an agreement that he's a better performer, no point lying now is there?

he is the best male in rnb, you've already said it yourself.

i told you to look it up for a reason, id say it were more kanye west, t.i and etc that were near him in the business.

should we finish this now or do you want to continue talking about pointless things?

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 05:54 PM

oh couldnt he? im sorry about that...

im glad we've come to an agreement that he's a better performer,

same

no point lying now is there?

don't you go startin another arguement

he is the best male in rnb, you've already said it yourself.

when did i say that?????

i told you to look it up for a reason, id say it were more kanye west, t.i and etc that were near him in the business.

kanye = hip hop

t.i. = rap

should we finish this now or do you want to continue talking about pointless things?

the arguements fizzled out now anyway, even alex has stopped postin so maybe we should get back on topic and just post facts etc about the attack

longurrrrrrrrrr

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 05:58 PM

longurrrrrrrrrr

im not starting another argument! dont you go blaming me now!

well i think you did, you said he is because he hasnt got much competition

yeah but they both do different things, and oh and i forgot to put ne-yo.

alex went to dinner and abandoned me ;) okay ill stop now, theres no point we've both made what we think pretty clear.

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 06:24 PM

sorry but if you like r&b then chances are that you'll be fully open to purchasing music by hip-hop artists as many of them are featured on r&b artists' songs and vice versa - that's why people use the phrase "urban" to describe a mix of the two with several other genres included as well.

chris brown's competition is other male r&b acts like usher, ne-yo etc. but also hip-hop artists as well. male artists have more dominance over hip-hop whereas females have more dominance over r&b and soul. he has just as much competition within the industry as she does, except he's taken a direction similar to rihanna recently in an attempt to crossover into pop as well..

oh, and animated images - really mature there. really mature.

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 06:33 PM

the arguement had finished but no you have to bring it up again :$

sorry but if you like r&b then chances are that you'll be fully open to purchasing music by hip-hop artists as many of them are featured on r&b artists' songs and vice versa - that's why people use the phrase "urban" to describe a mix of the two with several other genres included as well.

chris brown's competition is other male r&b acts like usher, ne-yo etc. but also hip-hop artists as well. male artists have more dominance over hip-hop whereas females have more dominance over r&b and soul. he has just as much competition within the industry as she does, except he's taken a direction similar to rihanna recently in an attempt to crossover into pop as well..

oh, and animated images - really mature there. really mature.

It was specifically said he was the biggest male rnb star, not just male satr in general. We aren't talking about the other genres just rnb. Thanks for remindng me about usher, you see he's had 8 billboard #1's and album sales of over 38million, oh yeah of course chris brown is a bigger male rnb star than him.

the female dominace in rnb is exactly why i said what competition for best male rnb.

oh and the image - aren't you and n-dubz the ones that said i couldn;t take a joke? hypoctrite.

p.s. i'm not posting anymore, got better things to do and me and n-dubz already agreed to an end of this arguement.

keep fighting to yourself all you want though

drama

20-02-2009, 06:37 PM

rihanna got hit by her fella, ella, ella...
well i thought it was funny :(

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 06:39 PM

at the moment he is.
it doesn't matter how many albums you've sold in your back catalogue, that doesn't make you a big artist at this current date and time. if it did then acts like nelly, toni braxton, janet etc. would still be seen as the "it" people when they're really not.

and actually, the argument will never finish because your arrogant outstreaks your ability to conclude a debate. if you weren't so convinced that you're right 24/7 then we wouldn't have a problem, oh and i don't see it as a joke personally. you go on about how violence to people is wrong and then post something like that. who's the hypocrite? you can't joke with me because you're not my friend, you're rude and pathetic.

Ladygaga

20-02-2009, 06:39 PM

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/photos/Image/RIHANNAPHOTO430.jpg

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 06:46 PM

turns out i couldnt resist seen as you're post is so wrong

at the moment he is.
it doesn't matter how many albums you've sold in your back catalogue, that doesn't make you a big artist at this current date and time. if it did then acts like nelly, toni braxton, janet etc. would still be seen as the "it" people when they're really not.

so you say kanye is competition and also we're talking very current. Well then that means taht kanye is the biggest atm seen as kanyes hits have been after chris's. kanye was #2 in hot 100 just last week!

and actually, the argument will never finish because your arrogant outstreaks your ability to conclude a debate. if you weren't so convinced that you're right 24/7 then we wouldn't have a problem, oh and i don't see it as a joke personally. you go on about how violence to people is wrong and then post something like that.

that gif is used throughout the internet as a joke and incase you didnt notice it was set up, it's not real :$

who's the hypocrite?

u r - please see below

you can't joke with me because you're not my friend, you're rude and pathetic.

cos callin me a 12 year old girl on her period isn't rude

longer

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 07:00 PM

it was supposed to be rude, yours wasn't apparantly. i'm quite glad making it clear that you're an annoying little rodent.

and it isn't so wrong at all.
chris is clearly the "it" boy of r&b, and yeah you can say kanye is the "it" boy of hip-hop or t.i. is based on sales but that doesn't neccesarily mean jack. look at britney, she sold poorly during the blackout era but was still everywhere, still considered to be the queen of pop. you ask anyone for a pop artist and chances are they'd have said her even when she wasn't on top of her game. all this media coverage just proves the point more that chris brown is the leader of the pack right now even though he's not releasing anything new.

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 07:07 PM

you were saying kanye was his competition before so why are you seperating them now?

sales don't mean jack, so why did sales mean something when i talked about usher? for him your escuse was that that was ages ago.

how can you say he's the "it" boy of rnb, "it" implies he has popularity and people want to be him, so why is radio boycotting his music and N-dubz has already said that I'm a clone of the public so that would mean the majority hates him right now just like me.

you said media coverage = leader of pack so that makes osama binladen the leader of a pack, from that i hope you can see it's not always a good thing.

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 07:15 PM

drama

20-02-2009, 07:17 PM

Pop singer Rihanna has cancelled her 21st birthday party.

Apparently, she had her bash last Saturday night.

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 07:18 PM

Pop singer Rihanna has cancelled her 21st birthday party.

Apparently, she had her bash last Saturday night.
ur the best person alive. seriously.

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 07:21 PM

um... chris brown isn't bin laden. he got a lot of coverage before punching your talentless bint. and sorry, but in my opinion bad coverage is better than no coverage when you're trying to have a career in the music industry (see vanessa hudgens, no one really gave a crap about her before that scandal)

chris brown isnt bin laden i just used your principles

they can boycott stuff all they want, but they don't realise that'll just bring more attention to him (it's just like britney's if u seek amy, right?)

no - IYSA is being played

usher doesn't have sales, media coverage or anything right now.

i like how you've brought in media coverage now that i beat your last point. You change what it means to be "it" every time you post

and i'm separating them because they're not close competition, just like how beyonce, lady gaga etc. aren't close competition to rihanna. beyonce is more r&b, lady gaga is more electro pop. under the genre of urban they are all competing with eachother.

if they're not competition then why did you say they were a while ago

oh and bin laden IS the leader of al quaeda isn't he? he's reppin up the terrorism industry hella good.

i said that if you'd of read my post, however it's obv not good coverage as he's not an "it" boy.

next time do you actually want to reply to what i say like chris brown not being an "it" boy as the majority don't want to be him

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 07:23 PM

its like WW3 on this thread

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 07:26 PM

its like WW3 on this thread

when it was just me n you we peacefully came to an agreement :)

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 07:28 PM

if you actually read back through this thread we've gone from talking about the same **** x2 to talking about sales, competitions and how the artist is seen.

LOL but hey.

its kind of boring now, everyone knows chris brown is amazing. :D

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 07:29 PM

you "beat" my last point? is this some point joining game now? ******* hell i must have 500000 points. maybe we should ask habbox if we can cash them for prizes?

and i said they're still competition, just not close competition.
oh and so sorry for broadening my definition tim, how about you give a definitive version seeing as you seem to think you know everything? gonna re-write the bible next? i'd love to buy that. you'd be turning crap into x10 crap.

ps. so sorry my up to dateness on britney isn't 100%
unlike some people i dont live for breatheheavy.com or britneys *******.

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 07:41 PM

you "beat" my last point? is this some point joining game now? ******* hell i must have 500000 points. maybe we should ask habbox if we can cash them for prizes?

gd idea brb pm'n nvrspk

and i said they're still competition, just not close competition.
oh and so sorry for broadening my definition tim, how about you give a definitive version seeing as you seem to think you know everything? gonna re-write the bible next? i'd love to buy that. you'd be turning crap into x10 crap.

don't bring god into this like chris brown brought god into his attack :(

ps. so sorry my up to dateness on britney isn't 100%
unlike some people i dont live for breatheheavy.com or britneys *******.

did i even mention britney in my post? edit: oh yeah i did, so you should be sorry - don't use facts or comparisons if they aren't right

lengthen

stickwitu

20-02-2009, 07:45 PM

i'll do what i want with god's name thanks very much.
and actually last time i checked z100 had a poll up on whether it should be banned or not, so sorry :rolleyes:
****.

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 07:51 PM

the results of that was like 98% yes 2% no

p.s. lol at calling the bible crap then saying you'll do things in gods name

you're so hypocritical it's hilarious

Captain

20-02-2009, 07:52 PM

Let's just settle it by saying that Chris Browns career has pretty much gone down the pan because of the Rihanna incident? ;\

TopManTim

20-02-2009, 07:54 PM

that's a ok by me

N-Dubz

20-02-2009, 11:30 PM

or we could settle it by saying rihannas a stupid ho, that makes more sense to me.

xxxx

Captain

21-02-2009, 03:45 AM

Or we could just settle it by admitting that your bitter that Chris Brown messed up big time.

stickwitu

21-02-2009, 02:12 PM

or we could just say SHE HAD IT COMING.

N-Dubz

21-02-2009, 06:50 PM

or we could just settle it by saying rihannas more useless then she was before, and like alex said ... ***** HAD IT COMIN!!!

Ali

22-02-2009, 10:35 AM

hmmm im not sure, he seems so innocent.
he did look abit shifty with that tash though :O

Hopeless

23-02-2009, 05:14 PM

self defence on chris browns behalf? what?!?!

For rihanna to have those injuries she must of had a weapon herself, and its clear that chris brown has NO injuries. Friends of rihanna have stated that she has been beaten by Chris brown numerous times before but this is the most vicious.

Rihanna's face is proper messed up, and if you see a picture of it, you cant say chris brown acted in self defence, due to her injuries Rihanna must of been repeated hit in the face.

"Injuries are:
Bruising arround eyes
Torn Tissue arround lips
Brusing arround neck suggesting strangulation
Disfigured nose (may have been broken)"

Chris Brown doesn't have a leg to stand on, at most she would of slapped him, any decent man would of walked away, but to hit her repeated in the face is just plain wrong. If the world is just he deserves to be locked in up in prision and get him get his just rewards.