A way for all Donators to have VIP features

[Mint]

Hey,

With Habbox not being able to sell VIP/extra features anymore we need to think a way around it rather than just giving up, and I have the perfect solution. We could introduce achievements. One of them could be "Achieve a coloured username" and by donating you get a coloured username. Obviously donating and achievements are 2 completely seperate things. Now, achieving certain things can give you rewards such as reputation points and many VIP features. Achieving a coloured username will reward you with a whole bundle of features and reputation points, basically what you would get if you bought VIP. And for extra fun on the forum you could add many different achievements like "reach 5000 posts", "be +repped 50 times", "have 5 refferals" etc.

Discuss! :)

[Titch]

haha this is actually a very good idear, and habbo cant moan becuase they have achievements. + REP if i can.

[Lee]

This wouldn't work as your basicly "Paying" for achievments witch would be why we have this problem in the first place right?

+Rep for a nice, helpful idea though :)

[Mint]

This wouldn't work as your basicly "Paying" for achievments witch would be why we have this problem in the first place right?

+Rep for a nice, helpful idea though :)
2 seperate things, you can get a coloured username via free methods anyway such as winning VIP.

[ReviewDude]

This wouldn't work as your basicly "Paying" for achievments witch would be why we have this problem in the first place right?

+Rep for a nice, helpful idea though :)

You don't have to pay to 'achieve' a coloured username - you can win MoTM, for example. I actually quite like this idea, though how plausible this would be to implement, I don't know...

[e5]

Could do this anyway. Habbo's only problem was that Habbox was receiving money while we got premium services.. Theres nothing wrong with acheiving anything aslong as we're not giving Habbox money, because sulake don't allow it.

Small donations such as what is available now for a coloured username as a thanks and recognition, is as far as they can go in the giving us extra's department.

[Mint]

You don't have to pay to 'achieve' a coloured username - you can win MoTM, for example. I actually quite like this idea, though how plausible this would be to implement, I don't know...
Yep exactly, the achievements could be added to the FAQ's or even have it's own page. It might have to be done manually though rather than the rewards being given out automatically.

[lPinoy]

haha this is actually a very good idear, and habbo cant moan becuase they have achievements. + REP if i can.

yeah but its the same with vip.

they have hc membership but they still remove our vip.

[AgnesIO]

haha this is actually a very good idear, and habbo cant moan becuase they have achievements. + REP if i can.

They can moan if they really wanted!

Afterall they sell habbo club but would let us sell an equivelent :D

However I think this is an AWESOME idea.

Get management to view this thread.

Also the referall thibng is a good idea as it would get more people to habbox - E.G. More people to buy 'Donator' :D

+Rep

[Jordy]

Not bad idea as they go, it's too confusing and long-winded for my liking but I just realised that the VIP Features are being spread through the ranks anyway. So it's within my own interests to wait for that, that way I can get the features with out paying for them ;)

[GommeInc]

I just think give it to them. If Habbo can allow different colours then they should allow everything, stupid beggars :/ Why can't an area in Finland where Sulake is situated just sink? Or at least give me important Sulake staff details to me so I can deal with this mess :D

[Mayyte]

Very good idea if you ask me. Habbo can't exactly moan as they have achievements and such so we're basically following a Habbo scheme essentially - if that makes sense that is. Hmm, I love it to be honest and I DEFINITELY think this is well worth trying out. Just have to get it past management first. +Rep to you, sir! ;)

I'll try and direct management in this direction :)

[GommeInc]

I'm confused where this achievement scheme comes in? Can people who don't donate get coloured names and such without donating? Because then it's an achievement scheme. If donating unlocks an achievement scheme and only donators can get these achievements, then it's not going to work, because you're essentially paying for the achievement scheme, a premium service. It's like the Arcade really :/

[ReviewDude]

I'm confused where this achievement scheme comes in? Can people who don't donate get coloured names and such without donating? Because then it's an achievement scheme. If donating unlocks an achievement scheme and only donators can get these achievements, then it's not going to work, because you're essentially paying for the achievement scheme, a premium service. It's like the Arcade really :/

I think it'll be a Habbox-wide achievements scheme - with one of the achievements being 'Gained a Coloured Username', obviously easier to do via donation than by winning it. That achievement could then unlock various VIP-esque features ;)

[Mayyte]

I've sent a PM to Habbox Management. I.e. Mr.OSH; brandon; nvrspk4; Bomb-head; Sammeth. ect. directing them this way and also - in brief - explaining the idea in rough. I've put it from "the members of the Habbox Forum" :)

[GommeInc]

I think it'll be a Habbox-wide achievements scheme - with one of the achievements being 'Gained a Coloured Username', obviously easier to do via donation than by winning it. That achievement could then unlock various VIP-esque features ;)
Which is my point, if donating only opens this achievement area, or a string of achievements (the first being Coloured Name then maybe Arcade > User Title), then it's not an achievement, rather you just bought them, which then turns them in Premium Services :P It won't work like that!

Or you could just do one thing which would be, list no where the features of being a donator and just assume Habbo are as dumb as their policies and expect they won't find out that "Donators" can have access to loads of features :P

[Yonder]

Ooh nice idea well done. Some areas such as post achievements could be spammed though so you would have to be careful, but overall brilliant idea.

[Con]

or ya'no you could post constructively + positively all the time then be awarded with VIP as member of the month. :)

Nice idea anyhow!

[Mayyte]

or ya'no you could post constructively + positively all the time then be awarded with VIP as member of the month. :)

Nice idea anyhow!

You could do that but only 5-8 people receive it if I remember rightly. With the large demand for VIP on this forum, that isn't always a fantastic idea - if that makes sense :S

[Mint]

Which is my point, if donating only opens this achievement area, or a string of achievements (the first being Coloured Name then maybe Arcade > User Title), then it's not an achievement, rather you just bought them, which then turns them in Premium Services :P It won't work like that!

Or you could just do one thing which would be, list no where the features of being a donator and just assume Habbo are as dumb as their policies and expect they won't find out that "Donators" can have access to loads of features :P
I see what you are saying but we can just abouts pull this off because of the following reasons. You are not actually buying the features, you are winning them. When you donate you are basically donating but recieving a coloured name, your not recieving any features. Now the achievements are a totally different thing, and it just so happens to be that there is an achievement called "Gain a coloured name". And it's not as if you can only gain a coloured name by donating anyway, you can earn it by winning member of the month. ;)

[GommeInc]

I see what you are saying but we can just abouts pull this off because of the following reasons. You are not actually buying the features, you are winning them. When you donate you are basically donating but recieving a coloured name, your not recieving any features. Now the achievements are a totally different thing, and it just so happens to be that there is an achievement called "Gain a coloured name". And it's not as if you can only gain a coloured name by donating anyway, you can earn it by winning member of the month. ;)
I think I understand, but what's the point of the achievements feature when the only thing donators get will be the coloured names? It just sounds like what Habbox is doing now, but a bit more complicated and a full on feature that provides all members with achievements when these achievements could be added using the ranking system.

[Mint]

I think I understand, but what's the point of the achievements feature when the only thing donators get will be the coloured names? It just sounds like what Habbox is doing now, but a bit more complicated and a full on feature that provides all members with achievements when these achievements could be added using the ranking system.
I don't really understand what you are saying there but if you are trying to say that achievements will be complicated then I dissagree. Imagine a page with a list of achievements and rewards. Users would be able to check that page for anything that they have already achieved or even set targets to reach a specific achievement. Just like the request your VIP features thread, there could be a request your rewards thread. So you would post in there saying what achievements you need rewards for. Also, there could be an achievements editor just like there was a VIP editor. It's as simple as that.

[GommeInc]

I don't really understand what you are saying there but if you are trying to say that achievements will be complicated then I dissagree. Imagine a page with a list of achievements and rewards. Users would be able to check that page for anything that they have already achieved or even set targets to reach a specific achievement. Just like the request your VIP features thread, there could be a request your rewards thread. So you would post in there saying what achievements you need rewards for. Also, there could be an achievements editor just like there was a VIP editor. It's as simple as that.
Basically, that these achievements just appear to be the member ranking system. Achievements based on the age of the account and the amount of posts are exactly how the ranking system works and there appears to be no other way to get these achievements you speak of, other than being a donator, but that only gets you a coloured name, which you get anyway from donating.

So for example:

5,000 posts is a goal, you reach that goal so therefore you have an achievement. The next goal could be holding the account for 2 years. You reach that goal and have an achievement. Your account is upgraded to Platinum (for example) and you have passage to a casino and such.

I don't get how this is just a way for donators to get VIP features, when anyone can get them :S

[ReviewDude]

I don't get how this is just a way for donators to get VIP features, when anyone can get them :S

The idea, as I see it, is this:

"If you 'achieve' a coloured username - you unlock the reward of the VIP features."

Because there are other ways to achieve a coloured username than donating (winning competitions, becoming Management, etc.) - you're not paying for VIP Features, just being rewarded for completing an achievement.

[Sexy]

its a really good idea, but you should try and make them more challenging to achieve rather than giving them a certain number of posts to reach because it'll promote spamming.

[Bomb-Head]

The thing is though, if you forget about achievements for a second and strip it bare, the process would be a user pays money, and in return gets an extra feature which is what they forbid. The people at Sulake aren't a machine with a strict set of rules which we can find a loop hole in - they are humans and can easily pick out any 'rule bending' we try to do.

I know you mean users have to work for the extra features, but if I read your post right then it's only donators who are eligible which would mean they have exclusive access (because they can aim for things normal users can't). If that's not what you meant, feel free to hate on me and ignore my post! :P

[Mint]

The thing is though, if you forget about achievements for a second and strip it bare, the process would be a user pays money, and in return gets an extra feature which is what they forbid. The people at Sulake aren't a machine with a strict set of rules which we can find a loop hole in - they are humans and can easily pick out any 'rule bending' we try to do.

I know you mean users have to work for the extra features, but if I read your post right then it's only donators who are eligible which would mean they have exclusive access (because they can aim for things normal users can't). If that's not what you meant, feel free to hate on me and ignore my post! :P
It's not exclusive because anyone on the forum can get the "gain a coloured username" achievement by winning member of the month. :)

[Nixt]

It's not exclusive because anyone on the forum can get the "gain a coloured username" achievement by winning member of the month. :)

However users who donate have an unfair advantage by being able to pay for their coloured username, which then gives them access to the achievements. Which is, essentially, paying for access to premium features. It's a nice idea though.

[e5]

Could do this anyway. Habbo's only problem was that Habbox was receiving money while we got premium services.. Theres nothing wrong with acheiving anything aslong as we're not giving Habbox money, because sulake don't allow it.

Small donations such as what is available now for a coloured username as a thanks and recognition, is as far as they can go in the giving us extra's department.
Hi

Was I not right in saying this?

Because Habbo's only problem was that Sites made money out of giving us features but we can get the features for free anyway? :S:S:S

[PoshBecks78]

Sounds like a great idea.

[TopManTim]

2 things

why is habbox official anyway? you're the most popular fansite even without being official and basically all you get for being official is them imposing rules on you:S

also, I thought aslong as you removed links to hxf from habbox the rules didn't count as habboxforum is a seperate url?

[Yonder]

2 things

why is habbox official anyway? you're the most popular fansite even without being official and basically all you get for being official is them imposing rules on you:S

also, I thought aslong as you removed links to hxf from habbox the rules didn't count as habboxforum is a seperate url?

All rules apply to official and unofficial fansites, sulake trying to keep a hold and a little power over its fansites. Pathetic really. Im just annoyed at management of all fansites curling over and letting this happen but what do you expect when the fansites are run by teens who seem to be scared to stand up and say anything.

[leah]

Hey,

With Habbox not being able to sell VIP/extra features anymore we need to think a way around it rather than just giving up, and I have the perfect solution. We could introduce achievements. One of them could be "Achieve a coloured username" and by donating you get a coloured username. Obviously donating and achievements are 2 completely seperate things. Now, achieving certain things can give you rewards such as reputation points and many VIP features. Achieving a coloured username will reward you with a whole bundle of features and reputation points, basically what you would get if you bought VIP. And for extra fun on the forum you could add many different achievements like "reach 5000 posts", "be +repped 50 times", "have 5 refferals" etc.

Discuss! :)
I actually really like this idea, but people might stop donating and just want to "achieve" which defeats the purpose of the donating scheme.

[TopManTim]

All rules apply to official and unofficial fansites, sulake trying to keep a hold and a little power over its fansites.

but this forum is just a forum where you can discuss many things and one of them happens to be habbo (a)

[Mint]

I actually really like this idea, but people might stop donating and just want to "achieve" which defeats the purpose of the donating scheme.
Well, the only way to get a coloured username is to donate or win motm so I don't think the amount of donations would be affected by that, and the other achievements would only have small rewards, like free reputation points etc. :)

[TopManTim]

seeing who's repped you must be a pretty big achievment?

[Bomb-Head]

All rules apply to official and unofficial fansites, sulake trying to keep a hold and a little power over its fansites. Pathetic really. Im just annoyed at management of all fansites curling over and letting this happen but what do you expect when the fansites are run by teens who seem to be scared to stand up and say anything.
We aren't 'curling over' but we simply won't just ignore them or do anything that could result in interrupting services :P

[TopManTim]

We aren't 'curling over' but we simply won't just ignore them or do anything that could result in interrupting services :P


so basically curling over :p


fight teh powa

[Jord]

This is very very smart, You can have one like get the habbox help desk on pop and get 5 People to check out the site

[AlexOC]

Good idea!

Habbo will moan though like always.

[Mint]

Good idea!

Habbo will moan though like always.
For sure, but technically we are not doing anything wrong by doing this.

[GommeInc]

but this forum is just a forum where you can discuss many things and one of them happens to be habbo (a)
Habbox forum ;) And it's kinda obvious it's a Habbo fansite forum, looking at all the images used to make up the skin and so on, plus all the features like Habbo UK name which appears in all forum posts (if you have it filled in).

I still think Habbo will complain about this, but it doesn't sound like donators are getting VIP features, anyone can have them using this scheme and if not, then it is buying a premium service. Either everyone has them (restricted to member ranks), or no-one has them. It just sounds like a complicated Forum Member Ranking system to me, it'll just be easier to add the features to the Member Ranking system, so like Platinum Members get to see who repped them for example and it'll mean that hiring a Achievement Manager would not be needed, because we all know what happens when a Manager with a big role like this comes along, they get criticised and rarely find the time to implement changes.

[Yonder]

but this forum is just a forum where you can discuss many things and one of them happens to be habbo (a)

Yes but it is targetted at Habbo, im pretty sure in one of these VIP discussions, Habbo suggested they would have to remove any link with any fansite and all images related to Habbo (skins basically).

The forum is a sister site of habbox.com and is aimed at Habbo users, however not all of us play habbo.



We aren't 'curling over' but we simply won't just ignore them or do anything that could result in interrupting services :P


so basically curling over :p


fight teh powa

Agreed.

[Blinger1]

I like this idea, although i doubt it will happen..

(has a mod replied yet? i cbf to read through 5 pages)

[leah]

I don't see how habbo would complain about the achievement system when no one would be paying for "premium services"

[Mayyte]

I got a reply from nvr himself. If you want me to forward it to you, just ask me via PM :)

[today]

I got a reply from nvr himself. If you want me to forward it to you, just ask me via PM :)
Dont feel to special ma'dear.

[Mayyte]

I'm not, I'm just saying. As I said earlier in this thread, I'd contacted most general managment.

[Kardan]

As a last resort there's still the option of making Habbox Forum a general teen forum rather than Habbo related.

[today]

As a last resort there's still the option of making Habbox Forum a general teen forum rather than Habbo related.
Habbo is where most new users come from though.

[Kardan]

Habbo is where most new users come from though.

Indeed, and it also means that departments such as the help desk and competitions and that would have to be scrapped - that or we start doing events for all the other online games that has a forum on here. As I said; it's only a last resort. I'd rather the forum try and save itself by VIP by being a teen forum rather then just getting hardly any money at all by staying as a Habbo forum.

Of course only Sierk will truly know what Habbox's future is :)

[AlexOC]

Indeed, and it also means that departments such as the help desk and competitions and that would have to be scrapped - that or we start doing events for all the other online games that has a forum on here. As I said; it's only a last resort. I'd rather the forum try and save itself by VIP by being a teen forum rather then just getting hardly any money at all by staying as a Habbo forum.

Of course only Sierk will truly know what Habbox's future is :)

We're doomed! :P

[TopManTim]

it's nice to know that habbo cares about small businesses in times of economic crisis :(


call the bbc!


potentially putting kiddies out of jobs :(


and yeah i know that you don't get paid blah blah

[ReviewDude]

it's nice to know that habbo cares about small businesses in times of economic crisis :(


call the bbc!


potentially putting kiddies out of jobs :(


and yeah i know that you don't get paid blah blah

Habbox may be many things, but calling it a business is a bit far :P

[GommeInc]

Habbo is where most new users come from though.
Depends, users can still come from Habbo through word of mouth. Forum users will still use Habbo, it just won't be a Habbo forum and Habbo users may find the lack of Habbo forums somewhat annoying, but then again, general use forums are what sell a forum of any kind, just to get away from the main theme.


Habbox may be many things, but calling it a business is a bit far :P
It could technically be a business. A not-for-profit public benefit association, but they don't advertise themselves as that, which is why it isn't :D

[leah]

Yeah, I hardly ever post in the habbo section so I agree with you Ryan.
Most people use this forum for general forums and things.

[ReviewDude]

Depends, users can still come from Habbo through word of mouth. Forum users will still use Habbo, it just won't be a Habbo forum and Habbo users may find the lack of Habbo forums somewhat annoying, but then again, general use forums are what sell a forum of any kind, just to get away from the main theme.

I think removing their USP by getting rid of the 'Habbo' from the forums would be akin to cutting off their nose to spite their face - it wouldn't lose Habbo any business, and would just lose the site its popularity. Sure, it'd still be busy, but less so.