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Swearwolf
14-02-2009, 02:49 PM
I'm pretty sure it is... the date and time resets upon restart, when I reload the forum the skin also changes to default one, lol & I can't log onto msn until i set the date and sync the time :(

Joe!
16-02-2009, 12:12 AM
Sounds like it, replace the battery and see what happens :)

Stephen!
16-02-2009, 12:49 AM
It doesn't sound like it. The only thing that would change would be the date and time and settings at the BIOS level.

And even then, you would have to completley remove power to your computer for it to happen e.g turn off the PSU or unplug it.

Sounds like a Windows problem

Jin
17-02-2009, 08:33 PM
It doesn't sound like it. The only thing that would change would be the date and time and settings at the BIOS level.

And even then, you would have to completley remove power to your computer for it to happen e.g turn off the PSU or unplug it.

Sounds like a Windows problem

What are you on about? That is complete rubbish.

Anyway, BIOS data is stored in a CMOS chip which is volatile memory if there is no power to it then it will forget everything that was stored. Hence what the little battery on your mobo is for, so when you power off your machine or even unplug it (for lets say because you are moving house) whatever reason bios is still updating the time and date.

The problem you have described about time and date seems to be a battery issue, I would suggest replacing it as they are inexpensive although the skin issue would be unrelated.

Robbie
17-02-2009, 08:38 PM
The skin issue would be due to browser cookies.

Stephen!
18-02-2009, 08:59 PM
The problem you have described about time and date seems to be a battery issue

He says he is rebooting the computer and it happens, the computer is being fed a continuous flow of power therefore nothing is going to be lost or reset. It's Windows.


When replacing the cell, the system time and CMOS BIOS settings may revert to default values. This may be avoided by replacing the cell with the power supply master switch on. On ATX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX) motherboards, this will supply 5V standby power to the motherboard even if it is apparently "switched off", and keep the CMOS memory energized. The settings will stay as long as the PSU is turned on.

The time and date will continue to tick as long as the PSU is switched on.

Recursion
18-02-2009, 09:07 PM
What are you on about? That is complete rubbish.

Anyway, BIOS data is stored in a CMOS chip which is volatile memory if there is no power to it then it will forget everything that was stored. Hence what the little battery on your mobo is for, so when you power off your machine or even unplug it (for lets say because you are moving house) whatever reason bios is still updating the time and date.

The problem you have described about time and date seems to be a battery issue, I would suggest replacing it as they are inexpensive although the skin issue would be unrelated.

I would have to say your wrong for once Jin, Stephen is right here, if the battery dies then the motherboard falls back to PSU power, so the time and date would only reset if he turned the computer off at the PSU or wall every night, but actually, the battery is sure to live for years and years because the motherboard uses the power from the PSU to keep the CMOS date and time, it only uses the battery when you unplug the computer or turn the PSU off.

I'm not sure if Windows does look at the BIOS time and date, but if it did, then it would update over the internet anyway.

How old is the computer?

Swearwolf
18-02-2009, 09:12 PM
yeah replaced the battery and it seemed fine, I got given a new motherboard and cpu yesterday so theres no problems now :) thx anyway everyone

Recursion
18-02-2009, 09:16 PM
If you got a new motherboard and CPU then you invalidate your point and me and Stephen are still very much correct. IOHEIOJFIOJWEOPKLPCMKQWJ FI9W3F WEIDFJ QOPDFKQWO-DQWJ

When you shutdown Windows, there is still constant power flowing to the motherboard until you unplug it from the wall or switch the PSU off at the back.

Jin
18-02-2009, 10:29 PM
If you got a new motherboard and CPU then you invalidate your point and me and Stephen are still very much correct. IOHEIOJFIOJWEOPKLPCMKQWJ FI9W3F WEIDFJ QOPDFKQWO-DQWJ

When you shutdown Windows, there is still constant power flowing to the motherboard until you unplug it from the wall or switch the PSU off at the back.

HMM I don't really know what to believe now until I get a voltmeter or take the battery out my mobo and see for myself. Although your points seem logical I can't think of a real reason why the time and date would reset due to an OS error.

Swearwolf
18-02-2009, 10:35 PM
If you got a new motherboard and CPU then you invalidate your point and me and Stephen are still very much correct. IOHEIOJFIOJWEOPKLPCMKQWJ FI9W3F WEIDFJ QOPDFKQWO-DQWJ

When you shutdown Windows, there is still constant power flowing to the motherboard until you unplug it from the wall or switch the PSU off at the back.

I replaced the battery first from my new motherboard before i swapped them over and it sorted the problem, i then put new motherboard in as the cpu socket was different and my old cpu was 1.4ghz and new is 2.2ghz

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