Finally..

[scottish]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7892073.stm

[kk.]

if tpb gets shut, another site will take its place. pretty pointless tbh

[Agnostic Bear]

Not a chance of it happening.

[N!ck]

They claim that if they get taken down/servers conviscated again they can be back up within 3 minutes, so ya know...

[Kyle!]

They aren't doing anything illegal, there isn't a chance they will get prosecuted, nothing to worry about.

[HotelUser]

http://thepiratebay.org/legal -yawn-

[wsg14]

http://thepiratebay.org/legal -yawn-

I read through those a while ago, some made me laugh tbh.

[Recursion]

They have servers spread out throughout the world and not even the owners know where they all are, they are also doing nothing illegal so they will have no chance of shutting them down etc.

[Jahova]

They won't be done. They host none of the warez, they just link to it. It's swedish law, so they should be fine.

[timROGERS]

They're good at what they do, they will not get jail time or a government fine. They may fall foul of the civil (suing) case though.

[Ardemax]

I'm not sure of what will happen tbh.

[scottish]

Hopefully they get charged and the government or whoever get access to list of its clients and track downloads and fine everyone who downloaded illegal files, then i laugh at 99% of the forum.

[kk.]

Hopefully they get charged and the government or whoever get access to list of its clients and track downloads and fine everyone who downloaded illegal files, then i laugh at 99% of the forum.

LOL that would never happen

[scottish]

Would be bloody classic though, all the cheapskates at long last have to pay :P

Hell the music/movie industries would be making trillions within hours.

[Flisker]

They don't keep records of any torrents or trackers. So I doubt that would work :P

[Source]

Would be bloody classic though, all the cheapskates at long last have to pay :P

Hell the music/movie industries would be making trillions within hours.

You have huge issues, always wanting to see people get "owned" for using illegally obtained software. I have used torrents many times to get copies of CS3 as I don't have the disc nor can I get a trial... I do however have a legal serial number to use with the whole CS3 suite. So does that involve me with illegal activities?

I also use torrents for getting things off of revision3... does that make me illegal? Not everything torrent is illegal, stop been so narrow minded.

[scottish]

Yes because you can request another disk from Adobe i'm pretty sure if you verify you have a valid serial number; the fact you have a legal serial number doesn't beat the fact your illegally downloading it in the first place.

Did i say everything is illegal? no i did not. Did i mention music and movies yes i did.


Hopefully they get charged and the government or whoever get access to list of its clients and track downloads and fine everyone who downloaded illegal files, then i laugh at 99% of the forum.

OH HELL LOOK AT THAT, I even mentioned everyone who downloaded ILLEGAL, yes can you read that, ILLEGAL files.


ILLEGAL

Can you read that? Don't post if your not even going to read the thread then try to argue with me.

[Recursion]

I have to say that you have turned into a complete ass hole about this whole illegal downloading thing lately. People do what they want so leave them to it.

[Jordy]

I have to say that you have turned into a complete ass hole about this whole illegal downloading thing lately. People do what they want so leave them to it.Got to agree with you there Tawm.

Edit: You're totally on your own here, let me guess you had a bad experience or something? One day you started torrenting, your dad found out and told you off for stealing. He then completely brain-washed you and made you pay for all your music and movies etc and while you spent so much on it all, thinking you're helping the industry keeps going, everyone you know does the torrenting and you just get jealous :P

[scottish]

Ofc i am because 99% of the forum download illegaly, their not going to complain about it are they?

[Jordy]

Ofc i am because 99% of the forum download illegaly, their not going to complain about it are they?86% of statistics are made-up. It's quite evident that there's lots of people who download legally, look at this thread here: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=561025

The only difference is they're not preaching and keep their mouth shut. It'd begin getting very annoying everytime someone mentions iTunes vouchers if the whole 'Pirate' lot came over and started posting links to trackers.

[scottish]

I'm not mentioning it in every thread, i'm mentioning it in my thread. Difference ;)

[Flisker]

I'm not mentioning it in every thread, i'm mentioning it in my thread. Difference ;)
*REMOVED*. I guess I should remove that part. Do you have evidence that 99% of people on this forum download illegally?

[Jordy]

I'm not mentioning it in every thread, i'm mentioning it in my thread. Difference ;)Aha well now you are a fool.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=535174
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=550183
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=538153
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=553129
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=515249
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=539244
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=543546
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=552394
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=553805
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=537173
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=533793
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=533330
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=523432

Maybe I do have far too much time on my hands but one things for sure, you don't half talk a load of ********.

PWNED.

[scottish]

Correct; but other guy said "recently" i've not posted in every single thread about it, if you want i'll look over every thread about illegal downloading and i will post in it.

Those threads were not exactly within the last few weeks? ;)


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[Recursion]

LMAO. Well done Jordy :P

[scottish]

I have to say that you have turned into a complete ass hole about this whole illegal downloading thing lately. People do what they want so leave them to it.

I see keyword "lately" which would indicate last few weeks


Correct; but other guy said "recently" i've not posted in every single thread about it, if you want i'll look over every thread about illegal downloading and i will post in it.

Those threads were not exactly within the last few weeks? ;)


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Oh last post was in mid-january

half of the threads are recommending people buy from retailers? hardly complaining about torrents?

and at your last posts edit (last page). No i've just never downloaded illegaly, i don't see the point in breaking the law to get something i can afford its just stupid. and half your excuses are just idiotic

"Oh thats stupid why pay £300 for software which i can download for free"

which is the same as

"Oh thats just stupid why pay £3000 for a car when i can just steal it"

[kk.]

i think your pissed because youve bought all your stuff like PS and DW and whatever else and others are just d/l. Use your common sense and u d/l it illegally. So long as you dont do it often they wont prosecute you. I fail to see how the industry expects people to know how to use programs which cost so much. £400 a piece of software is not in the price range of teenagers...

[scottish]

Common sense says don't do something you can get jailed for? not the opposite way kid.

I'm not pissed lmao

If you can't afford £400 theres always alternative software out there. Most teenagers don't even need it but to make habbo signatures :rolleyes:

[kk.]

dont u ******* call me kid...
and tbh, it does sound like ur pissed.. moaning about how people d/l for free. Its not the fact that you cant use other software, its the fact that the design industry wants specific experience with one of the most recognisable applications. dreamweaver, frontpage, photoshop, illustrator, flash etc... Strangley enough, it all costs around £300.. surprise surprise.

And thats another point, why would u want to fork out that much money just to make a habbo signature. Maybe they want to use the features that PS has and not use crappy paint to try and apply a shadow

[Source]

Looks like we are hitting on someone's nerves here ;)

Downloading the software off of torrents for things such as the adobe photoshop cs3 installer is not illegal, as in reality its just a copy of the trial downloads they had on the adobe site before they replaced them with cs4. It becomes illegal when you activate it using a keygen, etc...

[kk.]

Looks like we are hitting on someone's nerves here ;)

Downloading the software off of torrents for things such as the adobe photoshop cs3 installer is not illegal, as in reality its just a copy of the trial downloads they had on the adobe site before they replaced them with cs4. It becomes illegal when you activate it using a keygen, etc...

if theyre that bothered about them losing X amount every year then they should invest mroe time and money in making the trial copies more stringent on how they are activated. Im sure if they did that then they wouldnt lose out as much,, ie, money put in < money recieved

[Source]

They should spend more time making the trial copies harder to crack, but I doubt they will, as people will break it as fast as they solve it.

Without torrents/rapdishare downloads of photoshop the chances are it wouldn't be leading in the industry.. so in a way they can almost thank the community for that.

[Tomm]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7895026.stm

Woops.

[kk.]

They should spend more time making the trial copies harder to crack, but I doubt they will, as people will break it as fast as they solve it.

Without torrents/rapdishare downloads of photoshop the chances are it wouldn't be leading in the industry.. so in a way they can almost thank to community for that.

I actually agree quite a lot, i never thought of it like that before :P

[scottish]

dont u ******* call me kid...
and tbh, it does sound like ur pissed.. moaning about how people d/l for free. Its not the fact that you cant use other software, its the fact that the design industry wants specific experience with one of the most recognisable applications. dreamweaver, frontpage, photoshop, illustrator, flash etc... Strangley enough, it all costs around £300.. surprise surprise.

And thats another point, why would u want to fork out that much money just to make a habbo signature. Maybe they want to use the features that PS has and not use crappy paint to try and apply a shadow

That kind of excuse is just plane lame. "Oh i want a CD player for my car, it doesn't come with this feature and i can't be bothered paying for it, hey theres a similar car with a CD player lets steal it".


Looks like we are hitting on someone's nerves here ;)

Downloading the software off of torrents for things such as the adobe photoshop cs3 installer is not illegal, as in reality its just a copy of the trial downloads they had on the adobe site before they replaced them with cs4. It becomes illegal when you activate it using a keygen, etc...

not rli..

If you read my post i said illegal files such as keygens/music, etc.


if theyre that bothered about them losing X amount every year then they should invest mroe time and money in making the trial copies more stringent on how they are activated. Im sure if they did that then they wouldnt lose out as much,, ie, money put in < money recieved

I'm pretty sure they couldnt just open their application and stick in "MONEYZ RECEIVED < LESS DAN MONEYZ NEEDED = PRODUCT NO WORK" and there'll always be ways around it and making files more secure could cause more problems for clients, i think the spore game it was that had that and clients suffered?


They should spend more time making the trial copies harder to crack, but I doubt they will, as people will break it as fast as they solve it.

Without torrents/rapdishare downloads of photoshop the chances are it wouldn't be leading in the industry.. so in a way they can almost thank to community for that.

LOLOLOOOLOLOL yes its due to torrents that its popular :rolleyes:

[Source]

Loads and loads of people would not be using it if they had to pay it. In some ways it ends up better for them, I wouldn't have bought a license if I hadn't had used it a good year before illegally, sometimes 30 days just isn't enough of a trial ;)

[scottish]

If it wasnt popular in the first place not many people would know of it so it's hardly have any people uploading it on sites for people to download in the first place, furthermore it'd have hardly any users downloading it if it wasnt popular.

[Source]

There is a huge difference between popular and the market leader with the biggest usershare.

Corel Draw is "popular" but its not the market leader.

[scottish]

So you think its benefiting the company losing thousands due to people illegaly downloading their software? LOLOL.

[kk.]

That kind of excuse is just plain* lame. "Oh i want a CD player for my car, it doesn't come with this feature and i can't be bothered paying for it, hey theres a similar car with a CD player lets steal it".

And the rest of what i said?


I'm pretty sure they couldnt just open their application and stick in "MONEYZ RECEIVED < LESS DAN MONEYZ NEEDED = PRODUCT NO WORK" and there'll always be ways around it and making files more secure could cause more problems for clients, i think the spore game it was that had that and clients suffered?

*** are you on about? (btw i meant > not <) What i was saying was if the amount of money they invest is less than what they would receive from the extra amount of amount of people buying it


LOLOLOOOLOLOL yes its due to torrents that its popular :rolleyes:

lol, think what you think but it mustve contributed somehow

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[DaveTaylor]

This court case will go no where, probably just give them more publicity.


There has been high drama on the second day of the Pirate Bay trial. Due to serious shortcomings in the prosecution evidence, around 50% of the charges in the case are going to have to be withdrawn. The defense describes it as a ’sensation’, seeing half of the charges being dropped on the second day.

[Jordy]

So you think its benefiting the company losing thousands due to people illegaly downloading their software? LOLOL.They're not losing money though? They're just not gaining as much as they perhaps 'should'. People who torrent it wouldn't necessarily buy it if there wasn't 'free methods' around.

[The Professor]

I'm gonna ignore the arguing because I'm too godly to sink to that level (H)

I love TPB's attitude to this, they're showing up what is a ridiculous set of laws and prosecutions that attempt to punish people for making the internet work. They'll never beat pirates anyway, its simply an arms race. The game and film industry needs to create DRM that makes it uncopyable and the pirates will carry on cracking it. Going after TPB or bittorrent or limewire or whoever they decide to prosecute isn't going to help the problem because there are a thousand and one services poised to pick up where they leave off.

And either way, I last used torrents to download a couple of linux distros so they do have their legal uses.

[Recursion]

We have a Dreamweaver CS3 license which we would not have bought if I hadn't used a downloaded copy of it a year before.

So actually, piracy gives us the motive to BUY people's products, I wouldn't have bought Lily Allen's new album on iTunes if my friend hadn't have downloaded it for me first.

[scottish]

They're not losing money though? They're just not gaining as much as they perhaps 'should'. People who torrent it wouldn't necessarily buy it if there wasn't 'free methods' around.

They are; they're losing their software which has a cost to people who pay nothing for it; so they're losing their products and their products is their source of revenue so they ain't getting the moeny they should have so.


We have a Dreamweaver CS3 license which we would not have bought if I hadn't used a downloaded copy of it a year before.

So actually, piracy gives us the motive to BUY people's products, I wouldn't have bought Lily Allen's new album on iTunes if my friend hadn't have downloaded it for me first.

Thats why trails were invented :rolleyes: Theres legal sites to listen to music.

[Recursion]

I want to put it on my iPod. I can't use a website everywhere I go.

30 days isn't enough, if it was like 3 months then fair enough but the point is we still bought a license.

[LOLROB]

This court case will go no where, probably just give them more publicity.

Very true Dave

[Ardemax]

I don't think its fair on people that buy legal things that other people can just illegally download them.

But that's my opinion.

[The Professor]

I don't think its fair on people that buy legal things that other people can just illegally download them.

But that's my opinion.

Nope, but life generally isn't fair. Not doing things because it might be unfair to someone else in the world is kinda going against nature :P

[Ardemax]

Nope, but life generally isn't fair. Not doing things because it might be unfair to someone else in the world is kinda going against nature :P

*human nature

we wouldn't like to be falsely accusing Mr. Tiggles now would we :D

[no waiii]

I don't think its fair on people that buy legal things that other people can just illegally download them.

But that's my opinion.

well its there own choice if they choose to ignore that you can download them for free, there all probley worrywarts

[Zak]

Sorry, but I can't remove search.php - our users would get upset if TPB
suddenly lacked a search function.
The problem here seems to be that the material is unreleased? If that is
the case, you can easily fix the problem by releasing it. We'll be more
than glad to help you distribute it - free of charge! - to our users.

Made me LOL
(It's their reply to Warner)

[Implement]

They're funny, they've always got an answer for everything - and it's always pretty much hilarious.