11 year old kills pregnant woman

[stickwitu]

An 11-year-old boy shot his father's pregnant girlfriend in the back of the head while she was in bed, then got on the school bus, authorities said.

Jordan Brown, of Wampum, Pennsylvania, was charged on Saturday as an adult with murdering Kenzie Marie Houk, who was eight months pregnant, and her unborn baby, Lawrence County District Attorney John Bongivengo said.


The charges were criminal homicide and criminal homicide of an unborn child.


The fifth-grader was picked up from school on Friday by Pennsylvania State Police, who found Ms Houk's body at the farmhouse where she lived, about 35 miles north west of Pittsburgh, after her four-year-old daughter told tree cutters on the property that she thought her mother was dead, Mr Bongivengo said.


Brown told police there was a suspicious black truck on the property that morning, causing investigators to look into a false lead for about five hours.
But inconsistencies in the boy's description of the vehicle led police to reinterview the victim's seven-year-old daughter, who implicated the boy, Mr Bongivengo said.


"She didn't actually eyewitness the shooting. She saw him with what she believed to be a shotgun and heard a loud bang," he said, adding that the weapon, a youth model 20-gauge shotgun, was found in what police believed was the boy's bedroom.


The shotgun, which apparently belonged to Brown, is designed for children and such weapons do not have to be registered.
Brown's lawyer, Dennis Elisco, said the evidence pointed to the gunshot wound being "consistent" with the boy's hunting gun, but he wanted to see stronger proof. I believe Jordan did not do this and I'm looking forward to seeing the physical evidence to see if it matches with what I think happened," he said.


The lawyer also said he met the boy's father, Christopher Brown, and planned to file a motion to have the boy released on bail and move the case to juvenile court.

What the hell is wrong with these people.

[Nixt]

I can't believe that there are weapons designed for children?

[J0SH]

Oh yes, lets pick up a shotgun and shoot her in the back of the head, what a random thing, and yet again it's another American based killing, do they sell guns to anyone these days? (In America) it's a bit harder to get a fire arm here but in America if you go hunting or something, you've got a gun.. o_O

[efq]

How on earth does a 11 year old know how to do that, do they teach them in school?

[Ashhizzle]

How on earth does a 11 year old know how to do that, do they teach them in school?
Urm, dunno about you but ive known how to fire a gun since i was about 5?

Did you never have toy cowboy guns as a child?

lol.

[Nixt]

Urm, dunno about you but ive known how to fire a gun since i was about 5?

Did you never have toy cowboy guns as a child?

lol.

Loading, firing and maintaining a weapon is just a smidgeon more complicated than firing a toy gun?! Lol.

[Hecktix]

he lived on a farm... most farms even here have shotguns onsite.

maybe the son had the gun 'cause he wanted to follow his father, and went shooting with his father?

[Nixt]

he lived on a farm... most farms even here have shotguns onsite.

maybe the son had the gun 'cause he wanted to follow his father, and went shooting with his father?

Perhaps. But personally I would not allow my child to handle a weapon until at least his or her teens and if I thought they were mature enough and there was a need for it. I highly doubt my children will ever need to handle a weapon, neither do I think a child of eleven, regardless of his or her surroundings, should carry a gun.

[Ashhizzle]

Loading, firing and maintaining a weapon is just a smidgeon more complicated than firing a toy gun?! Lol.
Loading: Its a shotgun, only one end of the casing will fit into the barell, Easy.
Firing: Pulling a trigger? much like a toy gun ;)
Maintaining: I'd imagine his father did most of that, & theres not really much to maintain on a shotgun really is there...

[RedStratocas]

How on earth does a 11 year old know how to do that, do they teach them in school?

guns arent very hard to use? ive never even held one, but im sure you can figure it out pretty easy.

[Nixt]

Loading: Its a shotgun, only one end of the casing will fit into the barell, Easy.
Firing: Pulling a trigger? much like a toy gun ;)
Maintaining: I'd imagine his father did most of that, & theres not really much to maintain on a shotgun really is there...

I am not denying that the child has obviously been taught, by his father, how to fire a weapon. I was merely saying that it's not as simple as firing a toy gun. If I gave my 11 year old brother an unloaded shotgun I think it would require much thought to load and fire it. Not only that if he managed to load it, firing it would mean taking great care as you have to think about weapon kick back etc. Oh, and you don't load shotgun shells via the barrel, as such.

[Eight.]

Pretty scary, Why didn't the father put the shotgun somewhere safe up high in a cupboard with keys

[Anvrew]

I smell a serial killer.

[Jord]

How on earth does a 11 year old know how to do that, do they teach them in school?


Im sure anyone knows how to fire a gun aim point pull triger.

[Ashhizzle]

I am not denying that the child has obviously been taught, by his father, how to fire a weapon. I was merely saying that it's not as simple as firing a toy gun. If I gave my 11 year old brother an unloaded shotgun I think it would require much thought to load and fire it. Not only that if he managed to load it, firing it would mean taking great care as you have to think about weapon kick back etc. Oh, and you don't load shotgun shells via the barrel, as such.
I agree, he must have been taught well enough to do it himself though, And I doubt it would have much kickback as it was specificly designed for children, so he would really be able to do it all with relative ease.

The shotgun im thinking of is a double barrell, no idea what type this kid had. :P

[e5]

:@ this stuff makes me so ******* angry. It's like why would a kid get the idea to shoot someone in the back of the head?

He didn't only kill 1 person, but 2 - With one shot like that. ******* horrible :'( :@

I wish I could express how I feel in words, but what this kid has done is far too much to explain in words, and show how I feel... It's just like other news stories I hear, makes me angryyy, WHY DO IT:@?! Sick or not sick - Just have some common sense, DONT KILL PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jahova]

Some people are stupid and leave their guns in easily accessible areas for their children. People like this disgust me.

[Absently]

Why would he just do that? There must of been something wrong in his head maybe?

Or maybe his parents are divorced and he was jealous of the woman and wanted to get rid of her and her baby..?

Or that he thought his dad wasn't paying enough attention to him?

It's well and truly sick ''/

[Niall!]

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[le harry]

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[Kieeran]

How on earth does a 11 year old know how to do that, do they teach them in school?

You underestimate eleven year olds, if it was 5 then yeah how but at 11 it wouldn't really be that hard

[Kipp]

Sick child. He makes me feel sick, I hope he rots away in prision, I don't care if the guy is a kid.

[Axel]

worse would happen if Britain allowed guns.

[Meg.]

Wow... that's all I have to say O_O

[Nixt]

worse would happen if Britain allowed guns.

Probably, but we don't?!

[GommeInc]

I read the first part of the article wrong and was like "Wah?"


and her unborn baby, Lawrence County District Attorney John Bongivengo said.

That baby grew up fast :P

Holy cow, there are guns designed for children!? And they blame the boy? If they don't want children shooting at anything, then why design guns for them? And what's to stop an adult from buying a gun designed for children? They don't have to be registered (as the article says).

Does make you wonder what's up with this planet :/

[Virgin Mary]

I read the first part of the article wrong and was like "Wah?"



That baby grew up fast :P

Holy cow, there are guns designed for children!? And they blame the boy? If they don't want children shooting at anything, then why design guns for them? And what's to stop an adult from buying a gun designed for children? They don't have to be registered (as the article says).

Does make you wonder what's up with this planet :/
They're both at fault. Legalising guns is stupid - it's like the argument about people carrying knives, you don't have it if you don't plan on using it. But the kid obviously had issues and at the end of the day the gun didn't go off by itself.

[Youheard]

I am not denying that the child has obviously been taught, by his father, how to fire a weapon. I was merely saying that it's not as simple as firing a toy gun. If I gave my 11 year old brother an unloaded shotgun I think it would require much thought to load and fire it. Not only that if he managed to load it, firing it would mean taking great care as you have to think about weapon kick back etc. Oh, and you don't load shotgun shells via the barrel, as such.

It says in the article that the shotgun was a 20 gauge which means it has far less recoil than the more commonly used 12 gauge.

Also with most shotguns (unless semi automatic) you 'snap' the barrel of the shotgun and place the cartridges into both barrels (assuming it is double barreled) and as someone said above there is only one way that they will fit in.

I agree this is pretty disturbing but you cannot simply blame guns for what he did. I'm pretty sure he would've used a knife or anything else he had at his disposal had it not been a shotgun. Seems to me that he's just one messed up little child that hopefully will spend the rest of his life locked up!

Me and my younger brothers have been bought up around and using guns and I'd never dream of even pointing an unloaded shotgun at anyone let alone a loaded one. Being shown how to use a gun properly and appropriately usually teaches you a great amount of respect for the damage such a weapon can do clearly though that is not always the case!

[Immenseman]

I read the first part of the article wrong and was like "Wah?"



That baby grew up fast :P

Holy cow, there are guns designed for children!? And they blame the boy? If they don't want children shooting at anything, then why design guns for them? And what's to stop an adult from buying a gun designed for children? They don't have to be registered (as the article says).

Does make you wonder what's up with this planet :/

I'm sure there are thousands of children who have guns for whatever reason but have been taught how to use them properly.