Mac or Windows?

[VistaBoy]

Okay ill get this topic started by saying...
I need some help i have been thinking all week as i am getting a new computer as i am giving my new-ish one to my bro and i am getting bored of windows and there is Mac as anther OS so i need help Mac or Windows.
If i get a mac i would get a MacBook one of them but what one i do not know if i get windows ill just build anther computer the same or a little better then what i got now.
The thing thats got me down is it werth the money as i am in AU the cost is a bit bigger (well a lot) then the US so you can see (click here (http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook)).
Now on the the spec if i get a windows it will just the basic 4GB ram qoud core etc. but if i get a mac i got a nice looking computer the Mac OS and from what i have been told you can run windows vista under boot camp but i am not to sure how well it would run under the specs of a mac.
So the botton line Mac or windows whats the best go.

[Sunny.]

and i am getting bored of windows.
There is your answer, get a mac.

[Stephen!]

If you like games you can still go for a Mac and run Windows on it, but beware you won't be able to play the latest games on high detail.

[2hd.]

Having just moved to an old-school iBook i'd definetly say Mac. It isn't as hard to get used to as everyone says, I mastered mine in a few days. Plus, when you look at them in terms of software issues, there are barely any. In terms of hardware, this Mac has had £40 spent on it in the last four years, only to replace an old battery, compared to the ££££'s you may spend on a Windows based PC infected with Spyware that takes a trip to PC World every six months...

[Josh-H]

I switched to a macbook 2 years ago, havn't looked back.

[Kyle!]

Go for Mac.

[HotelUser]

I just switched to a Mac in December and I certainly wouldn't go back to using Vista as my main operating system.....or my operating system on anything for that matter:P.

[Recursion]

I'm not going to give you any bull ****.

Try each one out and then make your own decision.


Having just moved to an old-school iBook i'd definetly say Mac. It isn't as hard to get used to as everyone says, I mastered mine in a few days. Plus, when you look at them in terms of software issues, there are barely any. In terms of hardware, this Mac has had £40 spent on it in the last four years, only to replace an old battery, compared to the ££££'s you may spend on a Windows based PC infected with Spyware that takes a trip to PC World every six months...

Excuse me? Most of the users in this Tech section have never taken a PC to PC World to be "fixed" seeing as any computer user with half a brain would Google a virus/problem and see how to remove it themselves.


All your going to get here is a load of Mac vs PC crap again, as I said, try both out, or even try installing Linux, which is based of UNIX (like OS X), is 99% free and works on any computer out there.

P.S. I like the way all the Mac users come flooding in first.

[Nick.]

I'm not going to give you any bull ****.

Try each one out and then make your own decision.



Excuse me? Most of the users in this Tech section have never taken a PC to PC World to be "fixed" seeing as any computer user with half a brain would Google a virus/problem and see how to remove it themselves.


All your going to get here is a load of Mac vs PC crap again, as I said, try both out, or even try installing Linux, which is based of UNIX (like OS X), is 99% free and works on any computer out there.

P.S. I like the way all the Mac users come flooding in first.
lol@chu. why don't you just shut up, a lot of tech forum readers are mac users.

I got bored of Windows, switched to Mac and will never think twice about Windows again. I've just had much less trouble with the Mac. It's amazing.

[newWORLDorder]

I got bored of Windows, switched to Mac and will never think twice about Windows again. I've just had much less trouble with the Mac. It's amazing.

This. And the fact that the mac catered to me more in what I wanted in something im going to use nearly every day.

[Barmi]

Mac OS X is definitely a great operating system.

Aside from his last comment, I agree with *****'s post (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=5636056#post5636056).

[newWORLDorder]

I'm not going to give you any bull ****.

Try each one out and then make your own decision.



Excuse me? Most of the users in this Tech section have never taken a PC to PC World to be "fixed" seeing as any computer user with half a brain would Google a virus/problem and see how to remove it themselves.


All your going to get here is a load of Mac vs PC crap again, as I said, try both out, or even try installing Linux, which is based of UNIX (like OS X), is 99% free and works on any computer out there.

P.S. I like the way all the Mac users come flooding in first.

I agree with this, and as Barmi said, the last quote is not true, maybe there are more mac users active right now on the tech forum? Idk.

Most people straight away thing 'Windows Vista sucks', or 'Mac OS X sucks'. Pretty silly really.

[Lµke]

I'll be honest, until i visited a friends house around 2 and a half years ago now, i hadn't even rated Macintosh itself, only for iPods. My friend had a Mac and he let me use it and i just found it a breath of fresh air from windows, the way there was such attention to detail, and ease.

I saved up and last August bought my iMac 24" 2.8 GHz and am still learning and loving my Mac, i really cannot wait for Leopard. Plus there is no messing about with OS's from Mac, you pay one price for the OS, not like Windows where the more you pay the more you get in terms of features!

[marriott0.01]

If you want an all-rounder go for mac.

The only reason why windows is worst than mac is because it's shipped on any old computer, however MacOSX is built around the mac hardware making it a lot better. If microsoft did what apple did and shaped Windows around a specific line of it's own hardware then it could be good, admittedly they wouldn't be as rich.

Windows is only as good as the computer you run it on, but mac will always be good.

[VistaBoy]

is there a why to install mac osx on a windows pc?

[Agnostic Bear]

Linux, which is based of UNIX

No it's not.

Also anyone who prefers one os over another is an idiot, they all do the same thing. Apart from OS X and Lunix which has 0% chance of running extreme games.

[marriott0.01]

The only way is MacOSX86 but it's nothing compared to actually having a mac computer, and if you want a Mac buy a mac it's worth the money.

[Agnostic Bear]

The only way is MacOSX86 but it's nothing compared to actually having a mac computer, and if you want a Mac buy a mac it's worth the money.

No it's not. It's way too overpriced, build a silent pc, stick OSx86 on it, better value for money, if you want to complete your mac "eXPerience" buy a mouse and keyboard.

[VistaBoy]

No it's not. It's way too overpriced, build a silent pc, stick OSx86 on it, better value for money, if you want to complete your mac "eXPerience" buy a mouse and keyboard.

Okay as i have used the eMac at work i love it but i want to try it more as there are so many OSx86 ones out there whats the best and easiest to install?

[Agnostic Bear]

Okay as i have used the eMac at work i love it but i want to try it more as there are so many OSx86 ones out there whats the best and easiest to install?

I have no idea, I used iAtkos to get mine chugging, I'd say iPC from what I can tell that's pretty good.

[Recursion]

-sigh- This thread was so going to go the way I thought it would... and it did :rolleyes:

[HotelUser]

No it's not.

Also anyone who prefers one os over another is an idiot, they all do the same thing. Apart from OS X and Lunix which has 0% chance of running extreme games.

Nono. Anyone who can't tell the differences between OSX and Windows is an idiot. There are differences.

[Agnostic Bear]

Nono. Anyone who can't tell the differences between OSX and Windows is an idiot. There are differences.

Nono. They do exactly the same thing in different ways.

[GommeInc]

Try them both :/ Although judging by the religious response by the Mac users, I would of gone for a Windows PC, just because the whole Mac religious thing freaks me out :P

It depends entirely what you use it for, but as JewishBear says, they both do exactly the same things, except in different ways - it just depends on what way you want your computer to do them ;)

[Monopoly]

You have to go with the one you want...
They both have their pros and cons.
I'm on a MacBook, and I wouldn't go back to Windows, now but my family are all Windows users and hate my Mac. :p
Just what you're into, really.

[HotelUser]

Nono. They do exactly the same thing in different ways.

They do the same thing the same ways, and the same thing in different ways.

Then there are features unique to an operating system;).

[Recursion]

I still say try out Ubuntu.

[GommeInc]

They do the same thing the same ways, and the same thing in different ways.

Then there are features unique to an operating system;).
Such as? I can't think of any unique features. The bottom tray thing that Macs have isn't unique really, you can get that as an add-on for Ubuntu and XP/Vista. The music editor thing in Vista which allows you to edit the tags of photos, documents, music and videos in the folder window is kinda unique to Vista, I don't think OS/X has such a feature without opening up a program, but I've never dived that much into them to be honest :P

[marriott0.01]

Linux is good, but Microsoft really hate them, any big company that use Linux on a re-selled product, Tom Tom the new example, they'll sue them. Microsoft claim Linux is in breach of hundreds of MSFT patents.

Tbh, I hate Microsoft the whole vibe around the company, they are really uninnovative, and should just stick to applications, like MS Word.

[Recursion]

Who will they sue? Who exactly owns Linux? :P

[HotelUser]

Such as? I can't think of any unique features. The bottom tray thing that Macs have isn't unique really, you can get that as an add-on for Ubuntu and XP/Vista. The music editor thing in Vista which allows you to edit the tags of photos, documents, music and videos in the folder window is kinda unique to Vista, I don't think OS/X has such a feature without opening up a program, but I've never dived that much into them to be honest :P


The obvious ones: OSX is more stable, and secure. Windows is compatible with more games.

I'm going to count MSPaint as a unique feature because even if you downloaded a freeware OSX paint alternative it wont be as good.

I don't know who wins here, but Apple computers don't have BIOSes, where as PCs do.

My iMac came with Garageband, but I'm not sure whether or not OSX 10.5.x always comes with Garageband but regardless I think Garageband is unique.

Without any modifications or additional aplications, Windows cuts. Mac has the drag and snap thing, but it's not as fast as cutting.

Safari is better than Internet Explorer (as far as browsers that come with the OS go).

OSX has region, window and screen print screening. You can take screenshots of icons the perfect size, good quality and correct transparency.

OSX has a built in dictionary, and a lot of applications on OSX have built in spell check. An example being TextEdit. Windows's WordPad doesn't have built in spell check.

OSX has desktop spaces. To get spaces on Windows you have to get third party software.

Built in OSX allows different wallpaper for different desktops.


A lot of what I said is comparing the bare operating systems, without the user having of installed third party software. Third party software accomplishes a lot of what I said, but regardless my comparisons are valid. There's controversial things too, like Vista being incredibly bloated:D.

[Recursion]

The obvious ones: OSX is more stable, and secure. Windows is compatible with more games.


What brings you to that conclusion? :S



I'm going to count MSPaint as a unique feature because even if you downloaded a freeware OSX paint alternative it wont be as good.
What about The Gimp? :P



I don't know who wins here, but Apple computers don't have BIOSes, where as PCs do.
There isn't really a winner here anyway but I thought i'd comment on it anyway :P



My iMac came with Garageband, but I'm not sure whether or not OSX 10.5.x always comes with Garageband but regardless I think Garageband is unique.
That is one thing I do like, the iLife suite, which does come as standard with all Macs, Microsoft don't do this and I believe Apple did an incredible job of it.



Safari is better than Internet Explorer (as far as browsers that come with the OS go).
Very, very true.



OSX has region, window and screen print screening. You can take screenshots of icons the perfect size, good quality and correct transparency.
Windows has region too, it's called Snipping Tool and will do Window, Rectangular, Full Screen or Free Form :P



OSX has a built in dictionary, and a lot of applications on OSX have built in spell check. An example being TextEdit. Windows's WordPad doesn't have built in spell check.
True, OS X does have more word checkers I guess, but not much of a biggy.



OSX has desktop spaces. To get spaces on Windows you have to get third party software.
Not third party, its a software download from the Microsoft website, which I believe is probably a good thing, I don't use spaces on OSX86, Ubuntu or Windows with the MS Software, I think its good they give you the option :P



A lot of what I said is comparing the bare operating systems, without the user having of installed third party software. Third party software accomplishes a lot of what I said, but regardless my comparisons are valid. There's controversial things too, like Vista being incredibly bloated:D.

That last sentance was quite uncalled for, much like in one of my other posts, Vista is only "bloated" if it is on the lowest machines of today's world, plenty of people, even school and businesses use Vista with no problems.

I have to say, you did well to be quite unbiased for once! :P

[James!]

Vista & XP are great operating systems, I just prefer OS X.

[GommeInc]

The obvious ones: OSX is more stable, and secure. Windows is compatible with more games.

I'm going to count MSPaint as a unique feature because even if you downloaded a freeware OSX paint alternative it wont be as good.

I don't know who wins here, but Apple computers don't have BIOSes, where as PCs do.

My iMac came with Garageband, but I'm not sure whether or not OSX 10.5.x always comes with Garageband but regardless I think Garageband is unique.

Without any modifications or additional aplications, Windows cuts. Mac has the drag and snap thing, but it's not as fast as cutting.

Safari is better than Internet Explorer (as far as browsers that come with the OS go).

OSX has region, window and screen print screening. You can take screenshots of icons the perfect size, good quality and correct transparency.

OSX has a built in dictionary, and a lot of applications on OSX have built in spell check. An example being TextEdit. Windows's WordPad doesn't have built in spell check.

OSX has desktop spaces. To get spaces on Windows you have to get third party software.

Built in OSX allows different wallpaper for different desktops.


A lot of what I said is comparing the bare operating systems, without the user having of installed third party software. Third party software accomplishes a lot of what I said, but regardless my comparisons are valid. There's controversial things too, like Vista being incredibly bloated:D.
Good to see someone can pick out the comparisons, never knew all them :D But I'd put the first one about stability and security down to the user. An idiot could destroy an OS/X machine as they would a Windows machine too :P

[James!]

I'll be honest, until i visited a friends house around 2 and a half years ago now, i hadn't even rated Macintosh itself, only for iPods. My friend had a Mac and he let me use it and i just found it a breath of fresh air from windows, the way there was such attention to detail, and ease.

I saved up and last August bought my iMac 24" 2.8 GHz and am still learning and loving my Mac, i really cannot wait for Leopard. Plus there is no messing about with OS's from Mac, you pay one price for the OS, not like Windows where the more you pay the more you get in terms of features!
Leopard was released ages ago? :S

[HotelUser]

An idiot could destroy an OS/X machine as they would a Windows machine too :P
I think I'd first ask myself why I let an idiot on my computer:P. But yeah, you could destroy both pretty easily. But that's what Time Machine and system restore are for:D.


What brings you to that conclusion? :S
(Assuming it's not a Hackintosh) Less hardware actually benefits OSX here. BSODs on Windows is exaggerated, but you still get more BSODs (based off my own experience as well as a lot of other people's) then you get Kernal panics. I should have said, I find it to be more stable.



What about The Gimp? :P
I like Paint:P.



There isn't really a winner here anyway but I thought i'd comment on it anyway :P
Thanks for the thought;)

Windows has region too, it's called Snipping Tool and will do Window, Rectangular, Full Screen or Free Form :P
I was thinking more XP when I wrote this one. I knew Vista had snipping tool, but I didn't know it captures Windows too. Useful, but on OSX it saves the transparency, adds fading and say I had two windows overlapping each other, if I took a picture of the non active window, the one semi-behind another window, on Windows it would show the two windows overlapping. On OSX it captures the entire window, regardless of it being an overlapped non-active window. Still, The snipping tool is nice.


True, OS X does have more word checkers I guess, but not much of a biggy.
Personally I like it. The built in text-to-speech is handy too.



Not third party, its a software download from the Microsoft website, which I believe is probably a good thing, I don't use spaces on OSX86, Ubuntu or Windows with the MS Software, I think its good they give you the option :P
It's too bad they didn't include it in Vista then.



That last sentance was quite uncalled for, much like in one of my other posts, Vista is only "bloated" if it is on the lowest machines of today's world, plenty of people, even school and businesses use Vista with no problems.
technically I said Vista being bloated was controversial, I didn't actually take a side (although you know what I think, though I don't see a point getting this genuine thread closed because of any arguments that may transpire because of it:P). The entire board of education in my area just bought new computers for all the high schools. They disallowed the use of Vista:P. Though you're right, a lot of other businesses and schools, as well as consumers do use Vista. But it's not as if they have much of a choice. Then again, a lot of users also probably don't care.

http://macmee.com/screenshots/taw.png
Who needs office when you can use that :D




I have to say, you did well to be quite unbiased for once! :P

I have no idea what you're talking about:eusa_whis.

(Though I can say the same about you:P)

[Recursion]

That TextEdit was uncalled for man.

[HotelUser]

That TextEdit was uncalled for man.

I was just showing you how AMAZING TextEdit is:@.

[Lelouch]

The obvious ones: OSX is more stable, and secure. Windows is compatible with more games.
.
LOL


I was just showing you how AMAZING TextEdit is:@.
Let's base a decision on an obsolete word processor. You'll most likely be using Microsoft Office anyway.

Before making an impulsive move based on a Mac's justification for buying the overpriced "quality" hardware. Consider this, you may run Windows on a Mac and Mac on Windows. So unless you're willing to pay the extra 2xxxAUD for the lulz, get Windows, or atleast Linux.

[Kyle!]

LOL


Let's base a decision on an obsolete word processor. You'll most likely be using Microsoft Office anyway.

Before making an impulsive move based on a Mac's justification for buying the overpriced "quality" hardware. Consider this, you may run Windows on a Mac and Mac on Windows. So unless you're willing to pay the extra 2xxxAUD for the lulz, get Windows, or atleast Linux.

I don't know what your talking about... OS X is a more stable operating system... It's fact. TextEdit is good, it's just like wordpad that you'd get in Windows except TextEdit is better, and I'm not being biased, it just is.

[RedStratocas]

Try them both :/ Although judging by the religious response by the Mac users, I would of gone for a Windows PC, just because the whole Mac religious thing freaks me out :P

meh, i have a mac and i love it but im not married to it. mac users can be pushy sometimes but its not like a disease you get when get a mac, haha.

[GommeInc]

meh, i have a mac and i love it but im not married to it. mac users can be pushy sometimes but its not like a disease you get when get a mac, haha.
Meh, maybe some people are just immune, hey? :P

[Monopoly]

Meh, maybe some people are just immune, hey? :P

Maybe everyone else just needs to feel accepted by someone. ;p

[HotelUser]

LOL
You really don't know what we're talking about, do you:rolleyes:?


Let's base a decision on an obsolete word processor. You'll most likely be using Microsoft Office anyway.
Since you're not me you don't know what word processor I will use.

TextEdit is better than WordPad.

OSX has its own office suite created by Apple. Many OSX users use that as opposed to MSOffice.

And so, saying I will use Microsoft Office on my Mac is certainly not a fair statement.



Before making an impulsive move based on a Mac's justification for buying the overpriced "quality" hardware. Consider this, you may run Windows on a Mac
You don't know what you're getting into if you think software isn't just as important as hardware.

and Mac on Windows.
Illegally. Plus, you would lose some of the stabillity. You know, the stuff you LOLd at.


So unless you're willing to pay the extra 2xxxAUD for the lulz, get Windows, or atleast Linux.
I would choose Linux over Windows on my main setup personally.

For future reference, I find that insulting something goes better when you've actually used whatever you're insulting. Based on what you've said I don't think you've ever owned an Apple computer.

Being opposed to something you don't know much about is not good ;).

[Sameer!]

WINDOWS FTW! But Mac is great looking!

[GommeInc]

Maybe everyone else just needs to feel accepted by someone. ;p
Macs don't cuddle up to you when you sleep! But the money you spent on a Mac could be used to buy that sort of love ;)

I don't see the problem with trying out the OS by installing it on any PC, if you like the general zest of it, then you can get the proper version. It's like having a test drive, you don't experience everything in that short amount of time, just the basics.

[HotelUser]

WINDOWS FTW! But Mac is great looking!

It's more than a pretty face;)

[Recursion]

Macs don't cuddle up to you when you sleep! But the money you spent on a Mac could be used to buy that sort of love ;)

I don't see the problem with trying out the OS by installing it on any PC, if you like the general zest of it, then you can get the proper version. It's like having a test drive, you don't experience everything in that short amount of time, just the basics.

You cheap git! I paid for cuddle will never be the same as a real cuddle! :P

[GommeInc]

You cheap git! I paid for cuddle will never be the same as a real cuddle! :P
Obviously you've not paid enough for the best quality cuddle ;)

[Recursion]

I just realized the bad typo that totally changed my sentence there.

[xxMATTGxx]

Both, no doubt about it :)

[Lelouch]

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