Need some help what program

[VistaBoy]

Hello all,

Okay i would like to know what program do you think are good for the following.

1) what localhost software (apache, php, mysql, phpmyadmin etc)

2) What program you code in like in php,html,css.

3) What other cool programs are out there that are cool to install on a mac?

[Barmi]

Hello all,

Okay i would like to know what program do you think are good for the following.

1) what localhost software (apache, php, mysql, phpmyadmin etc)

2) What program you code in like in php,html,css.

3) What other cool programs are out there that are cool to install on a mac?
In answer to question 2...

TextMate (powerful text editor)
CSSEdit (great alongside TextMate; my favourite for editing CSS)
Coda (very useful all-in one)
Smultron (free text editor)


In answer to question 3...

Adium
Cyberduck
Flip4Mac
HandBrake (!!)
iWork '09 or Microsoft Office 2008
OnyX
Quicksilver
Skitch
Skype
Spotify
Transmission
VLC

[RichardKnox]

Agreed with Barmi on point 3, coda is the only good choice IMO for question 2. And for localhost you can either use the built in LAMP setup (I personally don't like) or use XAMPP (my preferred choice).

[Sameer!]

1) EasyPHP 3.0, wampserver 2, XAMPP.

2) Notepad++, Adobe Dreamweaver CS4, Notepad2 (dont really recommend notepad2)

There you go!

[Tomm]

This is the mac forum and the OP is asking for software to use with his Mac so why are you recommending him programs that run on Windows exclusivly?


1) EasyPHP 3.0, wampserver 2, XAMPP.

2) Notepad++, Adobe Dreamweaver CS4, Notepad2 (dont really recommend notepad2)

There you go!

[Dentafrice]

This is the mac forum and the OP is asking for software to use with his Mac so why are you recommending him programs that run on Windows exclusivly?
I was just about to ask that too.

He doesn't read.

[Barmi]

coda is the only good choice IMO for question 2. .
And why is that? What is wrong with the others I suggested, or Dreamweaver? TextMate & CSSEdit together are far more useful for designing than Coda alone. Coda is nice for maintenance, but the capabilities of CSSEdit are (IMO) unparalleled.

[Dentafrice]

I still agree. Coda is far more superior then your other choices just due to the sheer fact of all the features it has together.

I hate TextMate, it drives me crazy.

Dreamweaver is sucky to code PHP in, same with TextMate.

[HotelUser]

In answer to question 2...

TextMate (powerful text editor)
CSSEdit (great alongside TextMate; my favourite for editing CSS)
Coda (very useful all-in one)
Smultron (free text editor)


In answer to question 3...

Adium
Cyberduck
Flip4Mac
HandBrake (!!)
iWork '09 or Microsoft Office 2008
OnyX
Quicksilver
Skitch
Skype
Spotify
Transmission
VLC


You can't forget QuickSilver;)!


I still agree. Coda is far more superior then your other choices just due to the sheer fact of all the features it has together.

I hate TextMate, it drives me crazy.

Dreamweaver is sucky to code PHP in, same with TextMate.

Textmate is more a WYSIWYG editor, than a PHP editor, you're right.

Coda is pretty good, though sometimes I still use Notepad++ with Darwine.

[Barmi]

I still agree. Coda is far more superior then your other choices just due to the sheer fact of all the features it has together.

I hate TextMate, it drives me crazy.

Dreamweaver is sucky to code PHP in, same with TextMate.
I have no issue with having three programs open at once (TextMate, CSSEdit and Cyberduck) to achieve my desired result. Coda drives me crazy when editing CSS; nothing quite matches CSSEdit for design purposes. Coda has a number of features bundled together, but with little sacrifices.

You can't forget QuickSilver;)!



Textmate is more a WYSIWYG editor, than a PHP editor, you're right.

Coda is pretty good, though sometimes I still use Notepad++ with Darwine.
Quicksilver is wonderful! :)

What do you mean re TextMate though? It is not a WYSIWYG editor... it's a pure (but powerful) text editor.

[HotelUser]

I have no issue with having three programs open at once (TextMate, CSSEdit and Cyberduck) to achieve my desired result. Coda drives me crazy when editing CSS; nothing quite matches CSSEdit for design purposes. Coda has a number of features bundled together, but with little sacrifices.

Quicksilver is wonderful! :)

What do you mean re TextMate though? It is not a WYSIWYG editor... it's a pure (but powerful) text editor.

It is a WYSIWYG editor because what we see in text edit is what we get. I mean that, yes it is very useful, but something like Coda, where you upload as you save, or with variable find and replace is more useful for coding.

[Dentafrice]

I have no issue with having three programs open at once (TextMate, CSSEdit and Cyberduck) to achieve my desired result. Coda drives me crazy when editing CSS; nothing quite matches CSSEdit for design purposes. Coda has a number of features bundled together, but with little sacrifices.

Quicksilver is wonderful! :)

What do you mean re TextMate though? It is not a WYSIWYG editor... it's a pure (but powerful) text editor.
That's your opinion though. If you want thousands and tons of little features to do it for you, that's not really a developer, that's a button pusher.

Of course you can make things easier, but not to where you don't even understand it anymore and can do it on your own.

[Barmi]

It is a WYSIWYG editor because what we see in text edit is what we get. I mean that, yes it is very useful, but something like Coda, where you upload as you save, or with variable find and replace is more useful for coding.
I'd just be careful when using 'WYSIWYG' to describe TextMate, that's all. I accept what you are saying, but I don't think WYSIWYG is exactly what you are looking for to describe it.

That's your opinion though. If you want thousands and tons of little features to do it for you, that's not really a developer, that's a button pusher.

Of course you can make things easier, but not to where you don't even understand it anymore and can do it on your own.
No, I don't like button pushing. I like the real-time update from CSSEdit – useful for web design. (Oh, and groups keep styles and mind very tidy!) Admittedly it depends on focus. Coda is useful for maintaining or developing... TextMate & CSSEdit are more useful for initial development or design. Designing in Coda... well, I find workflow stifled.

There is no denying that Coda is a great program. But so are TextMate and CSSEdit... and Smultron for a free option. Espresso will garner a brief look when that is released (from the makers of CSSEdit). The bottom line, I guess, is whatever works best for the individual. I would suggest the OP makes his own mind up, but ideally using Coda to begin with.

[Johno]

1) I use MAMP, and it does the job well :)
2) I would say Coda, pretty much the best.
3) QuickSilver, Adium, VLC, Transmission - To name a few!

[VistaBoy]

Thank you guys one more what svn client program is there out there that is free and good?

[Dentafrice]

Coda has SVN built in :)

[HotelUser]

Coda has SVN built in :)

http://ciaranwal.sh/2007/10/10/svn-plug-in-for-textmate

I doubt it's perfect, but it's better than nothing:D.

[Dentafrice]

http://ciaranwal.sh/2007/10/10/svn-plug-in-for-textmate

I doubt it's perfect, but it's better than nothing:D.
Why'd you reply to me? :s

[HotelUser]

Why'd you reply to me? :s

That's the point of a forum system. It wouldn't be much if you couldn't reply to people;).

[Dentafrice]

That's the point of a forum system. It wouldn't be much if you couldn't reply to people;).
Yeah but why was it directed at me? I didn't ask for it.. and don't need it..

[HotelUser]

Yeah but why was it directed at me? I didn't ask for it.. and don't need it..

It wasn't directed at you. It was relevant to what you said.