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no waiii
06-04-2009, 08:49 PM
omg pirates are you serious lol?

Somali pirates have seized ships from France, Britain, Germany, Taiwan and Yemen, defying world naval powers by prowling further out in the Indian Ocean to target victims.

Ransom-hunting pirates equipped with skiffs, guns and grapnels took five ships in 48 hours, the latest two on Monday a British cargo ship and Taiwanese fishing vessel.

At least 17 ships and more than 250 hostages are now in pirate hands.

"There were two more hijackings today. There is one Italian-operated British-owned ship and a Taiwanese vessel near the Seychelles," an official involved in regional piracy monitoring told AFP on condition of anonymity.

The Seychelles government said it received a distress call saying a Taiwanese fishing vessel, the MV Winfar 161, and its 29 crew was hijacked in its exclusive economic zone, north of Denis island.

Transport Minister Joel Morgan said military forces had been deployed to intercept the pirates, amid reports that three more Taiwanese ships were trying to escape capture.

The information centre of the European Union's anti-piracy naval mission Atalanta confirmed Monday's second hijacking.

"A 32,000 tonne UK-owned and Italian-operated bulk carrier was hijacked early this morning in the Gulf of Aden. Few details are known at this stage, but the mixed nationality crew are believed to be safe," it said.

Ecoterra International, an environment group monitoring illegal marine activities in the region, reported that a small French yacht was captured on Saturday about 640km off Ras Hafun in northeast Somalia and was heading towards Somali Puntland.

The French foreign ministry said it was checking the report but Ecoterra said brief satellite phone contact was made with the vessel on Sunday.

"Local marine observers stated the attack was reportedly launched from a captured Yemeni fishing vessel" in the Indian Ocean, Ecoterra said.

A French official in Paris said the hostages were two couples and a small child.

Hundreds of ransom-hunting Somali pirates have hijacked dozens of ships over the past year, mostly merchant vessels plying one of the world's busiest maritime trade routes.

They operate from skiffs towed by pirate "mother ships", which are often hijacked fishing vessels. Last year, their haul included a Ukrainian cargo loaded with combat tanks and a Saudi supertanker.

More than 130 attacks, including close to 50 successful hijackings, were reported in 2008, threatening the vital shipping lane and spurring the international community into joint naval action.

On Sunday, a Kenya-based maritime official confirmed pirates had also seized a German container vessel.

The ship was taken on Saturday about 400 nautical miles from the Somali coast, between Kenya and the Seychelles, said Andrew Mwangura, of the East African Seafarers Assistance Program.

Ecoterra also reported an Indian cargo ship, the Shehenshah-e-Medina, and its 18 crew were recently released by Somali pirates after being held for close to a week.

The group's statement quoted Ahmed Bhaya, secretary of the Salaya Vessel Owners Association, as saying the ship, which was not carrying any cargo, was hijacked on March 30.

It said pirates captured a Yemeni tugboat, the Al-Ghaith, and its seven crew on Sunday.

The number of attacks had dipped since the start of the year, owing to an increased international naval presence in the Gulf of Aden and unfavourable seas.

But some pirate groups have ventured far into the Indian Ocean, southeast of Somalia, to target ships further out at sea, away from heavily patrolled shipping corridors.

Corporal
06-04-2009, 08:56 PM
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Somalia/

no waiii
06-04-2009, 10:24 PM
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Somalia/

LOL at that

PaulMacC
06-04-2009, 10:36 PM
It's all Monkey D Luffy I tell ya'!
I didnt know pirates still are about.

no waiii
06-04-2009, 10:40 PM
Yer lol, but what i wanna know is they have little crap boats and the manage to take over 32,000 crago tone ships, like how dose that happen they dont even compare in size its unreal lol

xxMATTGxx
06-04-2009, 10:53 PM
Countries need to send more navy support to that region to try and stop this. But I don't know what to say and most companies just want to pay them off.

no waiii
06-04-2009, 11:03 PM
Countries need to send more navy support to that region to try and stop this. But I don't know what to say and most companies just want to pay them off.

It said in the story that they did that, but the just moved to the indian ocean or somwere that was not as heavly partrolled

Jordy
06-04-2009, 11:13 PM
Yer lol, but what i wanna know is they have little crap boats and the manage to take over 32,000 crago tone ships, like how dose that happen they dont even compare in size its unreal lolNot really, the small boats are far more manoeuvrable and faster. They've got guns and the big boats have absolutely nothing, just a vulnerable crew which can't do anything.

I really have no sympathy for these boats being seized, they're just greedy companies which gamble their ships and staff because they don't want to pay for any security, a security guard or any weapons on-board. As a result of this they're wasting the Navy's time and money.

btw that Weebl link is hilarious, based on the 'Kenya' song which was also awesome :P

Oleh
09-04-2009, 10:37 PM
i think every cargo boat should have a heavily trained security team tbh

Laggings
09-04-2009, 11:07 PM
United States will bomb them out of the water. We are teh 1336 1/2.

Jordy
10-04-2009, 12:57 AM
United States will bomb them out of the water. We are teh 1336 1/2.United States can't do anything, unless they're attacked they can't engage into conflict with them, or at least if they're abiding international law they shouldn't.

The British Navy demonstrated this earlier in the year, Somalia Pirates shot at the Navy first and the Navy just mowed them all down with machine guns haha.

Fair play to the Somalia Pirates, they haven't harmed anyone yet (Other than the above but they only shot the Navy, they didn't injure) in any of their captures, they've followed the guidelines (Geneva Convention I think?) on keeping hostages and been completely humane the whole time. They've simply limited the freedom of the crew but allowed them to do whatever they want on the boat other than leave.

Laggings
10-04-2009, 02:15 AM
I don't know if they've let them do what they want.... That sounds a little too nice for pirates.

Jordulti
10-04-2009, 02:30 AM
My TECH teacher, spent a whole 75 minute block talking about this... -.-

Wouter
10-04-2009, 10:31 AM
Nothing much people can do as stated about Geneva. If they start making threats and demanding ransoms. Then we can act.

Jordy
10-04-2009, 11:46 AM
I don't know if they've let them do what they want.... That sounds a little too nice for pirates.The hostages on the boat are free to walk around the boat, talk to each other, sleep in their usual beds and go about their daily ship duties, they just can't leave the boat.

Hitman
10-04-2009, 04:04 PM
Should just get some snipers, head shot the guys who have the American Captain and voila, problem solved. It'd free the Captain and show the pirates that they'll be killed, not given millions of pounds if they capture boats.

Corporal
10-04-2009, 05:35 PM
Should just get some snipers, head shot the guys who have the American Captain and voila, problem solved. It'd free the Captain and show the pirates that they'll be killed, not given millions of pounds if they capture boats.
Thats called murder

Jordy
10-04-2009, 06:12 PM
Thats called murderIt's also called Call of Duty :P

If we start killing them then who's to say they won't start doing the same to us.

Hitman
10-04-2009, 06:13 PM
Thats called murder
Well done. I do know what it's called and I'm sure most people do, what's your point? That's it's immoral? It's immoral to hijack a ship and take people hostage, endangering their lives.

Jordy
10-04-2009, 06:16 PM
Well done. I do know what it's called and I'm sure most people do, what's your point? That's it's immoral? It's immoral to hijack a ship and take people hostage, endangering their lives.How are their lives endangered?

Hitman
10-04-2009, 06:17 PM
How are their lives endangered?
These pirates have guns, some are very desperate for money. Who knows what they'll do? They have nothing to lose, but the hostage does. They might decided to kill the hostage if they're fed up of waiting for a ransom. It was on the BBC, some French hostages (in that region) were freed when the French intervened, but one hostage died - the pirate(s) most probably shot him/her.

Jordy
10-04-2009, 06:48 PM
These pirates have guns, some are very desperate for money. Who knows what they'll do? They have nothing to lose, but the hostage does. They might decided to kill the hostage if they're fed up of waiting for a ransom. It was on the BBC, some French hostages (in that region) were freed when the French intervened, but one hostage died - the pirate(s) most probably shot him/her.From what I can gather the French began the killing, before then they hadn't killed anyone?

I have no sympathy for anyone going in the region, it's so selfish of the French peoples families to ignore warnings from their government and take a small child with them as well. As a result there's been a rescue mission and troops have had to put their lives at risk to rescue them. Selfish *****.

Corporal
10-04-2009, 06:55 PM
Well done. I do know what it's called and I'm sure most people do, what's your point? That's it's immoral? It's immoral to hijack a ship and take people hostage, endangering their lives.

So if we start being immoral arent we just like them? Pot kettle Black.

Hitman
10-04-2009, 07:57 PM
From what I can gather the French began the killing, before then they hadn't killed anyone?

I have no sympathy for anyone going in the region, it's so selfish of the French peoples families to ignore warnings from their government and take a small child with them as well. As a result there's been a rescue mission and troops have had to put their lives at risk to rescue them. Selfish *****.I don't know the whole entire story, I skimmed, but the French either attacked first or tried to rescue them and got attacked.

I agree, it is selfish of them to go there. I agree with the big company boats going but it is their own fault for going. The thing I don't agree with is that negotiations are taking place... a month or so ago some pirates received cash dropped from a plane, there was a few million... this is just going to encourage hijackings. I mean, these pirates, they are probably extremely poor and don't have anything to live for - so if they die trying to get rich then they'll do it. If more aggressive action was taken, such as hits on these pirates, or even simple high pressured water cannons, then it'd send the message to other pirates that hijacking boats wont get you rich. If one gets rich from it, another will try.


So if we start being immoral arent we just like them? Pot kettle Black.
If we're doing it to get back hostages then no. Also, different things are immoral to different people.

Suspective
11-04-2009, 07:36 AM
So if we start being immoral arent we just like them? Pot kettle Black.

Nope, its basically a countries dutie to save its people. If were trying to protect a innoccent civilian then its fine in my opinion.

sock
11-04-2009, 09:42 AM
how gutted would they be if they got freed after a year of hostage then got caught by another set of pirates or do they get set free on land?

Jordy
11-04-2009, 10:39 AM
Nope, its basically a countries dutie to save its people. If were trying to protect a innoccent civilian then its fine in my opinion.Not when they're outside the country, embassies do their best but there's only so far they can go. If I was arrested for something I didn't do in Thailand and sentenced to life in prison, the SAS wouldn't do a rescue operation to save me.


how gutted would they be if they got freed after a year of hostage then got caught by another set of pirates or do they get set free on land?Might well of happened but I doubt it. They're set free on their boat, the pirates simply leave and that's it.

Hitman
11-04-2009, 12:48 PM
Not when they're outside the country, embassies do their best but there's only so far they can go. If I was arrested for something I didn't do in Thailand and sentenced to life in prison, the SAS wouldn't do a rescue operation to save me.

That's totally different, because you were arrested by the law enforcement/government in Thailand, you weren't kidnapped/taken hostage by terrorists or pirates. Your future would be decided by the government, or you'd get deported to the UK for a trial, but with the pirates and hostages it's totally different - the government of that region or the hostages country must get them back, either by negotiating with the pirates or by attacking the pirates.

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