Which Is "Worse" ~ Incest or Gay Marriage?

[,Lexiilu]

Sorry, didn't know where to put this because I didn't want to get yelled at so I put it here :D

Well I saw a thread about incest marriage earlier so I looked into it.
Both are illegal in most of the U.S.A.

So, which one do you think is worse? Please don't bully others on opinions (respect each others thoughts!)

Thanks.

[Wootzeh]

Well Gay marriage is allowed in uk, so incest.
they're both pretty *Removed* up imo!!

*TIN HAT ON*
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[Jordan:A]

Umm lol
Whats Incest ?

[Scouse]

Umm lol
Whats Incest ?

sleeping with a member of your family

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'm against both, but definetly incest.

[Jordan:A]

Incest has got to be the worse, gays i dont mind, they dont harm me and at least there not going with there family, but going with your own family is just sick

[VelvetClover]

Incest has got to be worse.

[Danzilla]

Got nothing against gay marriage, they can't help it if they are attracted to the same sex. Better then marrying a girl who you dont even love or find attractive. So incest, its just wrong.

[Immenseman]

erm, incest for sure.

[FlyingJesus]

Got nothing against gay marriage, they can't help it if they are attracted to the same sex. Better then marrying a girl who you dont even love or find attractive. So incest, its just wrong.

What if someone's attracted to their brother/sister/mum/dad/whatever? They can't "help" that either so you should be for it going by your logic

[Sly]

I like them both

[RedStratocas]

incest for sure lol. gay people dont cause problems by doin what they do. incest is illegal cause kids dont come out quite right when you do that. so its kinda a societal issue more than anything.

but since being gay and doing gay things has no effect on the quality of life for others, i dont see why anyone should have a problem with it. homosexuals should have the right to get married and be miserable like the rest of us.

[Kipp]

I don't mine gay people, so I would actually say that Incest is worse.

[LoveToStack]

What if someone's attracted to their brother/sister/mum/dad/whatever? They can't "help" that either so you should be for it going by your logic

I agree with that statement. If you're accepting that Gay marriage is ok because they are in love; love concurs all type scenario then you should really accept incest in the same way. Assuming they are actually in love.

[Jordy]

What if someone's attracted to their brother/sister/mum/dad/whatever? They can't "help" that either so you should be for it going by your logicI hope you're not talking from experience.

Marriage is just a thing made by humans, it's simply a status so it doesn't do any harm. You could say being gay is unnatural but there's no conclusive evidence and that's an entirely different debate.

Incest clearly conflicts with nature, this is clear with the outcome of the child.

[GommeInc]

Incest. Gay marriage, by definition alone, doesn't really exist anyway. It's why it is labelled civil partnerships. I'm amazed the US is still living in the stone age with their views on, well, most things. Homosexuals cause no problems. Incest however seems morally wrong and conflicts with so many unwritten and written laws of nature.

[dogboy123]

Incest imo

Just doesnt seem right

[Dada]

Incest. Definatively. I dont get what people have against gays -.-

[Favourtism]

Got nothing against gay marriage, they can't help it if they are attracted to the same sex. Better then marrying a girl who you dont even love or find attractive. So incest, its just wrong.
If they cant help liking the same sex what if they cant help liking family? Imo its just as wrong as gay marriage (I dont have a problem with homosexuals, it's just I disagree with it


I hope you're not talking from experience.

Marriage is just a thing made by humans, it's simply a status so it doesn't do any harm. You could say being gay is unnatural but there's no conclusive evidence and that's an entirely different debate.

Incest clearly conflicts with nature, this is clear with the outcome of the child.
Naturally and historically, men have sex with women. That's un-natural too

[Andeeh]

incest its pretty weird.

[paul4wolves]

Well, I don't like Insest and I don't like Gay marriage, but which is worse; theres only one way to find out. FIGHT!!!

[Jordy]

If they cant help liking the same sex what if they cant help liking family? Imo its just as wrong as gay marriage (I dont have a problem with homosexuals, it's just I disagree with it


Naturally and historically, men have sex with women. That's un-natural tooHistory has nothing to do with it but I don't see your point? It's natural for men to have sex with women (Or vice versa :P) for the human race to survive, you could say that's our only objective on Earth, survive.

Although incest does involve sex between men and women, it is still not natural as it simply does not work. The outcomes of incest are malformed children with many disabilities.

Marriage is just a status, it doesn't harm anyone. Incest is going against nature and therefore has bad results.

[Dan2nd]

I'd say incest is worse however like others have said you can't use the arguement 'well gay marriage is ok because it's not their fault they love each other' as the same could be said about incest... The Queen is technically married to her third cousin so I guess that could be seen as sorta incest :P

[Clowgons]

Lol i was watching Maury the over day and this couple who had been married for 9 years and had two kids found out there were brother and sisters after a DNA test proved there were related.

Anyway incest is got to be worse. With gay marriage erm, i don't see anything with marrying the same sex, slightly weird though.

[Sixiz]

No Questios Asked incest for sure

[FlyingJesus]

incest for sure lol. gay people dont cause problems by doin what they do. incest is illegal cause kids dont come out quite right when you do that. so its kinda a societal issue more than anything.

but since being gay and doing gay things has no effect on the quality of life for others, i dont see why anyone should have a problem with it. homosexuals should have the right to get married and be miserable like the rest of us.

The chances of 1st generation incest (ie: a brother and sister having kids) causing disabilities is exactly the same as any other coupling, 2nd generation incest (ie: a brother and sister have a son and daughter, the son and daughter then have kids) is only as dangerous as a woman in her 40s having a child and then it obviously deteriorates to more dangerous degrees from there, but I don't expect many people have traditions of breeding children for breeding for breeding for breeding etc, it would usually be a one-off thing.


I hope you're not talking from experience.

Marriage is just a thing made by humans, it's simply a status so it doesn't do any harm. You could say being gay is unnatural but there's no conclusive evidence and that's an entirely different debate.

Incest clearly conflicts with nature, this is clear with the outcome of the child.

No I'm not talking from experience lol but not quite sure what you mean by there being no evidence that gay marriage is not natural - as you said yourself, marriage was made by humans, and was intended as a bond between a man and a woman. There's a big difference between the gay marriage debate and the general homosexuality debate. Also again, the children are generally not affected.


Incest. Gay marriage, by definition alone, doesn't really exist anyway. It's why it is labelled civil partnerships. I'm amazed the US is still living in the stone age with their views on, well, most things. Homosexuals cause no problems. Incest however seems morally wrong and conflicts with so many unwritten and written laws of nature.

Both homosexuality and incest were initially downtrodden by the rise of the church as a major European (and then world) power, it's just that only one has made a comeback. In the old days everyone was at it with everyone, whether male female related or not, it's a purely social thing that stops it in modern times.


Well, I don't like Insest and I don't like Gay marriage, but which is worse; theres only one way to find out. FIGHT!!!

Good plan


History has nothing to do with it but I don't see your point? It's natural for men to have sex with women (Or vice versa :P) for the human race to survive, you could say that's our only objective on Earth, survive.

Although incest does involve sex between men and women, it is still not natural as it simply does not work. The outcomes of incest are malformed children with many disabilities.

Marriage is just a status, it doesn't harm anyone. Incest is going against nature and therefore has bad results.

Still wrong

[drama]

incest is obviously worse, how can you even group those two together? =/

[jackass]

Obviously the majority of people are going to say incest is worse, and I agree.

As much as i'm against incest, the only reason people are extremely against it is because it's illegal and for that reason, it almost never happens. Obviously to us it seems disgusting, but if it was allowed in the first place, probably lots of people would be doing it.

It's only illegal because the offspring can be deformed and have serious health problems.

[carys198]

Sorry if anyone has actually had Incest, or wants Incest or W/E but I find it completely wrong! Even if you're single you can't be that desperate to go out with Cousin Al. Or Brother Jake?

Gay marriage however, it's fine, I believe humans were created to reproduce and be attracted to the opposite sex, if some people disagree, they can't help it.. It's what 'Turns them on' so I'm fine with it. I suppose I don't know what it's like to be gay so I can't say much, but Incest is kinda wrong unless it's desperate like the population is in grave danger of extinction or there's family sob story and you can't have children and you need a sperm donor or something but then, you don't NEED to have sex for children, you can have that thing where they mix it up for you right?

[MJJ]

I don't see anything wrong with gay marriage, so I'd say incest is worse, like most people.

[RyanDOT]

Incest is far worst.

[LoveToStack]

Lol i was watching Maury the over day and this couple who had been married for 9 years and had two kids found out there were brother and sisters after a DNA test proved there were related.

In a case like that I don't see anything wrong morally. The fact that they were raised independantly and fell in love as if they weren't siblings outwieghs the fact that they are related, putting all health issues aside.

[Marucho]

Nothings wrong with gay marriage.

[Bun]

hard one. obviously most people are going to be like errr incest it's much more minging than gay marriage but in asian countries it's not rare for cousins to marry each other to keep wealth in the family.

[camera]

incest

[CJW93]

Both are ****** up. But Incest is the worst

[jackass]

How about gay incest?

[RedStratocas]

The chances of 1st generation incest (ie: a brother and sister having kids) causing disabilities is exactly the same as any other coupling, 2nd generation incest (ie: a brother and sister have a son and daughter, the son and daughter then have kids) is only as dangerous as a woman in her 40s having a child and then it obviously deteriorates to more dangerous degrees from there, but I don't expect many people have traditions of breeding children for breeding for breeding for breeding etc, it would usually be a one-off thing.

not necessarily. i wish i could find a link about this family i learned about in a class i had a few years ago, ive been googling but its hard to know what to search. anyway, theres basically a big family with their own church that believes they are the direct decedents of jesus christ, thus require that they interbred to preserve their blood. theres a lot of "one-off things" in the world probably, but im sure that a good portion of incest in the world is family or religion based.

while i might be jumping the gun here, if you're willing to practice incest, it is most definitely due to your conditioning or you have a mental illness. i cant really imagine a mentally stable man growing up in a normal home, going to school and gaining friends, then settling down and starting a family with his sister. if youre going to bang your sister, there's probably a disturbance in that story. on the other hand, it's fair to say that homosexuals come from all over the spectrum. you can grow up with a father who believes the bible word for word and a mother who doesnt know what the internet is and become a flaming homosexual. it happens.

the frustrating thing about this debate is that we don't really fully understand the nature of incest or homosexuality. we dont really know if either decisions are a choice or genetics or conditioning or exactly what, so it's difficult to argue peoples' logic and mindset.

[Danzilla]

What if someone's attracted to their brother/sister/mum/dad/whatever? They can't "help" that either so you should be for it going by your logic

Good point, didn't see it like that but still think incest is just way wrong

[Tooplee]

Are you being serious lol? Incest is obviously worse!

[no waiii]

gay marrage



joke obv, incest

[drama]

How about gay incest?
Haha I was gunna say that, gay incestial civil partnerships hell yeah

[Dragkid]

It's pretty unfair to say that gay marriage is wrong. Definitely not unfair to say incest is wrong. So i would go for incest.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I am against gay marriage because I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, but being gay is one hundred percent normal and I accept that but what I don't accept is incest.

[Sly]

I have a sneeky suspicion about my friend krishna, that she is into incest and i don't mind one bit.

[Jord]

Incest is wrost :S Its family jesus

[Sly]

we r all family in da eyes of god newai

[Catchy]

Incest.

[drama]

Incest.
you're gay

[Loser]

What kind of sick thread is this!? How can these even be compared?

[Bun]

it should also be pointed out that the question should be that what is worse, incest or gay sex? or even marrying a family member or gay marriage.

[SoraUS]

What a ridiculous question, that's like asking "what's worse: being a pedo or being anorexic?" Of course being gay is wrong. The Bible says so.

[Caution]

Incest is obviously wrong as it can cause genetic deformities, I sort of agree with the quote below for gay marriage though.
I am against gay marriage because I believe marriage is between a man and a woman,


What a ridiculous question, that's like asking "what's worse: being a pedo or being anorexic?" Of course being gay is wrong. The Bible says so.
That shows how flawed your argument is, you're using the bible to back it up.:eusa_wall

[drama]

What a ridiculous question, that's like asking "what's worse: being a pedo or being anorexic?" Of course being gay is wrong. The Bible says so.
haha oh god so if it's a ridiculous question then you advocate incest


...6/10

[Special]

incest

[Special]

What a ridiculous question, that's like asking "what's worse: being a pedo or being anorexic?" Of course being gay is wrong. The Bible says so.

where plz

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[carys198]

What a ridiculous question, that's like asking "what's worse: being a pedo or being anorexic?" Of course being gay is wrong. The Bible says so.


Not everyone is christian.


Ahmagad! A book tells me not to love Darren! Nooooooooooooooo! Darren don't go! *cries*

OMG! Another book is telling me to not buy a TV! My life is ruined, I can never be modern, nor be happy.. Why do books hate me so much?

Sorry, I know that's a bit over-rated. But as an athiest that's my opinion. If I were a christian, I would probably think different, athiest and christian are different. Different opinions and different thoughts.

[Urnuph]

incest is worst imo. i don't mind being around a gay, i'd hate being around somebody who was into incest though. gay marriage is accepted in the uk, as its legal, incest isn't.

[Tim.]

Gay marriage followed by incest.

[FlyingJesus]

Just so people know, both incest and homosexuality are considered sinful in the Bible, but that isn't the debate here

[Nixt]

Erm, incest. For sure. But I am biased :P.

[Crimson]

Neither, unless incestuous people have children as it makes the babies ******ed or mutated... So actually, tbh - incest is more wrong

[J0SH]

They're both pretty hot.

[FlyingJesus]

Neither, unless incestuous people have children as it makes the babies ******ed or mutated... So actually, tbh - incest is more wrong

No it doesn't - reading a thread before posting in it is a fabulous idea

[Inseriousity.]

incest is illegal cause kids dont come out quite right when you do that.

evidence? A lot of people have said it but that sounds pretty farfetched to me (you were the first person to say it so I quoted you, nothing personal!). Personally, it depends on how the lover is related, regarding incest. It's legal to marry your 2nd cousin but I think a brother/sister having a relationship is a bit too far.

As for gay marriage, I don't tend to have a problem with that. I'm confused why people are saying 'gays are alright because they don't affect me.' You wouldn't know that the people in the relationship were related so how would it affect you?

[iDenning]

I dont see anything wrong with incest lol. You cant help who you love and there shouldnt be rules against it. Eventhough, its wrong. But i dont see it as 'sick'

[Kyle.tk]

How can these two things be compared? Two completely different acts.

And to the buffon who said this-
'The outcomes of incest are malformed children with many disabilities.'

These type of children are more likely due to the gene pool, but notdefinate. And couples who arn't from the same family have been known to have malformed children? Think before you post.

[drama]

evidence? A lot of people have said it but that sounds pretty farfetched to me (you were the first person to say it so I quoted you, nothing personal!). Personally, it depends on how the lover is related, regarding incest. It's legal to marry your 2nd cousin but I think a brother/sister having a relationship is a bit too far.

As for gay marriage, I don't tend to have a problem with that. I'm confused why people are saying 'gays are alright because they don't affect me.' You wouldn't know that the people in the relationship were related so how would it affect you?
first generation incest doesn't cause deformaties, but if it's third/fourth generation incest then there are birth defects, just google it :)

[lew!]

I dont have a problem with gay marrige, I think its fine like normal marrige as its showing your love towards another person just the same as a normal relationship and marrige.

however i dont like incest!

[Sammeth.]

Both are sick and disgusting, my boyfriend agrees. Ewwww.

[FlyingJesus]

Both are sick and disgusting, my brother agrees. Ewwww.

Wicked

[Swearwolf]

http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=incest&word2=gay+marriage

[RedStratocas]

neither are as bad as inter-species.


http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=incest&word2=gay+marriage

hahaha gay marriage has more results, but what does that mean?

[BlueRaven]

The Queen is technically married to her third cousin so I guess that could be seen as sorta incest :P


The outcomes of incest are malformed children with many disabilities.


evidence? A lot of people have said it but that sounds pretty farfetched to me (you were the first person to say it so I quoted you, nothing personal!). Personally, it depends on how the lover is related, regarding incest. It's legal to marry your 2nd cousin but I think a brother/sister having a relationship is a bit too far.




And to the buffon who said this-
'The outcomes of incest are malformed children with many disabilities.'


Just 2 words to Inseriousity and Kyle.tk they are...

Prince Charles. (Sorry just had to make that joke with my first quote :D)



But yes, I'd agree Incest is the worst and it doesn't ONLY cause deformation and disabilities... It plays with the mind too and triggers the negative aspects. Not that its ALWAYS gonna happen but it happens jusst a little higher than your normal ratio of disabled kids born.

[Oleh]

well incest is somewhat worse, being that if its your mum/dad/grandmother/grandad then theres a problem due to them concieving/helping to concieve you, if its your brother/sister its still worse because you was concieved in the same way, if its a distant cousin then i agree with it not being incest, example - i fell in love with my mums mums cousin's daughter, then i would agree with it being normal but not example - falling in love with my mums sisters daughter, that is too close to home if you get me

[leah]

incest ofcourse

[TheEclipse]

Incest. As it's dangerous for any resulting children, biologically. Plus it often involves emotional and mental abuse.

[Angel-Charlene]

Lol you guys are talking like if gays are aliens!?!

What's honestly wrong with the same sex wanting to be together etc.? Let gay people life happily ever after.

We are human beings, each and everyone of us learn to love another.
Is gays seriously making war, killing people? No.

Incest is wrong.

[Hecktix]

I actually can't believe how many people on this forum are classing civil partnerships equally as wrong as incest. There is nothing different within a homosexual relationship than a heterosexual relationship apart from sex.

Then again as it's been said you can't help who you fall in love with.
However, I do know that some people 'coming out' as homosexual can cause trouble within their family, however can you imagine two siblings who had been engaging in intercourse turning to their parents and being like "Mum, Dad, we're in love, we're sleeping together" that's gonna cause more trouble.

Incest is illegal for biological reasons.

However I'm not going to say which is 'worse' as there is nothing wrong with gay marriage, so quite frankly you could be comparing incest to heterosexual marriage. The two things in comparison are incompatible.

[FlyingJesus]

Lol you guys are talking like if gays are aliens!?!

What's honestly wrong with the same sex wanting to be together etc.? Let gay people life happily ever after.

We are human beings, each and everyone of us learn to love another.
Is gays seriously making war, killing people? No.

Incest is wrong.

I don't know of any wars started over a disagreement with a incestual couple either, you've given no real evidence as to why you believe what you believe. "It's just wrong" is as discriminatory a phrase to use against incestites as it is against homosexual or interracial couples

[le harry]

i'm into both so atm undecided.

[Richie]

Incest, i think gay marriage should be aloud, whats the difference between gay marriage and normal marriage, the only difference is the thing dangling between there legs

[[DC]eption]

Gay marriage however, it's fine, I believe humans were created to reproduce

Gays cant reproduce ;) ha!

Incest anyways hands down, dont really have a problem with gay marriage as long as there is no adopting of kids going on

[RandomManJay]

Got nothing against gay marriage. But incest can cause many genetic problems which is mainly why its frowned upon (other than its having sex with a member of your family), so its incest thats worse to me.

[Technologic]

marriage is religious and up to the church/mosque/synagogue/w.e, so gay marriage is wrong, forcing it upon the church to perform ceremonies which go against their beliefs.

gay civil partnerships are fine though :]

and incest is just lol

[Favourtism]

I actually can't believe how many people on this forum are classing civil partnerships equally as wrong as incest. There is nothing different within a homosexual relationship than a heterosexual relationship apart from sex.

Then again as it's been said you can't help who you fall in love with.
However, I do know that some people 'coming out' as homosexual can cause trouble within their family, however can you imagine two siblings who had been engaging in intercourse turning to their parents and being like "Mum, Dad, we're in love, we're sleeping together" that's gonna cause more trouble.

Incest is illegal for biological reasons.

However I'm not going to say which is 'worse' as there is nothing wrong with gay marriage, so quite frankly you could be comparing incest to heterosexual marriage. The two things in comparison are incompatible.

People are saying incest is un-natural etc but so is gay marriage etc :S

[Hecktix]

People are saying incest is un-natural etc but so is gay marriage etc :S

If homosexuality was unnatural **** sex would not be possible.
It also certainly wouldn't be pleasurable for the person on the receiving end.

[FlyingJesus]

If incest was unnatural then family sex would not be possible.
It also certainly wouldn't be pleasurable for the person on the receiving end.

[Absently]

Neither is worse really, 'cos their not bad at all iaf? People don't choose to be gay or incest, it just happens. You can't help who you fall for :S

Like, yeah in my opinion I don't like the idea of incest. Because I can't imagine having kids with my brother.. But like, if they didn't know eachother from when they were kids and met and fell in love, it's okay, 'cos they didn't know..

I think I'm like contradicting myself there?

[Hecktix]

If incest was unnatural then family sex would not be possible.
It also certainly wouldn't be pleasurable for the person on the receiving end.

Yes yes I knew this was coming as soon as I posted.

If it was natural there would be no biological implications.

[Asher]

uhm, ******* my brother just isn't my thing.

[RedStratocas]

marriage is religious and up to the church/mosque/synagogue/w.e

which is why government should have nothing to do with it.

the funny thing is that the answer to the problem of gay marriage is simple. "marriage" shouldnt be defined by the government. what the government should do is only recognize civil unions. then a man and a woman can still be a union legally and they can still call it "marriage" if they want, as defined by their church. there would be absolutely no difference other than what it's called by the government. they lose nothing. and it also allows gays to be in legal unions. they can call it "marriage" too but hey, whats it matter to you? no one loses in that situation.

[Technologic]

which is why government should have nothing to do with it.

the funny thing is that the answer to the problem of gay marriage is simple. "marriage" shouldnt be defined by the government. what the government should do is only recognize civil unions. then a man and a woman can still be a union legally and they can still call it "marriage" if they want, as defined by their church. there would be absolutely no difference other than what it's called by the government. they lose nothing. and it also allows gays to be in legal unions. they can call it "marriage" too but hey, whats it matter to you? no one loses in that situation.

that's pretty much how it works in the uk

[RedStratocas]

that's pretty much how it works in the uk

yeah but i live in the united states where everyone wants the government to stay out of people's lives unless the bible says they're doin nasty things like kissin each other and stuff.

[Technologic]

yeah but i live in the united states where everyone wants the government to stay out of people's lives unless the bible says they're doin nasty things like kissin each other and stuff.

i thought only republicans do that?

[RedStratocas]

i thought only republicans do that?

well yeah but only 3 of the 50 states allow gay marriage. california recently banned it in a vote. and california is considered a pretty democratic state.

obviously its not everyone, but theres enough people to keep the law where it is now.

[Technologic]

well yeah but only 3 of the 50 states allow gay marriage. california recently banned it in a vote. and california is considered a pretty democratic state.

obviously its not everyone, but theres enough people to keep the law where it is now.

I thought prop 8 got overturned in court?

[Jassim]

incest is just not right. 100% against
as for gay marriage, I think it's okay and don't really mind cause nobody ever bothers me