Gordon Brown to stand down?

[Fez]

Over the past few weeks, mainly this last week, there has been speculation that Gordon Brown is either stepping down or people within the Labour party will fight to get his position.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8032125.stm


Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman has denied a report she would fight for the party leadership, as speculation grows over Gordon Brown's position.
She insisted the story was "simply not true" and under "no circumstances" would she be a candidate.
She told the BBC's Today programme: "I don't want to be prime minister and I don't want to be leader of the party."
The Daily Telegraph said Ms Harman told friends she would stand if backbenchers tried to force the PM from office.
Ms Harman said she intended to keep the promise she made to Labour members at the time of her election as deputy leader - that she would stand behind Mr Brown.
She added: "My ambition is to remain his loyal and supportive deputy."

After more speculation of the deputy leader taking up the mantle, and after she claimed she wouldn't even want to fight to take it up - we can expect maybe his position to stay. But then again, politicians lie about position fighting all the time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8028367.stm

A call for Prime Minister Gordon Brown to resign has become the best supported petition on the Downing Street website.
The petition - started by Labour supporting academic Kalvis Jansons - has been backed by more than 38,000 people so far.

Brown has always been unpopular. Even in the House of Commons or his own website. What with the recent terrible week for the Labour party and the upcoming local elections, it's safe to say that he might not be hanging on for as long as we think.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8026296.stm


The government's Commons defeat over the Gurkhas shows Gordon Brown is "rapidly running out of political authority", David Cameron has said.

It's always been a bit of banter between Cameron and Brown but it's starting to make sense. Again, Cameron's comments against Brown is what makes him popular.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8019745.stm


They have secured a debate on the issue in the House of Commons on Wednesday.
Campaigners claim fewer than 100 of the Nepalese soldiers will benefit from the Home Office's offer of UK residency to Gurkhas who meet certain conditions.
The government insisted that changes to residency rules would allow an extra 4,300 former Gurkhas to settle.
Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg held talks with actress Joanna Lumley, who has spoken out on behalf of 36,000 Gurkhas denied residency because they served in the British Army before 1997.
Ms Lumley, whose father served in a Gurkha regiment, will join other campaigners for a demonstration outside Parliament when the debate is held.
'Not betrayed'
Mr Clegg said the debate meant that a minister would have to "come and explain the government's insulting decision to turn their back on these brave soldiers".
"This is our best chance to force Gordon Brown to back down, even at this late stage," he said.
"People who are prepared to fight and die for this country should be entitled to live here.

This is the Gurkhas issue. The government only wanted an extra 4,300 Gurkhas people to be allowed to immigrate to this country. But instead of a victory, Brown was defeated by his own party. 28 Labour MPs rebeled against the vote and challenged Brown's leadership. This just about finished off the terrible week for the Labour party.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=a1xjp8tsOmHE&refer=europe


Brown's Labour Party has the support of 28 percent of Britons, compared with 44 percent for the opposition Conservatives.

That was 3 weeks ago, and I can't seem to find the approval rating for the Labour party right now - but I'm betting it's even lower.

2 years ago Gordon Brown came into power. He wasn't voted in and the public didn't have a say. He had been in the Labour party for quite some time, and he guess he did need a little bit of a reward. But quite frankly, he has trashed the Labour party's image and the party itself. His face stamped on the front of the party is enough to put anyone off.

With his previous actions over the last 2 years, I honestly don't know how he's lasted this long. But now that the build-up to the terrible week and now it's finally happened, maybe Brown's position isn't safe? I personally think it's for the better as well. Brown hasn't exactly kept our British pride going, our faith in the government and our own democracy and he hasn't really changed much.

[Sarah]

Tony blair must be having a giggle.

[TheMagicTramp]

I believe in everything the BBC says so i say he will stand down as Prime Minister.

Please say he is standing down i would like David Cameron to become the next Prime Minister i've heard reports that he is really really really good.

[Fez]

Thing is, even if Labour win the next general election, do expect a new prime minister.

[Jordy]

I believe in everything the BBC says so i say he will stand down as Prime Minister.

Please say he is standing down i would like David Cameron to become the next Prime Minister i've heard reports that he is really really really good.If he stands down, Labour will still be in power.

I want Ed Balls to go for it, he's just a rather funny guy and is one of the few in Brown's cabinet to talk a bit of sense. I think Brown's future will be judged on the local elections and maybe European elections but I wouldn't be surprised if he just stuck at it anyway. He struggles to apologise and I can only recall him apologising once and then it was 'unreservedly' for someone else so the chances of him resigning are slim.

[Fez]

If he stands down, Labour will still be in power.

I want Ed Balls to go for it, he's just a rather funny guy and is one of the few in Brown's cabinet to talk a bit of sense. I think Brown's future will be judged on the local elections and maybe European elections but I wouldn't be surprised if he just stuck at it anyway. He struggles to apologise and I can only recall him apologising once and then it was 'unreservedly' for someone else so the chances of him resigning are slim.
I think having Ed as a Prime Minister would allow him to show off his balls a bit.

During political conferences, we would be represented by Balls.

When being asked if he puts words into people's mouths, his secretary will say "Balls' words do not go in anyone mouths."

Balls would be a good booster for the economy, he'd make it bounce up and down.

Okay I'll stop now :3

[Ardemax]

I believe in everything the BBC says so i say he will stand down as Prime Minister.

Please say he is standing down i would like David Cameron to become the next Prime Minister i've heard reports that he is really really really good.


are you having a laugh? david cameron couldn't control a class of school kids, let alone the british isles.

[Clowgon]

I believe in everything the BBC says so i say he will stand down as Prime Minister.

Please say he is standing down i would like David Cameron to become the next Prime Minister i've heard reports that he is really really really good.


LMAOOOO. GOOD ONE! :P


Serve the bulldog right! He pushed Tony Blair out of office, bullied him while at it, made up lies about him and made his cabinet turn against him!

Tony Blair must be laughing off his head at this minute, stepped down right before the recession. Well done Tony Blair! ;)

[Fez]

LMAOOOO. GOOD ONE! :P


Serve the bulldog right! He pushed Tony Blair out of office, bullied him while at it, made up lies about him and made his cabinet turn against him!

Tony Blair must be laughing off his head at this minute, stepped down right before the recession. Well done Tony Blair! ;)
Blair is actually teaching political science at Yale, so I can guess he's too busy marking papers to laugh his head off. But I can imagine a conversation with one of his students.

"Sir, can I say something?"
"Sure."
"About you stepping down as Prime Minister?"
"Yeah, go on."
"Nice timing sir."
"lol."

[Clowgon]

Blair is actually teaching political science at Yale, so I can guess he's too busy marking papers to laugh his head off. But I can imagine a conversation with one of his students.

"Sir, can I say something?"
"Sure."
"About you stepping down as Prime Minister?"
"Yeah, go on."
"Nice timing sir."
"lol."

Lol yeah, something down the line like that! :P

I would love to congratulate Tony in person.

Anyway, I'm sure he's a Peacemaker in the middle east? :S

[GommeInc]

For the sake of Labour, it is a good idea. Though I don't particularly like any of the main Labour MPs because they just seem too distant compared to the ones that surrounded Tony Blair. I would vote Conservative, but they don't appear to do anything or have any ideas on what to do, their policy is to just back talk Gordon Brown with no ideas of their own.

[Clowgon]

For the sake of Labour, it is a good idea. Though I don't particularly like any of the main Labour MPs because they just seem too distant compared to the ones that surrounded Tony Blair. I would vote Conservative, but they don't appear to do anything or have any ideas on what to do, their policy is to just back talk Gordon Brown with no ideas of their own.

I agree.

I hope everyone votes, don't want those racist BNP snoobs taking any seats.

[Dan2nd]

If Gordon Brown was to leave who else would there be to run the country... Harriet Harman? - Please god no!

Or in the case of a election David Cameron? - only three words can be used to describe this man: Pompous, posh, Prat is that what you want running the country?

Boris Johnson is where it is at!

[Fez]

Boris Johnson is where it is at!

Now there's an idea.

I'm pretty sure that the local elections will point us in the right direction of where the general election is headed.

[Clowgon]

I should be PM!

I'm clever, heavy handed, posh, snooby, rich and most importantly of all, I've got the looks. :8

[-:Undertaker:-]

The only difference between Tony Blair and Gordon Brown is that one knew who to work the media (he had charisma) and the other didn't, they are still at the same game with their lies on everything especially the European Union manifesto promise they made together, they both ran this countries finances into the ground.

The problem with the Conservatives is that David Cameron is keeping rather quiet for right-wingers liking and that is why people have been turning to UKIP. Its a shame that Michael Howard or William Hague ran too early in Labours prime, as I think and so so most Conservative supporters that they could of been fantastic Prime Ministers for the United Kingdom.

I have also heard though that Margaret Thatcher was much quieter before her election in 1979 than she was in office and that maybe Cameron is the same, I do hope so as we're starting to face the same situation that we faced in 1979 and we need another iron leader to sort this country out, but this time he faces not only economic problems but social problems. The Conservatives must again spend a term in office sorting out the economic mess another Labour government has left behind; to be successful David Cameron has to be radical or he will fail.

[Clowgon]

The only difference between Tony Blair and Gordon Brown is that one knew who to work the media (he had charisma) and the other didn't, they are still at the same game with their lies on everything especially the European Union manifesto promise they made together, they both ran this countries finances into the ground.

The problem with the Conservatives is that David Cameron is keeping rather quiet for right-wingers liking and that is why people have been turning to UKIP. Its a shame that Michael Howard or William Hague ran too early in Labours prime, as I think and so so most Conservative supporters that they could of been fantastic Prime Ministers for the United Kingdom.

I have also heard though that Margaret Thatcher was much quieter before her election in 1979 than she was in office and that maybe Cameron is the same, I do hope so as we're starting to face the same situation that we faced in 1979 and we need another iron leader to sort this country out, but this time he faces not only economic problems but social problems. The Conservatives must again spend a term in office sorting out the economic mess another Labour government has left behind; to be successful David Cameron has to be radical or he will fail.

Maybe if Witch Thatcher didn't sold most of our Private sector then we wouldn't be in such debt!

To be honest, leading a Country out in these difficult times is very hard, people don't seem to see that, it's not that easy getting a Country, especially like ours back on it's feet in terms of economy wise. No other man/woman would be able to get out of this difficult situation without taking huge sanctions in the process. (TAXES)

Gordon Brown is a weak man and he's at virtual breaking point. Tony Blair knew how to handle the media well.

David Cameron is all talk with no balls, he says he will do this and do that but quite frankly he'll do the quite opposite. His polices won't work in getting the economy back on it's feet and people are still scared of voting in the Conservatives to lead the Country as we all know they did a "horrific" job in the late 70's. ;)

I have nothing else to say. :8

[Jordy]

Maybe if Witch Thatcher didn't sold most of our Private sector then we wouldn't be in such debt!

To be honest, leading a Country out in these difficult times is very hard, people don't seem to see that, it's not that easy getting a Country, especially like ours back on it's feet in terms of economy wise. No other man/woman would be able to get out of this difficult situation without taking huge sanctions in the process. (TAXES)

Gordon Brown is a weak man and he's at virtual breaking point. Tony Blair knew how to handle the media well.

David Cameron is all talk with no balls, he says he will do this and do that but quite frankly he'll do the quite opposite. His polices won't work in getting the economy back on it's feet and people are still scared of voting in the Conservatives to lead the Country as we all know they did a "horrific" job in the late 70's. ;)

I have nothing else to say. :8You're absolutely right, I think it will be incredibly difficult to get out the economic situation, it is global yes but for the past 10 years when Gordon Brown was chancellor, he had us totally unprepared for it. I think this can be sorted out but it will need radical changes. The problem was that Gordon Brown began borrowing money from the IMF when the economy was doing well, when labour came to power in 97 our debt was very low, all he's done is increased it so we're in the awful situation we are now. Don't borrow when the economies doing well (Sorry Dan for stealing this but SIMPLE ECONOMICS). He got credited with the economy doing well yet it was just luck, how this man came our prime minister I don't know but in a way, I guess he's not chancellor anymore which could well be a good thing :P

The Labour party just seem to be going back to their traditional left-wing views, Tony Blair radically changed the Labour party by introducing 'New Labour' yet the current cabinet has quite a lot of old folk, including Gordon Brown who is still traditional Labour so I can't see 'new labour' lasting much longer.

[Fez]

Who would you guys like to see lead the Labour party instead of Brown? I want Jacqui Smith... for the luls.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Maybe if Witch Thatcher didn't sold most of our Private sector then we wouldn't be in such debt!

To be honest, leading a Country out in these difficult times is very hard, people don't seem to see that, it's not that easy getting a Country, especially like ours back on it's feet in terms of economy wise. No other man/woman would be able to get out of this difficult situation without taking huge sanctions in the process. (TAXES)

Gordon Brown is a weak man and he's at virtual breaking point. Tony Blair knew how to handle the media well.

David Cameron is all talk with no balls, he says he will do this and do that but quite frankly he'll do the quite opposite. His polices won't work in getting the economy back on it's feet and people are still scared of voting in the Conservatives to lead the Country as we all know they did a "horrific" job in the late 70's. ;)

I have nothing else to say. :8

I'm clueless to how you worked that one out, is that why in 1979 we had to appeal to the IMF for an emergency loan just to keep the country afloat and is that why in the 1980's the economy thanks to privatistion and smaller governments grew into one of Europes largest and most healthy economies?

You say the Conservatives did a horrific job in the late 1970's yet they weren't in power then, so to quote yourself "balls". You really do need to actually learn about the subject before you start throwing out false dates my friend.

Jordy, I love you. :P

[Clowgon]

Your absolutely right, I think it will be incredibly difficult to get out the economic situation, it is global yes but for the past 10 years when Gordon Brown was chancellor, he had us totally unprepared for it. I think this can be sorted out but it will need radical changes. The problem was that Gordon Brown began borrowing money from the IMF when the economy was doing well, when labour came to power in 97 our debt was very low, all he's done is increased it so we're in the awful situation we are now. Don't borrow when the economies doing well (Sorry Dan for stealing this but SIMPLE ECONOMICS). He got credited with the economy doing well yet it was just luck, how this man came our prime minister I don't know but in a way, I guess he's not chancellor anymore which could well be a good thing :P

The Labour party just seem to be going back to their traditional left-wing views, Tony Blair radically changed the Labour party by introducing 'New Labour' yet the current cabinet has quite a lot of old folk, including Gordon Brown who is still traditional Labour so I can't see 'new labour' lasting much longer.

I totally agree with you there. Gordon Brown borrowed money from the IMF when we never nescesarily needed it. The biggest blow where Labour have gone wrong is not saving in the good times for the bad times.

[Catzsy]

I can see David Milliband coming through for Labour. Gordon Brown? I am just :$:$
everytime I see him.

[Bun]

I can see David Milliband coming through for Labour. Gordon Brown? I am just :$:$
everytime I see him.

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[Bun]

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what the hell? it was a daft joke that wasn't even rude...


and yeah, woo david milliband! :rolleyes:

[Technologic]

He'll step down just before the election... man can't bear to lose one... or to win one either.