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Jord
13-05-2009, 05:24 PM
Amazing anime

It takes part in EW London Its about a vampire who works for a human to kill other evil vampires, And its EPIC


Upto episode 8 Atm

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Neversoft
13-05-2009, 05:49 PM
I thought it was incredibly unoriginal and not very entertaining to be honest. I hear Hellsing Ultimate is good, but the original series didn't leave a great impression on me so I doubt I'll bother with it.

Jord
13-05-2009, 06:23 PM
Aint you tryed watching it? First episode you dont see much fighting others it gets good.

Mentor
13-05-2009, 09:02 PM
Just thought id chip in, i thought hellsing was great :p Did you watch the original anime or the OVA?

Neversoft
13-05-2009, 09:13 PM
Aint you tryed watching it? First episode you dont see much fighting others it gets good.

I haven't tried the OVA Hellsing Ultimate, but I've seen the TV series Hellsing.

Jord
14-05-2009, 10:46 AM
Just thought id chip in, i thought hellsing was great :p Did you watch the original anime or the OVA?


Original anime


looks like we watched the same thing chris :( I really like it but I guess thats my type of anime xD

Mentor
14-05-2009, 04:13 PM
I thought it was incredibly unoriginal and not very entertaining to be honest. I hear Hellsing Ultimate is good, but the original series didn't leave a great impression on me so I doubt I'll bother with it.

Maybe its not your thing, but I've got to question the "unoriginal" part, Hellsing has a pretty unique dynamic to it which i haven't seen in any other show, anime or not. Equally its an interesting art style will a nicely developed mythology. Equally it has a hilarious take on what us Brits are like.
I cant really think of any other anime or show in general thats at all similar so the unoriginal part seems like a bit of an unfair comment.

PaulMacC
14-05-2009, 05:21 PM
I've watched the first 3 episodes of it and I didnt really like it either. It was like they took Krory out of D.gray-man and based a whole anime around him.

Neversoft
14-05-2009, 06:10 PM
Maybe its not your thing, but I've got to question the "unoriginal" part, Hellsing has a pretty unique dynamic to it which i haven't seen in any other show, anime or not. Equally its an interesting art style will a nicely developed mythology. Equally it has a hilarious take on what us Brits are like.
I cant really think of any other anime or show in general thats at all similar so the unoriginal part seems like a bit of an unfair comment.

I won't disagree that it was quite dynamic at parts, but as a vampire series I didn't think it was doing anything new. That's why I said I thought it was quite unoriginal, plot-wise anyway. It took me a long while to get into it, but the characters kept me going. Even though Victoria was quite an annoying, cliche character, I couldn't bring myself to dislike her and Alucard was just damn awesome. I wouldn't say its bad or anything, it does have its merits even from my point of view, but like you say its probably just not my thing.

Mentor
15-05-2009, 01:09 AM
I won't disagree that it was quite dynamic at parts, but as a vampire series I didn't think it was doing anything new. That's why I said I thought it was quite unoriginal, plot-wise anyway. It took me a long while to get into it, but the characters kept me going. Even though Victoria was quite an annoying, cliche character, I couldn't bring myself to dislike her and Alucard was just damn awesome. I wouldn't say its bad or anything, it does have its merits even from my point of view, but like you say its probably just not my thing.
I mean dynamic more in the sense of how the characters interact with one another, in this case specificity alucard simply because its the only program ive ever know to include a truly immortal character. Plenty of anime's will include a almost unkillable character, but they never go beyond almost, since the standard dynamic requires a realistic risk of death or at the very least the loose occasionally and maybe be in danger once of twice.
But with alucard this never happens, no matter what he's put up against, none of them are even the remotest threat.

That's really what drew me to this anime, and one of the reasons i don't really think this can be put down as just another vampire flick. Considering the total lack of risk to the main character after all, you'd think it would be hard to build tension around a story, this anime unlike others instead just makes use of the characters well deserved confidence and cockyness combined with his interest in toying with his opponents in order to pass the time "/ If there's another anime that does this, im not aware of it. Hence my complaint about the show being referred to as unoriginal "/

Neversoft
15-05-2009, 07:31 AM
I understand what you're saying, but immortality is a device that is almost always used in vampire shows. Plus I do know of other characters that are truly immortal, Manji from Blade of the Immortal for example, and you could even argue that Haruhi from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is immortal since she is god. Also, when anyone dies in Bleach, they don't actually die, they get to live on in Soul Society. I've also come across many other cocky and confident characters who like to toy with their opponent besides Alucard, which is why I can pin this down as just another vampire flick. From my point of view, I didn't think Hellsing was very original. Probably because I've been exposed to all of the story elements, plot devices and character archetypes before. However, you do think it is original. It's just a matter of tastes and what we've seen beforehand.

Jord
15-05-2009, 08:13 AM
I've watched the first 3 episodes of it and I didnt really like it either. It was like they took Krory out of D.gray-man and based a whole anime around him.


dgray man is 2006 hellsing is 2005

Mentor
15-05-2009, 08:26 AM
I understand what you're saying, but immortality is a device that is almost always used in vampire shows. Plus I do know of other characters that are truly immortal, Manji from Blade of the Immortal for example, and you could even argue that Haruhi from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is immortal since she is god. Also, when anyone dies in Bleach, they don't actually die, they get to live on in Soul Society. I've also come across many other cocky and confident characters who like to toy with their opponent besides Alucard, which is why I can pin this down as just another vampire flick. From my point of view, I didn't think Hellsing was very original. Probably because I've been exposed to all of the story elements, plot devices and character archetypes before. However, you do think it is original. It's just a matter of tastes and what we've seen beforehand.
Firstly i think wikipedia. best answers your first example.
Blade of the Immortal follows the deeds of Manji, a skilled samurai who has a decisive advantage: no wound can kill him, except for a rare poison.

Bleach equally includes a cop out, as although if you die in the real world you go to soul society (that or become a hollow), if you die within soul society (as stated within the soul society story arch) you die for real* or at least can never come back.
*The Bleach universe is a little broken to say the least.

Haruhi, isn't really the right kind of anime to compare here as the story line when including danger at all is more to do with the risk she poses to others. At no point is there any real confrontation to speak of.

Plus plenty of vampire shows do include some level of immortality, but generally this is only up until they ether get holy water thrown at them, smell garlic or simply get a steak through the heart.

Haruhi despite the different focus of the Haruhi Suzumiya series is still the closest thing you've really come up with to an immortal character "/ Although this is again greatly challenged by the implication of time travellers (and her lack of quantum awareness), but I'll let that slip as making sense of a time travel enabled universe is something few manage to do even remotely convincingly.


If you want to include more the more supposed immortal characters, whom all have one big weeknes (thus meaning there not imortal) you may as well through super man with his kyrptonite in there for good measure.
Equally if you want to allow the respawn ability in to avoid characters getting killed off, you have everything from the dragonball series to pretty much every first person shooter game ever created "/
Its not really the same dynamic as simply "cant die"

, you may as well add in everyone from superman t

PaulMacC
15-05-2009, 05:52 PM
dgray man is 2006 hellsing is 2005
D.gray-man manga was before Hellsing anime. Which I see that the anime is hardly related to manga of Hellsing.

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