RIP threads

[Skajo]

I'm not going to write an essay on what I think but the only reason these should be made if the person who died either;


is famous
used Habbo / HabboxForum
other specific things that I can't think about at the moment

To be fair, I don't want to know if someone's grandma's died because to be fair, it's natural. My grandma's going to die eventually because she's old and that's what old people do - sorry to be so blunt but it's the truth.

Anyway, call me insensative but it's just what I think. It's a waste of a thread because if no-one knew, it wouldn't affect them (not that it does after being told that either).

Only a thought.

*waits for -rep*

[GoldenMerc]

your well and truly wacky.

[Skajo]

your well and truly wacky.
And you're not respecting my opinion.

[lick]

lol at him correcting your spelling sadmuch?

also i dont see why people should not be alowed make them, its not like its having an impact on your life

[Skajo]

lol at him correcting your spelling sadmuch?


I never corrected his spelling; there was nothing wrong with it.

[Geraint]

all people say is rip for extra post count. if you've noticed i never reply in such threads because if I say rip I won't mean it because I have no idea who the person is

[Caution]

Fair enough if it was in spam, but it was in discuss anything. I don't think they should be allowed outside of spam unless, as you said it's someone who's famous or whatever. It is a bit stupid saying R.I.P when you don't know them, I know I'm contradicting myself but I just done it to be respectful rly.

[Catzsy]

Fair enough if it was in spam, but it was in discuss anything. I don't think they should be allowed outside of spam unless, as you said it's someone who's famous or whatever. It is a bit stupid saying R.I.P when you don't know them, I know I'm contradicting myself but I just done it to be respectful rly.

I don't think spam would be appropriate. Discuss anything is exactly that if its a constructive thread. My view is that members can post in teen life about their problems so why can't they post RIP threads of people that meant a lot to them. This is a community so we should support members in times of need which amongst other things could be the loss of of a loved one or close friend. Geraint if you think somebody has posted an RIP thread just for post count then
there is always the option of reporting it.

[Immenseman]

If people want to create them then I fail to see how it affects you. Geraint, saying people post in them for post count is ludicrous. I would do it to be polite. Say for example a user has posted "R.I.P. George" or what have you and nobody replied, that'd make them feel worse. I don't want people to feel bad. Maybe you've had no family deaths, but they aren't fun. I personally would never post something so personal on this forum because none of you know my family (some exceptions josh and dan etc) so although you might be sad for me that my Grandad has passed away or whatever you won't really care.

What if the person has nobody else to talk and uses the internet to "escape" and wants to talk about it on here. Can you blame them? No, not really it's a way of letting their feelings out. I really don't see how they harm anyone.

[jackass]

If someone wants to pay their respects to someone they have lost, then they have every right to do so.

I find it quite harsh that this thread was even made, who are you to tell people that they can't say goodbye to people they have lost.

[Geraint]

jesus christ, he was only stating his opinion and so was I about the post count thing.

[Immenseman]

and we're stating our opinion. it's a forum, opinions clash.

[Geraint]

and we're stating our opinion. it's a forum, opinions clash.

putting other people's opinion down though...

[luce]

I agree with you for those reasons and this. We don't want to know what your family dies because what are we meant to say

1. Im sorry
2. im sorry
3. UNLUCKY

2 of them are pointless and the thrid is sick so yeah. Also one of my friends did kill himself.. If i had made a thread when it happened i would have got abuse and stupid sympathy messgaes.. how does that help?

I haven't actually come across these threads because i don't use the forums that they're posted in but it's not something i would take pleasure in reading. This is what the deaths section in news papers are for not a habbo teen forum :D!!!!

[buttons]

Fair enough if it was in spam, but it was in discuss anything. I don't think they should be allowed outside of spam unless, as you said it's someone who's famous or whatever. It is a bit stupid saying R.I.P when you don't know them, I know I'm contradicting myself but I just done it to be respectful rly.
Spam is for pointless things that have no meaning, are you saying a death has no meaning?!?!

If people want to create them then I fail to see how it affects you. Geraint, saying people post in them for post count is ludicrous. I would do it to be polite. Say for example a user has posted "R.I.P. George" or what have you and nobody replied, that'd make them feel worse. I don't want people to feel bad. Maybe you've had no family deaths, but they aren't fun. I personally would never post something so personal on this forum because none of you know my family (some exceptions josh and dan etc) so although you might be sad for me that my Grandad has passed away or whatever you won't really care.

What if the person has nobody else to talk and uses the internet to "escape" and wants to talk about it on here. Can you blame them? No, not really it's a way of letting their feelings out. I really don't see how they harm anyone.
Then it should still be kept to MSN or by private messaging others they feel they can talk to, no point telling the whole forum because then they will just be ***** and unsympathetic towards you as displayed already.


Why when something tragic to someone that we all don't know happens and is posted about in the World News forum and has been on the Tv, we all suddenly start to care? You get replys like "poor man:(", "what a horrible way to go" Ok, maybe you don't actually care but we aren't exactly going to write any insensitive or harsh comments (a few probably would) about it, these people that are posted from the news are veryyy likely not to be connected to anyone on here at all but when it comes to someone that's close to anothers heart they get shouted at just because you don't know them, I don't understand. However, from the msn conversations I've had with a few people here, if these people know of another members family's death or illness they are subject to abuse because these people know exactly how to get personal and hurt someones feelings, and yes I'm hypocritical for that. The last thing I'd want to do is announce a death of any of my family because of the stuff I've seen said about others, I even told 2 people about something personal to me and I got the sly comments here and there and still do;). I think private matters should be kept private as it just gives people the chance to target you. I don't particularly care of anything that's happened that's why I don't reply to the threads but I'm not insensitive enough to have a go at them about it, as if you're ever going to get a rule passed that says "don't post about deaths unless they have been covered by media, are famous or use this forum." No.

[Geraint]

Personally, I wouldn't tell anyone incase someone says something bad.

[Skajo]

Erm, I'm not talking about saying RIP in real life which is how you're talking. I'm talking about this forum.


What if the person has nobody else to talk and uses the internet to "escape" and wants to talk about it on here. Can you blame them? No, not really it's a way of letting their feelings out. I really don't see how they harm anyone.
There's specific websites for that. Make a blog or something. A Habbo forum REALLY isn't the place to let loose. Facebook, Myspace whatever is.



I find it quite harsh that this thread was even made, who are you to tell people that they can't say goodbye to people they have lost.
I'm sure my grandad would be proud of me if I created a thread about his death :rolleyes:. I'm not saying that, I'm saying it shouldn't happen on a Habbo forum.

It's just my opinion. Calm down.

[Catzsy]

Spam is for pointless things that have no meaning, are you saying a death has no meaning?!?!

Then it should still be kept to MSN or by private messaging others they feel they can talk to, no point telling the whole forum because then they will just be ***** and unsympathetic towards you as displayed already.


Why when something tragic to someone that we all don't know happens and is posted about in the World News forum and has been on the Tv, we all suddenly start to care? You get replys like "poor man:(", "what a horrible way to go" Ok, maybe you don't actually care but we aren't exactly going to write any insensitive or harsh comments (a few probably would) about it, these people that are posted from the news are veryyy likely not to be connected to anyone on here at all but when it comes to someone that's close to anothers heart they get shouted at just because you don't know them, I don't understand. However, from the msn conversations I've had with a few people here, if these people know of another members family's death or illness they are subject to abuse because these people know exactly how to get personal and hurt someones feelings, and yes I'm hypocritical for that. The last thing I'd want to do is announce a death of any of my family because of the stuff I've seen said about others, I even told 2 people about something personal to me and I got the sly comments here and there and still do;). I think private matters should be kept private as it just gives people the chance to target you. I don't particularly care of anything that's happened that's why I don't reply to the threads but I'm not insensitive enough to have a go at them about it, as if you're ever going to get a rule passed that says "don't post about deaths unless they have been covered by media, are famous or use this forum." No.


I can see your point and do respect it. On the other hand members should feel free to express themselves without being targetted by negative posts like these. As I said it's a community and members feel part of it and if they have problems/tragedies in their own life they want to talk about then they should be free to do so. Not all people want to keep things private. If members feel it is for post count then they can report it. As you say there is no need for insensitive posts at all. There is also no reason that this thread in feedback shouldn't be made. He has a genuine belief that these sorts of threads shouldn't be made and he is entitled to his opionion whether we agree or not. It's the insensitive and inappropriate posts and people who target misfortune that should be clamped down upon.

[Immenseman]

Erm, I'm not talking about saying RIP in real life which is how you're talking. I'm talking about this forum.


There's specific websites for that. Make a blog or something. A Habbo forum REALLY isn't the place to let loose. Facebook, Myspace whatever is.


I'm sure my grandad would be proud of me if I created a thread about his death :rolleyes:. I'm not saying that, I'm saying it shouldn't happen on a Habbo forum.

It's just my opinion. Calm down.


Spam is for pointless things that have no meaning, are you saying a death has no meaning?!?!

Then it should still be kept to MSN or by private messaging others they feel they can talk to, no point telling the whole forum because then they will just be ***** and unsympathetic towards you as displayed already.


Why when something tragic to someone that we all don't know happens and is posted about in the World News forum and has been on the Tv, we all suddenly start to care? You get replys like "poor man:(", "what a horrible way to go" Ok, maybe you don't actually care but we aren't exactly going to write any insensitive or harsh comments (a few probably would) about it, these people that are posted from the news are veryyy likely not to be connected to anyone on here at all but when it comes to someone that's close to anothers heart they get shouted at just because you don't know them, I don't understand. However, from the msn conversations I've had with a few people here, if these people know of another members family's death or illness they are subject to abuse because these people know exactly how to get personal and hurt someones feelings, and yes I'm hypocritical for that. The last thing I'd want to do is announce a death of any of my family because of the stuff I've seen said about others, I even told 2 people about something personal to me and I got the sly comments here and there and still do;). I think private matters should be kept private as it just gives people the chance to target you. I don't particularly care of anything that's happened that's why I don't reply to the threads but I'm not insensitive enough to have a go at them about it, as if you're ever going to get a rule passed that says "don't post about deaths unless they have been covered by media, are famous or use this forum." No.

If you'd actually read my point, I acknowledge what you're saying - I personally do agree with you. However, I don't have tunnelled vision. Some people don't have people to talk to - they ventilate their emotions on to the internet. Habbox Forum is part of that thus people post what is close to their heart.

It's obviously easier for people to post on here then to explain their feelings to somebody in real life. How can you criticise them for that? They aren't you - nor does it affect you. You have the capability to ignore the thread and I'd be more worried if the threads were annoying you.

It isn't something that I and clearly you two would post on this forum because it's nothing to do with the whole forum. Sure I might tell a few people on here if a relative died because I talk to them daily.

You have to allow people to post what they want; providing it doesn't violate the forum rules. If people desire to post about family deaths for whatever reason then you can't penalise them for doing so. Just ignore the threads.

[Skajo]

I'm not narrow minded, Jake - I just have an opinion that seems to contradict the opposite opinion. That's the basic fundementals of how opinions work... so why bring up narrow mindedness?

I do understand people need to let loose but a Habbo forum isn't the place. At all. Ever.

[Immenseman]

I didn't say you were narrow minded, don't try and interpret my posts Having an opinion is one thing; I posted mine you posted yours. I can see both views, you can't thus my comment about me not having tunnelled vision. It was a fact, I don't.

[buttons]

If you'd actually read my point, I acknowledge what you're saying - I personally do agree with you. However, I don't have tunnelled vision. Some people don't have people to talk to - they ventilate their emotions on to the internet. Habbox Forum is part of that thus people post what is close to their heart.

It's obviously easier for people to post on here then to explain their feelings to somebody in real life. How can you criticise them for that? They aren't you - nor does it affect you. You have the capability to ignore the thread and I'd be more worried if the threads were annoying you.

It isn't something that I and clearly you two would post on this forum because it's nothing to do with the whole forum. Sure I might tell a few people on here if a relative died because I talk to them daily.

You have to allow people to post what they want; providing it doesn't violate the forum rules. If people desire to post about family deaths for whatever reason then you can't penalise them for doing so. Just ignore the threads.
"If you'd actually read my point" I said I think it's perfectly acceptable if they talk to someone over msn or PM, if they were really having trouble coping they could then post in Teen Life. I'm much more concerned if they get bullied and targetted for being weak due to them posting about it rather than the death itself. I don't want to see threads like "RIP" because I don't see a purpose of it other than to say "RIP" to someone you don't know, it's pointless but I don't mind. I can ignore the threads which is why I won't post in them.
You just summed up my point anyway "it isn't something I would post on this forum because it's nothing to do with the whole forum." That's my point, it's nothing to do with the forum, no-one really cares and you'll just get targetted, simple. I don't care if they're made, I'm just saying I know where Adam is coming from, if any problems occur with any members family dying then they are obviously entitled to have a little moan about it through Teen Life or by PMing someone they trust. They would probably still be targetted but it's what I'd do rather than to expect people I don't even know nor my family to give the person who died some "respect" by saying RIP over an internet forum.

[J0SH]

And you're not respecting my opinion.

You should never start a sentance with and. :)

[culturist]

You should never start a sentance with and. :)

*sentence (just joking)

anyway, to be perfectly honest i think that everyone should have the right to post a thread about someone or something that has died as it is a way of expressing their feelings...

as i'm sure if a family member of yours died that you would be upset about it (unless you really hated them for some reason or another)

[J0SH]

*sentence (just joking)

anyway, to be perfectly honest i think that everyone should have the right to post a thread about someone or something that has died as it is a way of expressing their feelings...

as i'm sure if a family member of yours died that you would be upset about it (unless you really hated them for some reason or another)

Haha someone noticed, you win the game :D

[e5]

To be fair, everyone has feelings and sometimes wishes to express those here on the forum. To be fair, you don't even have to read the threads, so don't. To be fair.

[Mrs.McCall]

I have to agree with the thread starter here.

I just don't understand why people post these threads of the forum. What are they expecting to get out of it? I mean, I don't know your grandad or whatever so I can't exactly console you and share in your grief.

I do find it bizzare though when people post threads like "My mum was hit by a car 5 minutes ago" or "my aunt just died in Hospital" because it confuses me as to why the feel it is more important to tell us on here. I think a lot of these threads are attention seeking and something so personal as grief sould be kept private and off the forum. Most of the time the forum members react negativly which results in arguments and the thread being closed.

If they were to post a poem on the forum regarding it then fair enough because it isn't an RIP thread, it's the threads that merely set out to say "x RIP <3" or "x has been dead x years RIP <3" that I think are pointless and shouldn't be regarded as anything other than pointless.

Just my opinion.

[Barkseh]

And you arn't as fit as me.

I agree though.. I quite honestly couldn't give a flying quacking duck if someone I didn't know died of natural/common causes.


And you're not respecting my opinion.

[Immenseman]

"If you'd actually read my point" I said I think it's perfectly acceptable if they talk to someone over msn or PM, if they were really having trouble coping they could then post in Teen Life. I'm much more concerned if they get bullied and targetted for being weak due to them posting about it rather than the death itself. I don't want to see threads like "RIP" because I don't see a purpose of it other than to say "RIP" to someone you don't know, it's pointless but I don't mind. I can ignore the threads which is why I won't post in them.
You just summed up my point anyway "it isn't something I would post on this forum because it's nothing to do with the whole forum." That's my point, it's nothing to do with the forum, no-one really cares and you'll just get targetted, simple. I don't care if they're made, I'm just saying I know where Adam is coming from, if any problems occur with any members family dying then they are obviously entitled to have a little moan about it through Teen Life or by PMing someone they trust. They would probably still be targetted but it's what I'd do rather than to expect people I don't even know nor my family to give the person who died some "respect" by saying RIP over an internet forum.

So you're basically saying the same as me then. I don't know why Adam posted in here though, what exactly does he want to happen. These threads aren't going to be "against the rules" because that is bordering on ludicrous.

It comes down to opinion; some people want to make a thread about it. Others don't. Why they make these threads, I don't know. Whether like Joey said it's for attention or whether it's because they want to know that other people are there to support them. We can't generalise because everyone is different.

The bottom line still is if people don't want to see a thread then they won't click it. I don't see the purpose in this thread because there isn't going to a rule put in place "don't post about family deaths" for obvious reasons.

[Barkseh]

gd point


won't click it. I don't see the purpose in this thread because there isn't going to a rule put in place "don't post about family deaths" for obvious reasons.

[Immenseman]

thnx m8, i'm full of them.

[buttons]

as if you're ever going to get a rule passed that says "don't post about deaths unless they have been covered by media, are famous or use this forum." No.

gd point
thnx m8, i'm full of them.
-glare at jake-

[Immenseman]

i'm more important and made it more coherent into my reply, sorry :eusa_danc

[Barkseh]

Soz I never read the full thread haha.


thnx m8, i'm full of them.
-glare at jake-

[Skajo]

You should never start a sentance with and. :)
Says who?

[nvrspk4]

Says who?

Its one of those grammatical rules that nobody ever follows :P The same thing applies to because.

I do see some validity in the thread starter's point, however I think it would be silly to make a rule "Don't post about family deaths."

I don't think that the forum is the place for this, I think its more for a TeenHelp type forum, if people are having trouble dealing with the death of a loved one then that goes in Teen Help but that's a little bit different than an obituary thread.

But if people choose to do so, it should probably be in Spam or Discuss Anything. Probably spam because its closer to that (not that its meaningless, but its more conversational than constructive).

[Skajo]

I'm not saying there should be a rule because that's stupid, I just think there should be a specific place (if it continues) like a "Condolences thread" in Teen Life or something because if someone posts a thread then all it is, is random people saying RIP to someone who they didn't know, don't know and won't know. Silly if you ask me. If you believe that post your so and so threads are classed as spam then these threads should as well.

Should have a sub-forum somewhere with disabled post count maybe?

[nvrspk4]

I'm not saying there should be a rule because that's stupid, I just think there should be a specific place (if it continues) like a "Condolences thread" in Teen Life or something because if someone posts a thread then all it is, is random people saying RIP to someone who they didn't know, don't know and won't know. Silly if you ask me. If you believe that post your so and so threads are classed as spam then these threads should as well.

Should have a sub-forum somewhere with disabled post count maybe?

I understand where you're coming from, but I think the motivation is wrong. Not your motivation, but the general motivation for the creation of a forum. Usually forums are created to give people an opportunity to discuss something, but the prevailing notion seems to be that this forum shouldn't become a place to discuss obituaries. So I think the creation of a forum would be encouraging it even more.

I just think the general forum environment isn't that conducive to these threads and they'll die out eventually as people stop making them.

[Blinger1]

I think the threads like "RIP MY GOLDFISH" or "RIP MY 2 MINUTE OLD SEACAT" are worse.. nobody cares if you have a fish for two minutes and when you put it into your water it dies!!!


And the 'joke RIP' threads are bad imo, we shouldn't joke about people carking it...

[Skajo]

I just think the general forum environment isn't that conducive to these threads and they'll die out eventually as people stop making them.
That's the thing though; it's long been a 'problem' that can't be sorted either way I guess - I don't know if anything can be done about it and nothing most probably will. I just thought I'd bring it to your attention, Nebula.

[xxMATTGxx]

I think we should all respect peoples views and if they feel they need to create a thread for a close friend or even a family member dyeing. Then they should. You might feel what's the point when no one will know them? But like some of you had said HabboxForum and other forums on the net are here for people to discuss and talk to people. Yeah private messages may be helpful but sometimes people just need to get it out as it makes them feel better inside. Although I think threads being made with "RIP" and taking the mick or being disrespectful is wrong.

[J0SH]

Maybe people want comforting if their nan or someone dies so they post on the forum so people can say R.I.P?

[leah]

I'm not going to write an essay on what I think but the only reason these should be made if the person who died either;


is famous
used Habbo / HabboxForum
other specific things that I can't think about at the moment
To be fair, I don't want to know if someone's grandma's died because to be fair, it's natural. My grandma's going to die eventually because she's old and that's what old people do - sorry to be so blunt but it's the truth.

Anyway, call me insensative but it's just what I think. It's a waste of a thread because if no-one knew, it wouldn't affect them (not that it does after being told that either).

Only a thought.

*waits for -rep*
I think that if people want to post that their family or friend have passed away they can in spam or discuss anything, they can. Clearly they would feel depressed and upset about it and they might feel comfort from other peoples comments.

[nvrspk4]

That's the thing though; it's long been a 'problem' that can't be sorted either way I guess - I don't know if anything can be done about it and nothing most probably will. I just thought I'd bring it to your attention, Nebula.

Jesus, you always pop up with different forum names and it takes me forever to figure out its you :o

I don't think either solution is really "dealing" with the problem unless we wholeheartedly endorse the creation *whenever* anybody dies.