Moderators & Rules

[AgnesIO]

Hey,

I feel the rules on the forum need to be MUCH more flexible.

On the forum you get infracted just for telling someone to 'shut up' or they are a 'fool'. I want to be honest here - I wouldn't of been told off for doing that at school?

On this forum it is likely that over 50% of the users are atleast 14. If this is the case, don't you think you are treating us like 6 year olds? I know there needs to be rules, or the forum would be messed up - but seriously - getting told off for saying 'shut up'?

On the Habbo Hotel Client you could go around telling people 'YOU ARE A ******* ******!' You wouldn't even get a MOD warning - so why the hell do you get warned on the HABBO forum, when half the users don't even PLAY habbo.

So please answer in the poll on your age group, and reply to what you think about my idea/rant.

Personally if over half the users that vote in the poll are other 14, don't you think that means change is finally needed?

Thanks,

Dom

[AgnesIO]

75% so far - rules need to be changed?

[PriceTags]

The poll isn't fair because one category is bigger than the other. The 11-13 age range has a small representation on the forum anyway, but for the poll to be reliable, the ranges need to be equal, because there's more chance of someone being 14, 15, 16 or 17 than 11, 12 or 13. Been doing statistics in maths for an exam in a couple of weeks :D

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I fit into the 14-17 group and think there's a massive difference from being 14 & 17, I was still rather immature then. If you are let off with swearing and insulting people it will just make the forum look unapprochable and unfriendly, meaning many would probably leave due to bullying and it would make new people steer clearl :S It's still a habbo forum even if a lot of people don't play it and probably everyone on here are because of habbo, it's not a teen forum which is why the things you can say/talk about are limited. There is no need for swearing or being rude anyway.

[PriceTags]

I fit into the 14-17 group and think there's a massive difference from being 14 & 17, I was still rather immature then. If you are let off with swearing and insulting people it will just make the forum look unapprochable and unfriendly, meaning many would probably leave due to bullying and it would make new people steer clearl :S It's still a habbo forum even if a lot of people don't play it and probably everyone on here are because of habbo, it's not a teen forum which is why the things you can say/talk about are limited. There is no need for swearing or being rude anyway.

I agree. There are better ways of telling someone that the comment they made was 'foolish' and there's no need to be telling anyone to leave the forum anyway. The moderators do their best to make HxF look like a friendly community where you can say what you want within reason, without swearing, being abusive or making other users feel unwelcome.

I would say fairer boundaries would be ≤10, 11-14, 15-18, 19≥

[Hecktix]

for age i think this poll is rather representative: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=569838

mods arent half as bad as they used to be so stop complaining.

[Plank]

The trouble is with a forum any comments that are made stay there forever, unlike things like habbo where after a few seconds the comment disappears.

And I agree with the person above that it is far less strict than it used to be on here

[Flicker]

The trouble is with a forum any comments that are made stay there forever, unlike things like habbo where after a few seconds the comment disappears.

And I agree with the person above that it is far less strict than it used to be on here

In extremities, Hitler could say that he started killing less people, so it's better.

But that's still bad, isn't it?

I haven't been on a single forum, not one, in which the rules are this babbyish.

[Plank]

In extremities, Hitler could say that he started killing less people, so it's better.

But that's still bad, isn't it?

I haven't been on a single forum, not one, in which the rules are this babbyish.
The rules look pretty fair and common to me.

& a typical case of Godwin's Law there.

[Immenseman]

I think you should still be warned for being rude. You can't really compare it to Habbo. Say I told you to "**** off" on Habbo, doesn't take a genis to guess what that is right. It'd be there for about 30 seconds or less and I doubt that I'd be penalised by the UK mods. However, if I said it to you on here then it'd be there forever making like Jen said the forum look unapproachable and unprofessional. The rules on insulting another forum member are fine. Posting to cause arguments is another matter... :P

[AgnesIO]

The poll isn't fair because one category is bigger than the other. The 11-13 age range has a small representation on the forum anyway, but for the poll to be reliable, the ranges need to be equal, because there's more chance of someone being 14, 15, 16 or 17 than 11, 12 or 13. Been doing statistics in maths for an exam in a couple of weeks :D

I know but I made the poll as I think that when people reach 14 they TEND to mature..


I think you should still be warned for being rude. You can't really compare it to Habbo. Say I told you to "**** off" on Habbo, doesn't take a genis to guess what that is right. It'd be there for about 30 seconds or less and I doubt that I'd be penalised by the UK mods. However, if I said it to you on here then it'd be there forever making like Jen said the forum look unapproachable and unprofessional. The rules on insulting another forum member are fine. Posting to cause arguments is another matter... :P


But 2 months for telling someone to shut up?

thats a tad OTT surely :S.. Even if it was a VERY strict school u might get a break detention? :P

[dirrty]

You don't receive an infraction straight away anyway. First a usernote, warning then infraction. Therefore by the infraction stage, it should be quite obvious that what the user is doing is not acceptable. Just because there's more older users than younger doesn't mean the rules should be relaxed to compensate for the former. The whole point is that there ARE younger users who shouldn't have to put up/see insults or whatever because its not necessary.

[AgnesIO]

You don't receive an infraction straight away anyway. First a usernote, warning then infraction. Therefore by the infraction stage, it should be quite obvious that what the user is doing is not acceptable. Just because there's more older users than younger doesn't mean the rules should be relaxed to compensate for the former. The whole point is that there ARE younger users who shouldn't have to put up/see insults or whatever because its not necessary.


Its normally the younger users that start it all off though. If they don't like it - leave :P

Oh god yet another ifnraction coming my way..

[dirrty]

Its normally the younger users that start it all off though. If they don't like it - leave :P

Oh god yet another ifnraction coming my way..
Why would you receive an infraction for that lol :P

But nevertheless, you can't generalise as not all young users are like that. Even if some of them are like that, then the rules keep them and all users in place. I think the rules are fine atm as I'm sure they were relaxed/changed some time last year?

[buttons]

Its normally the younger users that start it all off though. If they don't like it - leave :P

Oh god yet another ifnraction coming my way..
Yeah, so if younger members "normally" start the arguments why on earth would the staff make the rules more lenient? It doesn't make sense. If the 'younger ones' were to leave because they don't like the abuse, so would others because of people being allowed to be abusive, where would we be then??

[Mint]

I never get infracted/warned on here for being rude, because I am actually a very nice person and would not be rude. :8

I just get infacted/warned for spelling a word wrong and being accused of avoiding the filter. :S Oh and I also sometimes get infractions for naming scammers. :P

But in all honesty, I don't think that the rules are too babyish. This is a forum where people should be able to come to for fun and to have a friendly chat. Although telling someone to shut up isn't a swear word or something that is classed as extremely unacceptable to say, it still isn't nice to read when you are on the receiving end. Maintaining a clean and friendly looking forum also improves Habbox's representation and makes new users feel welcome.

[AgnesIO]

Why would you receive an infraction for that lol :P

But nevertheless, you can't generalise as not all young users are like that. Even if some of them are like that, then the rules keep them and all users in place. I think the rules are fine atm as I'm sure they were relaxed/changed some time last year?


I've had loads of warning and Infractions for telling people to leave.

They say something like 'This forum is stupid' or 'All this forum are immature' - So i said if you don't like it leave - and Catzy had a go at me :S

[Mint]

I've had loads of warning and Infractions for telling people to leave.

They say something like 'This forum is stupid' or 'All this forum are immature' - So i said if you don't like it leave - and Catzy had a go at me :S

Yes she had a go at me as well, guess she is just a more mature member of the forum that likes to see every post in tip-top condition.

[AgnesIO]

Yes she had a go at me as well, guess she is just a more mature member of the forum that likes to see every post in tip-top condition.


I think you are being a bit kind there!

I think you mean she is a power mad opeson, that jumps on any chance to show she is a MOD ;)

[Mint]

I think you are being a bit kind there!

I think you mean she is a power mad opeson, that jumps on any chance to show she is a MOD ;)

Maybe in some cases. :P

[Immenseman]

Dom, I think you're too harsh on the moderators themselves. At the end of the day they don't make the rules but enforce them. You're basically calling them all useless. Sure, some moderators might genuinely be useless but you can't generalise and assume they're all the same because I know that isn't the case.

[GrandTheftAudio]

Funny thing is, a lot of people posting in this thread are total hypocrites.

[dirrty]

Catzsy is a great moderator and she isn't 'power mad'. But anyway, the rules are fine as they are atm.

[AgnesIO]

Dom, I think you're too harsh on the moderators themselves. At the end of the day they don't make the rules but enforce them. You're basically calling them all useless. Sure, some moderators might genuinely be useless but you can't generalise and assume they're all the same because I know that isn't the case.


Well its moderators that hav the best chance of getting rules changed, and no where in rules does t say I am not allowed to tell a member to leave. ;]

Atleast moderators are not run by Bomb-Head.. (He knows I dislkike him)

[Immenseman]

Well its moderators that hav the best chance of getting rules changed, and no where in rules does t say I am not allowed to tell a member to leave. ;]

Atleast moderators are not run by Bomb-Head.. (He knows I dislkike him)
That is a relief. Forum Management will make rule changes. You shouldn't criticise the moderators because they're just doing the job. I know not all of them do it for the right reasons but they still make it a nicer experience for everyone.

[AgnesIO]

That is a relief. Forum Management will make rule changes. You shouldn't criticise the moderators because they're just doing the job. I know not all of them do it for the right reasons but they still make it a nicer experience for everyone.

But they don't when they **** up their jobs. Many of them just stand over everyone else - you can PM half fo them to say 'Hi' and a lot of them make sure they add their Moderator status in their PM's just to show it.

But moderators are in the best posistion to get rules changed (by posting in staff forums..)

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P.S. If BH reads this, reply to my PM, as I would love a good answer.

[Immenseman]

But they don't when they **** up their jobs. Many of them just stand over everyone else - you can PM half fo them to say 'Hi' and a lot of them make sure they add their Moderator status in their PM's just to show it.

But moderators are in the best posistion to get rules changed (by posting in staff forums..)

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P.S. If BH reads this, reply to my PM, as I would love a good answer.
Moderators can have their opinion on rules; doesn't mean they'll be changed. I don't think a moderator is any more likely to get a rule changed then me or you for example. If there is a rule that is stupid and you made a thread arguing why it isn't needed and loads of people supported you then you have just as much chance of it being removed than if preposterous made the same thread.

They're here to help us. I can guarantee this thread is a better place with the moderators being here. They get rid of all the idiots and enforce rules. You get targeted quite a lot, yeah. Those people will be punished. You wouldn't like it if they weren't Dom. I'm sure B-H is too busy deleting PMs with staff permissions in to reply to yours, sorry.

[buttons]

If you don't like it, can you leave please?
You're saying it should be acceptable to tell people to leave, so please do. You're also saying members that can't handle the arguments/abuse should just go and because it seems you can't neither could you leave plz? (NOT IN THE RULES LOL!!!111!!244FIVE3)
Yeah you're right, Catzsy is just showing you that she's the mod, not you, she's only doing what she's meant to be doing so it isn't because she decides "ooh I don't like him I'll infract him." Leave.

[PriceTags]

I think you are being a bit kind there!

I think you mean she is a power mad opeson, that jumps on any chance to show she is a MOD ;)

How dare you refer to one of the most respected Habboxforum members as a 'power mad person that jumps on any chance to show she is a mod'. She has been using Habbox for goodness knows how long. She's been a super moderator in the past. Do power mad people (in general) get super moderator positions? No.

Catzsy is a very proud, polite, respectful member of Habbox and its community and helps to take good care of it.

[AgnesIO]

How dare you refer to one of the most respected Habboxforum members as a 'power mad person that jumps on any chance to show she is a mod'. She has been using Habbox for goodness knows how long. She's been a super moderator in the past. Do power mad people (in general) get super moderator positions? No.

Catzsy is a very proud, polite, respectful member of Habbox and its community and helps to take good care of it.


I sort of expected you to flame me..

Wouldn't be the first time would it?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - or has the freedom of speech been removed to?

I couldn't give a **** who she is, and yes i do, I dare.

[PriceTags]

I sort of expected you to flame me..

Wouldn't be the first time would it?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - or has the freedom of speech been removed to?

I couldn't give a **** who she is, and yes i do, I dare.

How was my post a flame? I didn't insult you once. I was just expressing my disagreement with your opinion that Catzsy is power mad and backing it up. People could easily give you a bit of your own advice here, but they have respect for the rules and other members, despite their opinions. It's not a matter of being allowed an opinion or freedom of speech - nobody questioned that.

[GrandTheftAudio]

Leave Catzy out of this. She's more mature than 70% of the other mods. She's not power mad. I could have got an infraction but no, I got a polite message regarding me of what I've done wrong and to be careful. That doesn't sound power mad now?

[PriceTags]

I think the question you need to answer is why do you want to be able to call people a fool, ask them to leave or tell them to shut up anyway? There just doesn't seem to be any point to it.

[GrandTheftAudio]

I think the question you need to answer is why do you want to be able to call people a fool, ask them to leave or tell them to shut up anyway? There just doesn't seem to be any point to it.

Exactly... Telling someone to shut up just causes arguments and is plain rude. Which is against the rules. Why be rude? There's no need.

[Catzsy]

I sort of expected you to flame me..

Wouldn't be the first time would it?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - or has the freedom of speech been removed to?

I couldn't give a **** who she is, and yes i do, I dare.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion but then others are entitled to theirs.
If you cannot see that telling a member of the forum to leave is inappropriate
then there is not much more that I can say. If you don't want to post in the appropriate section to have the warning reviewed again there is nothing else I can say.

I have given you this link twice via pm but here it is again:

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=279102e

As far as I know also we have to put Forum Moderator on any correspondence
coming from the mod department. I don't put this on personal pms just to make the position clear to others who may think that I have indeed caught the 'power mad' disease.

File to get the warning reviewed and see what happens. :)

[Immenseman]

Dom, you're hardly presenting yourself in the best manner thus your thread won't be taken seriously. You have to remember that if anything is unfair it will be reversed. I complained about 3 of my infractions - one got reversed the other two stood. I accept that because I know the person who looked into it for me (MattGarner) looked at it, looked at the forum rules and decided they were fair.

Putting Forum Moderator at the end of a PM isn't bad. I did that when I was an AGM or RVM. Obviously only in PMs that were related to the job.

[xxMATTGxx]

First things first. The rules don't need changing at all, they aren't strict like they used to be. I find them quite relaxed and the majority people follow them and understand them with ease. They also know if they break them, then they will get punished via the system. The rules are babyish? I don't think so. They could be a lot worse. You can't relate Habbo and HabboxForum all the time, we want a nice and friendly community where anyone is welcome where ever they come from, sexuality, religion and everything else.

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If you have a problem with any of the warnings or infraction you have received from the Moderators, then report it. They will be overlooked at by the Super Moderators or even the Forum Management.

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Regarding your signature:


"You have been warned for telling another member to leave" ~ How is that Insulting??

I'm not sure about insulting but that's rude towards the member. Telling someone to leave? That isn't friendly at all.


"You have been infracted for calling someone a fool" ~ Oh come off it. Never done that before

Offending/Insulting members by any type of name calling isn't allowed so why should "Fool" be?


"Please do not be rude to a forum user" ~ Yes. Of course - I forgot telling someone to shut up is bad..

Telling someone to shut up is rude and ignorant. I'm sure your parents wouldn't like it or if you work and your boss was telling you off. You wouldn't turn round and go "Shut up" Because you probably get fired.

[Recursion]

If im quite honest, I think the whole bunch of you just got bloody owned.

[PriceTags]

If im quite honest, I think the whole bunch of you just got bloody owned.

How did the whole bunch of us get owned? It was only Dom saying otherwise.

[Recursion]

How did the whole bunch of us get owned? It was only Dom saying otherwise.

Oh well, didn't read the whole thread LOL

[PriceTags]

Oh well, didn't read the whole thread LOL

One generally comments on a thread because they have something constructive to add after reading it. It's not really that funny...

[AgnesIO]

I think the question you need to answer is why do you want to be able to call people a fool, ask them to leave or tell them to shut up anyway? There just doesn't seem to be any point to it.

The fact is if I said 'Please keep your opinion out of this.' I wouldn't get infracted, yet if I say 'Shut Up' - which I will point out now is the SAME thing I would?


First things first. The rules don't need changing at all, they aren't strict like they used to be. I find them quite relaxed and the majority people follow them and understand them with ease. They also know if they break them, then they will get punished via the system. The rules are babyish? I don't think so. They could be a lot worse. You can't relate Habbo and HabboxForum all the time, we want a nice and friendly community where anyone is welcome where ever they come from, sexuality, religion and everything else.

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If you have a problem with any of the warnings or infraction you have received from the Moderators, then report it. They will be overlooked at by the Super Moderators or even the Forum Management.

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Regarding your signature:


"You have been warned for telling another member to leave" ~ How is that Insulting??

I'm not sure about insulting but that's rude towards the member. Telling someone to leave? That isn't friendly at all.


"You have been infracted for calling someone a fool" ~ Oh come off it. Never done that before

Offending/Insulting members by any type of name calling isn't allowed so why should "Fool" be?


"Please do not be rude to a forum user" ~ Yes. Of course - I forgot telling someone to shut up is bad..

Telling someone to shut up is rude and ignorant. I'm sure your parents wouldn't like it or if you work and your boss was telling you off. You wouldn't turn round and go "Shut up" Because you probably get fired.

But Matt, you see the thing is I told someone to leave BECAUSE they said 'This forum is full of immature kids' - so basically I was just following what they said giving them advice that if they don't like it to leave?


One generally comments on a thread because they have something constructive to add after reading it. It's not really that funny...


See all you do is pick a fight, In fairness to Tawm he actually didn't realise so he has apoligised :l

[PriceTags]

The fact is if I said 'Please keep your opinion out of this.' I wouldn't get infracted, yet if I say 'Shut Up' - which I will point out now is the SAME thing I would?

It may well be the same thing, but it's not friendly. It can just make things worse, but telling people to keep their opinions out of it would raise the question you raised earlier "has freedom of speech been banned?"


See all you do is pick a fight, In fairness to Tawm he actually didn't realise so he has apoligised :l

Why would you comment without reading the thread anyway?

[dirrty]

So is all of this just over a warning which you received from Catzsy? If so, then just report it. Thats the only solution if you feel its unfair.

[Catzsy]

So is all of this just over a warning which you received from Catzsy? If so, then just report it. Thats the only solution if you feel its unfair.

I am very happy for any of the Super Mods, AFM, or FM to look at the warning and give their totally honest opinion on it even if Dom doesn't report it and happily accept their decision whether it is reversed or not.
I feel it was the right decision but am quite open to a different decision if that's the case. As I have said before I target what I perceive to be the rule breaking, not the person.

[AgnesIO]

I am very happy for any of the Super Mods, AFM, or FM to look at the warning and give their totally honest opinion on it even if Dom doesn't report it and happily accept their decision whether it is reversed or not.
I feel it was the right decision but am quite open to a different decision if that's the case. As I have said before I target what I perceive to be the rule breaking, not the person.

I have now appealed them, as surely not even you Catzy can still feel that telling someone to leave (Who i have now made up with), for tellnig hi mto leave, when he actually said that 'This sums up most the forum' (Basically saying the whole forum are immature kids) - so I was just saying if you don't like the forum, why don't you leave :P

But anyway it wasn't all over that warning, it was just because the rules inforced on this forum, are what you get in nurserys - not a TEENAGER forum, I repeat TEENAGER.


So is all of this just over a warning which you received from Catzsy? If so, then just report it. Thats the only solution if you feel its unfair.

Na, the thread was actually made over the fact that no one on the forum is allowed the freedom of speech. You could tell someone to leave the forum, three times - no matter what they have done - and get infracted? Im sorry but that is plain ridiculous.

[Catzsy]

[QUOTE=Dom C;5824076]I have now appealed them, as surely not even you Catzy can still feel that telling someone to leave (Who i have now made up with), for tellnig hi mto leave, when he actually said that 'This sums up most the forum' (Basically saying the whole forum are immature kids) - so I was just saying if you don't like the forum, why don't you leave :P

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No I stand by my decision but I am glad you have made up with the person.
But as I said the best way is to appeal the decision and I am happy you have done that and to accept what decision is made. We all learn things every day and mods are no exception to the rule.

[lick]

i did not read any posts lol soz, but im guessing you made this because you got infractions or warinings? thats what the report thread is for you dont need to make a thread then go against your word when you find out you can report them

[nvrspk4]

75% so far - rules need to be changed?

This thread is fatally flawed in my opinion because it attempts to rigidly link age levels to maturity levels and base rules off of the general age of the forums. It is, once again, fatally flawed to assume that people mature emotionally at a certain age.

I don't believe the results of the poll will have any effect really on any changes in forum rules. I think the forum rules which you argued against are extremely necessary to keep the forum a positive environment, because even those who consider themselves mature are entirely capable of turning a thread negative or making the forum a less fun place to be.


I sort of expected you to flame me..

Wouldn't be the first time would it?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - or has the freedom of speech been removed to?

I couldn't give a **** who she is, and yes i do, I dare.

Case in point.


I have now appealed them, as surely not even you Catzy can still feel that telling someone to leave (Who i have now made up with), for tellnig hi mto leave, when he actually said that 'This sums up most the forum' (Basically saying the whole forum are immature kids) - so I was just saying if you don't like the forum, why don't you leave :P

But anyway it wasn't all over that warning, it was just because the rules inforced on this forum, are what you get in nurserys - not a TEENAGER forum, I repeat TEENAGER.

Last time I checked we don't enforce naptime :eusa_whis



Na, the thread was actually made over the fact that no one on the forum is allowed the freedom of speech. You could tell someone to leave the forum, three times - no matter what they have done - and get infracted? Im sorry but that is plain ridiculous.

Anyone who's been around for a bit may remember a thread a few months back where we all basically came to the conclusion that free speech doesn't exist at all and any public or private entity from school to a business will absolutely restrict your freedom of speech to some degree and is entirely entitled to do so.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=503646&highlight=freedom+of+speech (found it)


On a side note, I have worked for Habbox for something like four or five years now and I believe I hold the record for longest time as a member of moderation staff and definitely do if we count administration as that (technically Jin is tied with me). I have to say that Catzsy is without a doubt one of the best moderators to work for Habbox, so I completely disagree with your statement that she is a bad mod or powerhungry. And, with all due respect I am much more qualified to give an opinion on that than you are given the amount of information and time I have seen her operate over while you are judging based on a few infractions.

[AgnesIO]

Decided I might aswell keep getting warnings - clearly they cmean nothing..

I went four months without getting one, but you don't actually get anything for keeping a clean slate.

Time to test mod's me thinks.

[xxMATTGxx]

Decided I might aswell keep getting warnings - clearly they cmean nothing..

I went four months without getting one, but you don't actually get anything for keeping a clean slate.

Time to test mod's me thinks.

Time to test the mods? So you just told us all that your going to go around rule breaking for the fun of it. :rolleyes:

[AgnesIO]

Time to test the mods? So you just told us all that your going to go around rule breaking for the fun of it. :rolleyes:


I won't purposely do it no, but the fact that even when I took a clean slate for four months, you don't get anything out of it - so I don't see why I should act like a little angel.

[xxMATTGxx]

I won't purposely do it no, but the fact that even when I took a clean slate for four months, you don't get anything out of it - so I don't see why I should act like a little angel.

I'm sorry but I not been on one forum that give out prizes for having a clean record or even being an "angel". There is no need, we are a community and we try to have a nice and friendly environment. That's why there are rules in place to keep it all in order and make the forum a nice place to be. I don't see why users should start getting prizes or whatever for following the rules.

[AgnesIO]

I'm sorry but I not been on one forum that give out prizes for having a clean record or even being an "angel". There is no need, we are a community and we try to have a nice and friendly environment. That's why there are rules in place to keep it all in order and make the forum a nice place to be. I don't see why users should start getting prizes or whatever for following the rules.


Well you can have a go at people for doing things wrong - but you don't get anything for actually not doing things wrong?

Its just an idea :rolleyes:

[Sammeth.]

Since when do you need a medal for acting your age?

[xxMATTGxx]

Well you can have a go at people for doing things wrong - but you don't get anything for actually not doing things wrong?

Its just an idea :rolleyes:

Having a go at people who do thing wrong is quite normal. There are rules into place that users should follow and if they don't, they will know what will happen with the system we currently have. That's like saying in the United Kingdom, if you don't break any laws or have a criminal reward we should get some sort of prize? We will see about the idea. But I'm not a huge fan of it.

[AgnesIO]

Having a go at people who do thing wrong is quite normal. There are rules into place that users should follow and if they don't, they will know what will happen with the system we currently have. That's like saying in the United Kingdom, if you don't break any laws or have a criminal reward we should get some sort of prize? We will see about the idea. But I'm not a huge fan of it.


As said in my other thread I know what you mean by the law thing, but at a work place if you work well you get promoted, if you work badly you get fired.

Also if we are gonig to go by the **** law in the UK, then I thnk I should be rewarded - since people in jail get things for free - does that mean I do to? No it doesn't - we don't have to work like the crap goverment.

;)

[iAdam]

As said in my other thread I know what you mean by the law thing, but at a work place if you work well you get promoted, if you work badly you get fired.

Also if we are gonig to go by the **** law in the UK, then I thnk I should be rewarded - since people in jail get things for free - does that mean I do to? No it doesn't - we don't have to work like the crap goverment.

;)

And since when is habboxforum, where you pointed out most members are still under seventeen, a workplace?

[PriceTags]

Decided I might aswell keep getting warnings - clearly they cmean nothing..

I went four months without getting one, but you don't actually get anything for keeping a clean slate.

Time to test mod's me thinks.

Fabulous people do win Member of the Month, which is sort of a something for being good, but I've not had a single warning or infraction and I don't expect any rewards for it. Sam's point is completely right.

[Mint]

Fabulous people do win Member of the Month, which is sort of a something for being good, but I've not had a single warning or infraction and I don't expect any rewards for it. Sam's point is completely right.

Yes you do! +rep :P You are right about member of the month. It rewards members that do by post by the rules.

[Hecktix]

I actually bothered to read through this thread, although I could see where it was going from the start. It was evident the silly children complaining 'cause they can't abide by the rules were going to get owned by the damn good forum management team we have here.

What I find incredibly interesting in the posts before Matt & Nvr intervened, is that naturally there are two sides of the arguement. However... both sides are coming from people who clearly do break rules.

The thread creater clearly has a problem with getting too many warnings/infractions, however the counter arguements are presented by people such as Immenseman & buttons - who have been known to break rules and accept their punishment. So I think this thread is about maturity.. people who can accept the discipline and people who clearly cannot.

At the end of the day the forum rules & disciplinary procedures have changed radically since certain changes in the management structure.

For a start, you would used to get infractions/warnings instantly, now you get a friendly PM & usernote warning, so clearly if you're getting infractions you are ignoring the mods in the first place.

I've been known in the past for causing trouble on this forum & I returned in February. I've had several PM reminders about the rules, which I have listened to therefore not recieved any infractions. It's not hard is it?

Stop complaining, to use your own line my friend, if you don't like the rules, then simply leave the forum to avoid upsetting yourself even more at your distaste in the rules.

[Immenseman]

The thread creater clearly has a problem with getting too many warnings/infractions, however the counter arguements are presented by people such as Immenseman & buttons - who have been known to break rules and accept their punishment. So I think this thread is about maturity.. people who can accept the discipline and people who clearly cannot.

me, breaking rules?! :lol:

dom, it's ironic that you base your whole argument around maturity and then you show how immature you are in this thread. "I AV BEEN GD AND DNT GET NEFIN NOW IM GNA BE BAD TO TEST DA MODZ, LUL"

along those lines anyway.

[FlyingJesus]

Decided I might aswell keep getting warnings - clearly they cmean nothing..

I went four months without getting one, but you don't actually get anything for keeping a clean slate.

Time to test mod's me thinks.

What you get is the clean slate. Membership of a community is not generally a reward scheme, more likely it'll move backwards - you start with all of your freedoms and get them taken away if you abuse them. That in itself should be motive to behave yourself and not kick off every time something doesn't go your way.


Fabulous people do win Member of the Month

Well I dunno about that..


I've not had a single warning or infraction and I don't expect any rewards for it.

And quite rightly so.

We shouldn't be looking out to gain anything and the staff shouldn't have to dish anything out just for doing as we should. This thread seems to be nothing more than a personal crusade masked as a community suggestion

[AgnesIO]

I actually bothered to read through this thread, although I could see where it was going from the start. It was evident the silly children complaining 'cause they can't abide by the rules were going to get owned by the damn good forum management team we have here.

What I find incredibly interesting in the posts before Matt & Nvr intervened, is that naturally there are two sides of the arguement. However... both sides are coming from people who clearly do break rules.

The thread creater clearly has a problem with getting too many warnings/infractions, however the counter arguements are presented by people such as Immenseman & buttons - who have been known to break rules and accept their punishment. So I think this thread is about maturity.. people who can accept the discipline and people who clearly cannot.

At the end of the day the forum rules & disciplinary procedures have changed radically since certain changes in the management structure.

For a start, you would used to get infractions/warnings instantly, now you get a friendly PM & usernote warning, so clearly if you're getting infractions you are ignoring the mods in the first place.

I've been known in the past for causing trouble on this forum & I returned in February. I've had several PM reminders about the rules, which I have listened to therefore not recieved any infractions. It's not hard is it?

Stop complaining, to use your own line my friend, if you don't like the rules, then simply leave the forum to avoid upsetting yourself even more at your distaste in the rules.


I would just like to point out I am not actually normally one to get infractions and warning - just I have got a few lately. I have talked to people about it, and its not so much that i get them, its I hate having them there for two months LOL

[Mint]

I would just like to point out I am not actually normally one to get infractions and warning - just I have got a few lately. I have talked to people about it, and its not so much that i get them, its I hate having them there for two months LOL

So do I, so does everyone. It's all part and parcel of the punishment. There's no point in having an infraction if you/admins don't know that you have it.