GB Olympic Football Team.

[Wolverhampton]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/8072981.stm

A deal is imminent, what a surprise! it's gonna' be us English representing the rest of GB! just like normal though really, eh?

How are the Scottish and Welsh going to be feeling about this? (not like any of their players would make the team anyway but you know.)

Will you b supporting the GB football team?

Thoughts?

EDIT: Also yes I will be supporting them as, as much as I am proud to be English, I am also just as proud to be British, believe it or not. :)

[Janczyk]

I'm not proud to be British; much like the Scottish aren't because they want independence. Northern Ireland are alright and Wales can be alright but the Scottish are ***** when it comes to things like this.

I thought we couldn't have a team anyway because we have to have a GB team registered with FIFA if so?

[Wolverhampton]

Fifa are going to allow it, they were going to allow it with ALL GB players, but Scotland and Wales wouldn't agree to letting their players being included in the team. So it's gonna' be an all English GB team.

[Janczyk]

What Scottish and Welsh players would get in anyway? I see a place, maybe, for Craig Gordon - that's all.

[CJW93]

I;m not British, I am English

[Wolverhampton]

Don't all the football teams in the Olympics have to have like 3 players over 24 in the starting team? and the rest have to be under 24? or something stupid like that.

I'm English first and fall-most, but I am also British, and so is MOST of this forum. That is not an opinion, that is a FACT, although somewhere along in this discussion someone will disagree with me.

[Janczyk]

Under 23's with 3 over-age players - I think.

I am English.

[Wolverhampton]

We're both?

[Janczyk]

Not really.

In technicality, we're all British. But I class myself as English. If there's a form I need to fill in and it asks ethnicity - there's always a box saying White British but I put a tick in other and fill in 'White English'. I'm proud to be English, not British.

[Wolverhampton]

Can I ask why you're not proud to be British?

There must be reasons?

[Blinger1]

Can I ask why you're not proud to be British?

There must be reasons?
I say I am Aussie when my family is Swiss, nothing against the Swiss its just I feel like I am an Aussie. ;)

[Wolverhampton]

That's totally irrelevant to this discussion thought. :P

[CJW93]

Britain is England Scotland Wales.
I am English and not from any other country so I don't class myself as a brit

[Wolverhampton]

Just read on BBC news, there is the European Championships that year. (2012)

I can see this causing some big arguments... :/

[Andys]

Bale and Belleamy might have got on the bench? :lol:
Keane would of got in the team.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I count myself as from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and not the non-existant states such as the Kingdom of England, Kingdom of Scotland and Kingdom of Wales all of which haven't existed since the 1800's. I don't see why we should let scottish nationalists ruin the United Kingdom which was the first global power in the world, and created the modern world with its Empire which spanned the globe.

I will be supporting them of course, still doesn't change my mind over the Olympics as I consider them a total waste of money. I'd rather see the British Flag than any English, Welsh, Irish or Scottish flag, thats for sure. :)

[Geraint]

Right now, this topic was brought up by myself a while ago and for it I was slated. In it I stated that this team GB would affect our status as single countries but, at the time, Mr Blatter said that it wouldn't. And what has he said now - "It will". We've played as single countries since now and why the hell shouldn't we continue.

You sure this team is going to be all English? Take it you haven't seen the crop of youngsters coming through the Welsh ranks.

[Wolverhampton]

Hmm, talk about a history and geography lecture, lol.

Can I ask why you do not support the Olympics? I agree that it costs a lot of money, but it will rejuvenate the west end/east end (can't remember where it's located now, lol@me) - it has created 10's of 1000's of jobs, and nothing will make me (and I'm sure the rest of the GB) more proud to be British than seeing a state of the art, world class Olympic village and facilities, and showing off our dominance of the sporting world and also showing off our wealth and love for sport. (**** America.) More so nothing would make me more proud to see out great sporting athletes of all sports and backgrounds, being crowned Olympic champions in their respected sports, in the world class sporting facilities that we are going to be providing, and nothing will make me more proud than seeing our winning athletes, draped in the union jack, to the sounds of our national anthem, all in BRITAIN.

I cannot wait for the Olympics, gonna be awesome.

BTW Garient, if you'd seen the BBC news article, it has to be all ENGLISH as your nation (and Scotland ect) would be compromised if Mr. ******** Blatter wanted us all to play as team GB. I advise you read the article lol, I agree some Welsh talent would be in the team, if your nations were allowed to take part in the GB team, but your not.

[Geraint]

football shouldn't even be in the Olympics.

[Wolverhampton]

That's a different debate all together really. If that's the case also, there shouldn't be a confederations cup?

[Janczyk]

Can I ask why you're not proud to be British?

There must be reasons?

Great Britain isn't a country. England is a country. I am from the country of England.

If you ask any Scottish person whether they're British; they'll say they're Scottish, not British. It's arrogance. I share that feeling to be honest though. Great Britian isn't a country so how can we be that nationality? I don't own a British flag - I own an English flag. I am from England.

[Browney]

You sure this team is going to be all English? Take it you haven't seen the crop of youngsters coming through the Welsh ranks.

Ramsey and Collison :eusa_clap

Who'd be in the squad though? I guess it's abit early to guess. Even the players now who we consider to be good but young like Joe Hart, Campbell and Mancienne will be too old by the time comes...

[Geraint]

That's a different debate all together really. If that's the case also, there shouldn't be a confederations cup?

why not? the confederations cup is for the winners of European Championships, African Cup of Nations etc.

[Wolverhampton]

That's told me, I always thought the confederations cup was the same sort of set-up as the Olympic football tournament, nvm. :P

[JackBuddy]

What Scottish and Welsh players would get in anyway? I see a place, maybe, for Craig Gordon - that's all.
Gunter, Bale, Ramsey, Collison.

A bit naive of you to say that... but I find it pathetic that every country apart from England thinks that it will lead to a combined british football term permanently.

[Geraint]

Gunter, Bale, Ramsey, Collison.

A bit naive of you to say that... but I find it pathetic that every country apart from England thinks that it will lead to a combined british football term permanently.

Sepp Blatter even said it will.

[JackBuddy]

Sepp Blatter even said it will.
There's no contract that says that the teams permanently has to sign. England wants to have an independant footballing body just as much as another other British country.

@Browney, possibly players like Jonjo Shelvey, John Bostock etc

[Wolverhampton]

I thought Sepp Blatter was quoted not long ago saying that a GB team would be ok for a one off occasion?

[Cixso]

I won't be supporting team GB either way.

Football has it's own major sport federations. Why do we need to play football in the Olympics?

Leave it as the world cup etc.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Hmm, talk about a history and geography lecture, lol.

Can I ask why you do not support the Olympics? I agree that it costs a lot of money, but it will rejuvenate the west end/east end (can't remember where it's located now, lol@me) - it has created 10's of 1000's of jobs, and nothing will make me (and I'm sure the rest of the GB) more proud to be British than seeing a state of the art, world class Olympic village and facilities, and showing off our dominance of the sporting world and also showing off our wealth and love for sport. (**** America.) More so nothing would make me more proud to see out great sporting athletes of all sports and backgrounds, being crowned Olympic champions in their respected sports, in the world class sporting facilities that we are going to be providing, and nothing will make me more proud than seeing our winning athletes, draped in the union jack, to the sounds of our national anthem, all in BRITAIN.

How can I put this in a simple way.


These jobs that are being created will not be sustainable jobs and will not exist after the Olympics are held.
The stadium is no use to the vast majority of the people in this country.
The Olympics don't interest a lot of people at all in this country.
The taxpayers of this country don't want their money wasted on a tacky event which lasts for around two weeks.
The amount of money being used is not justifiable to spend on a sporting event.
This country is in debt and doesn't need more debt.
The budget has gone overboard, what was promised to be a budget of around one or two billion has gone to 12 billion and will not doubt go higher, not including the costs of security surrounding the games.
The stadium after use will not be used, and don't pretend it will be. Just take a look at Athens and the countless other games which are now falling down.
At a cost of around twelve billion these Olympics are costing more than half the cost of a new Trident system which I, and anyone with any common sense realise is far more important than a two week sporting event.
The chances of a terrorist attack occuring around the time of the game is vastly higher and will most likely occur.
Your promoting this as some multi-cultural event which will see us at the top of the world, when most people don't actually care about the Olympics. Your apparent hate towards America has nothing to do with the games, or perhaps it has, maybe your jealous of America winning so much all the time - if that is the case then what kind of 'Olympic spirit' is that?

If the government want to promote sporting then why don't they invest in new swimming pools and facilities in schools, that will reach a heck of a lot more people rather than a small minority of people in East London, London, the capital of this country which already has a oversized budget compared to the rest of the country.

I have a good idea, how about all the people who actually want the Olympics can pay for it themselves, along with this Labour government who seem very keen to spend our money on their useless and waste-of-time projects.

When we haven't got people dying on the NHS because their local trust can't afford certain drugs to lengthen their livespan, then and only then maybe i'd consider spending money on tatty, two week games.


Great Britain isn't a country. England is a country. I am from the country of England.

If you ask any Scottish person whether they're British; they'll say they're Scottish, not British. It's arrogance. I share that feeling to be honest though. Great Britian isn't a country so how can we be that nationality? I don't own a British flag - I own an English flag. I am from England.

Great Britain isn't a country and neither is England. The Kingdom of England as stated above, does no longer exist. You have never lived in a state called England - technically, as that state and the Kingdom of Scotland and so on all combined in the 1880's and before, to form Great Britain and later on the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and then when Irish independance was granted the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

I'm proud to be British and English, and I won't let some scottish nationalists ruin this great nation, which built the world as we know it.

[Loser]

What Scottish and Welsh players would get in anyway? I see a place, maybe, for Craig Gordon - that's all.

Ramsey would, probably alot more from Wales aswell (considerring the Olympics is in 2012, and most our national side are about 19/20)

[Catzsy]

Oops it's me:P I don't understand the Welsh and Scot's attitude on this at all. The Lions Rugby Union team are from all the home rugby nations and it has never effected the individual rugby side from the different nations so why should it effect the home nation football teams. They have really missed an opportunity I feel to raise the game's profile, particuarly in Wales where Rugby is King.

I am english but have lived in Wales a long time and I do see myself as British.

[Wolverhampton]

How can I put this in a simple way.


These jobs that are being created will not be sustainable jobs and will not exist after the Olympics are held.
The stadium is no use to the vast majority of the people in this country.
The Olympics don't interest a lot of people at all in this country.
The taxpayers of this country don't want their money wasted on a tacky event which lasts for around two weeks.
The amount of money being used is not justifiable to spend on a sporting event.
This country is in debt and doesn't need more debt.
The budget has gone overboard, what was promised to be a budget of around one or two billion has gone to 12 billion and will not doubt go higher, not including the costs of security surrounding the games.
The stadium after use will not be used, and don't pretend it will be. Just take a look at Athens and the countless other games which are now falling down.
At a cost of around twelve billion these Olympics are costing more than half the cost of a new Trident system which I, and anyone with any common sense realise is far more important than a two week sporting event.
The chances of a terrorist attack occuring around the time of the game is vastly higher and will most likely occur.
Your promoting this as some multi-cultural event which will see us at the top of the world, when most people don't actually care about the Olympics. Your apparent hate towards America has nothing to do with the games, or perhaps it has, maybe your jealous of America winning so much all the time - if that is the case then what kind of 'Olympic spirit' is that?

If the government want to promote sporting then why don't they invest in new swimming pools and facilities in schools, that will reach a heck of a lot more people rather than a small minority of people in East London, London, the capital of this country which already has a oversized budget compared to the rest of the country.

I have a good idea, how about all the people who actually want the Olympics can pay for it themselves, along with this Labour government who seem very keen to spend our money on their useless and waste-of-time projects.

When we haven't got people dying on the NHS because their local trust can't afford certain drugs to lengthen their livespan, then and only then maybe i'd consider spending money on tatty, two week games.



Great Britain isn't a country and neither is England. The Kingdom of England as stated above, does no longer exist. You have never lived in a state called England - technically, as that state and the Kingdom of Scotland and so on all combined in the 1880's and before, to form Great Britain and later on the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and then when Irish independance was granted the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

I'm proud to be British and English, and I won't let some scottish nationalists ruin this great nation, which built the world as we know it.

This was a footballing debate. Not a politics debate, I really do hope you grow up to be a politician... you really do have the knowledge to be involved in it.

TBH, some of your post is flawed, but due to the vast size of it I really cannot be bothered picking out all the flawed comments.

Although you have vast politics knowledge, you really haven't got a fiddle when it comes to talking about sports? The Olympics, the biggest sports event in the world, if not the biggest event of any kind in the world? which is actually a 3-4 week event, this waste-of-time project is going to earn our country billions of profit on top of what we have already spent funding the Olympic games (£7BN), and you think all of this isn't going to benefit our country, just because it's held in our capital? please could you really see it being held in our second City, Birmingham? give it a break.

That's the only flaw I can be bothered to pick out as the rest is truly an essay.


Oops it's me I don't understand the Welsh and Scot's attitude on this at all. The Lions Rugby Union team are from all the home rugby nations and it has never effected the individual rugby side from the different nations so why should it effect the home nation football teams. They have really missed an opportunity I feel to raise the game's profile, particuarly in Wales where Rugby is King.

I am english but have lived in Wales a long time and I do see myself as British.

Another one of my amazing threads, eh? :P

Do agree with you also.

[-:Undertaker:-]

This was a footballing debate. Not a politics debate, I really do hope you grow up to be a politician...

TBH, some of your post is flawed, but due to the vast size of it I really cannot be bothered picking out all the flawed comments.

It is indeed a sporting debate, however due to the closeness of politics and football in this case, considering you asked me why I don't support the Olympics then there was your answer. :)

The only flawed part I have just spotted myself, the fact I didn't mention Great Britain as a Kingdom which it was. To say something is majorly flawed and not mention why, means your side is even more flawed.

As for you stating the games will give us a profit, please provide evidence of past games profit outweighing their original cost, so that the host country made a profit.

[Geraint]

Oops it's me:P I don't understand the Welsh and Scot's attitude on this at all. The Lions Rugby Union team are from all the home rugby nations and it has never effected the individual rugby side from the different nations so why should it effect the home nation football teams. They have really missed an opportunity I feel to raise the game's profile, particuarly in Wales where Rugby is King.

I am english but have lived in Wales a long time and I do see myself as British.

because there's about 20 different unions in rugby and there's around 200 football associations. There's pressure coming in from other countries - African countries and FIFA's vice-president Jack Warner. The FAW want to preserve their youngsters status. Yes, maybe they are ruining some players chances of playing at the Olympics but in doing so, they're saving a load of others if team GB becomes permanent.

[-:Undertaker:-]

This was a footballing debate. Not a politics debate, I really do hope you grow up to be a politician...

TBH, some of your post is flawed, but due to the vast size of it I really cannot be bothered picking out all the flawed comments.

Although you have vast politics knowledge, you really haven't got a fiddle when it comes to talking about sports? The Olympics, the biggest sports event in the world, if not the biggest event of any kind in the world? which is actually a 3-4 week event, this waste-of-time project is going to earn our country billions of profit on top of what we have already spent funding the Olympic games (£7BN), and you think all of this isn't going to benefit our country, just because it's held in our capital? please could you really see it being held in our second City, Birmingham? give it a break.

That's the only flaw I can be bothered to pick out as the rest is truly an essay.

Then it will not benefit the country as a whole, how about London based taxpayers funding the bill and not the rest of the country?

[Wolverhampton]

You deserve a place in the house of commons, how your debates are structured are just like that of what I hear every so often on Sky News.

You really don't get it, and as you are a Conservative lover, I bet your life is to upper-class, to busy and to great for having any time for any sort of sports, rite?

[champions]

walofs

who honesty cares about a british olympic team? not me

united >>>>>>> british olympic team

[Wolverhampton]

walofs

who honesty cares about a british olympic team? not me

united >>>>>>> british olympic team

Do you support England?

[Jam]

I do believe some team (West Ham, I think) is trying to get permission to use the stadium afterwards, but I still agree with Dan about how unessicary they are for us, and no way in hell will 'we' make a profit from 2012.

[-:Undertaker:-]

You deserve a place in the house of commons, how your debates are structured are just like that of what I hear every so often on Sky News.

You really don't get it, and as you are a Conservative lover, I bet your life is to upper-class, to busy and to great for having any time for any sort of sports, rite?

Actually I am from Liverpool, apparently one of the poorest cities in the country and within Europe. I, supporting the Conservative Party has nothing to do with this discussion and I have no idea why you brought that in.

I'm not a sporty person and even if I was, it still wouldn't justify spending billions on some games which most people don't care about and when the NHS and so many other services are under-funded.

I do get it, because if I didn't get it you would of replied to my answer on why the Olympics shouldn't be held, maybe we could turn that statement around in your direction.

[Wolverhampton]

We won't personally obviously, the Government will, but eh, that's something completely different, **** knows what they would spend it on. :P

I'm fed up of having a Scot as our PM now, although I can't stand Cameron, so we're all ******.


Actually I am from Liverpool, apparently one of the poorest cities in the country and within Europe. I, supporting the Conservative Party has nothing to do with this discussion and I have no idea why you brought that in.

I'm not a sporty person and even if I was, it still wouldn't justify spending billions on some games which most people don't care about and when the NHS and so many other services are under-funded.

I do get it, because if I didn't get it you would of replied to my answer on why the Olympics shouldn't be held, maybe we could turn that statement around in your direction.


Just look at the pole results, it's practically the same as asking, "do you support the Olympics being in this country" and it's an overwhelming yes.

The Olympics will leave a huge legacy for our youngsters, it will encourage them to get off their arses, get exercising, and it wll motivate them into being anything that they want themselves to be.

[Jam]

walofs

who honesty cares about a british olympic team? not me

united >>>>>>> british olympic team

So that's what?

Ferdinand
Evans
Rooney
Scholes (Int Ret. so doesn't count)

Good team.


We won't personally obviously, the Government will, but eh, that's something completely different, **** knows what they would spend it on. :P

I'm fed up of having a Scot as our PM now, although I can't stand Cameron, so we're all ******.

Your fed up of him because he's scottish? Christ. Labour as a whole is screwed and Lib Dems don't have a hope in hell, so unless you get to like Cameron then your going to have a 'bad' 8 years or whatever the two terms get to.

[Wolverhampton]

BNP or UKIP all the way.

Good night all. Happy to carry on this debate in the morning, lads and ladies. (Y)

Cyaaaa.

[-:Undertaker:-]

We won't personally obviously, the Government will, but eh, that's something completely different, **** knows what they would spend it on. :P

I'm fed up of having a Scot as our PM now, although I can't stand Cameron, so we're all ******.

Just look at the pole results, it's practically the same as asking, "do you support the Olympics being in this country" and it's an overwhelming yes.

The Olympics will leave a huge legacy for our youngsters, it will encourage them to get off their arses, get exercising, and it wll motivate them into being anything that they want themselves to be.

I have seen no poll results asking whos in support of the Olympics or not, maybe children and teenagers like ourselves will be in support but i'm afraid if you ask any normal taxpayer on the street, who are the electorate, i'm pretty sure the line they take is no.

The Olympics will leave a legacy of adding onto our debt, a potential terrorist attack, major infastruture problems which will occur regardless of any plans to modernise train/road systems - they will experience problems, I can gurantee it.

The other legacy will be a large stadium which will, like most modern architecture, become an ugly blot on the landscape within ten years. Not only that, but the taxpayer will still have to pay to look after this stadium even though the chances are it will not be used at all.

If you want a sporting legacy, how about my other suggestion and a suggestion which makes the most basic of common sense - build more pools/improve sporting facilities. Your acting as if we are heading for a sporting revolution, its in your dreams, it will not happen.

Certain people like sports, certain people don't, i'm pretty sure by 2010 after just under 20 years on this planet, and witness to two Olympics in my memory, I will not all of a sudden pull on my wetsuit and start playing football.

Your living the Olympic fairytale which this government has painted.

[Jack.Lfc]

walofs

who honesty cares about a british olympic team? not me


I agree with you on this one. I'd rather Liverpool won the carling cup, than england or olympic win anything.

[Browney]

There's no contract that says that the teams permanently has to sign. England wants to have an independant footballing body just as much as another other British country.

@Browney, possibly players like Jonjo Shelvey, John Bostock etc

Welbeck maybe? I know he'd be young enough.


So that's what?

Ferdinand
Evans
Rooney
Scholes (Int Ret. so doesn't count)

Good team.

And Carrick, Neville, Welbeck and Campbell (U21), Wes Brown, Hargreaves (if ever fit) for England. And Evans is Irish so I dunno what your on about. :S

[Jam]

BNP or UKIP all the way.

Good night all. Happy to carry on this debate in the morning, lads and ladies. (Y)

Cyaaaa.

BNP: "We are not a racist party" yeahhh...

Did you watch Question Time? They both got slated even if the UKIP MP did speak some sence.

[JackBuddy]

I agree with you on this one. I'd rather Liverpool won the carling cup,
Oi! That's the best thing that happened to Spurs in years!

[Jam]

Oi! That's the only thing that happened to Spurs in years!

What it should have said.

[Oleh]

let me jump in for one second and say:

We will all benefit from this greatly, yes we will still have to pay increased taxes whatever, but the profit from the games will be spread around a bit and everywhere will get some gains

I wont post in here again, if you choose to argue my point, heck so be it but your fighting a stalemate.

[Wolverhampton]

Okay the 'politicians' of the Habbox Forum have turned this into a ******* debate on whether the Olympics should be here or not, so thanks for ruining it, and please do NOT bother posting in here again, you know who you are. Or else I will be forced to get a MOD to close the ******* thread.

TBH, just don't bother posting, carry on watching Question Time and the BBC Parliament channel, but please do NOT ruin and please do NOT continue to de-rail this thread...

[Catzsy]

because there's about 20 different unions in rugby and there's around 200 football associations. There's pressure coming in from other countries - African countries and FIFA's vice-president Jack Warner. The FAW want to preserve their youngsters status. Yes, maybe they are ruining some players chances of playing at the Olympics but in doing so, they're saving a load of others if team GB becomes permanent.

Well that's a fair comment. I didn't know that. From a purely emotive point of view I would just love to see a mixed team. :)

[Wolverhampton]

Yeah I agree Catzsy, it's a shame the other Nations aren't joining in with the one off team, but the problems all boils down to the **** head himself, Sepp Blatter.

[Geraint]

Blatter dislikes England, we all know that. When pressure comes in from other countries, he'll cave in and pretend that there was nothing he could do about.

Anyway, onto the debate about the Olympics spending. Personally, I think the Olympics are outrageous in the way they spend money. These Olympics are costing, what? £500m maybe more and Leyton Orient are going to end up playing in the new stadium. Great.

[-:Undertaker:-]

let me jump in for one second and say:

We will all benefit from this greatly, yes we will still have to pay increased taxes whatever, but the profit from the games will be spread around a bit and everywhere will get some gains

I wont post in here again, if you choose to argue my point, heck so be it but your fighting a stalemate.

Where is this massive income of profit appearing from?
You expect a few million tourists, or probably less, to spend the equivelent of twelve billion+ in this country?

You tell me what Liverpool is getting from this games, and something that will benefit the whole of Liverpool seeing as we paid for it, along with the countless other cities aorund the United Kingdom who are all paying increased taxes for something that only interests very few people.


Okay the 'politicians' of the Habbox Forum have turned this into a ******* debate on whether the Olympics should be here or not, so thanks for ruining it, and please do NOT bother posting in here again, you know who you are. Or else I will be forced to get a MOD to close the ******* thread.

TBH, just don't bother posting, carry on watching Question Time and the BBC Parliament channel, but please do NOT ruin and please do NOT continue to de-rail this thread...

Excuse me, you were the one who orginally asked me why I thought we shouldn't be holding the Olympics, you only have yourself to blame.

You asked for my reasons, I provided them, you claimed they were flawed and I asked how, you refused to give an answer.

[Catzsy]

Where is this massive income of profit appearing from?
You expect a few million tourists, or probably less, to spend the equivelent of twelve billion+ in this country?

You tell me what Liverpool is getting from this games, and something that will benefit the whole of Liverpool seeing as we paid for it, along with the countless other cities aorund the United Kingdom who are all paying increased taxes for something that only interests very few people.



Well it may not interest you but it does interest billions of people worldwide who will be tuning their tvs to see it. The revenues from the TV rights are going to be massive. I am not sure that you have fully researched the subject of funding. From where do you get the information that our taxes will be raised to fund this? Most of it comes from the Olympic Committee, Sponsorship, TV & Radio rights, advertising etc etc. Some will be lottery funded. I cannot see anywhere any mention of our taxes being increased for this purpose. Perhaps you will be able to enlighten me here. :P Also as this is a thread about the GB football team - they are using stadia UK wide so I doubt Anfield would not be included in that as well as the Millenium Stadium


It will be a great event and I am really looking forward to it.

[Wolverhampton]

Thank you for sticking up for me Catzsy. :):P

[luce]

i will be supporting them i think it's great that we finally have a team in there for 2012 and hopefully another medal on the table....(they better you OT lol)

[Soy]

Right, seeing as England accounts to about 84% of the population in the UK
it doesn't suprise me

[Mexel]

No offence to Scottish, but if they were involved, no i would not support them. This is because all they just want independence, thats fine. But if they were in the Team GB football team, they would only do it because they would have a chance of winning it with them, on themselves they would not beable to. On a Lee Evans DVD he says somthing funny about Scotland and independence somthing about them having there own money, thats completly off topic i know but its so funny, youtube it!

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well it may not interest you but it does interest billions of people worldwide who will be tuning their tvs to see it. The revenues from the TV rights are going to be massive. I am not sure that you have fully researched the subject of funding. From where do you get the information that our taxes will be raised to fund this? Most of it comes from the Olympic Committee, Sponsorship, TV & Radio rights, advertising etc etc. Some will be lottery funded. I cannot see anywhere any mention of our taxes being increased for this purpose. Perhaps you will be able to enlighten me here. :P Also as this is a thread about the GB football team - they are using stadia UK wide so I doubt Anfield would not be included in that as well as the Millenium Stadium


It will be a great event and I am really looking forward to it.

Taxes will be increased/diverted to fund this Olympic Games of course they will, this country does not have twelve billion plus laying around in a bank somewhere. The money goes to broadcasters, such as the BBC who we already fund and ITV which is a private company along with others. Therefore we will not be gaining that money back. You cannot possibly tell me that paying such an amount for a tacky sporting event when the country is in spiralling debt and people are being denied life-prolonging drugs that spending twelve billion and more is justifiable.

If it interests billions of people around the globe, then let them billions of people fund it.

If we can turn on the television to watch the games then thats great, just let it be held somewhere else and let another country pay for the games rather than hitting the taxpayer yet again in this country, espeically when most people actually couldn't care about the Olympics.


Thank you for sticking up for me Catzsy. :):P

Congratulations to Rosie, however she hasn't really stuck up for you as you refused to address my issues and refused to defend your side of the discussion.

[Wolverhampton]

You're just like a politician, always making a mockery of everything.

And I suppose you support all these MPs claiming expenses off us, yes?

[-:Undertaker:-]

You're just like a politician, always making a mockery of everything.

And I suppose you support all these MPs claiming expenses off us, yes?

The vast majority of Politicians enjoy wasting public money on schemes like the Olympics games, especially on the Labour side. The expenses scandel, I think they should be taken to court and face the same consquences normal citzens face if we 'forget' to tell the Inland revenue we are not disabled and so forth.

That has nothing to do with the Olympics anyway and you seem determined to keep diverting me.

[Wolverhampton]

Olympics is such a waste of money, rite? well £40M x 365 days = £14.6BN a year, just be in ''Europe'' - I think you argument is completely irrelevant really, when it will benefit our youth greatly, but you being the conservative that you are, fails to see this.

[Mikey]

No because only England are in the team and Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland aren't.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Olympics is such a waste of money, rite? well £40M x 365 days = £14.6BN a year, just be in ''Europe'' - I think you argument is completely irrelevant really, when it will benefit our youth greatly, but you being the conservative that you are, fails to see this.

The Olympics are a waste of money indeed and so is the European Union, that is exactly why I support UKIP firstly and support the Conservative Party secondly. As I have stated before, how will it benefit our youth, what would benefit our youth is building more public pools/making entry to public pools free or even improving existing sporting facilities, all of this would greatly benefit our youths sporting rather than a ugly stadium built in East London for profesional atheletes, at the cost of the taypayer.

[Wolverhampton]

You say; "how will it benefit out youth?" -

there's one thing money CANNOT buy, and that, my friend, is inspiration, whether you like it or not, The Olympics will be worth all the money that is being spent on it. It's going to leave a legacy for the youth of this country, but again you fail to see that, you really should join the Conservative party when you can, their tight, and don't like to spend money, god knows what this country would be like in this current economic climate would be if the Conservatives were in charge.

[-:Undertaker:-]

You say; "how will it benefit out youth?" -

there's one thing money CANNOT buy, and that, my friend, is inspiration, whether you like it or not, The Olympics will be worth all the money that is being spent on it. It's going to leave a legacy for the youth of this country, but again you fail to see that, you really should join the Conservative party when you can, their tight, and don't like to spend money, god knows what this country would be like in this current economic climate would be if the Conservatives were in charge.

Oh your so right, everyone under 18 in this country i'm sure will be running around in their wetsuit and playing football because of the Olympics - you either like sport or you don't.

Indeed, maybe if we had had a 'tight' Conservative Government in power we would have money now to deal with the current economic climate rather than going deeper and deeper into debt.

[Catzsy]

Taxes will be increased/diverted to fund this Olympic Games of course they will, this country does not have twelve billion plus laying around in a bank somewhere. The money goes to broadcasters, such as the BBC who we already fund and ITV which is a private company along with others. Therefore we will not be gaining that money back. You cannot possibly tell me that paying such an amount for a tacky sporting event when the country is in spiralling debt and people are being denied life-prolonging drugs that spending twelve billion and more is justifiable.

If it interests billions of people around the globe, then let them billions of people fund it.

If we can turn on the television to watch the games then thats great, just let it be held somewhere else and let another country pay for the games rather than hitting the taxpayer yet again in this country, espeically when most people actually couldn't care about the Olympics.



Sorry I think you are completely out of touch - against sweeping statements
saying that the people of Britain do not support the games and saying that it will cost the taxpayer 12 billion. What on earth is tacky about an Olympic Games? It is a chance for the world to get together and celebrate sport. It is a spectacular event IMO. You are entitled to your opinions, of course, but it seems you are trying to turn every thread on the forum possible into a party political broadcast.:P The bill also had all main party support.

Link:
http://www.london2012.com/news/archive/bid-phase/london-olympics-bill-announced-in-queens-speech.php

The facts are these - there is going to be an olympics in 2012 and there is going to be a GB football team which is what we are trying to discuss in this thread.

[alexxxxx]

yeah i can't wait!

[Wolverhampton]

Sorry I think you are completely out of touch - against sweeping statements
saying that the people of Britain do not support the games and saying that it will cost the taxpayer 12 billion. What on earth is tacky about an Olympic Games? It is a chance for the world to get together and celebrate sport. It is a spectacular event IMO. You are entitled to your opinions, of course, but it seems you are trying to turn every thread on the forum possible into a party political broadcast.:P The bill also had all main party support.

Link:
http://www.london2012.com/news/archive/bid-phase/london-olympics-bill-announced-in-queens-speech.php

The facts are these - there is going to be an olympics in 2012 and there is going to be a GB football team which is what we are trying to discuss in this thread.

Couldn't agree with you more TBH, great post.

[Wolverhampton]

I will not let this thread die!

debate boys and girls. :)