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[Tintinnabulate]

West Indies 172 for 3 (Gayle 88, Fletcher 53) beat Australia 169 for 7 (Warner 63, David Hussey 27, Bravo 2-31) by seven wickets

They now face Sri Lanka in a must-win match. If they lose, they will be knocked out of the tournament.

I am sure they won't care as their excuse two years ago was that "T20 is pointless" after losing in the 2007 T20 world cup.



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[Blinger1]

I think we will try, but if we lose we will make up some ******** excuse like "it doesn't matter"... and then keep training for the Ashes (nothing is better then smashing England, lol).

Australia only seem to play good when its an important match, i.e, if we were to lose the number 1 world ranking..

[Browney]

difficult opponents for Australia though... atleast they lost to a decent side. :eusa_whis

[luce]

Yeah England are in the same situation so yano :)

[Tintinnabulate]

Match Facts
Sunday, June 7
Start time 17:30 local (16:30 GMT)

Big Picture

As Pakistan prepare for their return to the world stage after a traumatic period of exile, England find themselves staring into an abyss of their own making. A lip-smacking contest that, by rights, ought to have launched the ICC World Twenty20 has instead been turned into a do-or-die encounter. Netherlands' stunning victory at Lord's on Friday has blown the group wide open, and while England need nothing less than victory to keep their hopes alive, only two wins from two will guarantee Pakistan's qualification as well.
England's attitude in the tournament opener was shameful and dismissive - they turned up without conviction and chose to rest their star players with an eye on bigger tussles. The impression they gave was one of indifference, which is an emotion that couldn't be further from the needs of Pakistan's hour. They need desperately to do well here, perhaps more than most other countries, given what they have and are going through.
Anything less than a semi-final spot would be a disappointment for Pakistan, and winning their very first game is now imperative. At least four of the potential XI against England were in the side that lost to Ireland in 2007: they know well the dangers - and subsequent pain - of playing against a minnow and would much prefer to go into Tuesday's game against Netherlands with a win secured.
Their run-in to this contest has been poor, with two comprehensive defeats in the warm-ups, but Pakistan has never been a nation to get excited by practice games. Indeed, if 1992 is anything to go by, the worse they play in the warm-ups, the better they are later in the tournament. Above all, as seen in 2007 and a Twenty20 record of 13 wins from 17 games (three losses), the format suits them just fine.

If only the same could be said for England. A desperate lack of focus condemned them in their opening game, and any more of the same will confirm their elimination. Defeat to a minnow may be the wake-up call they need, but with 24 hours to recover, they are sure to feel a bit groggy when the teams reconvene on the field.

Form guide (last five matches, most recent first)

Pakistan WLWWW

This will only be Pakistan's second Twenty20 in seven months so rust will come into the equation. Though most of the side took a limited part in a quickfire domestic Twenty20 tournament, none of them were involved in the far more competitive IPL, which means effectively, the rest of the world has a headstart. They were impressive in a recent demolition of Australia but beyond that there isn't much form of any kind of competitive cricket to fall back on.

England LLWWW

Where do we start with England? Too many matches against West Indies - 17 in four months, punctuated by a friendly against Scotland - have softened them up just when a hardening of attitude was the order of the day. They, like Pakistan, played minimal parts in the IPL, though that was less for political reasons, and more because the world doesn't rate their Twenty20 players. On Friday's evidence, that's hardly a surprise.

Watch out for

Pakistan's mix of fast bowlers and spinners is a potent one even in a tournament blessed with some fine bowling attacks (Sri Lanka, India and Australia to name just three). The top two wicket-takers in Twenty20s are both to be found in green: Umar Gul and Shahid Afridi. If either Sohail Tanvir finds some form or young Mohammad Aamer chooses this stage to make an impact, their attack will be difficult to overcome.
Pity poor Stuart Broad, whose experiences in his last two World Twenty20 contests have been among the most chastening of his career. At Durban in September 2007 (http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/287873.html), he was clouted for six sixes in an over by Yuvraj Singh; but even that paled compared to his humiliation on Friday at Lord's, when - despite serving up about the best over he could muster - he was still England's fall-guy thanks to a tally of three missed run-outs and a dropped catch in the final six balls of the contest. He is, however, a quality cricketer with shoulders as broad as his surname. He will be vital if England are to bounce back

Team news

Pakistan experimented heavily in the warm-up games but still seem no closer to an ideal XI. Aamer might have played himself into a starting spot with an impressive performance against India. But problems with the batting order are apparent: Ahmed Shehzad will open, but who will he partner? Salman Butt is not guaranteed a spot, in which case, Kamran Akmal may well do so. There have also been reports that the captain Younis Khan might take up the role, fuelling further uncertainty over his best spot in the order. And Fawad Alam also provides useful all-round options; in short, uncertainty is all.

Pakistan: (probable) 1 Ahmed Shehzad, 2 Salman Butt, 3 Kamran Akmal (wk), 4 Shoaib Malik, 5 Misbah-ul-Haq, 6 Younis Khan (capt), 7 Shahid Afridi, 8 Sohail Tanvir, 9 Umar Gul, 10 Mohammad Aamer, 11 Saeed Ajmal.
England took "gambles" on Friday, in the unwise admission of their captain, Paul Collingwood. They rested Kevin Pietersen and Graeme Swann, and recalled Robert Key for his first international for four years when the six-hitting talents of Dimitri Mascarenhas might have been more appropriate. Expect some changes, though how far will they push it? Pietersen, surely, has to play through whatever pain he is feeling. England's World Cup prospects hinge on his presence.

England: (probable) 1 Luke Wright, 2 Ravi Bopara, 3 Kevin Pietersen, 4 Owais Shah, 5 Paul Collingwood (capt), 6 Dimitri Mascarenhas, 7 James Foster (wk), 8 Graeme Swann, 9 Stuart Broad, 10 James Anderson, 11 Ryan Sidebottom.

Pitch and conditions
The weather for the weekend is grim to say the least, with torrential rain forecast throughout the night on Saturday. Nevertheless, the clouds are expected to clear before the evening, which means a full match could take place, in conditions tailor-made for swing. Step forward, Anderson and Sidebottom. Your country needs you.

Stats and trivia
For players with over 12 Twenty20 wickets, Umar Gul has the best economy rate of 4.87. And he is the format's leading wicket-taker.

Pakistan possess two of the top three wicket-takers in Twenry20 as well as two of the top three run-scorers.

Quotes
"We hope he'll be fit for Sunday, but we're obviously not going to take any major risks, simple as that. He's involved in a big year ahead of us, but this is a must-win game on Sunday, and if he's fit he's playing."
Paul Collingwood is unclear quite how hard England want to push Pietersen's fitness for a crucial contest.

Andrew Miller is UK editor of Cricinfo. Osman Samiuddin is Pakistan editor.

From Cricinfo.com ESPN.

I really hope Pakistan beat England.
Would love to see England not manage to get past the group stages.

Pakistan may not be as good as they used to be in Tests and ODI's but they do have some great batsmen and if they tick, then they can really get a big score. I think Pakistan will have to improve their fielding though as its quite poor at the moment.

[Andeeh]

Its better of to have 1 thread about it instead of lots of little ones.

Scotland take on South Africa and
England take on Pakistan - must win for England

your predictions on who to win?

[Tintinnabulate]

I just created one for England vs Pakistan 2 minutes ago :P

And South Africa should win against Scotland and I really hope Pakistan beat England.

[Andeeh]

this gave me a nice little smile on my face knowing the aussies got beat.
i think they will still get to super 8s tho

[Arron]

I don't really know how all the rules work for cricket but I enjoyed it when Australia were batting. Whenever I watch it I hardly see 6's being scored but I seen 3 yesterday :)

[Tintinnabulate]

this gave me a nice little smile on my face knowing the aussies got beat.
i think they will still get to super 8s tho

Sri Lanka can be a hard team to beat so its hard to tell.

[Browney]

England looking good atm. Fielding from pakistan is dire.

[Immenseman]

I don't really know how all the rules work for cricket but I enjoyed it when Australia were batting. Whenever I watch it I hardly see 6's being scored but I seen 3 yesterday :)
there will always be a lot more in Twenty20 because basically you have to get as many runs as you can in 20 overs

England looking good atm. Fielding from pakistan is dire.
pakistan been a lot better in last few overs, ok innings from england - will have to field well themselves now

[Andeeh]

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Good innings from pietersen and nice cameo from dimi and foster.


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[champions]

Hehe what a joke. All the posts pulled.

I didn't see anything wrong with what was going on but it seems the mods saw differently.

Anyway England hammered Pakistan

[Andeeh]

slaughtered pakistan. it would be so funny if they go out and we can get yasir arafat back at sussex :]

[Arron]

did england win?

I just seen England 183-5 I think

[Geraint]

did england win?

I just seen England 183-5 I think

won by 48 runs. England are through now.

[Arron]

won by 48 runs. England are through now.

oh, yay :)

[Geraint]

they should have a different format to this. bit stupid to win 1 game and through. should be 6 in a group. top 2 go through. top of one group plays second in the other.

[Andeeh]

naa they like doing the super 8's thats why

[Geraint]

when there's only 12 teams, it's pointless.

[Immenseman]

i dont understand though. if pakistan beat holland how come they can say before the game that regardless of the result england r thru

[Geraint]

i dont understand though. if pakistan beat holland how come they can say before the game that regardless of the result england r thru

englands run rate is better than the netherlands.

[Wolverhampton]

I agree these stages are ******, their needs to be another four small nation teams taking part to make it 16 teams over all, then the best 8 into the Super 8's.

But yeah, Soil won't be happy eh? England battered Pakistan, great response to what was a pathetic display vs Holland.

[Immenseman]

@ gazza - but cant the netherlands alter than against pakistan :S

[Geraint]

@ gazza - but cant the netherlands alter than against pakistan :S

if netherlands win, pakistan are out. if pakistan win, netherlands can't take over england. pakistan can still go out if they win however.

[Wolverhampton]

So in other words, if Netherlands loose by more than 45 runs then they are out and Pakistan are through.

So to sum it up Pakistan need a big win.

[Immenseman]

which shouldn't be too hard for them against the netherlands. although, they beat england so we'll have to wait and see.

[Geraint]

run rate isn't work out like that. england's was -0.05 when they lost to the netherlands and netherlands was +0.05. not sure how it's worked out.

[Skajo]

It's net run rate if that helps. I'm not sure how it works either tbh.

[Wolverhampton]

They should just make their average over rune rate.

Would be much more understandable.

[Geraint]

It's net run rate if that helps. I'm not sure how it works either tbh.

I think it could be like this

say England have scored 200 (10 runs an over
Pakistan have scored 100 (5 runs an over)

That leaves a gap of 100 which when divided by 20 gives 5 so England's run rate would be +5 and Pakistan's would be -5

[Wolverhampton]

It could but it isn't because Englands net over run rate is something stupid like 1.3X...

[Geraint]

It could but it isn't because Englands net over run rate is something stupid like 1.3X...

if the won by 48, that would make it 2.4? dunno, possible. i'm confusing myself now.

[Wolverhampton]

Dno, it sucks though, they should make it something simple like, who hits most 6's and 4's? that'd make it much more viewer friendly.

[Tintinnabulate]

Oh man! Deep down I had a feeling England stood a chance (and I even said it in the other thread or this one ... I cant remember) but I really did think Pakistan could pull it off.

I didnt watch the match and havent read up on it either so I have no idea what went wrong for Pakistan.

Now I hope Netherlands beat Pakistan, but I reckon Pakistan will end up beating them.

[Wolverhampton]

even if they do they will still be out, they need to beat them by like 50 runs to go through.

[Tintinnabulate]

In T20, anything can happen.

[champions]

even if they do they will still be out, they need to beat them by like 50 runs to go through.
It'll be around 25-30 runs wont it?

[Tintinnabulate]

Nope, it has to be a wider margin than they lost to England. I think 55 would be a good approximate.

[champions]

Yeah but Netherlands net run rate will decrease if they are beaten so surely it will be less runs?
It's confusing lol

[Tintinnabulate]

Nope its more than 48 runs for sure.
Netherland vs England was a close match so England had -0.050 run rate while Netherlands had +0.050.
England won by a very large margin so the net run rate difference was -2.400 for Pakistan and a +2.400 for England, bringing Englands total to +1.175

In the England vs Pakistans match, Englands run rate was an average of 9.25 runs per over.
Pakistans average run rate was 6.85 runs per over.

So basically they do 9.25-6.85 to arrive at 2.4 as the difference. And then thats added to Englands net run rate and taken away from Pakistans.

I hope that explains it all :)

So Pakistan need to win by a run rate difference of 2.451 or more to get to the Super Eights.

So say Pakistan score 200, they cant let Netherlands score more than 150.
If Pakistan score 150, they cant let Netherlands score more than 100.
If Pakistan score 120 (average a run a ball), they cant let Netherlands score more than 70.

So its fair to say, the minimum difference needs to be around 50 runs.

[Tintinnabulate]

"It won't be a disaster even if we exit before the Super Eights. It would be sad if we don't make it, but I have never attached too much importance to Twenty20 cricket, as it is fun cricket. I mean it is more for entertainment, even if it is international cricket.

With that attitude no wonder they aren't winning. Thats just slapping their fans in their face in Pakistan who love cricket.
The guy reckons coming 4th is good enough.

Thank God India doesnt have that attitude or I would be extremely annoyed.

Anyway heres another article from Cricinfo.com ESPN.


Pakistan not only lost to England but they also demoralised their supporters today. In their international return to The Oval, Pakistan produced an insipid performance that now endangers their chances of qualification for the next stage of the tournament.

The major problem for Pakistan supporters is that their team hasn't even come close to winning any of the warm-up matches or the opening encounter against the hosts. It is hard to pinpoint where Pakistan lost this match, as they lost it almost everywhere and every which way they turned. Pakistan, in truth, have looked below par in every department, with the biggest concerns around the fielding and batting.

A lack of ability could be excused but a lack of competitiveness cannot. Pakistan's team has given the appearance of taking this whole tournament too lightly, which is a shock as this is Pakistan's opportunity to remind that world that it is a cricketing power that should not be ignored. On these performances, Pakistan can be easily ignored.

Younis Khan described the tournament as "fun" and something not to be taken too seriously as its main role is to entertain supporters. The miserable expressions of thousands of Pakistan fans in the stadium would beg to differ.

These supporters have been brought up on the bravado of Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, and Inzamam-ul Haq. The current approach of the Pakistan squad and its entourage is an insult to its millions of supporters and their heroic predecessors.

After all, this is a World Cup. Supporters pay to watch at the stadium, via satellite, and on the Internet. They want to see their team win. If not win, they want to see their team battle. Fun comes a poor third in the hierarchy.

Pakistan need to quickly get their priorities right. Even a win against The Netherlands may not now be enough.

Ultimately, though, it is hard to blame the players entirely. When a cricket administration is as hopeless as the PCB has been, how can we expect the players to be impeccable professionals?

A trivial match against The Netherlands has now acquired the flavour of a World Cup Final. Come on Pakistan, show some pride and passion.


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[Wolverhampton]

Stop making excuses for them.

They were piss poor, and if that's their attitude to cricket, good luck to em.

Btw can you please stop posting all these separate threads? it's cluttering the forum up, their is already a thread to post all this stuff about the T20.

[Catzsy]

Stop making excuses for them.

They were piss poor, and if that's their attitude to cricket, good luck to em.

Btw can you please stop posting all these separate threads? it's cluttering the forum up, their is already a thread to post all this stuff about the T20.

I cannot see a main thread. If there is one perhaps you could link me to it and I will try to get it stickied otherwise there is nothing that prevents members filing separate threads unless it is about the same game/duplicate. Thanks :)
It does seem to be a bit unfair on the Pakistani supporters to dismiss the T20 in that way.

[Wolverhampton]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=583385

there you go darlinggg.

oh and catz, i think you should also sticky the "summer transfers" thread as it's gonna' be running until like September. :)

[Catzsy]

Okay -thanks. I will request. :)

[Wolverhampton]

I edited my post above. :P

[Tintinnabulate]

That was to discuss the match, this thread is talking about their attitude in general.
Do you see just 1 thread for the Premier League? Just one thread when the football world cup is on? No.
And btw the thread I created before this was created BEFORE the thread you linked to, so maybe you need to open your eyes and look at when the threads were posted? So stop accusing me off "cluttering" up the forum when you are just spamming with idiotic posts.

I am not making excuses for them rofl, you, as always are trying to create arguments with me for obvious reasons.

I am just saying their attitude is shameful and because of that they deserved to lose.

How on earth you see that as me making an excuse for them is beyond me because I dont even support the Pakistan team. I really think you lack common sense and feel extremely sorry for you.
I am learning about behaviour in Psychology and yours fits in perfectly with the Behavioural Psychology. You are behaving just as psychologists expect people like you to behave.

[Wolverhampton]

It's the same subject, he made that thread so that people would post all about the T20 in it.

[Tintinnabulate]

Bangladesh 65/4 (10.1/20 ov)
Bangladesh RR 6.39

make that
Bangladesh 66/5 (10.3/20 ov)

Oh my .... and its against Ireland!

[Immenseman]

come on ireland!!

[Tintinnabulate]

# Bangladesh RR 5.86

This is hilarious. No idea how Bangladesh are doing so terrible.

[Geraint]

Ireland aren't a bad team.

[Immenseman]

and ireland win :eusa_danc

haha well played

[Geraint]

they've won by 6 wickets.

[Tintinnabulate]

Australia 1 Shane Watson, 2 David Warner, 3 Ricky Ponting (capt), 4 Michael Clarke, 5 Brad Haddin (wk), 6 David Hussey, 7 Mike Hussey, 8 Mitchell Johnson, 9 Brett Lee, 10 Nathan Hauritz, 11 Nathan Bracken

Sri Lanka 1 Tillakaratne Dilshan, 2 Sanath Jayasuriya, 3 Kumar Sangakkara (wk), 4 Mahela Jayawardene, 5 Jehan Mubarak, 6 Chamara Silva, 7 Angelo Mathews, 8 Isuru Udana, 9 Muttiah Muralitharan, 10 Ajantha Mendis, 11 Lasith Malinga

Toss news. Ponting tosses, Sangakarra correctly calls heads and Sri Lanka will bowl.

Come on SL. Send Aussies hopping back home please.

[Andeeh]

watched every game so far in tournament :)

south africa for england in super 8's on thursday, and well played sri lanka atm. but yesterday i cannot believe the poor umpiring with those wides about lukey wright.

[Wolverhampton]

neither could the commentators lol they were going mad...

[Andeeh]

neither could the commentators lol they were going mad...
haha pretty much same with me and my dad.

aus 40 - 1 of 4.3 overs :(

[Tintinnabulate]

Straight after the wicket fell, it went like this

5nb 4 | 4 . . 1 4 . | 4 . 4 4 . 4 | 1 4 1 2

Not bad at all.

[Geraint]

Goodbye Australia.

[Arron]

I'm sure England played yesterday :S?

On the news papers, the main headline was about Australia losing to the West Indies, I couldn't see anything about England.

If England played, what was the result??

[Wolverhampton]

They won by like 50 runs.

[Blinger1]

LOL!
Australia suck.

[Wolverhampton]

LOL!
Australia suck.

Australians suck!!!

[Tintinnabulate]

They believe that their ODI team can get them through T20 ...
Their ODI and test skills have gone down the drain too.

I now actually think, England stand a chance. Their bowling isnt wow, but their batting is quite good.

[Immenseman]

not a great innings from pakistan, come on holland :eusa_danc

[Wolverhampton]

They smacking a few sixes now though, this is gonna' be a very close game (cause of the net run rate) i can tell. :)

Also, England always stood a chance, because it's a great advantage having a world cup in your own surroundings/conditions.

[champions]

Told you they wont need to be within 50 runs to get through. They only need 151 which is 25 less than Pakistan got. I can see Netherlands going through.

[Tintinnabulate]

Netherlands 42/1 (7.0/20 ov)

They can easily get 151 if they try. Just over 8 runs an over to qualify and 10.30 to win.

[Immenseman]

very slow start though, they may as well just go for it now. all or nothing.

[Wolverhampton]

62-6... they're ballsing it up.

EDIT:
oh a 6, they're alive and kicking... if they get a single off every ball and smash a few 4/6's I think they will still do it.

gonna be tough though...

EDIT:
WICKET 71-7.

UGH, they're not gonna' do it now...

[Immenseman]

meh they've done well to even push it anyway.

[Wolverhampton]

74-8 with 6 overs remaining, their chance has now gone I think.

[Geraint]

The spinners seem to be getting a load of turn from these pitches.

[Wolverhampton]

Spinning, ahead of the Ashes... :O Australia won't be happy, they've got **** all in the spin department.

[Geraint]

From what I can see, they only have one real spinner.

[Geraint]

I wish Gibbs would start getting some runs. He's my captain. :(

[Wolverhampton]

S.A are on the ropes tbf, perhaps they aren't unbeatable.

[Andeeh]

Spinning, ahead of the Ashes... :O Australia won't be happy, they've got **** all in the spin department.

of course the pitch will spin as it has been played on constantly for 4 or 5 days meaning the pitch is going to form cracks were the spinners can get in give good turn.

Haha going to see sussex play Australia at end of month for the aussies warm up match :).

also soil are bowlers are brilliant and very destructive with Jimmy anderson and stuart broad are to front line seem bowlers.

Good spin from swann and im starting to enjoy rashid however i wouldnt pick him for the T/20.

hope they also play morgan against SA

[Tintinnabulate]

Come on South Africa, please trash England.

[Wolverhampton]

why doesn't that surprise me.

[Tintinnabulate]

why doesn't that surprise me.

I knew you would comment within minutes

0.6 Steyn to Bopara, OUT, bowled him! A much slower delivery, an off-cutter, wide of the off stump at which Bopara threw his hands, and the inside edge knocked over his off peg. Gone!

RS Bopara b Steyn 2 (5b 0x4 0x6) SR: 40.00

LOL

Edit:

1.5 Parnell to Wright, OUT, gone this time! Wright's walking! Another swing-and-a-miss from Wright, and this time he does edge it behind

LJ Wright c †Boucher b Parnell 1 (6b 0x4 0x6) SR: 16.66

HAHAHAHA

[Immenseman]

I hope for an England win but SA are favourites so we'll have to see. Not a good start.

[Tintinnabulate]

It is a terrible start and it means they are going to be under pressure from now, and they are now going to think twice before hitting sixes before over 10.

[Tintinnabulate]

25/3 kp gone
lowest 6 over score in the tournament so far

[Immenseman]

No shame in losing to the favourites, good to see them trying now. Just got a couple of sixes, 78-4.

[Tintinnabulate]

England 82/6 (13.5/20 ov)

This is just too funny.

[Wolverhampton]

Pretty pathetic from England, can't see anyone touching S.A in this tournament.

And if you find this funny you must really not have a life out side of cricket... :S

[Tintinnabulate]

Pretty pathetic from England, can't see anyone touching S.A in this tournament.

And if you find this funny you must really not have a life out side of cricket... :S

Why do you always seem to start an argument? Its a game ...
And actually Englands performance was hilarious, even one of your fans agree.
Anyway to me, all your posts seem idiotic and constantly trying to start an argument so I am just going to put you on my Ignore List so if you reply to me etc then you are just wasting your time.

England 111 (19.5/20 ov)

And Immeseman, its just bad sportmanship.
Just because I am not supporting England and simple posting their score and laughing at how terrible they are doing. Anyone who watched cricket will agree with me and would laugh at that score. If you watched the match properly, you will realise that the commentators seem to agree aswell as the reporters. Are they all trying to cause arguments too? No.

I think you will find its Wolverhampton who is trying to cause arguments as he seems to have nothing better to do.

[Wolverhampton]

Im not the Indian that lives in England and hates a cricket team that includes 3 Indian players.

That reminds me, how did the England women get on today?

I think they beat India by 10 wickets and 4 overs spare? rite?

Just to say btw, Soil, you ARE pathetic, and a typical Indian, may I just say. Blaming everyone else and never taking the stick. :)

[Tintinnabulate]

Im not the Indian that lives in England and hates a cricket team that includes 3 Indian players.

That reminds me, how did the England women get on today?

I think they beat India by 10 wickets and 4 overs spare? rite?

Just to say btw, Soil, you ARE pathetic, and a typical Indian, may I just say. Blaming everyone else and never taking the stick. :)

So if I move to South Africa now I should support South Africa? And then if I move to New Zealand I should support them instead? Yes obviously >.>

I dont really watch Womens cricket but my friend actually just texted me saying they beat India so well done to them. I have never really watched Womens cricket.

And you are a typical sore loser, who makes the British look bad. I aint blaming anyone else? If you use even a quarter of your brain, you will see I said I used to like the English team and now I dont as half the players are just immature.

And I support England in football so you cant really say I dont like England :s

A typical Indian? Ah thanks, I will take that as a compliment :)

And I cant see who I am blaming rofl :S England did terrible and I am just saying what I think. Sky Sports, BBC, ESPN are all saying they did terrible too, BUT THEY ARE WHITE so its fine :)

Anyway I have a 3 hour biology exam tomorrow so I am off.

[Andeeh]

terrible batting from us and superb fielding/bowling from SA I think we deserve to lose.

we are holdin SA up at the moment so atm i think we need to just do damage limitation

[Tintinnabulate]

terrible batting from us and superb fielding/bowling from SA I think we deserve to lose.

we are holdin SA up at the moment so atm i think we need to just do damage limitation

Yeah I havent been watching South Africas innings, just been checking the score every few overs, England arent doing too bad at bowling. Although England could still win if they get a few wickets now and try and add more pressure, but I think thats unlikely.

South Africa fielded amazingly. Without a doubt the better team.

I really cant wait till England vs India. If India dont get early wickets, or get KP out, we will be in trouble.

[Immenseman]

Not too bad by England, dire batting but that's hardly a shock. Good win for SA.

[Tintinnabulate]

Looking forward to India vs West Indies tomorrow. Straight after my exam =]

[Andeeh]

Looking forward to India vs West Indies tomorrow. Straight after my exam =]


If wi have gayle then they are in with a shot

[Wolverhampton]

Yeah I havent been watching South Africas innings, just been checking the score every few overs, England arent doing too bad at bowling. Although England could still win if they get a few wickets now and try and add more pressure, but I think thats unlikely.

South Africa fielded amazingly. Without a doubt the better team.

I really cant wait till England vs India. If India dont get early wickets, or get KP out, we will be in trouble.

How can you say S.A were the better team at that time when you said "I haven't really been watching"

******* hypocrite.

[Tintinnabulate]

How can you say S.A were the better team at that time when you said "I haven't really been watching"

******* hypocrite.

Are you seriously blind? I said I am not watching SOUTH AFRICAS INNINGS, I never said I didnt watch ENGLANDS INNINGS? Are you sure your brain isnt damaged? Or maybe you need an eye test.

I can predict your posts hence I make my posts blantantly clear, you obviously are blind or something.

And I said SA's fielding was better. And a better teams as in better team than before gosh. And I did watch the first 3 overs of Englands fielding and SAs fielding was amazing.

Go get your eyes tested and then a brain scan. And then stop being argumentative. People like you will fail in life with this kind of an attitude. And I know that for a fact seeing as I own a very successful business.

[Wolverhampton]

TYPICAL FOREIGNERRR.

You don't read anything properly, you just think your right cause your Indian, all Indians think they're right.

[Tintinnabulate]

TYPICAL FOREIGNERRR.

You don't read anything properly, you just think your right cause your Indian, all Indians think they're right.

LOL. You fail.
Yes ... all Indians think they are right >.> You obviously know alot about Indians LOL.
I aint going to lower myself to your level as I actually respect the British. Like I say, its people like you who sometimes give the British a bad name. I am sure many will agree.
Now go get that eye test and a brain scan. And then get your self admitted to a psych ward.

[Wolverhampton]

Wow your insults suck so much I actually laughed at that one.

'Psych award'

Nice one.

[Tintinnabulate]

Wow your insults suck so much I actually laughed at that one.

'Psych award'

Nice one.

Learn to quote properly LOL.
I seriously love your posts. Making me and my laugh out loud.

I love how you said I seem to have no life outside of cricket (or something along those lines), while looking at your posts, it seems you have been online on habboxforum all day? Literally all day. Quite sad.

[Geraint]

Let's just shut up and base our arguments on England v India and India v South Africa, shall we?

[Tintinnabulate]

Let's just shut up and base our arguments on England v India and India v South Africa, shall we?

Kids never listen. Especially kids who dont seem to read properly.

Anyway India vs South Africa I am looking forward to and dreading.
Last world cup we beat SA, but this year they have improved alot, as they demonstrated today.

India vs England, I think the key for India will be to get early wickets or get KP and their openers out.
England will need to try and make a huge score as India has a great batting line up, although we are missing Sehwag.

I actually think England could win it if they bat really well because the only reason India won on 19th Sept 2007 was because of Yuvraj' 6 6's.

So basically anyone can win. Really cant wait to get home from my long bio exam tomorrow and watch India vs West Indies.

[Wolverhampton]

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[Tintinnabulate]

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Now I know for sure you are blind.
I just said a million times I respect the British and support the English Football team. Gosh you really act like an idiot.

So you are telling me, if you moved to Australia, you will start supporting Australia?

Shows your dedication towards your first home country ...

How old are you? You seriously cant be older than 13 with your attitude. 14 at the most. Any older then wow you have some behavioural problems.

Anyway for anyone who is interested, heres ESPN Cricinfo's bulletin for the match.
I havent read it but I will tomorrow.

[QUOTE]South Africa put in a display worthy of their tag as pre-tournament favourites as they cruised to a seven-wicket victory against England at Trent Bridge after skittling the hosts for 111 in their first Super Eights match. Dale Steyn and Wayne Parnell set the tone with wickets in their opening overs and were backed up by impressive spin and fine catching, particularly Roelof van der Merwe's effort to remove Kevin Pietersen, and although the run chase didn't set pulses racing the result was never in doubt.

Only Owais Shah made a significant contribution for England as he made 38 off 33 with two sixes, but it was a forlorn effort as wickets fell regularly. When a scorecard reads as poorly as England's it's easy to criticise the batting - and some of the shot selection was poor - but South Africa were outstanding in every facet of their game. They could have charged down the small total, but chose to take their time on a surface that grew slower by the minute - a key factor in Paul Collingwood deciding to bat first - yet still eased home with 10 balls to spare as Jacques Kallis helped himself to an unbeaten 57.

Winning a rare toss was about the only thing that went well for England. South Africa started the match in perfect style when Steyn removed Ravi Bopara with his fifth ball as an inside edge crashed into off stump. Luke Wright then found that opening against a top-quality attack was a different proposition from the Netherlands or lacklustre Pakistan efforts. He was beaten twice by the impressive Parnell, as he tried to crash the ball through the off side, then edged another attempt to the keeper to leave England 4 for 2.

The scene was set for Pietersen, but it proved another case of KP failing and England failing with him. He opened his account by whipping his first ball from Steyn imperiously through midwicket and drove the next through mid-off as Steyn momentarily had problems with his run-up. Two more boundaries followed off Kallis's opening over, but the next bowling change was decisive.

Albie Morkel's second delivery was a low full toss and Pietersen hit it pretty well and fairly straight, but van der Merwe went airborne to his left at mid-on and got both hands to a stunning catch. It was a huge moment for both teams, deflating for England and completely uplifting for South Africa. Morkel's successful over was the first maiden of the tournament and England's tally of 25 for 3 the lowest six-over total so far in the event.

Shah and Collingwood had no choice but to opt for a period of consolidation as Graeme Smith quickly turned to his spinners. Shah injected momentary life into the innings when he launched a full toss from Johan Botha down the ground for six then he followed that by attacking van der Merwe's next over, launching him straight and taking two more boundaries through cover and midwicket, but the revival didn't last.

Kallis returned to the attack and after Collingwood paddled him for four past the diving Mark Boucher, Kallis responded by clattering the stumps as the batsmen backed away to give himself room and then greeted James Foster with a rearing bouncer.

Despite having been taken for 17 in his previous over, van der Merwe had the confidence of his captain and responded with an over which effectively killed off the innings. Foster tried to reverse sweep the first ball but just lobbed a simple catch to short third-man and Dimitri Mascarenhas lasted three deliveries before backing away to cut, losing his off stump.

The last hope of England setting anything competitive lay with Shah, but he was undone by a sharp delivery from Kallis that moved away a fraction and took the edge. It meant the lower order was left having to try and bat out the 20 overs and they couldn't managed it when Parnell gave himself superb figures by cleaning up Stuart Broad and James Anderson in two balls.

Smith fell early in the chase as he top-edged a pull and was well caught by Foster who ran towards short fine-leg. England actually bowled reasonably well, but the game had long since been lost during their innings. Kallis enjoyed the rarity of being able to bat within himself during a Twenty20 innings to reach fifty off 46 balls. This was an ominously slick display from South Africa but for the hosts, who lifted their game in the nick of time in the group stage against Pakistan, another huge improvement is needed to have a chance of progressing further.

[Wolverhampton]

What makes me laugh is the size of your replies, which is pretty simple psychology, it shows that you're trying to prove your point because your obviously in the wrong, and need to keep backing up your pathetic comments/quotes.

And btw, I could not be arsed to read your two page essay, waste of my time. :)

[Tintinnabulate]

Early reports suggest that Gayle will be playing tomorrow.

These are the probable teams.


India: (probable) 1 Gautam Gambhir, 2 Rohit Sharma, 3 Suresh Raina, 4 Yuvraj Singh, 5 MS Dhoni (capt/wk), 6 Yusuf Pathan, 7 Harbhajan Singh, 8 Zaheer Khan, 9 Irfan Pathan/Praveen Kumar/RP Singh, 10 Pragyan Ojha, 11 Ishant Sharma

Whose place does Gayle take? Simmons will be difficult to push out, which makes Xavier Marshall and Kieron Pollard the prime suspects.

West Indies: (probable) 1 Chris Gayle (capt), 2 Andre Fletcher, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, 4 Ramnaresh Sarwan, 5 Dwayne Bravo, 6&7 Lendl Simmons/Xavier Marshall/Kieron Pollard, 8 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 9 Jerome Taylor, 10 Fidel Edwards, 11 Suleiman Benn.

[Wolverhampton]

West Indies will whack you for 6.

Btw, England will beat you Sunday, mark my words. ;)

[Immenseman]

Get Gayle out you'll beat Indies.

[Tintinnabulate]

I havent really seen West Indies play lately so I cant really comment on their players, but people seem to say Gayle is their only good player.

[Wolverhampton]

Bravo? :S

[Tintinnabulate]

Pakistan vs Sri Lanka this afternoon at 1:30
Sri Lanka seem to be the obvious favourites here.
I dont really care who wins there, but I would prefer SL to win. Who do you guys think will win?

[ihatehash]

someone keep me up with this.
what countries are still in and what countries are out, because I am so confused :P
+Respect if u do :)

[Tintinnabulate]

http://www.cricinfo.com/wt202009/content/page/407456.html

Groups A B C D were the original ones.

E F are the super eights group :)

[ihatehash]

So India, Pakistan, England, Irealand,West Indies, Sri Lanka, south Africa and NZ are still in? the rest are out?

[Wolverhampton]

you are correct.

[ihatehash]

ah k, thanks for your help both of you.
+rep

also for the Sri Lanka Vs Pakistan game, I would like Sri Lanka to win but I think Pakistan will win

[Tintinnabulate]

Pakistans attitude has been poor towards T20, but they did seem to try hard in their last match.
I really doubt Pakistan will win.

[Smiddy]

Pakistan won't win unless Misbah Ul-haq bats at number 3. :)

I've got a sneaky suspicion New Zealand will win the whole tournament. Not sneaky enough to put a bet on though.

And England have been dire throughout, they weren't magic against Pakistan, they were just fortunate that Pakistan played poorly. Complete false hope.

[Wolves]

Pakistan are pathetic at T20 though. :P

[Tintinnabulate]

The final could actually be between NZ and SA.

[Wolves]

Yeah, I agree.

[ihatehash]

Lets hope New Zealand wins the whole thing :p

[Tintinnabulate]

Well India havent beaten NZ yet in the 3 T20 they have played against them, so I really am hoping India wont have to play NZ.

[ihatehash]

It would be nice if we win, we haven't won any cricket titles in a while. we have always been so close :p

[Wolves]

NZ/SA to win the world cup. :)

[Wolves]

Try supporting England. :P
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[Geraint]

New Zealand have some big hitters and in Vettori they have arguably the best T20 bowler.

[Wolves]

Not to mention Vettori has been injured for the whole of the T20 so far? :rolleyes:

[Geraint]

Not to mention Vettori has been injured for the whole of the T20 so far? :rolleyes:

I know which makes it even better because when he comes back they'll be even stronger.

[Wolves]

three players that I like the best, flintoff, vettori, and gayle.

simple awesome.

[Jack.Lfc]

netherlands are the best

[Wolves]

nah ireland are

[Smiddy]

Pakistan are pathetic at T20 though. :P
The beaten finalists in the last World Cup? ;)

I'm liking the sudden interest in New Zealand haha. South Africa and Australia were the favourites last tournie, they both went out. This time the favourites are South Africa & India, I can see them not getting in the final either. Leaving the door open for a New Zealand v Windies final ;)

[Tintinnabulate]

Oh my. The second India lost their 1st wicket, I said to my mum "instead of trying to get 6's instantly, they should try and save wickets for the next 3 overs to relieve some pressure" ... I was right, they tried hitting and lost.

Well done to West Indies. Very very disappointed.

[Wolves]

Not watched the game but I am glad India lost.

[Tintinnabulate]

South Africa 183/7 (20/20 ov)
West Indies 163/9 (20.0/20 ov)
South Africa won by 20 runs

Now, if any two of these cases happen:
India beat England and SA
England beat India and WI
WI beat England

Then its going to depend on the net run rate.

[Wolves]

Pakistan are beating New Zealand, shock! :O

[Geraint]

Umar Gul take a bow my son. 5-6. excellent.

[Wolves]

Didn't watch it, only caught the ended, didn't know he had figures like that. :O

Fair play to him. ;)

[Tintinnabulate]

This is how I hope it turns out
India trash England
England beat West Indies (close game I hope)
India beat SA or India lose to SA by a very small run rate diff

[Andeeh]

this has been an intresting tournament. we need to shape up if we want a chance of winning just one of our super 8's

[Tintinnabulate]

man i am so damn nervous. eng vs india!
if india win today and england wins tomorrow i will be happy!

[Wolves]

why don't you like the windies?

if england weren't to win the tournament id want the windies to. :P

[Tintinnabulate]

if india beat england today, then its better for India if England beat WI ;)

[Wolves]

Wow, Harbhajan Singh is a cheating *******, stops bowling the ball when he knows he's gonna be hit for 4/6.
Found this on google (open at your own risk!):

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Made me laugh!

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[Andeeh]

Wow, Harbhajan Singh is a cheating *******, stops bowling the ball when he knows he's gonna be hit for 4/6.
Found this on google (open at your own risk!):

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Made me laugh!

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send me pm with link i want to see

and yea Singh is a cheating idiot. he did it 3 times but the thing is he is allowed too.

also YOUR NOT SINGING ANYMORE

[Immenseman]

lalalala come on ENGLANDDDDDDD

[Andeeh]

hahahaha unlucky Soil. world champions out.

[Immenseman]

bye bye india!! haha

[18-3]

Where had Soil gone?

[Wolves]

India were pissssss poor.

Good bye India, where's all the Indians now? givin it the big en?

Woop.

[Tintinnabulate]

Bhajji is a moron. Last ball of the innings and its 5wd :\
He gave away like 10wd :\

And Dhoni's captaincy has gone crap. Giving wrong bowlers the ball. I mean give it to Zaheer or RP, but why Ishant :S
And his batting has gone crap too lately.

India deserved to lose. They really need to go back and look at how to improve.

[Wolves]

Well, that's what you get for booing the England players at the home of cricket, it pissed them off, and you got punished for it.

Fair play to England, just hope they can deliver tomorrow against the big hitting windies. :)

[Tintinnabulate]

3 run win wasnt that great but a win is a win
i am still blaiming bhajji and his 10 wides. the idiot.
and Dhoni needs to sort his batting out.
And Raina needs to learn how to play short balls.
They should take this time off to try and improve

I want a SA vs WI final so come on WI

[Wolves]

You can't beat England when it comes to pressure games, they excel in them, and fair play to them.

Just praise England, just this once, they out-played you on the day and they deserved to win.

[Immenseman]

Yeah, I think the result actually flattered India. England were better than 3 run win.

[Tintinnabulate]

Englands fielding was poor.
But Indias captain and bowling were both just crap.
Dhoni needs to go and learn how to bat again.

[Immenseman]

Are you joking? I actually thought Englands fielding was the difference. In comparison to Indias anyway, lol.

[Wolves]

*REMOVED* when really they just got out-played, but he's go to much "pride" to admit it. England's fielding and bowling was exceptional, our batting turned out to be okay, it had to be as India couldn't meet out target, we didn't drop a catch and didn't let any silly runs go, at all, Luke Wright's and Stuart Broads catches were both exceptional, Indias fielding was POOR and always HAS been. :rolleyes:

That's what you get for booing the England players, in their own country, at the home of cricket, you got what was coming to you.

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[Tintinnabulate]

Are you joking? I actually thought Englands fielding was the difference. In comparison to Indias anyway, lol.

Indias was much better :P
You guys missed like a couple of run outs and mis fields.

Anyway India lost and you guys won, its 1-1 in T20 but 5-0 to us in ODI so far :)
I still blame Bhajji for all those wides, otherwise you would have lost the game.
Come on West Indies.

And lol I just said my team did crap? Wolves stop trying to cause arguments again.
80 posts in 1 day? Gosh ... and you say I have no life outside of cricket ... you have none outside of hxf.

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[Wolves]

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[Sunny.]

Wolves mate grow up. Stop acting like a spoilt kid.

I think India's main mistake was letting Jadeja come out to bat towards the start. He wasted alot of balls.
India are a better team overall imo however on the day england were a lot better so fair play to them. They still have to beat west indies however.

[Wolves]

i give up with some people on this forum, they have no common sense.

[Immenseman]

we beat the west indies in preparation so hopefully we'll do it today.

[Wolves]

If it's hot then the windies will win, if it's anything below 15 degrees england will win! like my method of finding the winner? how random. :D

[Tintinnabulate]

Wolves mate grow up. Stop acting like a spoilt kid.

I think India's main mistake was letting Jadeja come out to bat towards the start. He wasted alot of balls.
India are a better team overall imo however on the day england were a lot better so fair play to them. They still have to beat west indies however.

Not only that but Dhoni should have let Zaheer and RP bowl instead of Ishant.
Why oh why did Bhajji become stupid on his last bowl. Those 5 runs (10 total in 2 balls in extras) ended up letting England win.


If it's hot then the windies will win, if it's anything below 15 degrees england will win! like my method of finding the winner? how random. :D

Thats the stupidest thing I have read ever. And worst ever excuse (if you do end up using it) when England lose.

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[Sunny.]

West Indies are a gd team. Hopefully they can show it today :]

[Immenseman]

not a bad innings for england. rain stops play. if the game has to be cancelled due to rain both will get 1 point which means indies are through on run rate. would be a rubbish way to go out...

[Wolves]

Play due to start in 8 minutes! england need a quick 40 off the las 3.2 overs. If we get that then with the bowling line up which we have I think we SHOULD win. :)

[Tintinnabulate]

Bravo, please send England out.

[Wolves]

More like the weather will send England out, lol.

[Tintinnabulate]

I want England to lose fairly otherwise I know they will be on about how unfair it was for the next 4 years.



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[Wolves]

Just like you are cause you lost to a better team last night, stop flapping your gums, you keep going on about the same thing and it's getting pretty boring.

Great last two shots from Broad, could give us that little bit of extra momentum that we needed.

[Tintinnabulate]

I aint even on about India rofl! Like I said last time, get your eyes tested as I think you might have a problem with seeing things.

I really hope WI go through so we get a SA vs WI final.
SA deserve to win. Truly the best team in the world.

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[Wolves]

I said you keep going on about the same thing, aka; "OMG I HATE ENGLAND I HOPE THEY LOSE EPICLY".

You're like a bloomin broken record.

On topic; ohhh nooo, rain delay again, gonna go into D/L - not good. :(

[Tintinnabulate]

7.24pm Play will resume at 7.32pm as long as the rain stops. Which it won't - the covers are being dragged back on I'm afraid. If they don't get going by 7.32pm, they'll be reducing the overs. If it's a five-over match, West Indies will be chasing 47. No idea how our statistician Robin has worked it out, but I daren't challenge him.

Hmmm 47 off 30 balls. Send in the big hitters, e.g. Bravo.

[Wolves]

Wow he was wrong on BBC sports live text then, cause it's now sunny and the covers are coming off. :S

EDIT: well were coming off, but now it's still sunny.

[Andeeh]

'southall travel for world wide flights and holidays'

we batted not great i would have wanted at least 170 and covers are still on.

5 bowlers containing 2 spinners and arnie in side ;]

we need to get early wickets of gayle and bravo when play resumes

[Wolves]

'southall travel for world wide flights and holidays'

we batted not great i would have wanted at least 170 and covers are still on.

5 bowlers containing 2 spinners and arnie in side ;]

we need to get early wickets of gayle and bravo when play resumes

Simple, if we get Gayle and Bravo out, we win, it's really that simple.

[Tintinnabulate]

LOL not really. They have other batsmen too you know.
You need to look at the overall picture.

7.44pm It's all down to Duckworth and Lewis now. The rain has eased, but not enough and we need to get started by 8.40pm to see any result. If we don't, West Indies will progress to the semi-finals and England will be tossed out. However, if it's a five-over match, West Indies will chase 47. That's all we know for now.

[Wolves]

well, this is it, good luck, let the best team win, just hope that the weather doesn't ruin it.

[Andeeh]

eugh come on jimmy no wides just full and straight.

yess get in there, come on arnie

[Immenseman]

need 80 from 9 overs, we'll see. it doesn't matter how many get out so they can just smash 'em, they're in the better position me thinks

6-1 :eusa_danc

[Andeeh]

YESS what did i sayy full and straight and gayle is out 'shake shake shake shake shake it'

[Wolves]

thats one out, one more to go, come on get bravo please.

good luck stuart broad, do us proud!

YESSSS WICKET SIMMONDS OUTT

[Andeeh]

YESSS get in there short he scoops it down to third man and arnie catches 3 down :)

[Immenseman]

16-3 hehe

[Wolves]

wish they would hurry up bowling the overs, its almost certainly gonna rain again!!!

we need ANOTHER wicket

[Andeeh]

come on england

i was just complaining about rashid to many runs off over and nice leg break and he has his first victim

gotta watch out shiv chanderpaul in

[Wolves]

40 odd - 4

COME ON!!!

[Immenseman]

still gna be dead close

[Geraint]

they might be 41 for 4 but they're pretty much on target.

[Wolves]

YES BRAVO IS OUTTTT!!!!!!

they may be on target but they're running out of batsmen.

[Andeeh]

i think foster has stumpped him

[Immenseman]

yeah exactly, i think they'll still do it but meh hopefully not

[Wolves]

Sarwan and Chanderpaul, two of their best batsmen, ughhhh.

WIDE, FGS WHAT HE DOING.

3 overs left 9.6 p/o needed.

this is going to be dead close, can see WI snatching it though, we need one of these wickets to fall!

[Geraint]

Sarwan and Chanderpaul, two of their best batsmen, ughhhh.

WIDE, FGS WHAT HE DOING.

Chanderpaul is awful in T20 cricket and Sarwan loses concentration way too much.

[Wolves]

ok thats give me some hope, this is going to be so close, just hope they bowl full/yorker deliveries from now on, without bowling wides/no balls.

Still think WI might snatch it, although I hope not.

this is why t20 is amazing, you wudnt get these nerves in a test match.

wide and a 4, he's thrown it away for us.

[Immenseman]

looks like they will but no shame for england going out here

[Andeeh]

eh game over me feel :(

[Wolves]

james anderson has thrown it away for us, well done lad.

8 p/o needed, sidebottom and broad to bowl the last two overs, good luck lads, just don't bowl any wides or no no balls pls...

[Immenseman]

16 off 2 overs.

[Andeeh]

just bowl yorkers around the wicket. variation in pace would be risky but nescillary as lbw would come in to play

[Immenseman]

12 from 10 ballzzzzzzzzz

[Wolves]

dont mind singles, but 12 runs from 10 looks pretty easy, one four and it's game over.

[Immenseman]

10 from 9 balls. meh was a good game anyway :)

[Andeeh]

a wicket would be nice but D/L is so unfair for the bowling side its a disgrace. because they no there target at that stage

[Wolves]

fair play to england, at least they tried...

gl to the windies. ;)

at least we beat india, wow why are people crying LOL

[Immenseman]

yeah, should have fielded first imo. they need 4 from 7 balls haha fair play to them

[Andeeh]

just bowl a nice couple of bouncers one in to the nuts and one for the head - as only one head height per over.

get all fielders in close and only 3 outside the circle

[Wolves]

3 needed of the last over, unless sidebottom does something extraordinary like a hat-trick, which isn't going to happen, then it's over.

wd to the windies, and wd england for trying.

again, at least we sent the indians packing back home.

[Tintinnabulate]

Simple, if we get Gayle and Bravo out, we win, it's really that simple.

I think you will find that you were wrong :)

Well done West Indies! Well deserved win. Sent England out xD

[Geraint]

a wicket would be nice but D/L is so unfair for the bowling side its a disgrace. because they no there target at that stage

they would have known the target anyway because they bowled first. england scored 8 an over, west indies needed 9 an over.

[Immenseman]

at least we knocked india out eh lads :eusa_danc

[Wolves]

soil ur such a sore loser.

take a leaf out our book mate.

[Tintinnabulate]

Haha yeah but we made a world record with you guys last time xD 6 6's :D


soil ur such a sore loser.

take a leaf out our book mate.

I am a sore loser how? I blamed India for losing and congratulated England.
And now I am celebrating WI won. LOL :S

[Immenseman]

but we knocked you out this time... :D!

[Andeeh]

they would have known the target anyway because they bowled first. england scored 8 an over, west indies needed 9 an over.

its an unfair way of doing it. just look the batsman no where they need to be after a certain stage so they can play big shots accordingly. and well i thought D/L if you lose wickets the rate increases well it did when sussex played kent.

well done west indies, finally they have beaten us

[Wolves]

yeh well done to em.

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[Andeeh]

yeh well done to em.

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besides, if it was a 20 over match england would have trounced WI.
funny thing is that they support their cricket team but when it comes to football they chose england.

[Andeeh]

yea, wheres the indian football team?

makes me laugh, a country with 50million people beat a country of over 1billion people at their number one sport, ace! (y)
hahaha lol i like it too

but tbh i dont care much about t/20 its all about tests for this year and i wouldnt have minded getting knocked out in first stages as beating the aussies is one of the biggest rivalrys on the planet.

[Wolves]

yeah i agree, the ashes is everything, now they can get down to focusing on them and focus on beating them.

still proud of how england performed in the last two T20 matches though, they have improved hugely.

[Andeeh]

yeah i agree, the ashes is everything, now they can get down to focusing on them and focus on beating them.

still proud of how england performed in the last two T20 matches though, they have improved hugely.

yea i like the improvement of the T/20 maybe in two years time we can be competitive.

and i know its early but disreguarding injuries and stuff my ashes starting XI would be

Strauss (c)
Bopara
Shah - cant think who to replace him in test squad
Pietersen
Prior (wk)
Flintoff
Collingwood
Swann
Broad
Onions/Sidebottom
Anderson

[Geraint]

yea, wheres the indian football team?

makes me laugh, a country with 50million people beat a country of over 1billion people at their number one sport, ace! (y)

because the english have never gone on about how they are better than a country with a population of 3 million when their population is over 50m and their biggest sport. :rolleyes:

[Wolves]

I agree with your team, I'd have Cook as second batsman though, Pietersen at third, and Bopara at third.

I know you probably won't agree with me, but I'd have Sidebottom in the side and have Onions instead of Anderson.

[Andeeh]

I agree with your team, I'd have Cook as second batsman though, Pietersen at third, and Bopara at third.

I know you probably won't agree with me, but I'd have Sidebottom in the side and have Onions instead of Anderson.

i have to say i cant agree with Onions for Anderson i reckon we need him as he are front line seemer.

as for batsman replacing shah if bell and vaughan can show form in CC then i dont think it can change

[Browney]

because the english have never gone on about how they are better than a country with a population of 3 million when their population is over 50m and their biggest sport. :rolleyes:

and vice versa.

[Andeeh]

india looking likely to be SA shame really :[

[Andeeh]

i take that back sorry for double post but india have lost 4 wickets since then and SA are causing problems. i think its gonna be close finish


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[Wolves]

who won? was out.

[Tintinnabulate]

Dhoni needs to take this time and practice his batting, along with the whole Indian team. Their bowling is always great (apart from when they get silly sometimes) but they batting has been below average.

[Immenseman]

nice to see india lose all their games :eusa_danc

[Tintinnabulate]

nice to see india lose all their games :eusa_danc

We won the warm ups and group ones :)

Anyway, with this level of batting, they wouldnt have won. They let the bowlers down who did an amazing job.

Quite a shame to lose all the super eights matches but ah well. I think they play west indies in ODIs at the end of this month and then have a big gap. They should use that gap wisely.

[Wolves]

oh what a surprise they lost... again.

lovely jubley.

[Tintinnabulate]

We will trash England next time (H)
Just like we did in ODI and Test matches in November. 5-0 and 3-0 :)

[Wolves]

That was a different format, luv, we beat you and knocked you out, and are you forgetting you were "meant" to be the best cause you were world champions at T20?

pffffft. :rolleyes:

[Andeeh]

We will trash England next time (H)
Just like we did in ODI and Test matches in November. 5-0 and 3-0 :)

i dont think you should brag about this as for me the main event of the tour was the bombings. we could have went home with our lives still in tack but we came back played and donated our match fees to the charity set up for the bombings

[Wolves]

It's what they do, they brag over petty things, I'm used to it.


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[Tintinnabulate]

SA vs Pakistan.

O really really hope SA win this one. I am not bothered who wins tomorrow, I just want SA to win the cup.

[CJW93]

I want South Africa to win the thing

[Tintinnabulate]

Pakistan 8/0 (1.0/20 ov)
South Africa
Pakistan won the toss and elected to bat

[Tintinnabulate]

Oh no. 7 runs too. Man oh man. I shall be supporting West Indies now. Otherwise Sri Lanka.

[Andeeh]

Interesting final

Pakistan v Sri Lanka

take your picks guys for me i have to go for Sri Lanka

[Immenseman]

Sri Lanka for me too, that's who I want to win anyway.

Glad to see Englands women doing really well today :D

[Wolves]

Sri Lanka, their death bowling is exceptional, Malinga tha swinga.

[Geraint]

Sri Lanka's batsmen are awesome. Dilshan has come up with his awesome flick over the head and they seem to be playing very well. They have pace in Matthews and Malinga and spin in Murali and Mendis.

Pakistan will want to get further than last year and it's a very hard one to call.