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scott
23-06-2009, 11:46 AM
So today i go on and log in and it takes me to the gallery and what do i see, but some naked people lol.

Don't you think it would be easier not to show them like that cause i really don't want to log on and see that everytime. ;)

Edited By nvrspk4 (General Manager): Thread closed, see final post for explanation.

Cixso
23-06-2009, 12:05 PM
So today i go on and log in and it takes me to the gallery and what do i see, but some naked people lol.

Don't you think it would be easier not to show them like that cause i really don't want to log on and see that everytime. ;)

I was hoping for women but I got men instead. That's unfair.

Anyways I'm off, catch ya's later.

scottish
23-06-2009, 12:28 PM
Yeh i was looking at that scripted photo thing then 2 naked guys come up the side its like WOT???????????????? lolz.......

Sammeth.
23-06-2009, 12:31 PM
But yeah good point. I'm sure something will be done about it.

Edit: Oh thats grossly inappropriate, to be honest some look way too young. Disgusting.

buttons
23-06-2009, 12:34 PM
wow i had a look through n there's atleast 3 pictures of leah loooool

scottish
23-06-2009, 12:34 PM
yeh i had that aswell jen LOL

scott
23-06-2009, 12:46 PM
But yeah good point. I'm sure something will be done about it.

Edit: Oh thats grossly inappropriate, to be honest some look way too young. Disgusting.
Yeah lol, wasnt very nice to seeeeee!

Nixt
23-06-2009, 12:49 PM
Perhaps we could think about getting UploadPicz site Moderators of some sort? I am not aware of how it works as my speciality is obviously the Forum but if it is a possibility it might be worth it in situations like this!

scottish
23-06-2009, 12:55 PM
mods would have to check every image

and if they put a verification system in place they'd lose ALOT of clients so

i'd just remove gallery/ability to view others images

or maybe a report button, which when clicked would +1 and maybe if it got like 3 reports the image would be moved to a different section which wasn't accessable until mods could check it and see if it was inappropriate, at which point they'd remove, or if it wasn't put it back to public.

Yonder
23-06-2009, 01:05 PM
So today i go on and log in and it takes me to the gallery and what do i see, but some naked people lol.

Don't you think it would be easier not to show them like that cause i really don't want to log on and see that everytime. ;)

Liar you loved it, aye i dont think they should have gallery there isnt enough moderation of the pcitures, so you might aswell remove it for safety :)

Mrs.McCall
23-06-2009, 01:30 PM
Oh dear.

Someone should've pressed private button.

Hecktix
23-06-2009, 01:47 PM
there is a report image button :)

Mrs.McCall
23-06-2009, 01:49 PM
there is a report image button :)

Still, those images have been on their for some times. It is worrying as some of the images depict people who are clearly below the legal age of consent.

I think the gallery should be removed.

scott
23-06-2009, 01:57 PM
there is a report image button :)
Thats not the point, i still don't want to go on there and see that? :S
If you do then fine but i sure don't.

Hecktix
23-06-2009, 02:26 PM
That's a good point actually :)

The 'young' one looks about 15-16, which is way below the legal pornographic age so UploadPicz could get into trouble.

It does need removing!!

Who has admin on that site though? Just Jin?

leah
23-06-2009, 07:23 PM
wow i had a look through n there's atleast 3 pictures of leah loooool


yeh i had that aswell jen LOL
Yeah scott said something about that to me, I got well scared. lmao.
Theres always random pictures on there when I go on, once I tried to upload a pic of me and I got porn instead :S

Nxrissa
23-06-2009, 07:36 PM
did i see you mentioned men ;) i might have to take a visit ;)
lol. filth.

Mentor
24-06-2009, 03:53 AM
Still, those images have been on their for some times. It is worrying as some of the images depict people who are clearly below the legal age of consent.

I think the gallery should be removed.
Going by that its quite a bit more than the gallery than needs to be removed. Hosting such images is a serious offence and could quite easily land some people a serious amount of jail time if its true.

Mrs.McCall
24-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Going by that its quite a bit more than the gallery than needs to be removed. Hosting such images is a serious offence and could quite easily land some people a serious amount of jail time if its true.

There is no way of telling but it certainly looks that way.

Not that i've examined them closely... :eusa_wall

Mentor
24-06-2009, 09:59 PM
There is no way of telling but it certainly looks that way.

Not that i've examined them closely... :eusa_wall
I just browsed to the site, and dear god this sort of thing should not be allowed on the Internet. Habbox needs to sort this out pretty danm urgently as the content of even the first gallery page is absolutely shocking. I'm surprised the police haven't already shut it down and arrested the owners of both the hosting company and whoever name is on the bills O.O

Who the **** manages this site, and what on earth do they think there playing at.

Calvin
24-06-2009, 10:09 PM
whats with all the chinese girls on there too, lol?

Favourtism
24-06-2009, 10:12 PM
whats with all the chinese girls on there too, lol?
Thats just Jin

N!ck
25-06-2009, 03:19 PM
Yes, there's some naked male pictures on there of people who look about 14/15. This needs sorting.

Who sees the reports and how often are they checked?

Berch
25-06-2009, 03:25 PM
Yes, there's some naked male pictures on there of people who look about 14/15. This needs sorting.

Who sees the reports and how often are they checked?

Yeah. Probably should get a couple people from the forum to 'Moderate' the site and remove any images as such which are inappropriate wouldn't mind doing it myself if they needed someone to do it.

AgnesIO
25-06-2009, 03:28 PM
The owners of these pictures probably use the forum (to know about uploadpicz)

I would check the IP of who is adding them, and also rempve the damned gallery.

scott
25-06-2009, 03:47 PM
The owners of these pictures probably use the forum (to know about uploadpicz)

I would check the IP of who is adding them, and also rempve the damned gallery.
I'm sure Jin posted somewere that there isn't actually a lot of Habbox Users that use uploadpicz lol.

Molly.22
25-06-2009, 03:59 PM
Perhaps we could think about getting UploadPicz site Moderators of some sort? I am not aware of how it works as my speciality is obviously the Forum but if it is a possibility it might be worth it in situations like this!

Good idea

Cixso
25-06-2009, 10:10 PM
Oh dear.

There's a girl on there who is naked and looks to be 16.

How the hell is this website still up? Holy crap Habbox are running on a fine line here...

Every gallery page has a naked dude or girl. (well, first 3 then 5 and 6 with cartoon porn)

buttons
25-06-2009, 10:11 PM
someone on there has a naked black men fetish too :(

scott
25-06-2009, 10:13 PM
someone on there has a naked black men fetish too :(
yeah i seen that to..

I think Jin may be away atm though

Mrs.McCall
25-06-2009, 10:14 PM
yeah i seen that to..

I think Jin may be away atm though

He is away currently, yeah

Cixso
25-06-2009, 10:17 PM
There's also a photo of a young boy laying down fully naked.

That's been there since this thread was created.

Mentor
25-06-2009, 10:20 PM
The site really should not be live. It should be taken down temporarly, cleaned up, and a good few uploader's IP's reported to the police.

On that note, im suprised the police arn't involved already concidering the content.

Frank459
25-06-2009, 11:02 PM
An idea:
Shut the website down temporarily and get the majority of the indecent pictures removed.
Get a system in which accounts can be given "moderator" permissions in which to delete pictures.
Get a flagging system for members who use uploadpicz to report innapropriate pictures.
Get a system which logs the IP's of uploader and in which somehow to block the ip of uploading any other pictures or creating accounts.
Put site back up for a trial period and see how it goes.

xxMATTGxx
25-06-2009, 11:09 PM
Can I ask a question. I know your all talking about the law here. But what if that "child/teenager or whatever" actually uploaded the image himself for some unknown reason? I'm sure it will get sorted sooner or later.

scottish
25-06-2009, 11:12 PM
Still illegal as your hosting it not him... regardless if he uploaded or someone else uploaded

xxMATTGxx
25-06-2009, 11:14 PM
Still illegal as your hosting it not him... regardless if he uploaded or someone else uploaded

True. I just see some of the replies a bit OTT. It won't be the first time or the first site to have uploaded images of that. He should of realised used his own hosting to make it more "secret" xD.

Mentor
25-06-2009, 11:16 PM
Can I ask a question. I know your all talking about the law here. But what if that "child/teenager or whatever" actually uploaded the image himself for some unknown reason? I'm sure it will get sorted sooner or later.

It would make pretty much no difference legally to who's liable? Hosting paedophilic material isn't suddenly legal just because some stupid kids uploading it themselves. Equally its just as likely an actual paedophile has just talked em in to doing it.

Whatever the reason, it should be removed immediately and the site closed down (even if temporally) and the uploaders details handed over to the police.

I cant believe people aren't taking this seriously o.0

xxMATTGxx
25-06-2009, 11:17 PM
It would make pretty much no difference legally to who's liable? Hosting paedophilic material isn't suddenly legal just because some stupid kids uploading it themselves. Equally its just as likely an actual paedophile has just talked em in to doing it.

Whatever the reason, it should be removed immediately and the site closed down (even if temporally) and the uploaders details handed over to the police.

I cant believe people aren't taking this seriously o.0

I can see the serious side but I don't really see the big deal. But that's just me. Yes I do agree that the gallery should be taken down and the images removed. It's just the way the cookie crumbles really.

scottish
25-06-2009, 11:21 PM
Regardless other sites wont have gallery with underage porn posted all over it etc, and they'll be removed, thsi threads been here fo rabout 2 days or something and still nothing been done. the images are also public for any one to view.

Mentor
25-06-2009, 11:22 PM
I can see the serious side but I don't really see the big deal. But that's just me. Yes I do agree that the gallery should be taken down and the images removed. It's just the way the cookie crumbles really.
You don't see a problem with enabling paedophiles to abuse children via service your involved in running? I honestly can't see the non-serious side.

Nixt
25-06-2009, 11:27 PM
You don't see a problem with enabling paedophiles to abuse children via service your involved in running? I honestly can't see the non-serious side.

Matt is not involved with the running of UploadPicz. Our responsibility lies solely with the Forum. Nevertheless we are here to satisfy all users across all of Habbox's sites and we appreciate the severity of the situation that has been presented to us. Unfortunately individuals with sufficient administrative access to UploadPicz have obviously not been made aware of this issue just yet but I will endeavour to see it gets removed as soon as possible.

N!ck
25-06-2009, 11:39 PM
Matt is not involved with the running of UploadPicz. Our responsibility lies solely with the Forum. Nevertheless we are here to satisfy all users across all of Habbox's sites and we appreciate the severity of the situation that has been presented to us. Unfortunately individuals with sufficient administrative access to UploadPicz have obviously not been made aware of this issue just yet but I will endeavour to see it gets removed as soon as possible.

Yes. Whoever has access to uploadpicz should disable it temporarily. Habbox are distributing child pornography over the internet. Lots of trouble to be got in there.

xxMATTGxx
25-06-2009, 11:45 PM
I will contact Nvr about the issue and see if he has any control over that site. Due to Jin being away.

Sammeth.
26-06-2009, 12:01 AM
Just an update for everyone: Nvr is aware of the situation, due to a few complications wasn't able to do stuff, luckily I whipped out my phone and texted Jin, he gave us some tidbits and nvr should be able to sort it out as soon as possible. Sorry for the delay but the unexpected setbacks obviously didn't help. This should be sorted very soon and we can assure you that we do take this with utmost seriousness as we would never condone such things.

Sorry for all the mistakes, my mind is elsewhere! :D

Cixso
26-06-2009, 12:11 AM
You don't understand how serious this is? o.O

There's images of children in an inappropriate position which if found guilty in some countries you are executed publicly.

Not only that their is a big big big jail sentence in this country for paedophiles/child pornography and humility along with it.

Nice sentence to tell your jail in mates too. You'll either get murdered/raped or suicide.

Who ever pays those bills are the first to be questioned and prosecuted.

This website should be taking now immediately, not in 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days, it needs to be taken down now whilst those images are hosted on the server.

Who is the server provider? If this website isn't going to be taken down now I'll get it taken down.

xxMATTGxx
26-06-2009, 12:14 AM
You don't understand how serious this is? o.O

There's images of children in an inappropriate position which if found guilty in some countries you are executed publicly.

Not only that their is a big big big jail sentence in this country for paedophiles/child pornography and humility along with it.

Nice sentence to tell your jail in mates too. You'll either get murdered/raped or suicide.

Who ever pays those bills are the first to be questioned and prosecuted.

This website should be taking now immediately, not in 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days, it needs to be taken down now whilst those images are hosted on the server.

I would like to apologize for a few of my posts in this thread really. I see a serious side but my head is in many places to night/this morning. I'm sure it will get sorted ASAP. :)

Cixso
26-06-2009, 12:19 AM
I've reported the website to softlayer.

scottish
26-06-2009, 12:26 AM
IP Location http://img.domaintools.com/flags/us.gif - Texas - Dallas - Softlayer Technologies Inc

i'd assume them?


edit: apparently its hosted on same server as HxF, so if HxF goes down you'll know why :P

Cixso
26-06-2009, 12:27 AM
IP Location http://img.domaintools.com/flags/us.gif - Texas - Dallas - Softlayer Technologies Inc

i'd assume them?

Speaking to a Woman called Luara, she is looking at the situation and has forwarded the information to the abuse department.

N!ck
26-06-2009, 12:34 AM
Yes, I'm sure if SoftLayer were informed with links to the offending material they would disable the server. As UP is on the same server as HxF I expect the forum will be down some time soon.

Sammeth.
26-06-2009, 12:51 AM
Yeah we do know how serious it is, and we are trying our best to solve it. Unfortunately we can't magic ourselves the correct powers to do so, and it's unfortunate it has happened alongside a series of complications and people being away. As we have previously stated we are taking this seriously, we aren't sitting back and doing nothing and we are doing all we can.

Edit: Just an edit to say I believe nvrspk4 will be suspending UploadPicz himself as soon as possible.

Frank459
26-06-2009, 12:54 AM
As ive already suggested, a simple flagging system can stop this as by the looks of it, members go through the gallery. Reporting any innapropriate pictures and having them deleted if breaking terms, will resolve the problem.

Sammeth.
26-06-2009, 12:57 AM
As ive already suggested, a simple flagging system can stop this as by the looks of it, members go through the gallery. Reporting any innapropriate pictures and having them deleted if breaking terms, will resolve the problem.
You can already report pictures I believe.

nvrspk4
26-06-2009, 12:58 AM
Hello hello,

Ok an explanation is in order. Sorry for taking so long, my explanation got delete the first time by way of back button. WOOT! So here we go. First of all, yes I did see this thread the day it was made, and I made a conscious decision not to reply to it.

After the incident with the iStealer many many Habbox passwords were change to ensure that everything was locked down, and since we had changed so much, we started early on one of our Habboxwide password changes for security purposes. Due to a slight miscommunication, I did not recieve the new UP cpanel PW or the PW that would let me CHANGE the UP Cpanel PW. Don't worry, I checked, EVERYTHING else works. JUST those two didn't work.

Jin was the only other person with those passwords, and he went away from a week, beginning Monday. Oops. We finally got through to him today and got the information through a text message at which point we began deleting the offensive images. However I had submitted a request for the suspension of UploadPicz only (which I have now rescinded) which seemed to be our only course of action given the circumstances.

Also, I do have administrative access on UploadPicz, however when the new system came out all account privileges reset and we didn't realize that. I have now given myself administrator privileges and several members of management have moderative privileges. We do have a system in place where you can report images (I just went through every abuse report and deleted three other pictures - by the way you pervs out there it wasn't only naked guys :P) and a system where those are checked. Usually Jin does the checking but in the next week we will check the abuse reports.

Please note, for anything that requires an explanation, its best to email [email protected], we will be adding information about that to the site shortly however I think the email is provided on the site already.

As for why I didn't say anything, I figured it was better not to admit that we couldn't take them down at present because if we did we would have had all sorts of immature kids going crazy and feeling powerful uploading inappropriate images because they could get away with it. So I pretended not to see this, sorry about that.

Feel free to start a new thread about problems that need to be addressed, things that can be done better etc. I am aware we messed up on this one, sorry, and steps have been made to rectify the situation. The reason I closed this thread was to alleviate confusion, I didn't want people reading only the first page or so and conversation getting derailed by people who thought that the images were still up. You can create a new thread if you wish to further discuss this but in the new thread people will know that it has been dealt with.

Thanks, and we are very sorry for the problems.

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