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-:Undertaker:-
24-06-2009, 01:57 AM
MPs’ pay would rise by 60 per cent to £100,000 a year if Tory John Bercow (http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/people/bercow_john) – favourite to win tomorrow’s vote on a new Commons Speaker – had his way. Mr Bercow, whose backing comes almost entirely from the Labour Party (http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/organisations/labour_party), believes MPs get far too little money for the work they do.

His support for the pay rise was revealed in a leaked letter to the body in charge of setting politicians’ wages. The disclosure came as Mr Bercow faced searching questions over whether he obeyed electoral rules when he started his political career as a local councillor.

In his own submission to the Senior Salaries Review Body, Mr Bercow complained about the ‘perverse’ way MPs’ pay had fallen behind over the years – and he urged it to take radical action to improve it.

He maintained that an MP deserved to earn the same as a GP or a local council boss. That would mean lifting their pay from its current level of £64,000 to around £100,000.

Mr Bercow wrote: ‘I am sceptical as to whether the correct comparators have been used for the purposes of assessing our pay. 'You stress that you do not look at how hard MPs work but at what our responsibilities are. I suggest that those responsibilities, in terms of breadth, scope and contact with the public, are comparable with those of a General Practitioner or the Chief Executive of a medium-sized local authority. The use of such a comparator would point to a significant increase in remuneration for MPs.’

Mr Bercow further justifies the wage rise on the grounds that many MPs do not have outside earnings, an argument often used by Labour.

The Daily Mail claims John Bercow said this around two years ago, he supports MPs being paid £100,000 a year, nearly £40,000 more than they are being paid right now. To think, our MPs have just elected this fool as the new speaker to 'clean up' the House of Commons. He also has some very dodgy expense claims and can't seem to make his mind up whether hes a Conservative or supports Labour - a lose cannon if you ask me. They have replaced one corrupt idiot with another - nothing has changed.

This is our MPs answer to a lot of them being found out to be claiming our money and making 'mistakes' with the usual 'lessons to be learnt'. British MPs have long breaks from parliament anyway, and many never turn up when there is a vote on, more importantly; why do they deserve a pay rise when Europe does 75%+ of their work for them anyway?

An absolute disgrace.

Favourtism
24-06-2009, 02:01 AM
I can honestly say I don't give a **** anymore. Britain is in the ****. period.

Counting down the years till I can get a US Visa

-:Undertaker:-
24-06-2009, 02:02 AM
I think North Korean/Iranian politicians have more dignity and self-respect for their country and their people than our bunch of corrupt MPs do.

Favourtism
24-06-2009, 02:05 AM
That's probably true. Most/All of the MP's are ******s. They don't give a crap about Britain, just expenses/money.

Burn them all and draught in Obama pls

GommeInc
24-06-2009, 02:07 AM
You've reminded me, have you heard the strong rumours that the EU is going to cut British pensions by 20%? I glanced at it in the newspaper a few days ago. Doing that means they've targeted the elderly and the soon to be retired = bye bye EU from Britain, they're targeting a moody population that won't take it kindly if their retirement plans go down the pot :P

Politicians should be having an annual salary of £40,000 max... They're meant to be servants shouting out the opinions of the country to each other until they go red in the face... Not bathing in money until they go... red in the face...

I so want this country to have politicians, not whatever is currently filling the seats with meat. Seriously, what are they? I feel sorry for the good MPs who are being branded as murderers too...

-:Undertaker:-
24-06-2009, 02:23 AM
You've reminded me, have you heard the strong rumours that the EU is going to cut British pensions by 20%? I glanced at it in the newspaper a few days ago. Doing that means they've targeted the elderly and the soon to be retired = bye bye EU from Britain, they're targeting a moody population that won't take it kindly if their retirement plans go down the pot :P

Politicians should be having an annual salary of £40,000 max... They're meant to be servants shouting out the opinions of the country to each other until they go red in the face... Not bathing in money until they go... red in the face...

I so want this country to have politicians, not whatever is currently filling the seats with meat. Seriously, what are they? I feel sorry for the good MPs who are being branded as murderers too...

It wouldn't suprise me, in a way the sooner the country goes bankrupt, the sooner we realise we're being robbed in blind daylight by the European Union, the sooner we realise a lot of the system is rotten from the core - the better, we need real change not just sticking another tosspot in the seat where the old tosspot was. 1979 - a changing year for the history of the country. The sooner we have another year like that, the better the long-term will be.

I agree, wasn't the whole concept of having MPs so that normal people were able to be elected to parliament and not be given diamond wages and pensions?. If anything, in the current climate their wages should be cut.

GommeInc
24-06-2009, 02:54 PM
It wouldn't suprise me, in a way the sooner the country goes bankrupt, the sooner we realise we're being robbed in blind daylight by the European Union, the sooner we realise a lot of the system is rotten from the core - the better, we need real change not just sticking another tosspot in the seat where the old tosspot was. 1979 - a changing year for the history of the country. The sooner we have another year like that, the better the long-term will be.

I agree, wasn't the whole concept of having MPs so that normal people were able to be elected to parliament and not be given diamond wages and pensions?. If anything, in the current climate their wages should be cut.
They should be cut indeed, they haven't got proper jobs like most people, and they should be the ones getting HUGE cuts on their incomes. If anyone complains, get rid of them, they didn't/shouldn't take the job for money or benefits, they took the job to make a difference on behalf of the people and to serve people. I'm amazed at how much of a joke loads of MPs and the PM, are - the joke that this isn't a democracy and that Brown wasn't really voted in, just handed a title and left to be lol'd at.

Geraint
24-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Didn't Labour vote for him just to annoy the tories though because, although Bercow is a tory, his party dislike him.

GommeInc
24-06-2009, 02:59 PM
Didn't Labour vote for him just to annoy the tories though because, although Bercow is a tory, his party dislike him.
Most likely :P I hear that is a huge rumour going around at the moment which seems to be materialising into truth.

Alkaz
24-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Bring back Blair.

GommeInc
24-06-2009, 07:17 PM
Bring back Blair.
It is probably safe to say he was decent compared to what we've got now, at least we wanted him :P What happened during his leadership is a bit sketchy though, like the war and tricky finances - maybe that's why he left it all to Brown as a scape goat :P

Tintinnabulate
24-06-2009, 07:39 PM
Blair is probably laughing now as he left at the perfect time for himself.

Err why does this idiot decide how much the MPs get?

Even a new MP could have become the commons speaker. Just tell them all this:

I WILL GIVE YOU ALL A PAY RISE
I WILL GIVE YOU ALL FREE CARS
I WILL MAKE SURE YOU ALL BECOME RICHER

Chippiewill
24-06-2009, 08:20 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wgh3P0eqLmk/SS31VOSbBNI/AAAAAAAADCQ/blQwQPnoxas/s400/swastika.png Much?

-:Undertaker:-
24-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Blair was just as bad as Brown and never even wanted to leave, he'd still be Prime Minister now if it wasn't for the basic coup the Labour Party had against him. Gladstone was 82 when he formed a government, Maggie is at 83 - there is still hope! :P

GommeInc
24-06-2009, 11:42 PM
Blair was just as bad as Brown and never even wanted to leave, he'd still be Prime Minister now if it wasn't for the basic coup the Labour Party had against him. Gladstone was 82 when he formed a government, Maggie is at 83 - there is still hope! :P
Isn't the old girl ill though? :(

PaintYourTarget
26-06-2009, 01:26 PM
I think they should get pay rises, if there's a lot of money in it, it will attract brilliant thinkers away from the Private Sector and into Government.

GommeInc
26-06-2009, 02:02 PM
I think they should get pay rises, if there's a lot of money in it, it will attract brilliant thinkers away from the Private Sector and into Government.
Explain your thought process... High wages usually attract the wrong people, who's only passion is for money. If people want to be in politics, they'll go into it for whatever salary - which usually attracts the good from the bad.

PaintYourTarget
26-06-2009, 02:06 PM
Sometimes in it for the money, not the people, can be better. I mean they'll be able to make the more ruthless decisions in life. But, a lot of people are money driven and you can't blame them for rather going private than public.

Chippiewill
26-06-2009, 05:17 PM
I think MPs should get paid for each day they go in for more than 4hours and the maximum amount they can be paid should be £100,000

GommeInc
26-06-2009, 09:36 PM
I think MPs should get paid for each day they go in for more than 4hours and the maximum amount they can be paid should be £100,000
Is that seriosuly what you think? I would say they only deserve £40,000 to £50,000 which is a helluva lot anyway. They do not need money chucked at them, the money chucked at them should go towards the country and keeping it debt free.

Emotions
30-06-2009, 10:51 AM
Haha, nice move Bercow...

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