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Nixt
25-06-2009, 11:13 PM
Feel free to continue the discussion here. This time without arguments ;-)!

RIP.

FlyingJesus
25-06-2009, 11:14 PM
I think it's all Macaulay Culkin's fault tbh, he was messing with some black magic. You seen the Aviva advert with him on right where he's like "REMEMBER ME", well clearly this news has made people talk about him again

Hazza
25-06-2009, 11:15 PM
My last point from the last thread;
How many more people are dying right now in this world? Where is the sympathy for them people - there is none. Some people need to get a grip.

Abbie.
25-06-2009, 11:15 PM
bet someone with no respect thinking they're funny posts a joke anway!

anyway RIP! x

Mrs.McCall
25-06-2009, 11:15 PM
Very sad, despite it all there are 3 kids without a father

Pyroka
25-06-2009, 11:15 PM
The only people that are arguing are probably the people who bought his concert tickets, lol ul.

Its sad, it really is and I'm genuinely sorry for his family, however the guy has went through so much in his life, he's done controversial things and has brought up his children in a strange way.. BUT, his contribution to the music world can't and won't be forgotten.

I'm just looking forward to the amount of people trying to remix Michael Jackson's songs now, gosh they'll all be cashing in like vultures. ;o

Oh crap, yeah also 3 kids without a dad is quite sad... forgot about that one. >_>

Blinger1
25-06-2009, 11:15 PM
I swear that was one of the largest threads made in about 2 hours!!

Frank459
25-06-2009, 11:15 PM
Well can we keep those damn sick jokes outta this thread then?

Condolences to his family, obviously an immediate shock to them.

GommeInc
25-06-2009, 11:15 PM
... Why did the other one get closed?! Was a pointless close, the majority of members weren't arguing or making jokes :S The other one should be re-opened due to gross mis-use of closing ability and lack of judgement :S

dirrty
25-06-2009, 11:17 PM
i think i can easily say the whole world is in shock at his death. and such a pity that his comeback tour was only a few weeks away...

Kardan
25-06-2009, 11:17 PM
My last point from the last thread;
How many more people are dying right now in this world? Where is the sympathy for them people - there is none. Some people need to get a grip.

Michael Jackson has inspired millions upon millions of people and is a worldwide icon and legend.

A baby that has died shortly after birth has not. Yes, they are still a person and their death will bring much sadness and sorrow to their loved ones - but Michael Jackson's death has a much larger effect on the worldwide community.

Hazza
25-06-2009, 11:18 PM
Very sad, despite it all there are 3 kids without a father
Your one of the people who need to get a grip to be honest - His kids may not have a father now, but how many children in this world are losing/lost a father or mother already. They arent' special :S:S

And Kardan who cares? Anyone that dies deserves sympathy - all I'm saying is he's not the only person who's died tonight - Who's more important your a relative or Michael Jackson? I'm sure a relative hasn't had that impact on the world and you'll miss them more/be more sympathetic if she died?

Blinger1
25-06-2009, 11:18 PM
My last point from the last thread;
How many more people are dying right now in this world? Where is the sympathy for them people - there is none. Some people need to get a grip.
He is a celebrity, the paparazzi followed him everywhere.. its like any other celebrity.

Not many people care if just a random person dies, its on the tv for maybe 20 seconds? Or there is a short article in a newspaper, thats about it.. its how humans operate!

Kieeran
25-06-2009, 11:20 PM
Well can we keep those damn sick jokes outta this thread then?

Condolences to his family, obviously an immediate shock to them.

dw i made a thread for them so u dont cry


neway yeah its a shame for his family mustve been a shock and heartly i agree with u entirely

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:20 PM
RIP Jacko, very sad, absolute legend.

RIP.

FlyingJesus
25-06-2009, 11:21 PM
To be fair, there isn't a lot to be said on this matter. Fans can say "RIP" and then be done because that's all they really have to say, but people making jokes can keep coming up with them and therefore actually have more reason to post. Doesn't make sense for people to post the same message of condolences 10 times

Kardan
25-06-2009, 11:22 PM
Your one of the people who need to get a grip to be honest - His kids may not have a father now, but how many children in this world are losing/lost a father or mother already. They arent' special :S:S

And Kardan who cares? Anyone that dies deserves sympathy - all I'm saying is he's not the only person who's died tonight - Who's more important your a relative or Michael Jackson? I'm sure a relative hasn't had that impact on the world and you'll miss them more/be more sympathetic if she died?

Who cares? Look all over Twitter, the news, forums - you'll see that millions of people care.

Of course I'd be more upset when a relative of mine dies, but I never used that in my example. I said if a random person that none of us knows die, of course you'll extend your sympathies to their loved ones but you probably won't think twice about it and your life will carry on as normal.

Jack.Lfc
25-06-2009, 11:22 PM
R.i.p died on my birthday, well done.

Kieeran
25-06-2009, 11:23 PM
To be fair, there isn't a lot to be said on this matter. Fans can say "RIP" and then be done because that's all they really have to say, but people making jokes can keep coming up with them and therefore actually have more reason to post. Doesn't make sense for people to post the same message of condolences 10 times

so true. which is why i made the joke thread

Hazza
25-06-2009, 11:24 PM
All I'm saying is, yeah blahblah his a celebrity, he's this, he's that. But please - You've got to remember he's not the only one... :rolleyes:

GommeInc
25-06-2009, 11:25 PM
And Kardan who cares? Anyone that dies deserves sympathy - all I'm saying is he's not the only person who's died tonight - Who's more important your a relative or Michael Jackson? I'm sure a relative hasn't had that impact on the world and you'll miss them more/be more sympathetic if she died?
What an odd comment :S So it's either someone you don't know or a relative? What about people you don't personally know physically, that have contributed in some aspect of your life? Some people do get attached to people, musicians especially like Elvis for example. Are they not allowed to mourn someone they cared about, through their talent alone? I'd be upset if Cliff Richard died, because one of his songs was played at my dad's funeral. Some people listen to Jackson's music through the good and bad times, as he is gone, those good and bad times that have had an effect on you will have the same effect, but the person who made that slightly possible won't exist...

It's like if a doctor who helped you when you were ill passed away, you would feel some sort of sadness because he/she helped you out... Unless you're not human? :rolleyes:

Kardan
25-06-2009, 11:25 PM
All I'm saying is, yeah blahblah his a celebrity, he's this, he's that. But please - You've got to remember he's not the only one... :rolleyes:

We know he's not the only one, but nobody has the ability to think about everyone that has passed away each day.

Hazza
25-06-2009, 11:26 PM
Did I say they did - no? I just said he's not the only one, and you've got to remember many many people die each day...

Pyroka
25-06-2009, 11:27 PM
Is South Park still on? Or are they making a new series now? Because I'm sure an episode on Michael Jackson's death would be nothing short of ******* hilarious.

Oh and people, turn up the calm dial on your minds, you're all going crazy and arguing eachother. You all just gotta get along, he's dead, stop moaning at people who can get to grips with that quicker than you.

-:Undertaker:-
25-06-2009, 11:27 PM
This argument comes up all the time about publicity - why do famous people get more publicity? - BECAUSE THEY ARE FAMOUS.

Titch
25-06-2009, 11:27 PM
The only people that are arguing are probably the people who bought his concert tickets, lol ul.

Its sad, it really is and I'm genuinely sorry for his family, however the guy has went through so much in his life, he's done controversial things and has brought up his children in a strange way.. BUT, his contribution to the music world can't and won't be forgotten.

I'm just looking forward to the amount of people trying to remix Michael Jackson's songs now, gosh they'll all be cashing in like vultures. ;o

Oh crap, yeah also 3 kids without a dad is quite sad... forgot about that one. >_>

I brought 2 tickets yet i am not arguing ;)

i dont even want a refund, give the money to a charity or to the family.

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:28 PM
Stop ****** arguing you ****, every person who dies deserves sympathy, whether you like them or not, that's the bottom line, now stop with the bickering for christs sake.

And if i get infracted for putting people on the straight and narrow on this occasion then this forum is pathetic.

Stop arguing.

Stefy09
25-06-2009, 11:28 PM
why did the chicken cross the road?

Kieeran
25-06-2009, 11:28 PM
Oh and people, turn up the calm dial on your minds, you're all going crazy and arguing eachother. You all just gotta get along, he's dead, stop moaning at people who can get to grips with that quicker than you.

i know i dealt with it after 2 seconds

GommeInc
25-06-2009, 11:28 PM
Did I say they did - no? I just said he's not the only one, and you've got to remember many many people die each day...
Yeah, but if Michael Jackson and his songs had some effect on your, you would be sad. Duh, why can't you undertstand that? If one of songs were played at a funeral, or if his songs were played during a fun gig or something, you would feel sad or at least some what interested in this turn of events. A nobody you know nothing about is a nobody. A "nobody" which you know something about has one up on them.

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:29 PM
Stop ****** arguing you ****, every person who dies deserves sympathy, whether you like them or not, that's the bottom line, now stop with the bickering for christs sake.

And if i get infracted for putting people on the straight and narrow on this occasion then this forum is pathetic.

Stop arguing.

Pyroka
25-06-2009, 11:29 PM
I brought 2 tickets yet i am not arguing ;)

i dont even want a refund, give the money to a charity or to the family.

Aww thats actually a nice thought, I hope they do donate it to a charity. They don't exactly need the money :P


why did the chicken cross the road?

He didnt, he had a heart attack.

GommeInc
25-06-2009, 11:30 PM
Aww thats actually a nice thought, I hope they do donate it to a charity. They don't exactly need the money :P



He didnt, he had a heart attack.
Isn't the O2 in debt? :P

Hazza
25-06-2009, 11:30 PM
Yeah, but if Michael Jackson and his songs had some effect on your, you would be sad. Duh, why can't you undertstand that? If one of songs were played at a funeral, or if his songs were played during a fun gig or something, you would feel sad or at least some what interested in this turn of events. A nobody you know nothing about is a nobody. A "nobody" which you know something about has one up on them.
When did I ever say you can't feel sad about it? Never
I feel say by it, but I'm not crying, it happens to everyone sometime, he's not the only one. Simple as.

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:33 PM
Stop ****** arguing you ****, every person who dies deserves sympathy, whether you like them or not, that's the bottom line, now stop with the bickering for christs sake.

And if i get infracted for putting people on the straight and narrow on this occasion then this forum is pathetic.

Stop arguing.

STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP :@

have some ******* respect??

GommeInc
25-06-2009, 11:33 PM
When did I ever say you can't feel sad about it? Never
I feel say by it, but I'm not crying, it happens to everyone sometime, he's not the only one. Simple as.
Some people are crying over it, not everyone has this "Oh he's dead... NEXT" attitude. Why don't you understand some people feel that sad about him?


Stop ****** arguing you ****, every person who dies deserves sympathy, whether you like them or not, that's the bottom line, now stop with the bickering for christs sake.

And if i get infracted for putting people on the straight and narrow on this occasion then this forum is pathetic.

Stop arguing.

STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP :@

have some ******* respect??
Out of everyone, you're the main culprit ;)

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:34 PM
Im the main culprit? *** have I said wrong? *Removed*

Edited by preposterous (Forum Moderator) - Please don't post inappropriately.

Hazza
25-06-2009, 11:35 PM
Some people are crying over it, not everyone has this "Oh he's dead... NEXT" attitude. Why don't you understand some people feel that sad about him?


Out of everyone, you're the main culprit ;)
Can you not read?
I said I FEEL SAD BY IT - But its not the end of the world, lets face it - a weeks time the world will be as normal, not saying it should be like this, but its life.

Pyroka
25-06-2009, 11:35 PM
Stop ****** arguing you ****, every person who dies deserves sympathy, whether you like them or not, that's the bottom line, now stop with the bickering for christs sake.

And if i get infracted for putting people on the straight and narrow on this occasion then this forum is pathetic.

Stop arguing.

STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP :@

have some ******* respect??
http://static.zooomr.com/images/3532819_d1ba87f6a6.jpg

xPrecedent
25-06-2009, 11:36 PM
http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2009/06/98219/400_mjackson_ambulance_090625.jpg

Last ever photo of MJ

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:36 PM
He's criticising me for tryna stop people from arguing.

EDIT: wow is that really him?

Captain
25-06-2009, 11:36 PM
THIS JUST IN:

Medical staff have revealed the real reason why Michael Jackson died, apparently, the Doctors blamed it on the boogie.

Jack.Lfc
25-06-2009, 11:37 PM
Now this is definitely going to be the comeback tour of all comeback tours!

Alkaz
25-06-2009, 11:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri61lBfMBu0
Wow, I counted like 8 changed probably due to surgery.

Jack.Lfc
25-06-2009, 11:38 PM
R.i.p x

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:38 PM
http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2009/06/98219/400_mjackson_ambulance_090625.jpg

Mrak-Face
25-06-2009, 11:40 PM
*Removed*


Edited by Catzsy [Forum Super Moderator]: Please do not make pointless posts.

GommeInc
25-06-2009, 11:40 PM
Im the main culprit? *** have I said wrong? *Removed*.
You're the one swearing and making a scene ;)


Can you not read?
I said I FEEL SAD BY IT - But its not the end of the world, lets face it - a weeks time the world will be as normal, not saying it should be like this, but its life.
Why can't you understand me? You seem to not compute that people take things like this harder than others :/ You're complaining that people shouldn't be in tears, yet you fail to understand that people do :S

xPrecedent
25-06-2009, 11:40 PM
http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2009/06/98219/400_mjackson_ambulance_090625.jpg
;s i just posted that and you even commented on it lol

and yeah it's real

Pyroka
25-06-2009, 11:41 PM
Oh my god.

*Removed*

Omg cringe LOL.

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:41 PM
Cause it was on bottom of the other page so i moved it up to here. :)

http://www.ismichaeljacksonalive.com/

Kardan
25-06-2009, 11:41 PM
NEVERMIND. :/

Jack.Lfc
25-06-2009, 11:45 PM
How did they get that close to take the pic :/

leah
25-06-2009, 11:46 PM
I'd like to remind you guys that the old thread was closed due to arguments and it would be a shame for this one to be closed for the same reason.

He was a bit of a strange person, but his music and dancing was amazing, RIP. x

Jack.Lfc
25-06-2009, 11:48 PM
Why did he have so many operation :s its very weird

FlyingJesus
25-06-2009, 11:48 PM
How did they get that close to take the pic :/

Zoom..

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:50 PM
LOL. i just emailed the picture that I have to SkyNews, would LOL if it gets put up on their, they better put my name up though. (H)

Sammeth.
25-06-2009, 11:51 PM
How did they get that close to take the pic :/


I doubt it was taken by paparazzi, rather medical staff looking to make money off it.

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:52 PM
It was released onto a small website, so they wouldn't of made much.

GommeInc
25-06-2009, 11:53 PM
I'd like to remind you guys that the old thread was closed due to arguments and it would be a shame for this one to be closed for the same reason.

He was a bit of a strange person, but his music and dancing was amazing, RIP. x
Threads and forums revolve around conflicting opinions e.g. arguments. It's only the daft who think arguments of any kind are evil and should be banned - arguments are things that involve swearing and don't involve swearing. The word argument revolves around putting across facts and opinions, arguing could mean twopeople putting having the same opinion. It's one thing people forget, and immediately assume arguments are things where swearing is involved.

But I digress. He will be missed. Glastonbury looks and sounds as though it will be effected quite badly.

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:55 PM
Threads and forums revolve around conflicting opinions e.g. arguments. It's only the daft who think arguments of any kind are evil and should be banned - arguments are things that involve swearing and don't involve swearing. The word argument revolves around putting across facts and opinions, arguing could mean twopeople putting having the same opinion. It's one thing people forget, and immediately assume arguments are things where swearing is involved.

But I digress. He will be missed. Glastonbury looks and sounds as though it will be effected quite badly.

an argument is an argument no need to go into detail.

of course arguments contain swearing, unless it's two gay boy panzis arguing.

Jack.Lfc
25-06-2009, 11:56 PM
I dont get why people are so upset, yes its sad that someone died, but only his family should get upset and friends that knew him. You may call me incosiderate, but its true.

GommeInc
25-06-2009, 11:58 PM
Not all arguments contain swearing?! Arguments are conflicting facts and opinions, we're arguing now! Do you see swearing? No... There are swearing arguments, and mature, calm arguments like what most people have been having in this thread (until you came around with your swearing and stars and mucked it all up :P)


I dont get why people are so upset, yes its sad that someone died, but only his family should get upset and friends that knew him. You may call me incosiderate, but its true.
-bashes head on desk-

Some people take the news of their idols very seriously!

Wolves
25-06-2009, 11:59 PM
Lol, almost every argument ends up involving *'s =P

Especially when it's a forum full of pre/pubescent teenagers.

Pyroka
25-06-2009, 11:59 PM
God this time reminds me so much of the Habbox Feedback forum back in 08... or was it 07? Good times.

Stop the arguing, you all sound like pregnant women.

Jack.Lfc
25-06-2009, 11:59 PM
-bashes head on desk-

Some people take the news of their idols very seriously!

But if one of his fans died, he wouldnt give a ****.

Pyroka
26-06-2009, 12:00 AM
But if one of his fans died, he wouldnt give a ****.

One of them did, called Jade Goody. He said he'd attend her funeral but he didn't.

I guess this is a way of saying "**** you!" for Jade Goody.

Wolves
26-06-2009, 12:02 AM
Just learnt that Michael Jackson had so much cosmic surgery to his face because he didn't want to look like his father, who physically abused him and made him watch him abuse other women/men/whatever can't fully remember, pretty sad, explains why he had so many operations though, it's understandable when you look at it like that.

LMAO THEY JUST SAID THEYVE GOT A STILL PICTURE OF HIM DEAD, I SENT THAT IN YOUR MUTHA ****AS MENTION MY NAME:@

GommeInc
26-06-2009, 12:03 AM
But if one of his fans died, he wouldnt give a ****.
Of course not, he would not of known about them and they would of have a legacy - his music touched some people in so many ways, and that touchy feeliness would have some effect on some people. It's all memories and shizzle.


Just learnt that Michael Jackson had so much cosmic surgery to his face because he didn't want to look like his father, who physically abused him and made him watch him abuse other women/men/whatever can't fully remember, pretty sad, explains why he had so many operations though, it's understandable when you look at it like that.
Really? I thought it was what Pyroka suggested below V

Pyroka
26-06-2009, 12:03 AM
Just learnt that Michael Jackson had so much cosmic surgery to his face because he didn't want to look like his father, who physically abused him and made him watch him abuse other women/men/whatever can't fully remember, pretty sad, explains why he had so many operations though, it's understandable when you look at it like that.

I thought it was because he didn't want to look black.

Pyroka
26-06-2009, 12:04 AM
Of course not, he would not of known about them and they would of have a legacy - his "music" touched some people in so many ways, and that touchy feeliness would have some effect on some people. It's all memories and shizzle.

*immature giggle* Sorry Ryan, you really do have a way of words though.

Eep crap, I thought someone posted already, be handy if you could merge or something... sorry. x[

Kieeran
26-06-2009, 12:04 AM
The real michael jackson died years ago.

FlyingJesus
26-06-2009, 12:05 AM
Just learnt that Michael Jackson had so much cosmic surgery to his face because he didn't want to look like his father, who physically abused him and made him watch him abuse other women/men/whatever can't fully remember, pretty sad, explains why he had so many operations though, it's understandable when you look at it like that.

LMAO THEY JUST SAID THEYVE GOT A STILL PICTURE OF HIM DEAD, I SENT THAT IN YOUR MUTHA ****AS MENTION MY NAME:@

Yeah I imagine you were the only one with that photo

Wolves
26-06-2009, 12:05 AM
I thought it was because he didn't want to look black.

that's what i thought (not racially intended) but obviously not, it was because he didn't want took look like his father because he was not a nice man.

Pyroka
26-06-2009, 12:07 AM
that's what i thought (not racially intended) but obviously not, it was because he didn't want took look like his father because he was not a nice man.

So his father was black and not a nice man... *giggle*

Really though, I did think it was because he wanted to be like the rest of the world as black people were the minority and he just wanted to be looked as part of the majority.

Kieeran
26-06-2009, 12:07 AM
He changed his skin colour because he had a rare skin condition where his skin was turning white? so he got bleached

Stefy09
26-06-2009, 12:07 AM
*Removed*


Edited by Catzsy [Forum Super Moderator]: Please do not make pointless posts.

Jack.Lfc
26-06-2009, 12:08 AM
Why are people so sad, as in creating websites like this : http://ismichaeljacksonazombieyet.com/

Wana get a life.

Captain
26-06-2009, 12:08 AM
Actually he had the operations because he didn't want to look like his dad.

that isnt a joke by the way.

Pyroka
26-06-2009, 12:09 AM
GUYS HE AINT DEAD HE FAKED IT

HEY IS THAT 2PAC I CAN SEE OVER THERE?

Wolves
26-06-2009, 12:09 AM
I saw this one earlier http://www.ismichaeljacksonalive.com

pathetic.

Jack.Lfc
26-06-2009, 12:10 AM
Actually he had the operations because he didn't want to look like his dad.

that isnt a joke by the way.

Go back to bed your about 2 hours behind.

:lol:

Wolves
26-06-2009, 12:10 AM
Actually he had the operations because he didn't want to look like his dad.

that isnt a joke by the way.

TY for backing me up. :)

sorry for double post if it is because this section is very popular at the mo.

FlyingJesus
26-06-2009, 12:10 AM
Why are people so sad, as in creating websites like this : http://ismichaeljacksonazombieyet.com/

Wana get a life.

Init it's terrible and people making pictures like this
http://i40.tinypic.com/2ebqrmg.jpg

I can't believe they'd be so low

Jack.Lfc
26-06-2009, 12:14 AM
Who actually reported it to the paramedics?

Stefy09
26-06-2009, 12:15 AM
Init it's terrible and people making pictures like this
http://i40.tinypic.com/2ebqrmg.jpg

I can't believe they'd be so low



LOLLLSHAGAGGAGA

http://www.fmylife.com/

DJ-James911
26-06-2009, 12:15 AM
Tune in now for my Michael Jackson tribute show on HabboxLive

Captain
26-06-2009, 12:15 AM
his staff.

Kieeran
26-06-2009, 12:15 AM
Init it's terrible and people making pictures like this
http://i40.tinypic.com/2ebqrmg.jpg

I can't believe they'd be so low

gd job u done there

FlyingJesus
26-06-2009, 12:21 AM
LOLLLSHAGAGGAGA

http://www.fmylife.com/

When I first heard he was in hospital I submitted

"Today, I am Michael Jackson. FML" but I guess they didn't publish it

DJ-James911
26-06-2009, 12:25 AM
I wonder how his kids are coping.

Alkaz
26-06-2009, 12:26 AM
Doubt his kids know yet.

FlyingJesus
26-06-2009, 12:27 AM
Yeah family always find out after the rest of the world

Swearwolf
26-06-2009, 12:28 AM
I heard about the news and me and a friend were just DJing in a local bar. I'm upset to the point of tears and we played his classics as the bar closed.

DJ-James911
26-06-2009, 12:29 AM
Its very sad but I think his kids would know by now. Nearly everyone on the world knows about it now. My local radio station is doing countdowns of MJ and the film Moonwalker (I think thats what its called) is on tele tonight.

Kieeran
26-06-2009, 12:30 AM
I heard about the news and me and a friend were just DJing in a local bar. I'm upset to the point of tears and we played his classics as the bar closed.

thats pathetic, ok do a tribute act but being upset to point of tears is stupid

DJ-James911
26-06-2009, 12:32 AM
thats pathetic, ok do a tribute act but being upset to point of tears is stupid

Some people are huge fans of him and have grown up listening to his music and watching him grow, its a pretty big thing to turn on the tele and hear this news if you are one of those people. You must think that millions of people around the world are stupid because there are alot of tears.

GommeInc
26-06-2009, 12:32 AM
When I first heard he was in hospital I submitted

"Today, I am Michael Jackson. FML" but I guess they didn't publish it
When I saw it on TV and they started playing recordings of him it took a few minutes for me to realise they were recordings and not him walking out getting scanned by security men :(

FlyingJesus
26-06-2009, 12:33 AM
What did MJ consider a "perfect ten"?

Two five year olds

Swearwolf
26-06-2009, 12:35 AM
Being upset to the point of tears aint pathetic when you like someone and think they're both a legend and an influence

DJ-James911
26-06-2009, 12:36 AM
I have heard people calling today "the day music died" and "this is like the time when Elvis died, or even John Lennon"

Stefy09
26-06-2009, 12:39 AM
What did MJ consider a "perfect ten"?

Two five year olds

-rep dat is inappropriate.

omg I can't believe they deleted the joke thread LOL I swear this forum has become a prison or something

Captain
26-06-2009, 12:40 AM
-rep dat is inappropriate.

omg I can't believe they deleted the joke thread LOL I swear this forum has become a prison or something


hey, stop voicing your opinion. This isn't the place to do that.

DJ-James911
26-06-2009, 12:41 AM
I have recieved a text message with a joke. I suppose it is funny, but not this soon afer his death.

Maybe in a few weeks, but 2 hours after he died, thats just wrong.

Kieeran
26-06-2009, 12:47 AM
-rep dat is inappropriate.

omg I can't believe they deleted the joke thread LOL I swear this forum has become a prison or something

*** the thread got deleted thats so insensitive

DJ-James911
26-06-2009, 12:47 AM
Hasn't been any updates for about an hour now, waiting for a press conference.

Stefy09
26-06-2009, 01:00 AM
Guys news just in..


Greenpeace have started a campaign against his cremation because of the toxic cloud. Burial isn't an option cos he isn't biodegradable.

leah
26-06-2009, 01:55 AM
Init it's terrible and people making pictures like this
http://i40.tinypic.com/2ebqrmg.jpg

I can't believe they'd be so low
did you make that?

What did MJ consider a "perfect ten"?

Two five year olds
lmao!

Yeah Joe, I think all of his family would have been aware before the press and the public :P

FlyingJesus
26-06-2009, 02:22 AM
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diazed129
26-06-2009, 03:14 AM
And do you remember Invincible (http://www.dealstudio.com/ad_redirect.php?url=http%3A//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search%3Fmode%3Dblended%26tag%3Ddealstudio0a-20%26keyword%3DB00005Q4JH&ru=281) by Michael Jackson.

Slowpoke
26-06-2009, 03:26 AM
People who are worried about their tickets for his concerts need not be. You'll get so much £££ for them on eBay.

PaulMacC
26-06-2009, 04:14 AM
To everyone throwing under the table insults here please leave this thread. A man has died here and you all are being so disrepectful. Espesically a few older members of the forum -.-''
Well what can I say, I went to bed at 9pm and woke at 5am, found out he died. He'll be missed, I know I wont miss him that much but he contributed a whole lot to the musical industry and Im sure underneath he was a nice man. RIP

DJ-James911
26-06-2009, 04:50 AM
Good words :)

Wahey
26-06-2009, 06:25 AM
Never a fan of the man and his music, but shame he died
R.I.P

Antallica
26-06-2009, 06:45 AM
such a shame.
legend.
rip.
edit;
i think its so sick for some people on this forum to be calling him. A succesful legend of the music industry and the world has just passed away.

Tintinnabulate
26-06-2009, 06:53 AM
Your one of the people who need to get a grip to be honest - His kids may not have a father now, but how many children in this world are losing/lost a father or mother already. They arent' special :S:S

And Kardan who cares? Anyone that dies deserves sympathy - all I'm saying is he's not the only person who's died tonight - Who's more important your a relative or Michael Jackson? I'm sure a relative hasn't had that impact on the world and you'll miss them more/be more sympathetic if she died?

I havent seen the old thread but looking at your last two posts, I think you are insane.
Yes, everyone who dies deserves sympathy. But theres a huge thing about Michael Jackson as he was famous world wide with millions of fans. For those fans, he was their hero, so basically millions of people's hero just died, hence there is a big deal about it.

Yes, people die every minute and people do sympathize for them ... their loved ones. People do feel sorry for them, but if they didnt know the person they wont be as saddened by it.
Michael had a big affect on alot of people hence its on the news.

@ anyone posting jokes about a dead person, you are absolutely sick.
Oh, I am sure you will love it if one of your family members died and people started posting jokes, edited images about them.

THINK BEFORE YOU ACT.

buttons
26-06-2009, 06:56 AM
I dont get why people are so upset, yes its sad that someone died, but only his family should get upset and friends that knew him. You may call me incosiderate, but its true.
You're right, you guys don't even know him and he could be a totally different person off camera and you'd still love him, you don't even know him and can't care for him just by liking his music.

Tune in now for my Michael Jackson tribute show on HabboxLive
what the **** :S

Some people are huge fans of him and have grown up listening to his music and watching him grow, its a pretty big thing to turn on the tele and hear this news if you are one of those people. You must think that millions of people around the world are stupid because there are alot of tears.
I grew up hearing he was a ****, could've just been bad publicity but whatever

To everyone throwing under the table insults here please leave this thread. A man has died here and you all are being so disrepectful. Espesically a few older members of the forum -.-''
Well what can I say, I went to bed at 9pm and woke at 5am, found out he died. He'll be missed, I know I wont miss him that much but he contributed a whole lot to the musical industry and Im sure underneath he was a nice man. RIP
WHAT LOL. How come, someone famous dies and everyone is expected to care? Yet someone makes a thread about their own family and they get shouted at because we don't know them? OH cause he's famous:rolleyes: anyway whatever Michael Jackson has asked for his ashes to be scattered in a sand pit so children can play with him forever. Oopz, bite me.

wow, why are so many defensive? not everyone likes him, get over it.

Samishlol
26-06-2009, 06:57 AM
Heartly your such a disrespect idiot.

Yes people die everday but this guy was a global star, he inspired millions of people.

efq
26-06-2009, 06:58 AM
You're right, you guys don't even know him and he could be a totally different person off camera and you'd still love him, you don't even know him and can't care for him just by liking his music.

what the **** :S

I grew up hearing he was a ****, could've just been bad publicity but whatever

WHAT LOL. How come, someone famous dies and everyone is expected to care? Yet someone makes a thread about their own family and they get shouted at because we don't know them? OH cause he's famous:rolleyes: anyway whatever Michael Jackson has asked for his ashes to be scattered in a sand pit so children can play with him forever. Oopz, bite me.

wow, why are so many defensive? not everyone likes him, get over it.
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buttons
26-06-2009, 07:00 AM
don't know **** all? about what? and what exactly do you know? you're just dead rude :S some people got other opinions

efq
26-06-2009, 07:02 AM
don't know **** all? about what? and what exactly do you know? you're just dead rude :S some people got other opinions
If your going to post sick comments then don't even bother. You know you can't and you know you will be flamed for it. The fact you don't know MJ or his music obviously because you wouldn't be saying all that.

buttons
26-06-2009, 07:04 AM
how on earth can you say i don't know his music or mj? of course i do, people form opinions on what they've seen which is what i've done, i can post what i want tyvm and don't care if i get flamed, there's plenty other people here with a sense of humour so i'm not alone

efq
26-06-2009, 07:05 AM
how on earth can you say i don't know his music or mj? of course i do, people form opinions on what they've seen which is what i've done, i can post what i want tyvm and don't care if i get flamed, there's plenty other people here with a sense of humour so i'm not alone
You will end up getting it removed or a nice warning or infraction after even a Smod posted above telling all of you kind of people off.

Bun
26-06-2009, 07:05 AM
i didn't even like him but even i feel down about it, it's michael jackson for christ's sake.

TheMagicTramp
26-06-2009, 07:06 AM
If your going to post sick comments then don't even bother. You know you can't and you know you will be flamed for it. The fact you don't know MJ or his music obviously because you wouldn't be saying all that.

'or his music obviously'

LOL you don't even know she listens to it

Tintinnabulate
26-06-2009, 07:06 AM
You're right, you guys don't even know him and he could be a totally different person off camera and you'd still love him, you don't even know him and can't care for him just by liking his music.

what the **** :S

I grew up hearing he was a ****, could've just been bad publicity but whatever

WHAT LOL. How come, someone famous dies and everyone is expected to care? Yet someone makes a thread about their own family and they get shouted at because we don't know them? OH cause he's famous:rolleyes: anyway whatever Michael Jackson has asked for his ashes to be scattered in a sand pit so children can play with him forever. Oopz, bite me.

wow, why are so many defensive? not everyone likes him, get over it.

Not everyone is expected to care, but people on this forum need to stop disrespecting people who do care. It is ridiculous and they should be ashamed of themselves.

People who are bashing MJ wont like it if one of their family members died and people start laughing will they?

For some of his fans, he was their hero and they looked upto him.

Samishlol
26-06-2009, 07:06 AM
Respect buttons opinions please.

This is a picture of the ambulance call..
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00833/25-06-2009-682_833066a.jpg

TheMagicTramp
26-06-2009, 07:09 AM
You can't tell us what to do Sam

buttons
26-06-2009, 07:11 AM
You will end up getting it removed or a nice warning or infraction after even a Smod posted above telling all of you kind of people off.
then i'll go find every 'sick' joke posted about a dead celebrity and ask for them all to be kindly removed and everyone infracted!!!!!! oh n you'll get one too the way you reacted to me :S

Not everyone is expected to care, but people on this forum need to stop disrespecting people who do care. It is ridiculous and they should be ashamed of themselves.

People who are bashing MJ wont like it if one of their family members died and people start laughing will they?

For some of his fans, he was their hero and they looked upto him.
actually, i know what it's like for you family to die and be all over the news meaning everyone in your area talkin bout it "/ and yeh but if they have to respect a dead famous person then they have to respect other people's families too and no-one does that here

Respect buttons opinions please.

This is a picture of the ambulance call..
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00833/25-06-2009-682_833066a.jpg
wow a fan who can respect other's opinions, if you were all like that there'd be no need for arguments

PaulMacC
26-06-2009, 07:12 AM
WHAT LOL. How come, someone famous dies and everyone is expected to care? Yet someone makes a thread about their own family and they get shouted at because we don't know them? OH cause he's famous:rolleyes: anyway whatever Michael Jackson has asked for his ashes to be scattered in a sand pit so children can play with him forever. Oopz, bite me.

Someone has died, show some respect. Doesnt matter who it is, just show some respect.

buttons
26-06-2009, 07:14 AM
kk, bin laden is captured and is dead. am i meant to show some respect?

PaulMacC
26-06-2009, 07:16 AM
Thats a completly different story, you cant compare a terrorist to a worldwide superstar who inspired millions of people. But yes you still should show some respect, maybe not a lot but show some at least as there are people who will be missed no matter who by.

buttons
26-06-2009, 07:19 AM
yeah a superstar accused of child abuse, have my respect michael :D:O;):S:) it's funny so many people fall out over someone famous, it's also pathetic :S

Favourtism
26-06-2009, 07:19 AM
One less paedophile in the world.....nethertheless his songs were mint

Tintinnabulate
26-06-2009, 07:21 AM
kk, bin laden is captured and is dead. am i meant to show some respect?

You really do lack common sense.
Comparing a terrorist to a pop star? Yes a brilliant comparison. :rolleyes:

PaulMacC
26-06-2009, 07:22 AM
yeah a superstar accused of child abuse, have my respect michael :D:O;):S:) it's funny so many people fall out over someone famous, it's also pathetic :S
Again he was found not guilty of all the charges.
OT - Anyone watching GMTV, they're showing the scenes of the hospital live, 1000's of fans outside singing Im Bad :P

Wahey
26-06-2009, 07:24 AM
Actually forget this post

efq
26-06-2009, 07:34 AM
Again he was found not guilty of all the charges.
OT - Anyone watching GMTV, they're showing the scenes of the hospital live, 1000's of fans outside singing Im Bad :P
Yeah i'm watching GMTV.

Favourtism
26-06-2009, 07:35 AM
Again he was found not guilty of all the charges.
OT - Anyone watching GMTV, they're showing the scenes of the hospital live, 1000's of fans outside singing Im Bad :P
The judge said 'he probably is a child molester but we dont have enough evidence' ;)

I hate him but are still affected by this :S

Samishlol
26-06-2009, 08:00 AM
I never said I didn't disrespect you jen :S

Antony
26-06-2009, 08:22 AM
Thats a completly different story, you cant compare a terrorist to a worldwide superstar who inspired millions of people. But yes you still should show some respect, maybe not a lot but show some at least as there are people who will be missed no matter who by.

This is a discussion forum..? That means not everyone browsing the forum would necessarily have the same look on paying respect that you do. Not everyone liked Michael Jackson....

Plank
26-06-2009, 09:02 AM
Sick, there are photos of his body (well, head) circling online now after he stopped breathing, trying to bring him back and being taken to hospital I think.

DieselShaq
26-06-2009, 10:03 AM
Well, that's what you get for being half a Barbie doll.

ThePowerKiz
26-06-2009, 10:06 AM
RIP Michael, RIP to all the death's in the world ;(

BoyBetterKnow
26-06-2009, 10:09 AM
My last point from the last thread;
How many more people are dying right now in this world? Where is the sympathy for them people - there is none. Some people need to get a grip.

You are niave. Michael Jackson contributed and almost EVERYONE benefited from it. He was amazing and full of talent. I'm gutted.

DieselShaq
26-06-2009, 10:14 AM
You are niave. Michael Jackson contributed and almost EVERYONE benefited from it. He was amazing and full of talent. I'm gutted.
As much as I love his songs, the truth is that a lot of children are safe now.

Tintinnabulate
26-06-2009, 10:35 AM
As much as I love his songs, the truth is that a lot of children are safe now.

Yes because I hear most peoples children were in hiding. :rolleyes: And that he went around abusing every child he could see.

lissilo
26-06-2009, 10:49 AM
My last point from the last thread;
How many more people are dying right now in this world? Where is the sympathy for them people - there is none. Some people need to get a grip.


How dumb can you get? He is famous, his history and the stuff his done is amazing for a lot of people. His a king of music and most music won't be like it is if he wasn't here.

The people that die everyday hasn't got fame, thats life. But he has fame.

Samishlol
26-06-2009, 10:56 AM
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Pyroka
26-06-2009, 10:58 AM
This is a discussion forum..? That means not everyone browsing the forum would necessarily have the same look on paying respect that you do. Not everyone liked Michael Jackson....

Jesus christ, is that you Antony? Or is it Anthony... Erk. >_>

Either way, this post is quoted for pure truth. Jesus, so true.

Chippiewill
26-06-2009, 11:11 AM
Pseudophiles don't deserve to live...


Some of you need to grow up. If you don't have a nice comment then **** off.

Everyone has a right to express their opinion...

lissilo
26-06-2009, 11:16 AM
Pseudophiles don't deserve to live...



Everyone has a right to express their opinion...

But some ******* opinions aren't needed. How about you have kids and you die then the world made a joke out of it? seriously you woulnt like it so why say **** and opinions about man that died about 13 hours ago.

Hazza
26-06-2009, 11:31 AM
How dumb can you get? He is famous, his history and the stuff his done is amazing for a lot of people. His a king of music and most music won't be like it is if he wasn't here.

The people that die everyday hasn't got fame, thats life. But he has fame.
How dumb can you get more like? I agree with buttons to a certain extent, you can't expect everyone to care - Its just another 1 out of the millions that die.

Stefy09
26-06-2009, 11:55 AM
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FlyingJesus
26-06-2009, 12:00 PM
@ anyone posting jokes about a dead person, you are absolutely sick.
Oh, I am sure you will love it if one of your family members died and people started posting jokes, edited images about them.

THINK BEFORE YOU ACT.

Yeah I probably wouldn't be thrilled but then again I wouldn't give out pictures of my dead family anyway :S how many members of the Jackson Five do you imagine visit HxF?


Someone has died, show some respect. Doesnt matter who it is, just show some respect.

Why? He never showed me respect and I have no obligation to do so

Kieeran
26-06-2009, 12:15 PM
Yeah I probably wouldn't be thrilled but then again I wouldn't give out pictures of my dead family anyway :S how many members of the Jackson Five do you imagine visit HxF?



Why? He never showed me respect and I have no obligation to do so

Exactly. What do we owe mj i know he is a good dancer and good a good singer but thats not helped me in anyway

Jack.Lfc
26-06-2009, 12:35 PM
I agree with buttons and what she says

Lost_Addict
26-06-2009, 12:35 PM
Ughhhhh I was on my school leavers prom when it happened only found out because the DJ did a tribute song the boat was in a bit of shock thinking it was just a joke

R.I.P MJ

MJJ
26-06-2009, 12:39 PM
Can't be bothered to read this entire thread, although I'm pretty sure I don't want to either.

Anyway, RIP.

Lost_Addict
26-06-2009, 12:47 PM
Ya best not there is a lot of chilidhs acts in this thread -.- if you go on this thread its just to say R.I.P what is the point of coming on here just to piss people off?

I liked MJ's music only reason i pay my respects as he was talented of cource thousands of people die each day and it is very sad but he is / was one of the most famous people on the earth at that current time hence why it was such a big deal. it wouldbe the same if david becham, the queen or even obama died. It's just the way the world works so theres nothing we can do about it in my opinion it should be announced of his death then up to his family what they wont to do from there.

But he was a global icon and one of the most inspirational artists in music along with elvis and the beetles. so please just post if your paying your respects. if you want to make a thread about everyone dying in the world please feel free as im sure everyone wouldhave a convo there just not here.

wow that was a rant .....

le harry
26-06-2009, 01:12 PM
I'm assuming a majority of people here just think "oh michael jackson lmao pedophile no big deal blah ******* blah who cares". You have to respect his contribution to the music industry. What he's done is ******* amazing. His music is real and his child-related charges were alleged. Why do people have to think about the negatives. Heartly, I'm sure if your hero or influence died you'd be pretty upset about it. It's the same with others. Can't really think of anybody since Princess Diana who has died with the amount of influece he's had.

=/ Rip.

Plank
26-06-2009, 01:24 PM
TV Schedule changes tonight:

BBC News Special: Michael Jackson on BBC 1 from 7:30pm to 8pm

Michael Jackson: the King of Pop on Channel 4 from 8pm to 9pm

Michael Jackson: King of Pop on Five from 8pm to 9pm

The Real Michael Jackson on Sky 1 from 8pm to 9pm

Lost_Addict
26-06-2009, 01:25 PM
Also most people who say is a phedofile are really ignorant.

1. only the newspapers said he WAS a phedofile and newspapers lie -.-
2. There was no proff of any phedofilia, he grew up with no childhood if you didnt know and that was the main reason he talks to the children
3. HE WAS PROVEN !"£$%^&*( INNOCENT gawd i hate those people

Roboevil
26-06-2009, 01:28 PM
Also most people who say is a phedofile are really ignorant.

1. only the newspapers said he WAS a phedofile and newspapers lie -.-
2. There was no proff of any phedofilia, he grew up with no childhood if you didnt know and that was the main reason he talks to the children
3. HE WAS PROVEN !"£$%^&*( INNOCENT gawd i hate those people
Yeah, except he was a paedophile.

Plank
26-06-2009, 01:30 PM
MJ will be dominating the music charts over the next few weeks I suspect.

MJJ
26-06-2009, 01:30 PM
I sincerely hope the media leaves Michael's kids alone now. They've lost their father.

May he find the peace now I don't think he ever had.

Lost_Addict
26-06-2009, 01:32 PM
and your proof robo?

drama
26-06-2009, 01:38 PM
Your one of the people who need to get a grip to be honest - His kids may not have a father now, but how many children in this world are losing/lost a father or mother already. They arent' special :S:S

And Kardan who cares? Anyone that dies deserves sympathy - all I'm saying is he's not the only person who's died tonight - Who's more important your a relative or Michael Jackson? I'm sure a relative hasn't had that impact on the world and you'll miss them more/be more sympathetic if she died?
so you woudn't be offended if somone close to you (relatives/friend) died and everyone was like: oh well nothing special millions of people die every day?

obviously i'm not a relative or friend of MJ, but that arguement of 'millions of people are dying' is so very, very flawed.

Jack.Lfc
26-06-2009, 01:40 PM
i luv this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6bARIaMhCM

GommeInc
26-06-2009, 02:06 PM
Is it wrong for me to think "I don't care if he was a pedophile or not"? He seemed like a troubled man anyway, and what really should be looked at are the contributions he made as a song writer and an entertainer - it seems he was quite a decent person behind all these stories. Some people are just focusing on the pedophile stories, because they really have nothing better to be interested in -.-

Plank
26-06-2009, 02:17 PM
TV Schedule changes tonight:

Michael Jackson: King of Pop on Five from 7pm to 8pm

Five have changed their schedule again, correction above.

In tonights Eastenders, some special scenes are being edited in, with references to MJ and his songs in the background.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/a162236/eastenders-films-michael-jackson-reference.html

GommeInc
26-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Five have changed their schedule again, correction above.

In tonights Eastenders, some special scenes are being edited in, with references to MJ and his songs in the background.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/a162236/eastenders-films-michael-jackson-reference.html
Seriously? That's kinda awesome :P Loose Women changed their schedule too, very suddenly aswell in only a small amount of time! I feel sorry that the woman who died didn't get a mention though...

chantellehugs
26-06-2009, 02:21 PM
Micheal Jackson was a great person, I don't believe the pedofile stories, because as people have said, newspapers lie, it's how they make money.
I hope he rests in peace.
To the King Of Pop.

MJJ
26-06-2009, 02:22 PM
MJ will be dominating the music charts over the next few weeks I suspect.

Yeah, I agree. I was just on iTunes and he's taking over the charts.

Also his sales on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/music/ref=pd_dp_ts_m_1

paul4wolves
26-06-2009, 02:25 PM
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Plank
26-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Seriously? That's kinda awesome :P Loose Women changed their schedule too, very suddenly aswell in only a small amount of time! I feel sorry that the woman who died didn't get a mention though...

Yeah, a lot of programs that have been live today are mostly about Michael Jackson.


Yeah, I agree. I was just on iTunes and he's taking over the charts.

Also his sales on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/music/ref=pd_dp_ts_m_1

He must be getting loads of sales, I wouldn't be surprised if some of his singles or albums reach number 1.

Hazza
26-06-2009, 02:32 PM
Seriously? That's kinda awesome :P Loose Women changed their schedule too, very suddenly aswell in only a small amount of time! I feel sorry that the woman who died didn't get a mention though...
Yes she did on Loose Women if you watched it :P

leah
26-06-2009, 02:44 PM
TV Schedule changes tonight:

BBC News Special: Michael Jackson on BBC 1 from 7:30pm to 8pm

Michael Jackson: the King of Pop on Channel 4 from 8pm to 9pm

Michael Jackson: King of Pop on Five from 8pm to 9pm

The Real Michael Jackson on Sky 1 from 8pm to 9pm
gutted, i'm out tonight.

Yeah I probably wouldn't be thrilled but then again I wouldn't give out pictures of my dead family anyway :S how many members of the Jackson Five do you imagine visit HxF?
all of them

Plank
26-06-2009, 03:07 PM
TV Schedule changes tonight:

BBC News Special: Michael Jackson on BBC 1 from 7:30pm to 8pm

Michael Jackson: the King of Pop on Channel 4 from 8pm to 9pm

Michael Jackson: King of Pop on Five from 7pm to 8pm

The Real Michael Jackson on Sky 1 from 8pm to 9pm
New addition...

The Story of Michael Jackson on ITV1 from 9pm to 10pm

AgnesIO
26-06-2009, 03:13 PM
ANYONE that does any of these:


Calls their kids "Michael Prince" and "Prince Michael"
Bleaches their skin - which led to cancer
Pays a girl for kids
Bleaches their skin, then sings a song saying skin colour doesn't matter.

Should die.

---

Sorry but we can all have an opinion.

--------------

HOWEVER You cannot say he did have incredible talents, he was very strange but that does not take away talent he had.

RIP in someways :)

-:Undertaker:-
26-06-2009, 03:20 PM
His music was amazing and he was talented, however I still think he did something with those kids - hence the massive payoff one of them got. You don't pay someone off if you haven't done anything, given his Neverland ranch, 'Jesus Juice' and so on, I think he was guilty i'm afraid.

However since he wasn't proved guilty I can't really hold it against him, and I still love his music.

dirrty
26-06-2009, 03:24 PM
ANYONE that does any of these:


Pays a girl for kids

Should die.

so if someone can't have children and so decide to use a surrogate mother, they should die :S:S

Plank
26-06-2009, 03:28 PM
ANYONE that does any of these:


Calls their kids "Michael Prince" and "Prince Michael"
Bleaches their skin - which led to cancer
Pays a girl for kids
Bleaches their skin, then sings a song saying skin colour doesn't matter.

Should die.

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Sorry but we can all have an opinion.

--------------

HOWEVER You cannot say he did have incredible talents, he was very strange but that does not take away talent he had.

RIP in someways :)
Seriously, are these your standards someone must meet to deserve to die?

Wolves
26-06-2009, 03:56 PM
ANYONE that does any of these:
Calls their kids "Michael Prince" and "Prince Michael"
Bleaches their skin - which led to cancer
Pays a girl for kids
Bleaches their skin, then sings a song saying skin colour doesn't matter.
Should die.

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Sorry but we can all have an opinion.

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HOWEVER You cannot say he did have incredible talents, he was very strange but that does not take away talent he had.

RIP in someways

are you a total noob? or is that just the vibe i'm getting?? it's already been said thousands of times in these numerous Jackson threads that he bleached his skin because he didn't want to look like his dad - who physically and some say sexually abused him, he also made Michael Jackson watch him abuse other women. Would you really want to look like your dad, after he'd done things like that to you? I don't think so.

Also;
Pays a girl for kids

If he was guilty, he'd still get sent down EVEN if he paid them off, just because he paid someone off doesn't mean he can't still get sent down, maybe he paid them off because he felt sorry for all the media coverage that the child and the family got? we will never know, but I doubt he did anything with those children, as he would have gone down for it, in 2005 and 1995. (whenever his other child abuse case was) And If you meant paid a women for kids then you're wrong because that would also be against the law, not in which the way you 'described'.

-:Undertaker:-
26-06-2009, 04:36 PM
The legal implications of the pay off mean that they cannot speak out, it is all legally sorted out by lawyers and so on, otherwise they could easily of accepted the money and then gone to the police. He gives them money so they dont speak about it - sorted. The Dad argument, maybe his Dad was a little strict but I think its overblown, his father called him big nose - so what? - does that mean he had to disfigure his face, have sleepovers with children which raised interesting questions and generally act in a strange way?

I am a fan of his music, but I don't think there is really an excuse for his behaviour, child abuse or not, he still was very strange.

Lost_Addict
26-06-2009, 04:44 PM
also his dad disallowed MJ a childhood forcing him to practice non stop. hence why he built never land

AgnesIO
26-06-2009, 05:16 PM
are you a total noob? or is that just the vibe i'm getting?? it's already been said thousands of times in these numerous Jackson threads that he bleached his skin because he didn't want to look like his dad - who physically and some say sexually abused him, he also made Michael Jackson watch him abuse other women. Would you really want to look like your dad, after he'd done things like that to you? I don't think so.

Also;

If he was guilty, he'd still get sent down EVEN if he paid them off, just because he paid someone off doesn't mean he can't still get sent down, maybe he paid them off because he felt sorry for all the media coverage that the child and the family got? we will never know, but I doubt he did anything with those children, as he would have gone down for it, in 2005 and 1995. (whenever his other child abuse case was) And If you meant paid a women for kids then you're wrong because that would also be against the law, not in which the way you 'described'.

I NEVER said that he paid KIDS for babies. He paid a WOMAN (fully grown) for kids. Explain how his kids were never 100% white or black? Hmm strange :l

If my dad sexually abused me I wouldn't go and bleach my skin, or jump in mud. Only a VERY STRANGE freak would do that.

And we already know we don't get along Wolves, but honestly 'noob', you think that gets around forum rules?

Yeh.. right.

MJJ
26-06-2009, 05:26 PM
The legal implications of the pay off mean that they cannot speak out, it is all legally sorted out by lawyers and so on, otherwise they could easily of accepted the money and then gone to the police. He gives them money so they dont speak about it - sorted.

The settlement did NOT prevent the boy from testifying in the criminal trial. It makes no sense to say that Michael bought his silence. It was Jordan's own decision not to testify.

If Michael wanted to pay off his accuser, why didn't he do it at the very beginning? Evan Chandler made a demand for $20 million before authorities knew about the alleged abuse. If Michael wanted to buy their silence, like many people claim he did, why didn't he do it right then? Before the police trashed his home, before he was publicly humiliated, before he was subjected to a dehumanizing search of his private parts? He could have bought their silence right from the get go and avoided the whole ordeal. Instead he rejected Evan Chandler's initial demand for money. Why would a guilty man do that?

Perhaps a more telling question is why would you accept money from someone who allegedly molested your child instead of fighting to put them behind bars?

Plank
26-06-2009, 05:41 PM
I think the whole debate about whether he was a peado or not is completely pointless and will lead no where. No one can prove he was one, and no one can prove he wasn't.


I NEVER said that he paid KIDS for babies. He paid a WOMAN (fully grown) for kids. Explain how his kids were never 100% white or black? Hmm strange :l

If my dad sexually abused me I wouldn't go and bleach my skin, or jump in mud. Only a VERY STRANGE freak would do that.

And we already know we don't get along Wolves, but honestly 'noob', you think that gets around forum rules?

Yeh.. right.
Or someone with lots of money who can afford as much plastic surgery as they want.

-:Undertaker:-
26-06-2009, 05:45 PM
The settlement did NOT prevent the boy from testifying in the criminal trial. It makes no sense to say that Michael bought his silence. It was Jordan's own decision not to testify.

If Michael wanted to pay off his accuser, why didn't he do it at the very beginning? Evan Chandler made a demand for $20 million before authorities knew about the alleged abuse. If Michael wanted to buy their silence, like many people claim he did, why didn't he do it right then? Before the police trashed his home, before he was publicly humiliated, before he was subjected to a dehumanizing search of his private parts? He could have bought their silence right from the get go and avoided the whole ordeal. Instead he rejected Evan Chandler's initial demand for money. Why would a guilty man do that?

Perhaps a more telling question is why would you accept money from someone who allegedly molested your child instead of fighting to put them behind bars?

Settlements negociated with money like that do require silence, otherwise it would of gone to court. This is the man who says its perfectly fine to sleep in the same room as children who are no related to him, a man who had sleepovers with little children and seemed to lose interest when they reached puberty and a man who allegedly gave kid/s 'jesus' juice which was alcohol.

Maybe because they were shallow and would rather take the money/needed the money? - You'd have to ask the family, but in court cases over the years pay offs have existed.

Either he was mentally out of his mind, was a child abuser, or was both. We can't prove/disprove either side, but whatever the truth was he remains to be seen a very, very, very strange man.

Robbie
26-06-2009, 05:45 PM
I NEVER said that he paid KIDS for babies. He paid a WOMAN (fully grown) for kids. Explain how his kids were never 100% white or black? Hmm strange :l

If my dad sexually abused me I wouldn't go and bleach my skin, or jump in mud. Only a VERY STRANGE freak would do that.

And we already know we don't get along Wolves, but honestly 'noob', you think that gets around forum rules?

Yeh.. right.

How do you possibly know what you'd do if your dad sexually abused you? You've never been in that position so couldn't possibly comment or make an informed judgement on Michael Jackson's behaviour or mental wellbeing.

I'd imagine that it's horrendous and that all victims react very differently, and each way is unique, hence Michael Jackson's behaviour.

Plank
26-06-2009, 06:22 PM
The 911 call has been released.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/26/michael-jackson-the-911-call/

Jack.Lfc
26-06-2009, 07:39 PM
They think his doctor was up to something, they cant find him anywhere.

Robbie
26-06-2009, 07:42 PM
Hes back in LA now though

Kieeran
26-06-2009, 07:48 PM
Exactly. What do we owe mj i know he is a good dancer and good a good singer but thats not helped me in anyway

k someone -repped me for this post saying 'i bet you listen to some form of pop music' :S just wondering who it was because just because i listen to his music doesnt mean it helped me

Jack.Lfc
26-06-2009, 08:39 PM
His music and dancing was amazing i must admit, just watching some of them tribute shows now.

nvrspk4
28-06-2009, 01:23 AM
are you a total noob? or is that just the vibe i'm getting?? it's already been said thousands of times in these numerous Jackson threads that he bleached his skin because he didn't want to look like his dad - who physically and some say sexually abused him, he also made Michael Jackson watch him abuse other women. Would you really want to look like your dad, after he'd done things like that to you? I don't think so.

While I understand that child abuse can be scarring, you're making it sound like bleaching your skin is a valid response :S I think that's still a sign of some disturbance.

Additionally, just because someone was mistreated as a child does not make their adult life ok. Many serial killers had abusive fathers, should they be let off to play in green pastures under government supervision? No, they're put in a rubber room.


If he was guilty, he'd still get sent down EVEN if he paid them off, just because he paid someone off doesn't mean he can't still get sent down, maybe he paid them off because he felt sorry for all the media coverage that the child and the family got? we will never know, but I doubt he did anything with those children, as he would have gone down for it, in 2005 and 1995. (whenever his other child abuse case was) And If you meant paid a women for kids then you're wrong because that would also be against the law, not in which the way you 'described'.

Not necessarily true, the contents of that agreement will never be known, and that settlement could have necessitated silence and no pressing charges. I would suppose that it also included a confidentiality clause as settlements like that typically do, so we will never know for certain if that was the case, but saying that it could have still gone to court isn't a certainty too, and its VERY probably that it contained confidentiality clauses as well as a clause that said this could not go to court.

Does that even ensure MJ's guilt? Maybe. Maybe not. We'll never known, but saying definitively either way is a mistake. In the end, its your opinion, and I doubt anyone will ever be proved right.

-:Undertaker:-
28-06-2009, 05:45 AM
The impression I get from the Jackson family is that they trained hard because they wanted it, at the end of the day the kids loved it and Michael Jackson loved dancing and performing, if Joe Jackson was at fault then it was trying to hard to make his kids achieve and helping them do what they loved doing, singing.

To blame it on Joe Jackson is dodging the issue of Michael Jackson himself.

GrandTheftAudio
28-06-2009, 09:42 AM
I feel a tiny bit sad because he was seen as such a legend to the world for so many years but like somebody else said, people die all the time, none of which impact my life and MJ was another one of those people.

Alupe
28-06-2009, 09:48 AM
Its a shame, no one should deserve to die

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