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Pyroka
14-07-2009, 09:06 PM
Spam is probably like the one forum full of rulebreakers and that, I mean like theres tonsss of them, all posting lovely words which wouldn't be acceptable to certain audiences like children. HabboxForum (I am guessing) has the same target audience as Habbo Hotel which is 11+. Would it be acceptable to put an age limit on the Spam forum so that users under a certain age cannot view it?

I would also say this would be a good idea as Spam is just one of those forums where kids will get ripped to shreds, its full of dirty jokes and the sense of humour is more adult than most of the forum. I know the forum moderators are there for a reason, to protect users and such but I do think to save time and effort, wouldn't it just be easier to put an age limit on Spam so that an older audience can use it? It's not my place to say what sort of age limit should be placed on it, however I think it'd be easier to have fun in the Spam Forum with the current users that are in it, since they're all pretty old (like probs over 14 tops). The stuff you learn between 11 & 14 is pretty big too, just my two cents on that, if you wanna disagree you can do.

But even then if it was a good idea, I'm not sure it can be implemented on the forum. I do think it'd solve alot more problems than create them, buttt I guess its up to youuu to think about it. Just putting the idea out there.

EDIT: Oh cripe I forgot to put a poll up, if a moderator could do that for me that'd be great, thanks <3

Hecktix
14-07-2009, 09:13 PM
It's not just spam where the sense of humour etc occurs, teens forums also happen to draw in this sort of banter.

Yes spam does contain a lot of rulebreaking but it's nothing that doesn't get dealt with pretty quickly by forum moderators.

I think it would be unfair to restrict younger members from spam, its their choice whether to read threads or post in them - we aren't parents.

In terms of adult content this is also included in the teens forum, as a moderator I moderate using the Sex Talk Regulations that were drawn up (by myself) for the Teen/Relationship/Health forums and I include these rules when moderating sexual content in spam.

At the end of the day people should just stick to the rules & I believe your answer to the problem would be the forum allowing people to break the rules we stand by.

Sammeth.
14-07-2009, 09:15 PM
An age limit would be harder to enforce than just allowing moderators to deal with issues in the forum. Although it may be a bit more relaxed in the forum, moderators don't let it get out of control or go too far. Rules still apply as they do forumwide and the rules are there to protect people of all ages.

You'll simply get people lying about their age to get around it as we can't ask for ID or proof of their age - and if we can, again, it would be more time consuming and more problematic than just allowing those of all ages to view it.

Plank
14-07-2009, 09:17 PM
No, it would be impossible to enforce.

Pyroka
14-07-2009, 09:18 PM
What about a minimum time of being registered before you can view the Spam forum? e.g. 6 months, not too long but not too short, so that the user can fully appreciate the forum and it'll keep out determined trolls as well who just post 15 times and then troll the forum.

That might work.

lick
14-07-2009, 09:21 PM
Thats still stupid, what if someone gets banned and they wanna make a new account? they have to wait 6 months just to post in spam :S

Niall!
14-07-2009, 09:23 PM
What about a minimum time of being registered before you can view the Spam forum? e.g. 6 months, not too long but not too short, so that the user can fully appreciate the forum and it'll keep out determined trolls as well who just post 15 times and then troll the forum.

That might work.

Or you could just come out and say that you won't it to be a private golf club. Why would being on the forum 6 months change anything?

Yonder
14-07-2009, 09:24 PM
Its not impossible to restrict it to an age limit but people could just change or sign up with different ages to access the restricted forums. I dont see the point we have been okay up to now, maybe just a simple red warning like other forums do have in their descriptions would be sufficient?

jackass
14-07-2009, 09:25 PM
Nah, should just stay how it is.

And what is going on with your rep?!

Pyroka
14-07-2009, 09:26 PM
Thats still stupid, what if someone gets banned and they wanna make a new account? they have to wait 6 months just to post in spam :S

Well I'm guessing they wouldn't be bothered unless they got banned whilst posting in Spam like a pillick. >.>


Or you could just come out and say that you won't it to be a private golf club. Why would being on the forum 6 months change anything?

But golf sucks.


Nah, should just stay how it is.

And what is going on with your rep?!

nvrspk.

buttons
14-07-2009, 09:26 PM
There's no need to talk about sexual stuff anyway, if it's truly needed it can be put into teen life. I'm sure we could post on here without feeling the need to get all sexually hyped up and have to swear and insult all the time because like you say it's a habbo forum so what would you benefit from acting in such a way?Look at your sig for instance, if these things are going to be quoted (and edited in your case ;)) then what's the point in enforcing this when it's hardly "protecting" younger audiences. Spam isn't even there for insulting each other and being sexually explicit, it's there to discuss things which don't fit into any other categories and I'm not even being hypocritical I know that's what I use it for but I'm just saying that it shouldn't be restricted to other members because some people want to act like sex obsessed little babies. Just from looking at it's current state the 13/14 year old members probably act more mature than the 18+ ones anyway :)

xxMATTGxx
14-07-2009, 09:27 PM
It's not impossible but I actually believe the spam forum is fine at its current state. Yes it has its moments from time to time and that's why we have the Moderators to deal with the situations that occur.

lick
14-07-2009, 09:28 PM
Its the mods/FM who are always going on about sex anyways :P

Pyroka
14-07-2009, 09:29 PM
There's no need to talk about sexual stuff anyway, if it's truly needed it can be put into teen life. I'm sure we could post on here without feeling the need to get all sexually hyped up and have to swear and insult all the time because like you say it's a habbo forum so what would you benefit from acting in such a way?Look at your sig for instance, if these things are going to be quoted (and edited in your case ;)) then what's the point in enforcing this when it's hardly "protecting" younger audiences. Spam isn't even there for insulting each other and being sexually explicit, it's there to discuss things which don't fit into any other categories and I'm not even being hypocritical I know that's what I use it for but I'm just saying that it shouldn't be restricted to other members because some people want to act like sex obsessed little babies. Just from looking at it's current state the 13/14 year old members probably act more mature than the 18+ ones anyway :)

Some of your points were valid, some of them were just immature digs. But yeah I get your point, and thats why I'm sort of sceptic now on the whole idea of a age rating on Spam in the first place, thus why I suggested maybe put it to a certain amount of time you have to be registered before you can post in Spam.

I guess that'd seem more fair, for the sake that determined trolls wouldn't get in and just cause the same old problem they caused on (banned) accounts they once used.


It's not impossible but I actually believe the spam forum is fine at its current state. Yes it has its moments from time to time and that's why we have the Moderators to deal with the situations that occur.

Fair enough, I was just putting the idea out there. I thought it'd be good but it's not my decision to make.

So waiting for being hated for coming up with a suggestion lol.

Plank
14-07-2009, 09:33 PM
Its not impossible


It's not impossible
I can't see how it would be possible to enforce, without people lying, over the internet? There is no way you can prove how old you are unless you physically met the person and they had solid proof of ID, like when you sign up for a bank or something.

Pyroka
14-07-2009, 09:34 PM
I can't see how it would be possible to enforce, without people lying, over the internet? There is no way you can prove how old you are unless you physically met the person and they had solid proof of ID, like when you sign up for a bank or something.

They said its not impossible but people would probs change details anyway. :P

If a MOD could close the thread that'd be great, I can just see this'll head into a ditch of bickering to get peoples post counts up. xD

buttons
14-07-2009, 09:36 PM
Some of your points were valid, some of them were just immature digs. But yeah I get your point, and thats why I'm sort of sceptic now on the whole idea of a age rating on Spam in the first place, thus why I suggested maybe put it to a certain amount of time you have to be registered before you can post in Spam.

I guess that'd seem more fair, for the sake that determined trolls wouldn't get in and just cause the same old problem they caused on (banned) accounts they once used.



Fair enough, I was just putting the idea out there. I thought it'd be good but it's not my decision to make.

So waiting for being hated for coming up with a suggestion lol.
What would you say on a 16+ or 18+ section instead of restricting spam? I know they did it on habmate but I can't remember how exactly it went, like the system you had to do before getting it, you'd have to ask Catzsy. I don't think management would ever go for it though because you can't really tell if someones telling the truth about their age or not. I think we should be allowed gender forums at least :eusa_ange

Plank
14-07-2009, 09:38 PM
They said its not impossible but people would probs change details anyway. :P

If a MOD could close the thread that'd be great, I can just see this'll head into a ditch of bickering to get peoples post counts up. xD
Ok, it's possible to set an age restriction, but it's still impossible for someone to prove their age over internet, and therefore impossible to enforce unless they went to the extremes of visiting every person that wants to use the spam forum.

GommeInc
14-07-2009, 09:49 PM
Simple answer... No. The spam forum is harmless, I don't get your point that it should be 11+? The forum is, effectively a teen forum (although Habbo fail at life and don't realise that teens start in their teens i.e. thirteen) and anything mentioned in the spam forum is hardly graphic material. Restricting any part of the forum, which has been suggested before, would be impossible to enforce and a waste of moderators time.

Pyroka
14-07-2009, 09:53 PM
So blunt Gomme... sooooo bluuuunt ;) LOL

xxMATTGxx
14-07-2009, 09:58 PM
Its the mods/FM who are always going on about sex anyways :P

Only the staff forum now :(. If you want me to close the thread, then please say by a reply or a PM. :)

Pyroka
14-07-2009, 09:59 PM
I did say close it, meanie. :( If you could do that'd be ace, thanks. :D

xxMATTGxx
14-07-2009, 10:00 PM
I did say close it, meanie. :( If you could do that'd be ace, thanks. :D

Closed.

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