Gerrard could be prosecuted after hard evidence.

[efq]

England footballer Steven Gerrard "totally lost it" and hit a man "with the style and speed of a professional boxer" during a bar brawl over music, a court has heard.


http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Jul/Week3/15341715.jpg Steven Gerrard denies the charge


The Liverpool captain allegedly launched the assault on businessman Marcus McGee after the victim refused to hand over control of a CD player.
The 29-year-old star was with friends at the Lounge Inn, in Southport, Merseyside, in the early hours of December 29 when his party clashed with McGee, a member of another group.
Gerrard is on trial accused of affray after the clash left one man needing hospital treatment.
David Turner QC, prosecuting, told Liverpool Crown Court that Gerrard asked McGee for a card controlling the CD player, saying: "Here y'are lad. Give me that lad."


Mr Turner said: "Mr McGee took offence at his attitude and the expression "lad" and he refused.
"Not many people on Merseyside, or indeed anywhere else, would refuse a request from Steven Gerrard but Mr McGee did.
"There can be no doubt that this refusal astounded Steven Gerrard.
"He walked away back to his party but CCTV shows how much his mood had changed.
"He was no longer the centre of that high spirited party.
"He was clearly walking around pondering, musing over what had happened - about the man who said 'no' to Steven Gerrard."
After about six minutes Gerrard returned to the victim who was sitting alone at the bar and allegedly confronted him with the words: "Who the **** do you think you are?"
Mr McGee, who was not a DJ but was in charge of music for the night, stood up to Gerrard, Mr Turner said.
The pair were head to head, he said, "in the sort of hostile confrontation that is often seen between professional footballers".

6 people have already pleaded guilty to the attack leaving Gerrard to fight it alone.

ooh CCTV doesnt lie Mr Gerrard

Edited by invincible (Forum Moderator): I have fully filtered the swearword in the article, posting the first letter & the rest asterisks is classed as avoiding the filter, however this was just a c&p not your fault.

[e5]

so whats he done?
just confronted him and sworn? :S lol

[Shoovers]

so whats he done?
just confronted him and sworn? :S lol

Supposed to have thrown some punches but only hit him once. Shud just give him 20k and get it over with

[efq]

The judge said, "Gerrard delivered a couple of well aimed uppercuts and punches that of a professional boxer and speeds of a professional boxer"

[Shoovers]

The judge said, "Gerrard delivered a couple of well aimed uppercuts and punches that of a professional boxer and speeds of a professional boxer"

Amir Khan watch out.

He only supposedly hit him once though

[Scouse]

The judge said, "Gerrard delivered a couple of well aimed uppercuts and punches that of a professional boxer and speeds of a professional boxer"

if thats the case wouldnt he be charged with ABH and not affray?

[Shoovers]

An why would the DJ fella get offended at being called 'lad' ?

[Tintinnabulate]

Some idiot footballers think that they can get whatever they want whenever they want just because they are famous.

Shove them in the jail for a couple of weeks and they will learn their lesson.

[Wootzeh]

The judge said, "Gerrard delivered a couple of well aimed uppercuts and punches that of a professional boxer and speeds of a professional boxer"
That wasn't the judge it was the lawyer for the prosecution I think anyway.

[Geraint]

I've seen a video and it shows Gerrard hitting the guy. Might not be Gerrard though. He shouldn't be treated any differently for being a footballer.

[Geraint]

What difference does releasing the video make?

[Wootzeh]

link to video please

[Scouse]

link to video please

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Steven-Gerrard-Bar-Brawl-Trial-CCTV-Released-Of-Liverpool-And-England-Footballer/Article/200907315342805

[Wootzeh]

no gerrards friend elbowed the dude

gerrard obviously hit him or his friends wouldn't have held him back

[Browney]

he wont get long. he'll get an out of court settlement or a weekend community service.

[Excellent2]

Looks like Stevie beat the crap out of him after the dude got elbowed. Thugs. Shove him in jail for 6 months and stop his pay.

[LuketheDuke]

Stevie's mate should get a hefty fine for that elbow but as for him just a small fine. I see much worse go on at nightclubs without anyone getting arrested and that, only high profile because Gerrard's famous and the bloke who got hit is gonna milk this as much as possible.

[Excellent2]

That could be anyone.

This thread needs to be cleaned up.It clearly is him. It even looks like him.

[efq]

Gerrard admits hitting the person but still denies charges :S Case still continues.

[Suspective]

He'll just get a fine, I can't imagine him getting a prision sentence.

[Rock]

That article is far too biased against Gerrard in my opinion

[TotalShambles]

Should be treated how anyone else would be treated?

Really all that would happen really is police would have a few words.. Would not get done for AGH as he really did no damage to the other person.

[Rock]

This was the worst thing he could have done after the previous attack.

[Jack.Lfc]

Should be treated how anyone else would be treated?

Really all that would happen really is police would have a few words.. Would not get done for AGH as he really did no damage to the other person.

Agreed.

If it was anyone else, it wouldnt have even got to court.

These things happen multiple times every night.

There tryna make a example of him.

[Excellent2]

Agreed.

If it was anyone else, it wouldnt have even got to court.

These things happen multiple times every night.

There tryna make a example of him.Do you not know anything about the law? There is solid evidence that Gerrard beat the crap out of that guy after he got elbowed. Thats GBH right there. If there is evidence of a crime and the victim chooses to press charges, the offender in question would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and rightly so. Just because Stevie G happens to play for Liverpool doesn't mean a thing. I hope he goes down for a month or so. These footballers need to learn they are nothing special.

I bet the guy has been offered a fat sum of money to not press charges though.

[Jack.Lfc]

Little ****** things like that dont usually go to court, ive seen worse.

So why was the assault charge dropped mr.

[StefanWolves]

TBH I've seen on Road Wars people get away with this - the cops see a drug deal take place, the guys with the drugs walk off, police follow them, police go to grab them, and then the guys with drugs swallow it, in front of their face and the camera, but once it is down his throat the police can't prove anything, they can't prove that the guy had drugs, even though they saw him swallow it/filmed on camera, that's how gay this countries laws are, people murder people and only serve 7 years in prison, because the police/juries waste their time on crap like this.

[Geraint]

His cousin seem's like an 'ard **** too. Wouldn't like to mess with him.

[Shoovers]

Like someone else said, this probably happens in nightclubs all the time but because he's famous its been blown out of proportion by the media.

And if Joey Barton has got away with everything he's done then i think Gerrard will probably get a fine and/or community service

[CJW93]

Hopefully he gets punished for it. If he wasnt a footballer the police would be all over him

[efq]

Wouldn't suprise me if Gerrard has started offering the right people money.

[Remote]

I heard he smashed a glass bottle over his head also.

[Jack.Lfc]

Hopefully he gets punished for it. If he wasnt a footballer the police would be all over him

Nonsense. If he wasnt a footballer it wouldnt have gone to court.

People just want him in trouble because of who he is.

[StefanWolves]

Nonsense. If he wasnt a footballer it wouldnt have gone to court.

People just want him in trouble because of who he is.

couldn't agree more, anyone who thinks otherwise are brainwashed by what the media say.

[Tintinnabulate]

Nonsense. If he wasnt a footballer it wouldnt have gone to court.

People just want him in trouble because of who he is.

Depends on the person who got assaulted because I have seen the stupidest things go to court.

[Browney]

It's all well and good blaming it on the fact hes famous and saying if he was a normal person it wouldn't go to court, but as Liverpool's emblem, and England's star player he should have more responsibilty. Kids look up to him. And now instead of nicking tyres, the scouse kids will be beating up manc DJs. And imagine how many United fans now snort because of their hero Rio doing it. Or do whatever United players do to girls at the christmas party... Anyway, point is, Gerrard needs to take more responsibility as a role model and shouldn't be going out and getting "7/10" drunk anyway. He's a professional athlete for god's sake.

[StefanWolves]

so being a pro athlete means you can't go out and get a tad drunk and have fun with your mates? they are human you know.

and i forgot all bout that rio ferdinand drugs thing, shame on him.

[Geraint]

so being a pro athlete means you can't go out and get a tad drunk and have fun with your mates? they are human you know.

and i forgot all bout that rio ferdinand drugs thing, shame on him.

he's a footballer and a role model. as both, he should know what to do and what not to do.

[Jack.Lfc]

It's all well and good blaming it on the fact hes famous and saying if he was a normal person it wouldn't go to court, but as Liverpool's emblem, and England's star player he should have more responsibilty. Kids look up to him. And now instead of nicking tyres, the scouse kids will be beating up manc DJs. And imagine how many United fans now snort because of their hero Rio doing it. Or do whatever United players do to girls at the christmas party... Anyway, point is, Gerrard needs to take more responsibility as a role model and shouldn't be going out and getting "7/10" drunk anyway. He's a professional athlete for god's sake.

I lol'd scouse kids beat you up anyway, well try too.

I agree, what he did was wrong.

What u said about him getting drunk, i disagree he should be alowed to drink like the rest of us.

[StefanWolves]

i know he should know his boundaries as he is a role model, but every ones human, everyone makes mistakes, and tbh Gerrard is one of the more well behaved footballers you will EVER meet, i mean look at A.Cole, cheating on Cheryl Cole? (like *** why would you do that) and look at R.Ferdinand? snorting drugs.

don't hold one petty little night club brawl against someone that is more or less one of the best role models that english football has. (besides Beckham, IMO.)

[Browney]

so being a pro athlete means you can't go out and get a tad drunk and have fun with your mates? they are human you know.

and i forgot all bout that rio ferdinand drugs thing, shame on him.


What u said about him getting drunk, i disagree he should be alowed to drink like the rest of us.

Thats what the summer break is for. :eusa_danc I mean, hes at his peak, I thought he'd want to try to prolong his best years.


i know he should know his boundaries as he is a role model, but every ones human, everyone makes mistakes, and tbh Gerrard is one of the more well behaved footballers you will EVER meet, i mean look at A.Cole, cheating on Cheryl Cole? (like *** why would you do that) and look at R.Ferdinand? snorting drugs.

don't hold one petty little night club brawl against someone that is more or less one of the best role models that english football has. (besides Beckham, IMO.)

eh eh? Giggs is like 35 or something, I dno and you never hear about him out drinking, getting silly drunk, snorting silly things or doing silly people. He's a real profesional and knows theres plenty of time for that when he retires. (:P) Same can be said about alot of footballers really. Even Terry, from an england persepctive.

[Andeeh]

NOT GUILTY OF AFFRAY kthxbi

[efq]

NOT GUILTY OF AFFRAY kthxbi
yeah cause hes a celeb and some day corruption will be sorted when police begin to act like men.

i'm going to go to a club, beat the **** out of someone and if i get prosecuted for it then i'll say how come gerrard didn't

[AlexOC]

Meh, i think he was guilty.

[Wootzeh]

yeah cause hes a celeb and some day corruption will be sorted when police begin to act like men.

i'm going to go to a club, beat the **** out of someone and if i get prosecuted for it then i'll say how come gerrard didn't
because he didn't "beat the **** out of someone"

[Shoovers]

yeah cause hes a celeb and some day corruption will be sorted when police begin to act like men.

i'm going to go to a club, beat the **** out of someone and if i get prosecuted for it then i'll say how come gerrard didn't

If someone beats the **** out of you with one punch, then there's something wrong.

It happens all the time, it's just because he's famous it was blown out of proportion.

[Shoovers]

Meh, i think he was guilty.

Man U fan ?

[Browney]

Man U fan ?

City actually.

eh, if he's not guilty, hes not guilty.

[Geraint]

He acted in self-defence because he thought the guy was going to hit him. Does that mean next time Gerrard does a bad tackle, he's going to get up and headbutt the guy incase the guy retaliates?

[Arron]

Thank god he's not been convicted!

I'm a Man Utd fan and I am glad he's kept his reputation clean because if he got prosecuted he might have been facing up to 2 years in jail?

No thanks we need him for the World Cup.

[Jack.Lfc]

Why did all the others plead guilty, i can only see 2 on the cctv. Gerrard and one other.

[Shoovers]

From the report in the Echo:
Liverpool players in Singapore during a training session heard the news immediately and, led by Jamie Carragher, linked arms and cheered, watched by several hundred fans. The fans then started singing the Liverpool captain's name.

[Jack.Lfc]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/07/25/liverpool-players-jump-for-joy-on-hearing-their-captain-steven-gerrard-is-free-115875-21545760/

[Zokoli]

Stevie's a spitting image of Joey Barton :S

[Feep]

a punch up over a song sheet, Lol. Stevie G's lost respect from me.

[Tintinnabulate]

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[StefanWolves]

So beating up a guy is now classed as having fun with your mates?
No one says don't go out and have fun in the non-violent way, but use your brains and behave.

It's obvious you have no social life and do not go out clubbing, because crap like this happens hundreds of times EVERY night, and nothing happens to them, they NEVER get sent down, it's just because he's famous and they're using him for publicity to show what will happen if any younger people do this sort of stuff (which always results in nothing happening, just a fine or community service), so shuv your morales where the sun don't shine. ;)


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[Jack.Lfc]

It was a manc, my respect for him has grew.

[StefanWolves]

LOL was it really a Manc? maybe that's why - "YOU MAY BE LEADIN THE PREM BUT WE WILL WIN DA LEAGUE!!!!!!" - BOOM upper cuts.

kthxbhaii