The stupid sexual nature rule

[Skajo]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=593061

That thread got closed for it, admittedly it should be closed anyway but not for that reason. However, this rule is in place but never applied - for instance:


http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=592999
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=592705
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=591016
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=587902

All threads of a sexual nature. Open and brimming with MATURE discussions. I think the rule should be abolished completely. Obviously if someone describes second by second their sexual encounters going into graphic detail, punish them and send them to Demented Hills Hospital but this rule is pathetic.

:)

[Immenseman]

I agree with you Adam. The threads that have remained open which are related to sex are discussed in a mature manner because anyone who was being immature would be ripped to shreds anyway, lol.

If someone started going into such detail then (super) moderators could just infraction them with the inappropriate post option rather than having a specific rule which doesn't really have to be there and is equivocal anyway.

[Alkaz]

The rule is meant to be used responsibly and people who dont use it properly do get punished for it and things go get removed.

Them threads you highlighted are being used maturely and its not as if sexual acts are being discussed. Them threads are just to get some information about the forum, Mentor is collecting information and making graphs from his findings and they all seem mature and to be following the rules.

[Skajo]

The rule is meant to be used responsibly and people who dont use it properly do get punished for it and things go get removed.

Them threads you highlighted are being used maturely and its not as if sexual acts are being discussed. Them threads are just to get some information about the forum, Mentor is collecting information and making graphs from his findings and they all seem mature and to be following the rules.
Wrong. There's a rule saying don't discuss sexual nature which these threads do.

See my point?

[GommeInc]

I agree with you Adam. The threads that have remained open which are related to sex are discussed in a mature manner because anyone who was being immature would be ripped to shreds anyway, lol.

If someone started going into such detail then (super) moderators could just infraction them with the inappropriate post option rather than having a specific rule which doesn't really have to be there and is equivocal anyway.
Agreed - places with too many rules which could mean the same thing are frustrating.

*cough*Posting in a foreign language IS pointless*cough*Pointless posting rule

The spam forum is a walking talking sex talk thriving forum anyway, and most discussions are just a tad below the belt. But that thread you pointed out IS pointless, so technically the logic behind it is, that thread should have a mention about sex AND pointless posting :/

[The Professor]

The spirit of rule seems to be applied consistently, if not the letter of the rule. The thread you linked to that was closed was clearly asking for details and specifics about the act which are blatantly going to get graphic, whereas the other threads you linked to are talking about the act itself rather than the intricate details.

I don't know if I'm making sense to anyone but myself but hey :P

[today]

that user should just be banned imo anyway lol.

[Skajo]

I know what they'll come back with - "if we don't have this rule, people will start going into detail etc". But that's like saying we need a seperate rule for things like:


Do not post your plans of genecide
Do not plan a terrorist action
etc

Silly rule.

Don't swear, don't abuse and don't be negative.

Only rules needed :D

[GommeInc]

Makes sense to me, but the first thread was closed mainly due to it being pointless really - like asking "Has anyone eaten a sasuage, what's it like?" Besides, he/she would of gotten ripped apart anyway, immature sex conversations are gnarly :P

[buttons]

Wrong. There's a rule saying don't discuss sexual nature which these threads do.

See my point?
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=587705
Mentor's aren't graphic at all, he asked questions which would be anonymous and didn't require a reply so anyone breaking the "do not discuss in detail blahblah" it's their own fault and not the thread starter. The first thread was asking to describe in details, breaking the rules and therefore closed rightfully.

[Immenseman]

Makes sense to me, but the first thread was closed mainly due to it being pointless really - like asking "Has anyone eaten a sasuage, what's it like?" Besides, he/she would of gotten ripped apart anyway, immature sex conversations are gnarly :P
copying my point, -rep :D.

it's an unnecessary rule. if anyone is going to get down and dirty, like ryan often does there are other rules which cover the rule break. it's way too specific.

[Hecktix]

The "sexual nature" rule doesn't exist on it's own anymore.
There are specific rules regarding sex and they can be found here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=587705)

It is not allowed to discuss sexual acts :), the other threads could be looked upon as in an advisory capacity.

Edit, for lazy people:

Sexual Content which is ALLOWED:


Sexual Health issues & advice providing descriptions are not graphic and the content is not obscene & may disturb other users.
Contraceptive issues & advice
Age concerns/advice regarding entering sexual relationships
Sexuality issues/advice.

Sexual Content which is NOT ALLOWED



Describing or discussing sexual acts
Any images (including in situations listed in the "allowed" section.)
Graphic descriptions of sexual organs
Any sexual content that may offend and/or disturb other users.
Discussing non-health issues regarding sexual organs.
Telling of 'Sex stories'.

[Skajo]

The "sexual nature" rule doesn't exist on it's own anymore.
There are specific rules regarding sex and they can be found here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=587705)

It is not allowed to discuss sexual acts :), the other threads could be looked upon as in an advisory capacity.

Edit, for lazy people:
Having sex is a sexual act - Mentor's thread asks if people have had sex. That's discussing the sexual act of sex.

Confussing.

[Hecktix]

Having sex is a sexual act - Mentor's thread asks if people have had sex. That's discussing the sexual act of sex.

Confussing.

Mentors threads have been extremely borderline, as a moderator of the section i've been in contact with Mentor and he understands these are borderline. I've discussed these polls in detail with forum management and they do all hold some kind of advisory capacity and these threads are closelymoderated to avoid people saying just a little too much.

A thread discussing how sex feels is completely over the line.

[Skajo]

So what about the idiots in the spam forum forever pleasuring themselves over girls, in particular Jennifer, using innuendo 24/7?

[buttons]

ryt k I get Adam, shouldn't the rule be "do not describe sexual acts" instead of discussing? There is a difference between the two. Like it's been said Mentor's doesn't require an indepth answer which goes into detail and it's usually just a poll so yes we know he's not breaking the rules so far but if the rule says no discussing sexual acts which he is doing then it's a bit of a contradiction whereas if you changed it to "do not describe" then the rule would be valid and he wouldn't be breaking the rule:S



oi adam :@ I think the rule should be imported into spam wayyy more than it already is because it's well getting out of hand -glare at gomme & sammeth-

[Soy]

Stupid rule

stupid stupid

Supposed to be a teen forum, one of the main thing teens talk about is sexual intercourse

[Immenseman]

oi adam :@ I think the rule should be imported into spam wayyy more than it already is because it's well getting out of hand -glare at gomme & sammeth-
gay stuff is allowed. due to the current forum management.

[Hecktix]

ryt k I get Adam, shouldn't the rule be "do not describe sexual acts" instead of discussing? There is a difference between the two. Like it's been said Mentor's doesn't require an indepth answer which goes into detail and it's usually just a poll so yes we know he's not breaking the rules so far but if the rule says no discussing sexual acts which he is doing then it's a bit of a contradiction whereas if you changed it to "do not describe" then the rule would be valid and he wouldn't be breaking the rule:S


I see your point, however I don't think discussing sex in itself should be allowed, mentor is discussing sexual relationships.


Stupid rule

stupid stupid

Supposed to be a teen forum, one of the main thing teens talk about is sexual intercourse

It's supposed to be a Habbo Related forum actually.

@ the person who said people use innuendo to perv over jen, I haven't seen any directly myself but if jen/someone else reports it it would be dealt with appropriately.

[Soy]

No, I was refering to those polls that were in the Teen forum

There should be some exceptions made there

[Immenseman]

It's supposed to be a Habbo Related forum actually.

you're right! habbo's target audience isn't teens :rolleyes:

[xxMATTGxx]

The rule:


A8. It is not allowed to talk about adult subjects like sex – Graphically describing sexual acts or acts of violence is not allowed.

Meaning, if you are actually describing sexual acts then that is not acceptable. But simple talk or discussion like the threads you have posted are acceptable. We do have borderlines and exceptions for these sort of situations. Unless I'm truly missing something here?



gay stuff is allowed. due to the current forum management.

Funny...

[Hecktix]

you're right! habbo's target audience isn't teens :rolleyes:

11-15.
& sex talk is forbidden on the hotel so...

[Jordy]

I personally don't see a problem with the rule or how it's put into practise. Discussing sex is allowed, you can go on about how many partners you've had, when you last did it etc but you just can't go into how it felt, what exactly happened and descriptions of how it actually went (Graphic details).

I think it'd be inappropriate for people to describe in detail the events of having sex, if you want to do that then go on another forum?

[lick]

You should stop catering for 11-14 year olds when in fact no one that age uses the forum.

The age range is 15-18 and im sure they dont have problems reading / talking about that stuff

[Mentor]

Ha, 3 of the threads are mine :P can see nvr/invincible's point.

Duno the way i've taken the rule is that you can speak about sex so long as you dont go in to detail about the act itself, so while mine were more based around asking whether people have sex, how often things like that, the thread that was closed was asking more about the act itselfs, asking people to describe it (or at least how it feels)

The rule's boundrys are a little bit odd in this sense, so i can see why this threads made, The fact the forums main age group has got signicantly older speaks to this (or at least the age group likely to view the non-habbo forums.) 16 is the legal age for sex, so after that point talking about sexual issues cant really be made out to be a big deal.

http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p3&chd=t:26,68&chs=500x160&chl=Aged%20below%2016|aged%2016%20or%20above
(source: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=591834 )
As the poll shows, the over 16's are in a big majorty now outside habbo based forums. So my suggestion would be to maybe take relationships or one of its subforums, make it so posts/last post etc cannot be seen from outside the forum (doesnt show last post details, just private) Add a big warning about the content then maybe in this forum relax the boundrys a bit. This all depends on whether or not there are any mods around old and mature enough to look after such a forum and with enough sense to make good judgement calls on whether things are appropite or not.

This is just one idea, maybe theirs a better one :)

[Sammeth.]

oi adam :@ I think the rule should be imported into spam wayyy more than it already is because it's well getting out of hand -glare at gomme & sammeth-

omg the context is a bit different though!!! dont be jealous :S

[lick]

Ha, 3 of the threads are mine :P can see nvr/invincible's point.

Duno the way i've taken the rule is that you can speak about sex so long as you dont go in to detail about the act itself, so while mine were more based around asking whether people have sex, how often things like that, the thread that was closed was asking more about the act itselfs, asking people to describe it (or at least how it feels)

The rule's boundrys are a little bit odd in this sense, so i can see why this threads made, The fact the forums main age group has got signicantly older speaks to this (or at least the age group likely to view the non-habbo forums.) 16 is the legal age for sex, so after that point talking about sexual issues cant really be made out to be a big deal.

http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p3&chd=t:26,68&chs=500x160&chl=Aged%20below%2016|aged%2016%20or%20above
(source: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=591834 )
As the poll shows, the over 16's are in a big majorty now outside habbo based forums. So my suggestion would be to maybe take relationships or one of its subforums, make it so posts/last post etc cannot be seen from outside the forum (doesnt show last post details, just private) Add a big warning about the content then maybe in this forum relax the boundrys a bit. This all depends on whether or not there are any mods around old and mature enough to look after such a forum and with enough sense to make good judgement calls on whether things are appropite or not.

This is just one idea, maybe theirs a better one :)


Yeah maybe four years ago when the forum started the age was 12-15 but its four years later and they still think that when it clearly is not true.

[Hecktix]

I personally don't see a problem with the rule or how it's put into practise. Discussing sex is allowed, you can go on about how many partners you've had, when you last did it etc but you just can't go into how it felt, what exactly happened and descriptions of how it actually went (Graphic details).

I think it'd be inappropriate for people to describe in detail the events of having sex, if you want to do that then go on another forum?

Agreed :)

The rules are slack on it as it is tbh, just don't push it too far?

[StefanWolves]

You should stop catering for 11-14 year olds when in fact no one that age uses the forum.

The age range is 15-18 and im sure they dont have problems reading / talking about that stuff

This person talks some sense, cater for 15+ year olds and not spoilt little 11 year olds.

[Mentor]

The rules are slack on it as it is tbh, just don't push it too far?
Thats why she said!


... i'll show my self out :(

But fair comment, i can defiantly see where Jordy's coming from on this one, if there was an area where the censorship here is a bit ott id say thats with the word filter, some really random words are banned o.o

[today]

11-15.
& sex talk is forbidden on the hotel so...
14-18 more like it..

[StefanWolves]

anyway, it isn't like 14 year olds haven't heard about all the sex talk at school ect, so it really wouldn't make a difference.

[Skajo]

If anything it's less graphic than what I got shown at school in year 6 however old I was then.

You'd have to go pretty far to beat that, actually, lol.

[Jordy]

I personally would disagree to the forum trying to cater better for 16+, I think the forum should continue to cater to Habbo members. If HxF was to turn into a "Teenager" forum or "Young Adult" forum it'll just die, teen forums do not stand any chance by themselves, people try create them but they always fail because they lack any direction.

The large majority of people on this forum used Habbo and that's why they used HabboxForum in the first place, if you cut the ties with Habbo and then you get no new members signing up, you lose people out the Habbo, Trading, Graphics and Web sections and they'll be no people to 'replace' the current members once they leave, eventually resulting in the forum dying.

I have kind of jumped to conclusions however my point is the forum should not become more suited to the 16+ age group by introducing certain forums for them, although in the short term it seems a good idea, I think in the future it'd be a bad idea.

[GommeInc]

gay stuff is allowed. due to the current forum management.
The whole lot of 'em, nancies :@

And there's no harm in being a wee bit dutty with other people, you're just jealous to be honest :/ (not you Jake, :love3: )

Also, Habbo is for teens, but Habbo fail at life in so many ways that they've forgotten that "teens" are between thirteen and nineteen. Between those ages is when puberty is, and the sex talk comes out. The forum is fine as it is.

[Skajo]

The rule needs re-writing is the main point I tried to create in this thread. Mentor's threads, as the rules stand, are against them.

[GommeInc]

The rule needs re-writing is the main point I tried to create in this thread. Mentor's threads, as the rules stand, are against them.
Ahh I see your point now (well, MattGarner gave it away when he posted the rule).

8. It is not allowed to talk about adult subjects like sex – Graphically describing sexual acts or acts of violence is not allowed.

The rule is soo badly written that it sort makes no sense and is unbelievable (literally). The bit in red, the main bit (thus coloured red, or I hope that's why they've done that) actually says talking about sexual intercourse in general is not allowed. Period, full stop yadda yadda. It literally comes across as, you can't make comments or references about sex, including what Mentor has said, sexual relationships (sex with someone else, duh, sex sex sex) - due to the vagueness of the rule.

The bit in fine writing though, completely invalidates the bold bit and confuses it, is it wrong to talk about sex especially graphic details, or only graphic details. What's going on here?

[Hecktix]

Ahh I see your point now (well, MattGarner gave it away when he posted the rule).

8. It is not allowed to talk about adult subjects like sex – Graphically describing sexual acts or acts of violence is not allowed.

The rule is soo badly written that it sort makes no sense and is unbelievable (literally). The bit in red, the main bit (thus coloured red, or I hope that's why they've done that) actually says talking about sexual intercourse in general is not allowed. Period, full stop yadda yadda. It literally comes across as, you can't make comments or references about sex, including what Mentor has said, sexual relationships (sex with someone else, duh, sex sex sex) - due to the vagueness of the rule.

The bit in fine writing though, completely invalidates the bold bit and confuses it, is it wrong to talk about sex especially graphic details, or only graphic details. What's going on here?

If you read the forum specific rules it elaborates a lot...
We only tolerate it in the relationships, teen & health forums, we wouldnt allow sexual talk in spam for instance :)

[Soy]

There should be a part of the teen forum only viewable to users who are 13 and above, I've seen a vbulletin mod like that somewhere

And how is saying 'She smoked my pipe' graphic, It could mean an array of things

got infracted for it

[Hecktix]

There should be a part of the teen forum only viewable to users who are 13 and above, I've seen a vbulletin mod like that somewhere

This has been discussed many times before, people would just lie about their age.

[GommeInc]

If you read the forum specific rules it elaborates a lot...
We only tolerate it in the relationships, teen & health forums, we wouldnt allow sexual talk in spam for instance :)
No you don't? It's not in the rules :/ So... Yeah, it's fine to talk about sex anywhere, anytime with anyone anyhow :/ And Habbo is for teens and Habbox is for teens, tis perfectly fine. Don't moan that Habbo don't allow sex talk, because they flail at many things and common sense is just one of them.

[Hecktix]

No you don't? It's not in the rules :/ So... Yeah, it's fine to talk about sex anywhere, anytime with anyone anyhow :/ And Habbo is for teens and Habbox is for teens, tis perfectly fine. Don't moan that Habbo don't allow sex talk, because they flail at many things and common sense is just one of them.

If you read the forum specific rules in the teens forums, you will see we do allow talk about sex...

[Nixt]

The spirit of rule seems to be applied consistently, if not the letter of the rule. The thread you linked to that was closed was clearly asking for details and specifics about the act which are blatantly going to get graphic, whereas the other threads you linked to are talking about the act itself rather than the intricate details.

I don't know if I'm making sense to anyone but myself but hey :P

Alex has most effectively explained what I was going to say. The rule is not going to be abolished. It is still against the rules to discussing things of a sexual nature and it is going to stay that way. Therefore you have two choices:
1) We get really harsh and don't even allow you to use the word "sex" so there are no grey areas;
2) We keep it as it is.

As it stands now, to talk about sex and sexual behaviour explicitly, or otherwise encourage or insinuate it, you will be punished. This is why the thread I closed was locked - it was encouraging a sexually explicit conversation. Mentor's threads, on the other hand, are not at all explicit although they are a little more on the mature side. However, seeing as they do not 'cross the line' we have decided to exercise some leniency which I am sure you will agree is preferable to absolute dictatorship.

[Soy]

never mind

power obsessed mods

[Hecktix]

never mind

power obsessed mods


Your post was not talking about sex, it was describing a sexual act which is forbidden on the forum. If you have a problem with an infraction, you know where it can be reported.

[xxMATTGxx]

Alex has most effectively explained what I was going to say. The rule is not going to be abolished. It is still against the rules to discussing things of a sexual nature and it is going to stay that way. Therefore you have two choices:
1) We get really harsh and don't even allow you to use the word "sex" so there are no grey areas;
2) We keep it as it is.

As it stands now, to talk about sex and sexual behaviour explicitly, or otherwise encourage or insinuate it, you will be punished. This is why the thread I closed was locked - it was encouraging a sexually explicit conversation. Mentor's threads, on the other hand, are not at all explicit although they are a little more on the mature side. However, seeing as they do not 'cross the line' we have decided to exercise some leniency which I am sure you will agree is preferable to absolute dictatorship.

Agreed. :)

[GommeInc]

Then why does the rule section of the page not have any mention of forum specific rules, other than at the bottom which is not going to get any sort of view? Surely a small note about them should mention this? Also, what is wrong with talking about sex in spam? It's a spam forum for a reason, and allowing sex in a specific teen forum (which has always kinda been pointless anyway) is just showing double standards, when the forum is available for everyone.

As I stated earlier, how the forum runs now is fine - there's been more freedom, which died out ages ago and only recently got revived.

[Mentor]

The rule needs re-writing is the main point I tried to create in this thread. Mentor's threads, as the rules stand, are against them.
My threads sit at the boundry of the rules, but are still keeping there toes within them. Check out the specific rules regarding those fourms and you'll see what i mean :)

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=587705

Jordy: Whos talking about cutting ties? You dont have to dump one chunk of membership to cater for another, the much better option would be cater for both. Habbox so far has done quite well with this a number of significantly sized non habbo communities exist on the board: one of the largest being the webdesigns who have a number of forums just for themselves. The runescape in which many dont have ties to habbo :)
In addition to this the most important group for any forum, the core membership, those members whom are very active, most engaged with the forum and least likely to leave are not people who should be forgotten. Habbox has been around long enough that the age group of the core members is generally going up and this aint gonna stop.

Yes catering for the parts that pull more members in is important, but keeping the members who are already here is even more so. People are far less likely to join a dead forum than an active one after all :)

Catering for all groups is important if you want all groups on the forum. Most people want an active and large community so catering for all seems to be a pretty good policy :p

[Nixt]

Then why does the rule section of the page not have any mention of forum specific rules, other than at the bottom which is not going to get any sort of view? Surely a small note about them should mention this? Also, what is wrong with talking about sex in spam? It's a spam forum for a reason, and allowing sex in a specific teen forum (which has always kinda been pointless anyway) is just showing double standards, when the forum is available for everyone.

I am confused about that part of your post - are you referring to the FAQ?

[GommeInc]

I am confused about that part of your post - are you referring to the FAQ?
Yes my love ;)

[Nixt]

Yes my love ;)

Easy enough to add, I'll see it gets done in tomorrow's Sunday updates baby xoxo

[GommeInc]

Good girl, I never knew they were down there until I gently scrolled ;) Perhaps both could be integrated at some point without causing too much mess (I has a mental image of how it looks :O!)
xoxox

[Sammeth.]

If you read the forum specific rules it elaborates a lot...
We only tolerate it in the relationships, teen & health forums, we wouldnt allow sexual talk in spam for instance :)

tbf there's a lot of naughtiness there and not much is done about it (thats not a complaint, I'm glad nothings done about it as its harmless, just an observation)

[today]

I personally would disagree to the forum trying to cater better for 16+, I think the forum should continue to cater to Habbo members. If HxF was to turn into a "Teenager" forum or "Young Adult" forum it'll just die, teen forums do not stand any chance by themselves, people try create them but they always fail because they lack any direction.

The large majority of people on this forum used Habbo and that's why they used HabboxForum in the first place, if you cut the ties with Habbo and then you get no new members signing up, you lose people out the Habbo, Trading, Graphics and Web sections and they'll be no people to 'replace' the current members once they leave, eventually resulting in the forum dying.

I have kind of jumped to conclusions however my point is the forum should not become more suited to the 16+ age group by introducing certain forums for them, although in the short term it seems a good idea, I think in the future it'd be a bad idea.


CAN I POINT EVERYONE WHO THINKS HABBOXFORUM MAIN TARGET AGE GROUP IS 11 - 14 PLEASE ******* READ THIS AND GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD, HABBOXFORUM IS NOT ******* FULL OF PRE-TEENS ANYMORE. JESUS. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=591834)


SIDE NOTE: Thanks Mentor for that poll, comes in handy <3
(http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=591834)

[xxMATTGxx]

CAN I POINT EVERYONE WHO THINKS HABBOXFORUM MAIN TARGET AGE GROUP IS 11 - 14 PLEASE ******* READ THIS AND GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD, HABBOXFORUM IS NOT ******* FULL OF PRE-TEENS ANYMORE. JESUS. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=591834)


SIDE NOTE: Thanks Mentor for that poll, comes in handy <3
(http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=591834)


Only 95 people have voted. There is much more people who use the forum on a daily basis. ;)

[today]

Only 95 people have voted. There is much more people who use the forum on a daily basis. ;)
Indeed, and of course but already the point i'm proving is, the main age group is 16-18, just by 'x' users voting you can see that, where as if it was 11-15 that would over power other age ranges, but it doesnt. Hence its 16+ mainly.

[lick]

CAN I POINT EVERYONE WHO THINKS HABBOXFORUM MAIN TARGET AGE GROUP IS 11 - 14 PLEASE ******* READ THIS AND GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD, HABBOXFORUM IS NOT ******* FULL OF PRE-TEENS ANYMORE. JESUS. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=591834)


SIDE NOTE: Thanks Mentor for that poll, comes in handy <3
(http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=591834)


LOOOOOL

and yeah only 10 users under 16 :S

[Hecktix]

tbf there's a lot of naughtiness there and not much is done about it (thats not a complaint, I'm glad nothings done about it as its harmless, just an observation)

the naughtiness in spam is often hidden quite well & is usually banter, occasionally explicit comments get made and we deal with them, but there is no point in dealing with minor banter (:

[Sammeth.]

the naughtiness in spam is often hidden quite well & is usually banter, occasionally explicit comments get made and we deal with them, but there is no point in dealing with minor banter (:
Im always sexually explicit :(

[today]

Im always sexually explicit :(
We've noticed..

[Hecktix]

Im always sexually explicit :(

I know I keep reporting you but you're still there :(

:P

[Sammeth.]

how dare you all!!!

[Skajo]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=5917087 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=5917087)

[AgnesIO]

Silly rule, but you would have to be careful.

Or you will end up with ten year olds saying:

"HAD SEX LST NITE, MY WILLY WENT...."

Won't continue, but you know what I mean :)

[Hecktix]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=5917087 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=5917087)

Note how that doesn't discuss a sexual act? Moreso a sexual relationship? Which we allow?

[lick]

why would you wanna make a thread describing sexual acts like

I PROBS BREAK THE RULES IN SPOILERS DONT LOOK IF YOU ARE OFFENDED
My willie went hard and i stuck it in her


no one wants to know about that

[Skajo]

Isn't a **** buddy someone you use to have sex - sex which is a sexual nature.

[buttons]

Isn't a **** buddy someone you use to have sex - sex which is a sexual nature.
-sigh- he's not describing how they have sex

[Skajo]

without love and compassion.

[AgnesIO]

why would you wanna make a thread describing sexual acts like

I PROBS BREAK THE RULES IN SPOILERS DONT LOOK IF YOU ARE OFFENDED
My willie went hard and i stuck it in her


no one wants to know about that


You would be surprised about who makes threads.

Younger users (like ten year olds) would think its 'cool'.:(

[lick]

But from the poll Habbox has hardly any of them users and ive never seen threads like that aprt from some rule breakers

[Jordan:A]

That is true!

[Jippz]

"Things of a sexual nature" are an important part of our lives. Granted, when in the wrong hands these "things" can be immature and just rude; but when handled maturely (and that doesn't exclude humour) they prove an interesting topic and an engaging conversation.
This rule is ridiculous and should be reworded and though about properly. For example "This topic has been reviewed, and after a second opinion, deemed unsuitable for the forum."
Hehe, i think i proved my point ^.^

[nvrspk4]

With regards to the OP - the first thread calls for the discussion and description of sexual acts. The Mentor polls do not call for description of the acts and is extremely borderline. However we made a choice and decided that instead of sticking to the letter of the rule, we would stick to the spirit of the rule, which ironically enough people have been begging for since I was a mod :rolleyes:

I see no need to describe sexual acts, I can see the point in discussing relationships, morality, etc.

With regards to one of Gomme's posts (too far in there to back in the thread to pull out dig up...I must watch my words in a thread like this) the rule is perhaps confusing, I should clarify that the bold is the rule, shortened whereas the non bold is the explanation of the rule, giving the actual rule in longer form. Therefore the non bold does not invalidate the bold text, however I do agree that they imply slightly different things so for clarification, its the nonbold, describing acts, that is the rule. Perhaps we should change the red bold text to "Describe" instead of "discuss".

The polls and such referring to average forum age are imprecise, at best.

[today]

With regards to the OP - the first thread calls for the discussion and description of sexual acts. The Mentor polls do not call for description of the acts and is extremely borderline. However we made a choice and decided that instead of sticking to the letter of the rule, we would stick to the spirit of the rule, which ironically enough people have been begging for since I was a mod :rolleyes:

I see no need to describe sexual acts, I can see the point in discussing relationships, morality, etc.

With regards to one of Gomme's posts (too far in there to back in the thread to pull out dig up...I must watch my words in a thread like this) the rule is perhaps confusing, I should clarify that the bold is the rule, shortened whereas the non bold is the explanation of the rule, giving the actual rule in longer form. Therefore the non bold does not invalidate the bold text, however I do agree that they imply slightly different things so for clarification, its the nonbold, describing acts, that is the rule. Perhaps we should change the red bold text to "Describe" instead of "discuss".

The polls and such referring to average forum age are imprecise, at best.
dont you go dission mentors polls now boyo!

[nvrspk4]

dont you go dission mentors polls now boyo!

I'll do whatever I like to Mentor ;)

[today]

I'll do whatever I like to Mentor ;)
Yeah, we've all heard the stories too!

[Skajo]

Changing the word discuss to describe gives the rule some sense.

Surprising how big of an effect one word can have.

[Mentor]

I'll do whatever I like to Mentor ;)
He does... horrible, sick things, things that cannot be spoken about on any forum :(
Thats why he keeps the rule, so i cannot speak of the events :(


On topic, if habbox is actually interested in gaging the real age group of the full forum, a good way to do this would be simply to attach my pole to the the top of all the forums for say a week (i think vb supports this feature)
Then users who wouldn't normally venture outside their forums would see it, probably vote and the end result would be a much more accurate picture of the forums main age groups :)

The idea to me sounds simple enough as i cant really think of any big downside for doing this as a one off thing :)

[StefanWolves]

I agree, if the management actually understood and changed their view on the age of habbox users now, then the rules could be tweaked and changed to suite the age of people that use this forum.

[nvrspk4]

Changing the word discuss to describe gives the rule some sense.

Surprising how big of an effect one word can have.

Noted, we'll get'er done.


He does... horrible, sick things, things that cannot be spoken about on any forum :(
Thats why he keeps the rule, so i cannot speak of the events :(

HEY! QUIET!


On topic, if habbox is actually interested in gaging the real age group of the full forum, a good way to do this would be simply to attach my pole to the the top of all the forums for say a week (i think vb supports this feature)
Then users who wouldn't normally venture outside their forums would see it, probably vote and the end result would be a much more accurate picture of the forums main age groups :)

The idea to me sounds simple enough as i cant really think of any big downside for doing this as a one off thing :)

I don't think that's a real factor in the equation here. At least I don't think of it that way. If this forum was full of mostly 15-18 year olds it wouldn't matter, you still wouldn't be allowed to describe sexual acts. Not necessarily because you don't know what they are, but because if that's what you want to talk about that's fine but this isn't the place to do it.

When questions of age are involved, we have to think of the minorities too. I'm not going to start setting up an age limit on the forum so there are certain things that will probably be implemented forever (ie: the filter). I generally make decisions based on what I feel is the maturity of the forum instead of the age. The idea that age defines maturity is a misconception held by many on this forum, perhaps this is subjective but as a 13 year old staff member here I was more mature than many 17 year olds who threw tantrums on a regular basis.

There is no decision I could think of (well at least the way I choose to evaluate things) that would be affected by a polling of the average age of users, with the exception of porn and sorry to burst your bubble but that is definitely not coming to Habbox.

There are both mature and immature members on Habbox so we need to cater to both categories. The older members, perhaps more mature in some cases, and not at all in others, whine of the annoying younger members, SOME of whom, I'll admit, they have a case about. But those older members are also at fault, because they're throwing that 11,12,13,14 year old into a 17-year-old level conversation and beating them down thinking of a 17 year old, not an 11-14 year old.

Basically, this forum probably won't become a place where we say, well this is a 15-17 year old forum so if you're 11-14 you better grow up pretty fast and if you're 22 you can come down to our level or get out. It will be a place where anyone of any age group can discuss as long as they abide by the rules ;)