F1 Discussions

[StefanWolves]

Well, there is a MotoGP thread stickied, so why not an F1? :)

I'm gonna kick it off with pretty much the biggest news this season.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8172310.stm

F1 legend, Michael Schumacher is considering a return to F1 as a replacement for Felipe Massa for the rest of the season.

I understand that this thread won't be popular until next months time because that's when the next race takes place (August 21 - 23, I think), but I would like this stickied if possible? :)

Anyway, thoughts? :)

Edited by Catzsy [Forum Super Moderator]: Thread stuck as approved by Matt Garner [Forum Manager]

[CJW93]

Love to see Schumi v Hamilton in Valeinca. I would love to see a f1 thread

[StefanWolves]

So would I!

And thanks for your support! :)

[Immenseman]

I'd love to see Schumacher replace Massa for the time being and win a couple of races

[StefanWolves]

I doubt he'd win a race TBH but I would like to see him try. :P

[Rock]

I highly doubt Michael would return. He has always said he has absolutely NO intention of returning to F1 *driving.

Of course I would love to see him racing but I think it his very unlikely. :@

[CJW93]

Hasn´t his super licence expired or something ? :(

[Rock]

I dunno but I am lolling at your sig !!!

[Smiddy]

Why don't they just use Alonso, after all he is going there next year anyway :rolleyes_

[Immenseman]

I highly doubt Michael would return. He has always said he has absolutely NO intention of returning to F1 *driving.

Of course I would love to see him racing but I think it his very unlikely. :@
yeah, he has said that in the past but it'll hardly be a permanent thing

[Rock]

Why don't they just use Alonso, after all he is going there next year anyway :rolleyes_

...and replacing who? Raikkonen, still a year on his contract, or Massa, also a year on his contract?


yeah, he has said that in the past but it'll hardly be a permanent thing


I hope so any way :)

[Rock]

omg this thread is like totally stickied. YEEPPEEE. Anyway Felipe Massa is expected to be leaving hospital in about a week so, progressing well. :D

[Kardan]

I think it'd be great to see Michael replace Felipe. He said that he doesn't want to return to F1, but this isn't a perm return :P I think I read somewhere that Michael's spokesperson said he was in talks with Ferrari about taking up the seat.

Coulthard is also rumoured to possibly be filling in for him, it'll be interesting though. As for whoever said get Alonso to do it, I don't think Renault will agree to that, and I don't even know if that's allowed? :S

[CJW93]

Dc back behind the wheel. Eddie Jordan will have a great laugh

[StefanWolves]

If DC gets back behind the wheel then I'd be quite happy to see it, I like him as a person, he has a great attitude, and would do great to fill in for just 7 races, you can rely on him to do a good job.

[iAdam]

Because MotoGP is better ;)

With all this Schu business, I don't believe the FIA will allow it, as Ferrari already have spare drivers, besides he's been out of it for years now he'll be off pace.

[StefanWolves]

Isn't Schumi a test driver? so technically he is a spare driver. ;)

[xxMATTGxx]

Because MotoGP is better ;)

With all this Schu business, I don't believe the FIA will allow it, as Ferrari already have spare drivers, besides he's been out of it for years now he'll be off pace.

This thread should be kept to F1 Discussions, not MotoGP ;).

[iAdam]

Isn't Schumi a test driver? so technically he is a spare driver. ;)

Yeah for Ferrari's road cars not motorsport cars so technically it shouldn't be allowed. Imagine this if tey had brokeaway, ferrari governing the sport, shambles.

And I did comment on F1 too.

[Jordy]

If DC gets back behind the wheel then I'd be quite happy to see it, I like him as a person, he has a great attitude, and would do great to fill in for just 7 races, you can rely on him to do a good job.He was bloody crap last year, every race he retired in the first lap, constantly making mistakes and driving into people, the loony should of gave up years before.

I agree a Schumacher return would be very interesting but his manager seems to of ruled him out already: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77396 so very unlikely.

I'd personally love to see Sutil replace Massa, put him in a decent car and he'd win grand prix's.

[StefanWolves]

You can't blame DC for having a crap that he can't control though. :P

TBH, If Massa isn't back by next year, Vettel will take his place, Raikonnen will have one last season next year with Ferrari, then if Massa is ready to come back the season after that then Raikonnen will move on, Leaving Vettel and Massa.

Vettal is definately a Ferrari driver in waiting.

[Jordy]

You can't blame DC for having a crap that he can't control though. :P

TBH, If Massa isn't back by next year, Vettel will take his place, Raikonnen will have one last season next year with Ferrari, then if Massa is ready to come back the season after that then Raikonnen will move on, Leaving Vettel and Massa.

Vettal is definately a Ferrari driver in waiting.DC has an awful retirement record, he got 8 points last year (most of which from the canadian grand prix) and came 16th overall. I believe even Bourdais would drive better than him at the moment.

I don't see Vettel moving from Red Bull, I'm lead to believe he's got a huge contract with them. Red Bull are now winning grand prix's and are capable of winning championships at the moment, Vettel doesn't need to move to Ferrari and nor will Red Bull ever let him go to Ferrari. Red Bull have spent colossal amounts of money trying to find decent drivers and they've hit the jackpot with Vettel.

I agree though, Massa & Raikonnen will be gone in the next season or two. I'd like to see Alonso & Sutil replace them, two excellent drivers stuck in crap cars.

[StefanWolves]

You forget the Ferrari practically runs/owns Red Bull and Toro Rosso. ;)

I could see Alonso in the Ferrari though, I won't even understand why he went back to Renault, what a waste of time.

I think in the future it'll definately be Alonso/Vettel/Massa.

[Jordy]

You forget the Ferrari practically runs/owns Red Bull and Toro Rosso. ;)

I could see Alonso in the Ferrari though, I won't even understand why he went back to Renault, what a waste of time.

I think in the future it'll definately be Alonso/Vettel/Massa.I agree about Alonso, he did well at McLaren despite the pitiful fallouts etc. Saying that he did win two races with Renault last year but he's a world championship driver, he has the potential to win much more than that.

Ferrari does not run or own Red Bull and Toro Rosso. Toro Rosso uses Ferrari engines and that's as far as it goes, Toro Rosso is being sold anyway, next year it won't be ran under Red Bull due to new rules. Red Bull are one of Ferrari's biggest rivals now and all the huge amounts of money they've been pouring into motorsport have came from Red Bull.

[iAdam]

I still stand by my word. Massa will not race in F1 again, Alonso shot himself in the foot by moving back to renault and now I don't think anyone will take him.

[StefanWolves]

Oh really? I thought Ferraris sister cars were Torro Rosso and Red Bulls? that's the impression I always got anyway?

And yeah, Alonso was pretty unlucky to be at McLaren when Hamilton first hit the stage, and blew everyone away, he kind of had to take a back seat which he didn't like and TBH it made him look like a spoilt kid trying to get attention at times.

[xxMATTGxx]

Oh really? I thought Ferraris sister cars were Torro Rosso and Red Bulls? that's the impression I always got anyway?

And yeah, Alonso was pretty unlucky to be at McLaren when Hamilton first hit the stage, and blew everyone away, he kind of had to take a back seat which he didn't like and TBH it made him look like a spoilt kid trying to get attention at times.

I hardly think so when Red Bull now use Renault engines :P

[StefanWolves]

Really? wow I'm not up to date, thought they were still Ferraris? o.O

[xxMATTGxx]

Really? wow I'm not up to date, thought they were still Ferraris? o.O

In 2008 they did, If I remember correctly. :P

[StefanWolves]

You are a dark horse aren't ya! didn't have you down as a sporty person TBH. :P

[xxMATTGxx]

You are a dark horse aren't ya! didn't have you down as a sporty person TBH. :P

I'm not really into sports. I do love watching Formula One though :D. Maybe the odd Manchester United match as well, but not really a big football fan to be honest. :)

[StefanWolves]

Haha yeah, F1 is for the more technical minded, I don't get all the pit stop strategies and what not, I just love to watch Qualifying and high speed racing, love it when it rains, always want to see any British riders doing well ect, crashes are always good to watch, but not when they are life threatening. :P

[xxMATTGxx]

Haha yeah, F1 is for the more technical minded, I don't get all the pit stop strategies and what not, I just love to watch Qualifying and high speed racing, love it when it rains, always want to see any British riders doing well ect, crashes are always good to watch, but not when they are life threatening. :P

The pits was shocking on Sunday apart from McLaren's who kept getting it correct. :P

[Geraint]

Haha yeah, F1 is for the more technical minded, I don't get all the pit stop strategies and what not, I just love to watch Qualifying and high speed racing, love it when it rains, always want to see any British riders doing well ect, crashes are always good to watch, but not when they are life threatening. :P

more fuel = slower car, less pit-stops
less fuel = faster car, more pit-stops

pretty much.

[StefanWolves]

I gathered that but with how much fuel gained by how many seconds theyre in their for and fuel strategies ect like 3 stops and 2 stops, I get em but I don't see the point.

No refuelling next year though. :(

[Rock]

Willi Weber is adamant - Shumi won't race..


Michael Schumacher's manager Willi Weber is adamant that the German will not be replacing Felipe Massa in the European GP.

With Massa still in hospital following his horrific qualifying accident in Hungary, Ferrari are on the look-out for a replacement.

Thoughts immediately turned to seven-time World Champion Schumacher, with the British press reporting that Ferrari are "open" to him taking up the reigns while Massa is recuperating.

The reports gained momentum when Schumacher's spokeswoman Sabine Kehm told the BBC that "the whole thing will be considered by Ferrari. If they approach Michael, then he will consider it."

Cold water
However, the German's manager has now poured cold water over the reports, saying Schumacher "will not" make a return in Valencia.

"Whoever sits in the car at the next race in Valencia, it will not be Michael Schumacher. I am not 100 per cent sure; I am 200 per cent sure," he told the Daily Mail.

"The pressure on him would be huge. He would be expected to win, but he has not driven this car. When Michael was racing he would get as close to perfection as possible. In this case, it would not be perfection; it would be a gamble - and that's not Michael's style."

:( :( :(

WHYYYY..???

[xxMATTGxx]

BMW's future in Formula 1 is in doubt amid speculation they are to pull out at the end of this season.

The German car manufacturer have called an emergency news conference at 0900 BST citing "current developments in motor sport" as the reason.

F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone said the team had given themselves three years to win the world championship.

"It's not quite been like that so perhaps that's why they've [decided] to stop," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.

"When you consider how much money they've spent and the results they've got, it's probably not such a good investment.

"They were quite sure that they were going to win the championship within three years, and I was hoping they would."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8173865.stm

[Rock]

They invested in Williams and came really close to winning. They pretty much have done the same with Sauber. If they decide not to invest in another F1 team I will be really disappointed because the BMW engines/teams have been quite successful and I think they can eventually make a championship winning team.

When they supplied engines to Williams, Juan Pablo Montoya came 2nd in the world champinship and they became one of the three big teams in 2007 and 2008, managing to overthrow Renault, which is a massive acheivement. Like I said, I hope they try again. Third time lucky???

[-Heart]

BMW Sauber to pull out of F1 at the end of the season, breaking news on SSN.

[Rock]

BMW Sauber to pull out of F1 at the end of the season, breaking news on SSN.

Yep quite disappointing..

[-Heart]

Yep quite disappointing..
A number of new teams put their names forward for competing next season, so should be quite interesting.

[Jordy]

A number of new teams put their names forward for competing next season, so should be quite interesting.Yeah there's three new one's next season and there's now potential for a fourth if they put BMW up for sale and manage to get someone to buy it.

[Judge Judy]

The pits was shocking on Sunday apart from McLaren's who kept getting it correct. :P
McLaren's pit stops were quite funny... all the teams were rushing trying to catch up to Lewis (and hope they leap frog but fail) and they made mistakes whereas McL were just chilling taking their time :P


Willi Weber is adamant - Shumi won't race..



:( :( :(

WHYYYY..???
He's 40... and he has had an accident (motorcycle I think) earlier this year and still has a bad neck, so I don't think he'd be able to take a few Gs on the corners.
Ferrari should just use their test/spare drivers - that's what they're there for. David Coulthard couldn't join Ferrari anyway; he's still under contract with Red Bull (unless RB allow DC to 'help' Ferrari).

[StefanWolves]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8173865.stm

BMW to quit F1, thought this would be happening, but I didn't think it would, but now it's official.

No more BMW next season.

Sorry if it's already been posted, I only just got up lol, it's news to me anyway. XD

[Kardan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8173865.stm

BMW to quit F1, thought this would be happening, but I didn't think it would, but now it's official.

No more BMW next season.

Sorry if it's already been posted, I only just got up lol, it's news to me anyway. XD

Kubica was a championship contender aswell last season :( Hopefully he'll get a contract with another team :)

[CJW93]

Heidfeld for Williams Kubica for Mclaren please

[StefanWolves]

Kubica and Hamilton for McLaren sounds rather tasty.

[Orangeesh]

Kubica and Hamilton for McLaren sounds rather tasty.

wot bout kovalainen?

[CJW93]

Renault. Bye bye Nelson

[StefanWolves]

Kova doesn't do it for McLaren unfortunately.

[Rock]

Yeah Heikki has been a flop for Mclaren. Kubica would be amazing in Mclaren ;o

[StefanWolves]

Kubica, not proven really, could be all hype.

I'd love to see Button & Hamilton at McLaren. :P

[Rock]

Kubica, not proven really, could be all hype.

I'd love to see Button & Hamilton at McLaren. :P

Ugh, for some reason I hope not. Kubica went onto the final week, still in with a chance of becoming world champion in a BMW, when Raikkonen didn't in the Ferrari (:rolleyes:) and Heikki didn't in the McLaren and so on. So for that reason I have respect for him and think he would be pretty good.

[CJW93]

I still like Kovalainen, he is pretty badass. Shame he only has one race win

[StefanWolves]

SCHUMACHER OUT OF RETIREMENT

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport {yellow strop at the top of the page}

I TOLD YOU ALL!

[Judge Judy]

Wow I stand corrected. I'm actually surprised. haha
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8172310.stm

[StefanWolves]

incredible news, can't wait for the next race...

[CJW93]

Schumi v Hamilton is on :)

[Jam]

No refuelling next year though. :(

Wasn't that changed when they agreed for 2009 Rules?

Anyways, Schuey will be interesting and will half the fans even turn up seeing as Renault and especially Alonso aren't there?

[xxMATTGxx]

Wasn't that changed when they agreed for 2009 Rules?

Anyways, Schuey will be interesting and will half the fans even turn up seeing as Renault and especially Alonso aren't there?

Not according to what the guy said on BBC last Sunday. As they were showing how fuelling was done and so on but it gets banned next you :P.

[Rock]

OMGGGGGGG YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

FORZA FERRARI!!

LOL I can't believe Shumi is back!!! Can't wait till next race! BRING IT ON!

[Jordy]

OMGGGGGGG YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

FORZA FERRARI!!

LOL I can't believe Shumi is back!!! Can't wait till next race! BRING IT ON!Although I'm interested by the Schumacher return to see how he compares against the rest and whether he's still got it I don't see what's so likeable about him.

The Schumacher days were boring, he'd just win races straight because his car was so much better and because he was a much better driver. There was no competitiveness at all. And when it didn't go his way he'd just drive very dirty, constantly breaking rules and sometimes getting away with it. What's so good about him?

[Rock]

Although I'm interested by the Schumacher return to see how he compares against the rest and whether he's still got it I don't see what's so likeable about him.

I like his driving style and the fact that he acheived so much and will forever live down as a great driver.


The Schumacher days were boring, he'd just win races straight because his car was so much better and because he was a much better driver. There was no competitiveness at all.

I found the Schumacher days more interesting as he dominated than I enjoyed watching Jenson Button winning over and over again.


And when it didn't go his way he'd just drive very dirty, constantly breaking rules and sometimes getting away with it.

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww74/rockdog03/CCAJQ7RX1CAO20C7LCAJMVX1QCAOV44NNCA.jpg http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww74/rockdog03/GCASNI67ACA7YQ6BSCA52QBTVCA9PDOFRCA.jpg http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww74/rockdog03/OCA8ZIQDLCAYX7ACGCAX9GJWUCA3NJ9GMCA.jpg

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ujVU6C7VKk

These pics and the video above are from the Canadian Grand Prix 2008 when Lewis Hamilton "accidently" crashed into the back of Kimi Raikkonen inside the pits because he "clearly" did not see the red light telling him to STOP.

So, my friend, every driver plays dirty.


What's so good about him?

Oh, I don't know he is just, arguably, the greatest F1 driver of all time?

[StefanWolves]

he is the greatest driver of all time, but he is still a ***.

[CJW93]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpClyplF4fo&feature=related

That pissed me off

[Jordy]

I like his driving style and the fact that he acheived so much and will forever live down as a great driver.

I found the Schumacher days more interesting as he dominated than I enjoyed watching Jenson Button winning over and over again.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ujVU6C7VKk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ujVU6C7VKk)

These pics and the video above are from the Canadian Grand Prix 2008 when Lewis Hamilton "accidently" crashed into the back of Kimi Raikkonen inside the pits because he "clearly" did not see the red light telling him to STOP.

So, my friend, every driver plays dirty.

Oh, I don't know he is just, arguably, the greatest F1 driver of all time?How does Lewis Hamilton cheating make Schumacher no longer a cheater? Although I do believe Hamilton can have a dirty driving style at times, I don't believe that's an example of it. A better example would be how last season he frequently swerved infront of people to prevent overtaking and almost forcing people off the track. Senna and Schumacher were both dirty drivers and Hamilton's marginal.

The Schumacher days were so boring, he'd always get pole and he'd get such a lead over the other cars that when he pitted he'd come out still first, it was ridiculously boring to watch and he'd already won the championship by the Summer. I'm not criticising him there because that's obviously a good combination of a brilliant driver and car but the races were never the less boring. And when things weren't going his way, Barrichello would just hand him over a win or he'd play dirty.

These days the championship is so much more exciting, at this stage no one knows who's going to win the championship. It has came down to the last race for the past 2 years, now that is interesting racing and why I watch it ;)

[xxMATTGxx]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46134000/jpg/_46134298_lewis466getty.jpg


Reigning F1 world champion Lewis Hamilton says it will be "an honour and a privilege" to race against seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher.

The German is coming out of retirement to drive for Ferrari while Felipe Massa recovers from a crash and will return to racing at the European Grand Prix.

"He is one of the sport's greatest competitors, a legend - it'd be great to compete against him," said Hamilton.

"The whole world will be watching his return to the cockpit in Valencia."

Schumacher, 40, retired at the end of 2006 but has remained closely involved with Ferrari.

The German will now cover for his former team-mate Massa while the Brazilian recovers from the serious injuries he suffered when he crashed in qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix, which was won by Hamilton.

The English driver has previously spoken of his regret at never having had an opportunity to go head to head with Schumacher, but at the next grand prix, on the street circuit in Valencia, he will finally get his chance.

"It will not only be fascinating to see how he readies himself for his grand prix comeback, but also an honour and a privilege to race against him for the very first time. I wish him well," added Hamilton

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8176799.stm

[Judge Judy]

Date set for Renault appeal

http://www.formula1.com/photos/225x/tvimages/2009/hungary/sunpic9.jpg (http://www.formula1.com/photos/597x478/tvimages/2009/hungary/sunpic9.jpg) http://www.formula1.com/photos/225x/tvimages/2009/hungary/sunpic10.jpg (http://www.formula1.com/photos/597x478/tvimages/2009/hungary/sunpic10.jpg)
A date has been set for the FIA International Court of Appeal hearing into Renault’s suspension from the European Grand Prix. It will take place in Paris on August 17, the Monday before the Valencia race, with a verdict expected the following day.

Renault were handed the punishment at last weekend’s Hungarian Grand Prix. The team were found at fault for allowing driver Fernando Alonso to leave the pits with a wheel that hadn’t been properly secured. When Alonso returned to the track, the front-right wheel eventually worked its way loose.

Budapest stewards said they believed Renault had knowingly released Alonso without one of the retaining devices for the wheel-nuts being securely in position; that being aware of this, the team had failed to take any action to prevent the car from leaving the pit lane; and that they had then failed to inform the driver of this problem or to advise him to take appropriate action given the circumstances.

If the team’s appeal fails, both the Spaniard and team mate Nelson Piquet will be forced to sit out the European meeting, which will take place on August 21-23.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/7/9707.html
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Oh and this is information on the helmet used in F1... which basically saved Massa's life, yes?
http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2009/7/9708.html

[CJW93]

Mercedes apparently considering pulling out of F1. Who would supply Mclaren, Force India and Brawn with engines?

[StefanWolves]

Ferrari?

Williams?

Renault?

[CJW93]

Williams don't make engines. Maybe Cosworth could supply Campos, Usf1, Mannor and Mclaren

[Jordy]

Are they definitely supplying the other three? Due to Toyota and Renault selling their engines to other teams in recent years we haven't seen any Cosworths in Formula 1 for a while.

[CJW93]

Cosworth announced they would supply engines for the 3 new teams in 2010 about 2 months ago

[Jam]

Anyone think Rosberg will move somewhere? I'd love to see him go to McLaren in place of Kova, but its unlikely. Then Buemi go to Williams when Toro Rosso gets bought.

[CJW93]

Rosberg will be at Mclaren I hope

[Jam]

Yeah. Can't see where Heidfeld, Kubica, Piquet or Alguersuari will go, and Sutil and Fisi need to either get a good car or get the hell out of Force India, although more likely Fisi will retire than anything.

[Catzsy]

Massa leaves hospital!
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/massa-leaves-hospital-after-accident-1766686.html

According to the news today he doesn't remember anything of the accidentr and won't be racing again this season.

2009 Concorde agreement signed!
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/8/9713.html

Max Moseley will still be around, though. :(

[Judge Judy]

I'm sure Max Mosley stood down as FIA President???? Unless he has a new role which covers this agreement.
---------
Anyway as expected, Piquet is bye-bye.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/8/9719.html

[CJW93]

Didn't take him long to start talking crap about renualt

[Jordy]

Massa leaves hospital!
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/massa-leaves-hospital-after-accident-1766686.html

According to the news today he doesn't remember anything of the accidentr and won't be racing again this season.

2009 Concorde agreement signed!
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/8/9713.html

Max Moseley will still be around, though. :(I thought it was part of the Concorde agreement that he won't stand for FIA President again in October? I hope so anyway, he's pretty much killing the sport.

[CJW93]

Canada is set to return to the Formula One calendar next year, Bernie Ecclestone has said.

The Circuit Gilles Villeneuve event was omitted from this year's schedule after the F1 chief executive failed to agree financial terms with race organisers.

However Ecclestone has been under intense pressure to reinstate the race as soon as possible, especially as the crucial North American market is now completely missing from the calendar.

"I promise we will be in Montreal in 2010," he told Switzerland's Motorsport Aktuell. "Everyone in Formula One loves the Canadian Grand Prix."

He had bad news however for those hoping the United States might quickly return to the schedule. "Forget Indianapolis. We're not going back there," he said.



Ecclestone also suggested that Britain's annual date is not under threat, explaining that if Donington can deliver "then we will be there - if not, then we will be staying in Silverstone.”

Ecclestone also said he hopes Korea and India are the next countries to host Grand Prix.


Pleased that Canada could be back :)

[Catzsy]

I heard somewhere that Max Moseley had changed his mind and decided to stand again as president because he had a lot of support from within the FIA. Do hope I have misunderstood.

[Jordy]

Canada is set to return to the Formula One calendar next year, Bernie Ecclestone has said.

The Circuit Gilles Villeneuve event was omitted from this year's schedule after the F1 chief executive failed to agree financial terms with race organisers.

However Ecclestone has been under intense pressure to reinstate the race as soon as possible, especially as the crucial North American market is now completely missing from the calendar.

"I promise we will be in Montreal in 2010," he told Switzerland's Motorsport Aktuell. "Everyone in Formula One loves the Canadian Grand Prix."

He had bad news however for those hoping the United States might quickly return to the schedule. "Forget Indianapolis. We're not going back there," he said.



Ecclestone also suggested that Britain's annual date is not under threat, explaining that if Donington can deliver "then we will be there - if not, then we will be staying in Silverstone.”

Ecclestone also said he hopes Korea and India are the next countries to host Grand Prix.


Pleased that Canada could be back :)I'm also glad about Canada returning, mainly because it's a race in North America which is good for the sport but it is a very nice track.

India? Pfft get real, F1 is getting bigger over there but the country of China can't even fill up the Shanghai circuit so it's never going to get much support over there. Instead they should be pushing for it to return to the likes of France, USA and San Marino. There's even doubt over a German grand prix next year despite them having two great circuits.

As for his comment on the British Grand Prix, I wouldn't trust that until I see it happening.

[Jam]

The Canadian's also said that they've made no deal whatsoever with the FIA so Bernie's talking out of his rear.

[StefanWolves]

Tbh Bernie is a total **** head.

But their will be a british gp for many years to come, that you can be sure of.

[xxMATTGxx]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46187000/jpg/_46187457_schum466_body.jpg


Seven-time Formula 1 champion Michael Schumacher has abandoned his comeback with Ferrari because of a neck injury.

The 40-year-old, who retired at the end of 2006, was set to deputise for the injured Felipe Massa at the European Grand Prix in Valencia on 23 August.

"Unfortunately we did not manage to get a grip on the pain in the neck which occurred after the private F1-day in Mugello," Schumacher told his website.

Schumacher suffered the neck injury in a bike accident in February.

"The consequences of the injuries caused by the bike accident in February, fractures in the area of head and neck, unfortunately have turned out to be still too severe," he added.

"That is why my neck cannot stand the extreme stresses caused by F1 yet. These are the clear results of the examinations we did on the course of the past two weeks and the final examination on Monday afternoon.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8186319.stm

[StefanWolves]

oh crap, gutting news... was so looking forward to seeing him back driving... :(

[Black_Apalachi]

I know, I'm well gutted. Although I bet those two stand-in drivers were a bit pissed off when they heard Schumacher was jumpin in ahead of them :P.

God I haven't seen any F1 since I went to Glastonbury! :s

[e5]

Would have been good to see him actually driving again;l

[Jordy]

I agree it's rather disappointing.

Just been looking at this Luca Badoer's Wikipedia and to be honest, he makes Piquet look good. "Badoer holds the dubious distinction of being the driver who has competed in the most Grands Prix (48) without scoring a single point."

[-paul.]

it would have been good but i think its the right decision if it was causing neck trouble

[The Professor]

I agree it's rather disappointing.

Just been looking at this Luca Badoer's Wikipedia and to be honest, he makes Piquet look good. "Badoer holds the dubious distinction of being the driver who has competed in the most Grands Prix (48) without scoring a single point."

Exactly. He drove for Forti which, aside from MasterCard Lola, was one of the most fail F1 teams ever. I suppose you can't expect much if you drive for backmarker teams all your career with a scoring system that only awards points to the 6 highest places, but still!

[Jordy]

Exactly. He drove for Forti which, aside from MasterCard Lola, was one of the most fail F1 teams ever. I suppose you can't expect much if you drive for backmarker teams all your career with a scoring system that only awards points to the 6 highest places, but still!That's true, he's got the advantage though that he has 10 years experience with the Ferrari car and he's driven it more than any other driver so that could possibly pay dividends.

[Rock]

I would have liked Gene to replace Massa.

[CJW93]

Rather Ms, but if he is hurt he is hurt :(

[The Professor]

That's true, he's got the advantage though that he has 10 years experience with the Ferrari car and he's driven it more than any other driver so that could possibly pay dividends.

I disagree that driving for ferrari previously is an advantage because this year's cars are so dramatically different from previous years cars. Even MS wanted a test with it so he could learn to drive it, even after driving for ferrari for 11 seasons previously. I think they'd have been better off going with someone like Sato or Liuzzi or Bourdais who are younger and have more recent experience. Alguesari (sp?) demonstrated you can stay on the pace the first time you jump into a car and those 3 at least have some decent races to their names.

[Rock]

Schumi's defended Ferrari's choice of Badeour (or however u spell it).

[Jordy]

Renault has been cleared and can now race in the European Grand Prix which is surely good news for everyone...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8169649.stm

[CJW93]

Massa hoping to be back for Brazil. Good luck to him and the new Renualt driver (I cant spell his silly name).

A podium for Lewis this weekend please

[The Professor]

Massa hoping to be back for Brazil. Good luck to him and the new Renualt driver (I cant spell his silly name).

A podium for Lewis this weekend please

Lol Grosjean isn't any harder to spell than Bourdais or Piquet :P He's supposed to be highly rated so it should be interesting how well he does. That said, Piquet was really good in GP2 and we all know how his F1 career went.

[Jam]

Ima guess Hamilton/Vettel/Webber podium at Valencia.

[CJW93]

Vettel Webber Hamilton Button Barichello

But I want Lewis to win :)

[Jam]

Vettel Webber Hamilton Button Barichello

But I want Lewis to win :)

Brawn? No chance in hell. But I'm off for my team shirt tommorrow anyways (:

[CJW93]

If your looking for a mclaren shirt, you just missed their 30% off mid season sale on their website.

Looking good in P1 for Mclaren

2 Heiki
3 Hamilton



WOOO!

[Catzsy]

Brawn? No chance in hell. But I'm off for my team shirt tommorrow anyways (:

I think they will be in the mix. :)

[StefanWolves]

The Brawns do well in hotter countries, and Spain is one of those, should be interesting to say the least, come on Button&Hamilton.

[Jordy]

The Brawns do well in hotter countries, and Spain is one of those, should be interesting to say the least, come on Button&Hamilton.They did well in practise so there's a hope they've corrected their car.

It seems they were one of the few manufacturers at the start of the season to have a good car, while everyone else has improved their cars, Brawn hasn't kept up and seems to of updated it which has done exactly the opposite and made the cars worse. Hopefully it'll now be sorted :)

[Jam]

Q1's starting now, anyone else think Renault will low fuel Alonso again for pole?

[StefanWolves]

Maybe yeh, but I don't see the point in it, cause it wouldn't make him competitive for the race tomorrow, he'd just fall down the grid.

[Rock]

Well done Hamilton on pole. Great performance for Alguersari by beating that useless lump Badeor. Good job also for Grosjean. Solid first performance.

Well done Kimi! Hopefully 6th can turn into top 4 finish.

[Kardan]

Hamilton is back :D Now all he needs to do is win the rest of the races and for Button, Webber, Vettel and Barrichello to do terrible and we'll have a good end of season result :D

[CJW93]

Mclaren 1 and 2 :) Gosh I was so happy watching Qualifying today. Lewis will win but I reckon that Heiki will finish 3rd at the best

[Catzsy]

Hamilton is back :D Now all he needs to do is win the rest of the races and for Button, Webber, Vettel and Barrichello to do terrible and we'll have a good end of season result :D

I think that will be a unfulfilled wish although it would be exciting to see Lewis win the next 5 races and then it would be head to head with Jenson in the last race. It has come too late for Lewis I think but the constructors could still be up for grabs.

[CJW93]

The title went for Lewis a long time ago. the best I think he could do is get to 5th place in the championship or break into the top 4. Hopefully I'm wrong though

[Jam]

I think but the constructors could still be up for grabs.

Hell no, Heikki's had a good day, Hamilton can't win it on his own.

[Catzsy]

Hell no, Heikki's had a good day, Hamilton can't win it on his own.

No not necessarily by MacLaren - It could be a fight between Brawn and Red Bull.

[StefanWolves]

I reckon Brawn were carrying some fuel in practice, they are the ones to watch IMO, the Red Bulls haven't looked fast at all this weekend.

[Jordy]

Dreadful grand prix, I can't help but think it's the worst track in Formula 1. There was no decent over-taking at all, mainly because the track is setup so badly. There's no decent corners, it's all just straight and fast. The scenery is so boring, it's mostly just an industry estate and the huge bars around the track make it even worse. Get rid of this terrible track.

Badoer was awful, he spun it atleast three times and received a penalty. Oh and he let the Renault coming out the pit lane for some reason.

[xxMATTGxx]

Well done to BAR for getting first in five years, bless him. Also well done for Lewis getting 2nd. :)

[StefanWolves]

Dreadful grand prix, I can't help but think it's the worst track in Formula 1. There was no decent over-taking at all, mainly because the track is setup so badly. There's no decent corners, it's all just straight and fast. The scenery is so boring, it's mostly just an industry estate and the huge bars around the track make it even worse. Get rid of this terrible track.

Badoer was awful, he spun it atleast three times and received a penalty. Oh and he let the Renault coming out the pit lane for some reason.

Couldn't agree more, the track is crap, Badoer is ****, and the race was so boring I flicked over to the cricket.

Told you lot that Brawn were the ones to watch, didn't I?

[CJW93]

Brawn wasn't as good as Legard was saying, Mclaren make mistakes. However pleased for Rubbens. Still Mclarens 2nd and 4th a fantastic result. And Button just scoring 2 points Haha

[Jam]

Badoer was awful, Grosjean was very good and the race was boring as hell. All street circuits seem to be boring except Monaco, and there's still that night one to go, Singapore? I can't remember. Anyways, another GP next weekend, can't wait.

Oh yeah, and wd Rubens.

EDIT: Anyone see Whitmarsh when he was asked about the pit lane screw up and basically denied that made any difference? What a load.

[Catzsy]

Brawn wasn't as good as Legard was saying, Mclaren make mistakes. However pleased for Rubbens. Still Mclarens 2nd and 4th a fantastic result. And Button just scoring 2 points Haha

I think despite the problem with the tyres at the pitstop there was only 2.1 second between them. Lewis had an 8.1 stop and Ruebans was 6.0 so he would have still been in the lead but it would have been a closer race. Also I really don't think Jenson had anything to worry about. The closest any driver can come now is to draw with him and I cannot see one driver winning all five races. Also I believe that Lewis came in despite being told to stay out for another lap.

[Jam]

Also I really don't think Jenson had anything to worry about. The closest any driver can come now is to draw with him and I cannot see one driver winning all five races.


1. Jenson Button - 72
2. Rubens Barrichello - 54
3. Mark Webber - 51.5
4. Sebastian Vettel - 47

I can very easily see Webber and/or Vettel winning another 2 races, and then getting whatever points here and there. I can't see Button getting on the podium again.

RBR are strong, today was their only low points scoring weekend in recent memory. I expect both of them to be back on the podium next weekend.

EDIT: Plus I think Rubens will get a few more podiums, so he can also easily be a threat to Jenson

[Catzsy]

I can very easily see Webber and/or Vettel winning another 2 races, and then getting whatever points here and there. I can't see Button getting on the podium again.

RBR are strong, today was their only low points scoring weekend in recent memory. I expect both of them to be back on the podium next weekend.

EDIT: Plus I think Rubens will get a few more podiums, so he can also easily be a threat to Jenson

But its not to do with points - its on number of wins this year and Jenson has 6 wins and there are only 5 races to go - that's almost impossible for anybody to catch up. Also I don't think we have seen the last of Jenson on the podium. Red Bull also have almost finished their allocation of engines for the season and Vettel will take a 10 place penalty in the next race as his engine failed today. I think he only has two engines to last him.

[Jam]

But its not to do with points - its on number of wins this year.

No it isn't. They changed that before the season started, hence why the table is in points, not wins.

[Catzsy]

No it isn't. They changed that before the season started, hence why the table is in points, not wins.

Its the other way around. Lewis won on points last year - it's on wins this year. If it had been on wins last year Massa would won.

http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/2009/03/17/winner-takes-it-all-in-f1/

[Jam]

That article is out of date: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7955790.stm

Its definatly on points.

[Catzsy]

That article is out of date: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7955790.stm

Its definatly on points.

Oh wow - I missed that one. Oh the cat could well be amongst the pigeons then. Could be very exciting. Thanks.
Yes a bit more clear here:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/03/23/2523481.htm

[Rock]

Got a few comments on the race.

Badeor was dreadful and I think Ferrari should find an immediate replacement. It just can't go on like this. I feel bringing in Nelson Piquet Jr. would be a good decision because he has more recent experience and would atleast be challenging for points. The problem is time and whether Ferrari would be able to sort him ( or any driver ) out to replace Badeor for the next race, next week. ( I think its next week anyway. )

Also realised that Ferrari have managed a good amount of podiums with Massa not injured and with Kimi. I think that the return of form has been brilliant with Mclarens and I think that if Massa didn't have that freak accident then it would have been a fantastic battle between Ferrari and Mclaren again atleast for 4th because they are clearly the strongest after Brawn and Red Bull. A very big shame that Schumi could not return and Massa was injured.

A great result for Rubens and he definitely deserved it after 5 years. He is a great sportsman and it made me feel a lot of respect for him that he dedicated the win for Felipe with the helmet thing. Button's mistake at the beginning was pretty typical and this time he couldn't really gain back his position like he used to before the rest of the pack improved their paces. I think his pace towards the end was fantastic and if Brawn want to get him back up to strength they should stick to that.

Toyota's pace was very poor but Kubica did well and its clear he wants to give a good impression before he goes looking for a new job.

As a Kimi Raikkonen fan I am very disappointed that Alonso is almost definitely coming but I am very curious at who he is going to replace. Both Massa and Kimi have a year on contract and I think that him coming is pointless. If Alonso does come next year I think that he (disappointingly) will replace Raikkonen. It will be exciting to see whether Raikkonen will stay in F1 or retire. I think that him going to Mclaren again would be brilliant because Mclaren do need a good second driver.

Thoughts on where Raikkonen will go (if he doesn't retire) and who will replace Badoer (if anyone)?

[Jordy]

Got a few comments on the race.

Badeor was dreadful and I think Ferrari should find an immediate replacement. It just can't go on like this. I feel bringing in Nelson Piquet Jr. would be a good decision because he has more recent experience and would atleast be challenging for points. The problem is time and whether Ferrari would be able to sort him ( or any driver ) out to replace Badeor for the next race, next week. ( I think its next week anyway. )

Also realised that Ferrari have managed a good amount of podiums with Massa not injured and with Kimi. I think that the return of form has been brilliant with Mclarens and I think that if Massa didn't have that freak accident then it would have been a fantastic battle between Ferrari and Mclaren again atleast for 4th because they are clearly the strongest after Brawn and Red Bull. A very big shame that Schumi could not return and Massa was injured.

A great result for Rubens and he definitely deserved it after 5 years. He is a great sportsman and it made me feel a lot of respect for him that he dedicated the win for Felipe with the helmet thing. Button's mistake at the beginning was pretty typical and this time he couldn't really gain back his position like he used to before the rest of the pack improved their paces. I think his pace towards the end was fantastic and if Brawn want to get him back up to strength they should stick to that.

Toyota's pace was very poor but Kubica did well and its clear he wants to give a good impression before he goes looking for a new job.

As a Kimi Raikkonen fan I am very disappointed that Alonso is almost definitely coming but I am very curious at who he is going to replace. Both Massa and Kimi have a year on contract and I think that him coming is pointless. If Alonso does come next year I think that he (disappointingly) will replace Raikkonen. It will be exciting to see whether Raikkonen will stay in F1 or retire. I think that him going to Mclaren again would be brilliant because Mclaren do need a good second driver.

Thoughts on where Raikkonen will go (if he doesn't retire) and who will replace Badoer (if anyone)?If Raikkonen does indeed leave Ferrari at the end of the year it'll definitely be retirement. He has loads of other interests and since winning the Championship he's never tried as hard, he's achieved that and is happy at that. He's still an excellent driver however it's clear he doesn't "want" the victories as much anymore, he doesn't care to take risks or even looks bothered if he retires from a grand prix.

Good question about Badoer, I've really no idea who will replace him.

[Rock]

If Raikkonen does indeed leave Ferrari at the end of the year it'll definitely be retirement. He has loads of other interests and since winning the Championship he's never tried as hard, he's achieved that and is happy at that. He's still an excellent driver however it's clear he doesn't "want" the victories as much anymore, he doesn't care to take risks or even looks bothered if he retires from a grand prix.

Good question about Badoer, I've really no idea who will replace him.

Yeah F1 is just not his style anymore which is a shame.

I would be happy even if Bourdais replaces Badoer as long as he can challenge for 6-8 place. :rolleyes:

[Jam]

Alonso will go to Ferrari, Kimi to WRC, Kova driveless and Rosberg to McLaren. Rubens might go to Williams but I hope not, I like RB & JB @ Brawn. But if he does, I can see Kubica going to Brawn. Although Toyota dropping Trulli for next season, strange IMO.

[Rock]

Alonso will go to Ferrari, Kimi to WRC, Kova driveless and Rosberg to McLaren. Rubens might go to Williams but I hope not, I like RB & JB @ Brawn. But if he does, I can see Kubica going to Brawn. Although Toyota dropping Trulli for next season, strange IMO.

Raikkonen going the WRC is a terrible joke. I don't think hes going to give up his rank as second most paid sportsman to go to a dreadful Rally team. If he does leave F1 he will retire.

I don't think Barrichello will go to Williams but I think Kubica might.

I reckon the Trulli thing is just motiviation.

If Raikkonen does stay in F1 Mclaren anyone?

[Jam]

He won't go to McLaren, Rosberg will go there, I bet my life on it.

[StefanWolves]

Button to McLaren! British dream team, Hamilton and Button! but it'll never happen. :P

[Jordy]

He won't go to McLaren, Rosberg will go there, I bet my life on it.I hope you're wrong because I think Rosberg is exactly like Kovalainen.

Hamilton, Kovalainen, Kubica and Rosberg all entered F1 together cause together they rose through the ranks and were expected to take Formula 1 by storm with their "young generation". Hamilton clearly proved himself, judging from last year, Kubica is pretty good (Although people on here seem to write him off quickly).

Rosberg and Kovalainen just don't seem to be all that good. Rosberg is in the crappy Williams but he still doesn't seem anything amazing. I always thought Kovalainen would be good once he came to McLaren but it isn't the case.

I'd like to see Sutil go to a decent team, such a quality and interesting driver.

[Jam]

I'd like to see Sutil go to a decent team, such a quality and interesting driver.

Yeah, after he qualified in, what was it, 12th? Especially in such an awful car, and infront of alot of good cars.

I think Toyota would suit him, with Trulli going, its a perfect team for him.

[Rock]

Yeah, after he qualified in, what was it, 12th? Especially in such an awful car, and infront of alot of good cars.

I think Toyota would suit him, with Trulli going, its a perfect team for him.

Sutil wasn't in an awful car! That Force India was brilliant because of the major upgrades. He still did better than Fisichella so hats out to him.

I still think the best replacement for Heikki is Kubica.

[CJW93]

Renault to use Kers at Monza. Classic F1 is up on the red button I think

[CJW93]

Hamilton quickest in Practice 2. Horay!

[CJW93]

2010 Formula One provisional calendar:

March 14 – Bahrain (Sakhir)
March 28 – Australia (Melbourne)
April 4 – Malaysia (Sepang)
April 25 – Turkey (Istanbul)
May 9 – Spain (Barcelona)
May 23 – Monaco (Monte Carlo)
June 6 – Canada (Montreal)
June 27 – Europe (Valencia)
July 11 – Great Britain (Donington)
July 25 – Germany (Hockenheim)
August 1 – Hungary (Budapest)
August 22 – Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps)
September 5 – Italy (Monza)
September 19 – China (Shanghai)
September 26 – Singapore (Singapore)
October 10 – Japan (Suzuka)
October 24 – Brazil (Interlagos)
November 7 – Abu Dhabi (Yas Marina)

A total of 18 races appear on the provisional 2010 Formula One calendar, according to a list obtained by ESPN Racing-Live. The season should begin on March 14th and conclude on November 7th.

Australia has lost its traditional season-opening status in favour of Bahrain. It had been reported that daylight savings time in Melbourne, coupled with a 'twilight' race scenario, made it more convenient to schedule the first race at the Sakhir track.

The Canadian Grand Prix reappears on the calendar after a one-year hiatus, although official confirmation regarding a new contract has yet to be announced.

The British GP is listed as taking place in Donington, however there remain doubts concerning the venue's ability to secure financing. The Silverstone circuit is a possible back-up plan.

The Hockenheim circuit is planning to host the German round, but no agreement has yet been reached with respect to Formula One Management's asking price.

Until all details are worked out and all venues confirmed, the calendar indicated below remains provisional until the final list is established sometime during the next several weeks.

[Rock]

Pretty much same. Good that Montreal is back.

Still, cant forget silly season with the driver changes :D.

Good job Kimi on 3rd place practice.

[Rock]

This video for just how dramatic and brilliant Spa is. Battle between Raikkonen and Hamilton is just brilliant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSj5IwJgrw&feature=related

Greatest circuit in the world.

[CJW93]

A favourite of mine. Have to do a Gp weekend in a few years there. In practice the commentators were saying how easy it is to get to.

[Rock]

Yeah I heard that. Weather seems quite good for the weekend (but you can never be sure!).

[Jordy]

I agree, we've gone from the worst track last weekend to the best track this weekend.

Goodness knows what Button is playing at, seems like a perfectly good chance to get a lead on the Red Bulls but instead he ends up in 13th? Barrichello will presumably shorten his lead this weekend once again.

McLaren's just don't seem up to this circuit sadly and a surprise pole from Fichichella, there's rumours he might take over from Badoer in the next race though.

[Jam]

I think if Sutil got in the Q3 shootout he would have done well, he only missed out by a tenth of a second.

I think Kimi will win this though, and Fisi & Rubens on the podium.

[CJW93]

Pleased for force India. Mclaren isn't looking all that :(

[Black_Apalachi]

How annoying was Alonso's pit just then :l

[Jam]

And now he's out. Oh well, RBR only got a few points, not too bad for Brawn.

EDIT: Didn't see Vettel in 3rd :/

[Rock]

YEAHHHH! What a victory Kimi! Well done! Well done!

Also Fisi was fantastic. Hope he does join Ferrari!

[CJW93]

Was a pretty boring race. Pleased for Kimi and fisi though

[Rock]

Can't compare to last years race but yet again Kimi fails not to win at Spa when he finishes the race which is brilliant. I do hope Badoer will be replaced.

[Kardan]

How annoying was Alonso's pit just then :l

Not as annoying as Hamilton and Button crashing at Turn 5 :(

Luckily, Hamilton can still win the Championship since Button crashed aswell :D Although it'd be near impossible for him to win it :(

[Jordy]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78195

Should be quite interesting, I'm surprised this wasn't raised before but it's surely friend/family of Piquet who leaked it?

[CJW93]

Piquet spitting his dummy out again

[Jordy]

Piquet spitting his dummy out againSeems so yeah, he said himself it's Flavio he's angry with not the team. Claiming something like this puts shame on the whole team and he's not doing much for his future either, no one wants to employ a driver who can't accept where he goes wrong, blames the team unnecessarily and is a gob *****.

[Black_Apalachi]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78195

Should be quite interesting, I'm surprised this wasn't raised before but it's surely friend/family of Piquet who leaked it?

Woah, interesting. If I drove for a team who was willing to practice such foul play as well as put me in danger by asking me to deliberately crash (even if I had the balls to do that), I wouldn't be very happy.

[Rock]

It doesn't help Renault with the whole world knowing that Flavio is a one driver in favour of the other man.

Hopefully with Alonso to Ferrari the Renault number 2 seat won't be so doomed.

[CJW93]

Giancarlo Fisichella will race for Ferrari at the remaining five rounds of 2009 after Force India agreed to release him from his contract on Thursday. Fisichella will replace Ferrari test driver Luca Badoer as stand-in for the injured Felipe Massa, starting at next weekend’s Italian Grand Prix, before taking on the team's reserve driver role for 2010.

Force India have yet to confirm who will take over from Fisichella, though third driver Vitantonio Liuzzi is already being tipped for the seat...

[StefanWolves]

Good move for Ferrari, Badoer was terrible (or however you spell his name.)

[-Heart]

Giancarlo Fisichella will race for Ferrari at the remaining five rounds of 2009 after Force India agreed to release him from his contract on Thursday. Fisichella will replace Ferrari test driver Luca Badoer as stand-in for the injured Felipe Massa, starting at next weekend’s Italian Grand Prix, before taking on the team's reserve driver role for 2010.

Force India have yet to confirm who will take over from Fisichella, though third driver Vitantonio Liuzzi is already being tipped for the seat...
An interesting move by Ferrari to take Fisichella on, not entirely sure whether it's the smartest way to go but only time will tell. He did do well in Spa, though.

[Rock]

If Fisi can perform with similar pace as he did in Spa Ferrari for 3rd. Though it will be hard with stupid Ferrari halting all work this season. I don't think the car will be so super to fight for podium in next few races, but Kimi has done so well which is a shame.

Still don't think he can be written off on winning the championship..

Ambitious.. :P

[CJW93]

Fisichella crashed might not make qualifying

[Catzsy]

Fisichella crashed might not make qualifying

That is news. I hope there isn't starting to be a Ferrari curse! Looking forward to the qualifying.

[CJW93]

Anybody else catch practice?

[StefanWolves]

i just missed it :( work :(

[Jordy]

Was some good qualifying, both Force Indias in Q3 :)

It really does show it wasn't a fluke last time for Force India. Raikonnen has done well again, both McLaren's have done well and the Brawn's seem content with their positions as they're behind the KERS cars. Red Bull though, yet another poor qualifying session.

I suspect this might be yet another meaningless race though in terms of points seeing as I don't think it will involve much action between the top four drivers contesting it. It's almost like the points leaderboard was frozen about 4 or 5 races back.

I've also repeatedly said on here that if Sutil was in a decent car he'd be incredibly good, so naturally I'm feeling smug.

[CJW93]

Becuase of fuel loads Hamilton wont win :( I think Brawns are in with a chance along with Heiki :)

[xxMATTGxx]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/9/13/1252842326350/Formula-One-Italian-Grand-001.jpg


F1 Breaking News: Renault confirms Flavio Briatore and Pat Symonds have left the team. Will "not dispute" allegations of race-fixing



Flavio Briatore has left his position as boss of the Renault team after they decided not to contest charges of fixing the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.
Executive director of engineering Pat Symonds has also left the team.

Renault were summoned by governing body, the FIA, after Nelson Piquet Jr claimed he had been asked to crash to help team-mate Fernando Alonso's race.
An FIA spokesperson confirmed a World Motor Sport Council hearing in Paris on Monday would go ahead.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8258987.stm

Singapore transcript reveals Flavio Briatore's anger at Nelson Piquet

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/sep/15/flavio-briatore-renault-singapore-nelson-piquet-transcript

[CJW93]

F1 has more drama than an episode of the hills

[StefanWolves]

never liked briatore, he's always been a bit arrogant, looks like they were cheating in the end, eh?

[Jordy]

Really is a shame, I can't help but feel it makes Hamilton championship a bit illegitimate seeing as Massa was severely held up because of the Safety Car, he could of presumably won points otherwise and won the world championship. I know Hamilton's championship won't be revoked but I wouldn't be surprised if it was looked down upon much like Schumacher's 1994 championship because of his deliberate crash.

(Expects flaming from Hamilton fans despite being one)

Quite a lot of other news in F1 too, Lotus have been confirmed to join F1 next season, backed by Petronas and the Malaysian government. They're taking the final team space meaning there's no spaces left.

Hours later BMW was bought by some middle eastern investment group (Owners of Notts County FC) however there's no room for them to enter F1 next season so the FIA are trying to allow an extra space for them.

Severe doubt over Renault & Toyota next season too.

[StefanWolves]

Really is a shame, I can't help but feel it makes Hamilton championship a bit illegitimate seeing as Massa was severely held up because of the Safety Car, he could of presumably won points otherwise and won the world championship. I know Hamilton's championship won't be revoked but I wouldn't be surprised if it was looked down upon much like Schumacher's 1994 championship because of his deliberate crash.

(Expects flaming from Hamilton fans despite being one)

Quite a lot of other news in F1 too, Lotus have been confirmed to join F1 next season, backed by Petronas and the Malaysian government. They're taking the final team space meaning there's no spaces left.

Hours later BMW was bought by some middle eastern investment group (Owners of Notts County FC) however there's no room for them to enter F1 next season so the FIA are trying to allow an extra space for them.

Severe doubt over Renault & Toyota next season too.

True, but whats happened as happened, Hamiltons title with stay with Hamilton, it's going nowhere.

Lotus in F1 should be good, good name to have in he competition, love their road cars! :P (Little off topic, but has anyone seen the latest McLaren road car? awesome! absolutely beautiful! they're releasing a new one every year from now on for the next five years!) ~ I can see Renault pulling out also, BMW will somehow get in, to big of a name not to get in IMO.

It's gonna be all change next season! will be interesting, new tracks, new drivers, different drivers in different cars, new car manufacturers involved, along with the Brawns and Red Bulls competing, and I expect Ferrari and McLaren to be at their best next season, not to mention no refuelling next season.

Gonna be interesting.

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F1 BATRACER WORLD ELITE CHAMPIONSHIP

http://www.finalscoreforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20998

Please read that thread, and PLEASE join :).

Only need a few more people before we start. Alot of fun!

[CJW93]

No thanks, bad day for the sport. just think though, if the Singapore result gets changed and everyone is bumped up a place it would mean that Rosberg would have won his first race. Hamilton would have won the championship by one extra point, and it would of been David couthards Final F1 podium

[Jam]

No thanks, bad day for the sport. just think though, if the Singapore result gets changed and everyone is bumped up a place it would mean that Rosberg would have won his first race. Hamilton would have won the championship by one extra point, and it would of been David couthards Final F1 podium

Max has said that no results will be changed, but that outcome would be much better.

[CJW93]

Hamilton looking on course for maximum points. Love to see another McLaren win :)

[StefanWolves]

How sexy does that mclaren f1 car look in the dark, with sparks flying behind it... oh, semi, stay down!! :(. - Joking, but it is very sexy.

[Immenseman]

good race from hamilton and button, well button has been lucky throughout.

[StefanWolves]

button is a very lucky boy, fair play to hamilton.

now it's time to switch back over to the cricket, been flicking between the two like mad for the past 2 hours. lmao.

[Immenseman]

good performance by glock too

[StefanWolves]

good performance by glock too

yeh but he's german so who cares. :P

[Jordy]

Boringggg grand prix, worse than Valencia dare I say. Damn these crappy street circuits (Excluding Monaco obviously).

Good race by Hamilton but Button was nothing but lucky. He won all his grand prix's through good strategies not particularly good driving and the only reason he's still winning the championship is because Barrichello and the Red Bull's messed up too. He's not an amazing driver, he's just with a good team and incredibly lucky due to the inconsistency of everybody else. He's not championship winning material at all.

[xxMATTGxx]

Good race by Lewis indeed! Glad he’s won another one after his incident on the last race. Well done to him and the McLaren team. Buttons seems to been having problems for a few races to be honest, he just can't get back where he used to be.

[Immenseman]

agreed jordy. i'm not a huge fan of f1, i do what you hate (i think) and just want to see hamilton and button do well. i'd like to see button win the championship because he seems a nice guy but if their had been more consistency from the other drivers he wouldn't have stood a chance.

[Kardan]

Yay Hamilton :D But to be fair, there wasn't much skill involved. The only thing about Singapore is that it's at night, otherwise - there was pratically NO overtaking, I think Rosberg did a bit at the back, but everything else was due to overtaking during pitstops. :$

I'm really torn between Button and Barrichello for the Championship now. Button can win it in a weeks time, but this is Barrichello's last chance :( Pah, as long as it's Hamilton for 2010 ;)

[Orangeesh]

agreed jordy. i'm not a huge fan of f1, i do what you hate (i think) and just want to see hamilton and button do well. i'd like to see button win the championship because he seems a nice guy but if their had been more consistency from the other drivers he wouldn't have stood a chance.

button will fail hopefully

barrichello ftw he deserves it after the days of schumacher owning him constantly

[Immenseman]

no button ftw :D

anyway, as expected alonso will drive for ferrari

[StefanWolves]

button will fail hopefully

barrichello ftw he deserves it after the days of schumacher owning him constantly

Button won't fail, you forget button has been driving for a long time too, and has had NO luck. He's also had so much pressure from the English media, (as all English sportspeople do) - but him especially.


no button ftw :D

anyway, as expected alonso will drive for ferrari

Couldn't care, hate them both.

[Immenseman]

haha same, just confirmed today though.

[Jam]

I really don't see why Barrichello would get replaced by Rosberg, he's second in the WDC and has picked up more points than Button when other teams have had their cars running well. I hope he wins the title for the fact that he deserves it and they can stop thinking about getting Rosberg in.

[CJW93]

Viva Fernando ;)

[Rock]

Lol Alonso confirmed at Ferrari. Just hope Kimi will carry on. I really really hope he goes to McLaren.

[Kardan]

That was the craziest qualifying session EVER.

Three red flags (Due to Alguersuari, Glock and Kovalainen) two drivers gone to hospital (Glock and Alguersuari), four cars wrecked (Alguersuari, Glock, Kovalainen and Buemi).

And a massive 7 grid penalties (Button, Barrichello, Alonso and Sutil for speeding in yellow flag zone; Kovalainen and Liuzzi for changing gearboxes and Buemi for driving a damaged car and impeding drivers).

So Vettel 1st, Barrichello 10th and Button 12th.

If it ends like that it will be Button: 84, Vettel: 69, Barrichello: 69 with two races left.

Looks like tomorrow is going to be EPIC!

And well done Hamilton on 3rd :D :D

Looks very unlikely that Button will win the championship tomorrow, but a safety car or red flag - which seems to be very likely by what we've seen today, could change everything.

[The Professor]

Everyone has been naughty and everyone got a penalty and they all deserved smacked bottoms. I also hope Sutil or Trulli win, Sutil because he's awesome and Trulli because Toyota deserve something from this season!

[syko2006]

Welcome back to formula one, Lotus!

Button will win all together now.

[xxMATTGxx]

Japan is OVER!

Top 5

1. S Vettel
2. J Trulli
3. L Hamilton
3. K Räikkönen
5. N Rosberg

Brawn-Mercedes
7. Rubens Barrichello
8. Jenson Button

[StefanWolves]

That's it, title over, unless something disastrous happens at Brazil, then the constructor title and championship title are going to Brawn & Button.

[CJW93]

Pulling for Rubbens

[Kardan]

That's it, title over, unless something disastrous happens at Brazil, then the constructor title and championship title are going to Brawn & Button.

Looks like it, but everyone thought that in 2007, Hamilton's 17 point lead with two races left got wiped by Raikkonen, so Button's 16 point lead could easily go - but with Brawn's reliability, it looks very likely that Button will be champion.

Although, Brawn will 100% get the constructors, the chances of both Brawn's not scoring any points in the second race is slim, and even then both Red Bulls have to come 1st and 2nd in both races.

Hamilton <3

[StefanWolves]

Looks like it, but everyone thought that in 2007, Hamilton's 17 point lead with two races left got wiped by Raikkonen, so Button's 16 point lead could easily go - but with Brawn's reliability, it looks very likely that Button will be champion.

Although, Brawn will 100% get the constructors, the chances of both Brawn's not scoring any points in the second race is slim, and even then both Red Bulls have to come 1st and 2nd in both races.

Hamilton <3

ah, i love hamilton, he never gave in. even when he was getting slated, and the whole mclaren spygate scandal, it really did hurt him and the team, but he carried on, like business as usual.

button deserves it this year tho imo, he has NEVER had any luck throughout his career, so im glad hes getting it now. he's always been the 'next best thing' and bigged up by the media, now hopefully it's his time to shine.

[Kardan]

ah, i love hamilton, he never gave in. even when he was getting slated, and the whole mclaren spygate scandal, it really did hurt him and the team, but he carried on, like business as usual.

button deserves it this year tho imo, he has NEVER had any luck throughout his career, so im glad hes getting it now. he's always been the 'next best thing' and bigged up by the media, now hopefully it's his time to shine.

Button finished 3rd in the Championship in 2004, so he's not exactly been the most unluckiest driver ever :P But it would be nice to see another Brit win it :) Although Barrichello deserves it more.

[StefanWolves]

Button finished 3rd in the Championship in 2004, so he's not exactly been the most unluckiest driver ever :P But it would be nice to see another Brit win it :) Although Barrichello deserves it more.

can't argue with that tbh. ;)

i like barrichello, hes a nearly man.

[Jam]

Home GP pole & win for Rubie please, and Vettel and Button can DNF for all I care. Button's got years left, Rubie needs to win the WDC and retire happy.

[RyanDOT]

Home GP pole & win for Rubie please, and Vettel and Button can DNF for all I care. Button's got years left, Rubie needs to win the WDC and retire happy.

I agree, Rubie is getting quite old now.

[StefanWolves]

I agree, but he won't win the title, come on Button! :)

[Jordy]

With rain the race is going to be unpredictable, could be some interesting strategies with safety cars etc. Considering Sutil's fuel load and his skill in the Wet I think he'll win today (hopefully anyways :D) but it's a difficult one to call.

As for the championship, if Button scores badly today and Barrichello does well. Button will presumably do crap in Abu Dhabi seeing as he's buckled under the pressure for about the past five races I see no reason why he wouldn't do it again. And then Barrichello could quite easily get it?

If they're quite close going into the last race my money's on Barrichello but that depends on what happens today.

[xxMATTGxx]

What a start to the race. Fire, crashes, someone wanted a fight etc. Haha, fantastic to be honest. Well Done to Lewis for getting 3rd!! And a BIG Congratulations to Jenson Button who becomes the 2009 FIA Formula 1 World Champion.

[CJW93]

Danm Button :eusa_wall He drove well today. But Hamilton 3rd from 18th. Beast!