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Jord
01-08-2009, 05:54 AM
Right, Im thinking of watching somemore stuff maybe one piece subbed, Got quite a few episodes,

But I'm Looking for an anime like Gungrave, The start of it, where it shows their lifes as kids and fighting and stuff,

Might watch soul eater too.

PaulMacC
01-08-2009, 09:56 AM
Gunblade is a good anime.

Southe,
01-08-2009, 03:04 PM
Right, Im thinking of watching somemore stuff maybe one piece subbed, Got quite a few episodes,

But I'm Looking for an anime like Gungrave, The start of it, where it shows their lifes as kids and fighting and stuff,

Might watch soul eater too.

:eusa_clap Wise choice. you may want to go back and rewatch some arcs since 4kids removed them and one of them is important to the story later on.

When they enter the grandline near the begining there about to crash into a mountain was it? well that was a whale. and it has a big back story so u may want to watch that.

Jord
01-08-2009, 08:58 PM
Gunblade is a good anime.

so is samurai gun


:eusa_clap Wise choice. you may want to go back and rewatch some arcs since 4kids removed them and one of them is important to the story later on.

When they enter the grandline near the begining there about to crash into a mountain was it? well that was a whale. and it has a big back story so u may want to watch that.

shall I start from episode 1?

Southe,
01-08-2009, 09:54 PM
Honestly, Yes.
1. Its completley diffrent to what youve seen
2. You have it there uncut and the story isnt changed at all from the manga
3. Violence and Gore is there
4. Excellent voice cast
5. Awesome Soundtrack compared to the 4kids one.

Tho if you just want to watch the stuff thats important i could find the episodes.

Part of laboon bit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4ghTPWqY5s
why did they edit it out. they even kept laboon groaning. anyway. should geta crack on lol. 410 eps to watch

Jord
01-08-2009, 09:57 PM
Honestly, Yes.
1. Its completley diffrent to what youve seen
2. You have it there uncut and the story isnt changed at all from the manga
3. Violence and Gore is there
4. Excellent voice cast
5. Awesome Soundtrack compared to the 4kids one.

Tho if you just want to watch the stuff thats important i could find the episodes.


Woo :)


Got a link for episode 1 subbed? (A site with all episode pls)

Southe,
01-08-2009, 10:08 PM
Yup.
www.watch-onepiece.com (http://www.watch-onepiece.com)

Btw example. remember the ZoRo (Yes its an R in the subs) vs mihawk this is what you missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7btIjElQDI
2:48 was cut i believe

Jord
01-08-2009, 10:20 PM
Yeh it was cut,

So Ill start watching it later on tonight :)

After bleach :) ty for link

Southe,
01-08-2009, 11:01 PM
Good. hopefully other people try it aswell >.>

Nemo
01-08-2009, 11:18 PM
Good. hopefully other people try it aswell >.>
'fraid not bro, too many eps.

Jord
02-08-2009, 12:17 AM
Im just skipping to episode 112 lol cbb to watch all them again :P

Southe,
02-08-2009, 12:27 AM
i dont see why people get put off with the ep count.
You dont have to wait a week for the next ep you have plenty to watch lol.

IMO everyone should watch the movies that way its skipped the boring bit at the start that puts people off and the crews already formed so gets to the jokes and fights etc.

Cos im nice. Tbh i should make people watch the films before the series. Movie 3-7 are HD.

Movie 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak2U_1Yt8XE
Movie 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZSVc6yEZrI
Movie 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9fTQaPhp3o
Movie 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-675QIdG3c
Movie 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AngWZfTkRXI
Movie 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bdM15wZ0M


Im just skipping to episode 112 lol cbb to watch all them again :P
Ep 62 - 63 you'll HAVE to watch them or your going to be confused later on.
The rest dosent really matter.

Currently watching OP 411 live ^^ Kai just finished. when ever OP comes on gets all laggy lol

Jord
02-08-2009, 12:38 AM
i dont see why people get put off with the ep count.
You dont have to wait a week for the next ep you have plenty to watch lol.

IMO everyone should watch the movies that way its skipped the boring bit at the start that puts people off and the crews already formed so gets to the jokes and fights etc.

Cos im nice. Tbh i should make people watch the films before the series. Movie 3-7 are HD.

Movie 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak2U_1Yt8XE
Movie 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZSVc6yEZrI
Movie 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9fTQaPhp3o
Movie 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-675QIdG3c
Movie 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AngWZfTkRXI
Movie 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bdM15wZ0M


Ep 62 - 63 you'll HAVE to watch them or your going to be confused later on.
The rest dosent really matter.

Currently watching OP 411 live ^^ Kai just finished. when ever OP comes on gets all laggy lol


Okie, then after ill skip to 112 the current episode I was already on, Its where they get into the sky with there new crew member, forgot her name

Southe,
02-08-2009, 12:41 AM
Robin, its in my sig lol. and episode numbers are diffrent 112 is still arabasta. 4kids was 112 because they cut episodes etc so you'l have to guess by the ep titles.

Jord
02-08-2009, 02:18 AM
4kids stopped at 111, Fumation done 112+

I see there's 2 new people :)

Brook looks cool ^.^

uje
10-08-2009, 11:47 PM
Some great animes that I have watched lately are K-On! And Gurren Lagann, I have also taken a liking in watching D.Grey Man :) Three great animes which if you have not seen you should check them out :) There is also another anime that has grown on me in the past, its called Keroro Gunso (Sgt. Frog) It is brilliant and funny, but the manga is better as its aimed for an older audience, but its still a great anime!

Jord
11-08-2009, 12:07 AM
Some great animes that I have watched lately are K-On! And Gurren Lagann, I have also taken a liking in watching D.Grey Man :) Three great animes which if you have not seen you should check them out :) There is also another anime that has grown on me in the past, its called Keroro Gunso (Sgt. Frog) It is brilliant and funny, but the manga is better as its aimed for an older audience, but its still a great anime!


Seen Gurren lagann and still watching Dgrey man

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 12:34 AM
K-ON! is not great. :'(

Nemo
11-08-2009, 01:05 AM
I fought it was d.gray-man.

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 01:07 AM
I fought it was d.gray-man.

I thought it was thought?

Nemo
11-08-2009, 01:09 AM
I thought it was thought?
I was being ironic.

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 01:11 AM
So was I.

Nemo
11-08-2009, 01:17 AM
So was I.
I see. Well, that's interesting.


I recommend people watch code geass tyvm.

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 01:26 AM
I recommend people watch Welcome to the NHK to discover the part of life they're missing out on.

Nemo
11-08-2009, 01:31 AM
I recommend people watch Welcome to the NHK to discover the part of life they're missing out on.
ah yeh forgot to watch that like totally, thats on my line up for after eureka 7.

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 01:48 AM
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee121/slytherinbitxch/JUST_AS_PLANNED.jpg

Southe,
11-08-2009, 02:28 PM
NHK season set coming out this month :D buying for my bday

uje
11-08-2009, 06:30 PM
Whoops, sorry for my incorrect spelling of D.Gray-man, :s Didn't think it would matter in a thread like this. Oh well, ill take more care next time!

I thought K-On was a great short series which really had some great comical moments in it, If you are looking for a great storyline with action and romance then no, don’t watch K-On, but if you just want a nice easygoing anime to watch which will have some great comical moments in then yeah give K-On a TRY.

I have been meaning to watch Welcome to the N.H.K for ages but always pushed it aside :P The storyline does look great though and I will defiantly attempt to check it out.

Another great anime I would recommend seeing is Serial Experiments Lain.

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 06:41 PM
I don't know what it is about K-ON! but I just hate it. Maybe because I've been exposed the some actual good music anime like Nodame Cantabile and Beck. K-ON! is a music anime in disguise. It's really just an anime where a couple of girls act dumb and make the audience feel like morons. Mio is alright though, I'd watch it if it centered around her only. This is entirely my opinion though, if you like it fair enough. :P

Have you ever seen Lucky Star? It's exactly like K-ON! but without the music, and well... it's good. Really good. The description you gave K-ON! actually fits Lucky Star perfectly. "A nice easy going anime with some great comical moments."

uje
11-08-2009, 06:58 PM
I don't know what it is about K-ON! but I just hate it. Maybe because I've been exposed the some actual good music anime like Nodame Cantabile and Beck. K-ON! is a music anime in disguise. It's really just an anime where a couple of girls act dumb and make the audience feel like morons. Mio is alright though, I'd watch it if it centered around her only. This is entirely my opinion though, if you like it fair enough. :P

Have you ever seen Lucky Star? It's exactly like K-ON! but without the music, and well... it's good. Really good. The description you gave K-ON! actually fits Lucky Star perfectly. "A nice easy going anime with some great comical moments."

:P That’s why I loved K-ON! It was the fact it was about these girls who just did nothing but sit around and drink tea all day yet they were trying to make it in a band, I mean yeah if it was a huge series it would get boring after around 20 episodes of the same thing, but it was short and fresh and the little differences were the things that made me laugh. I don't think it was made to be a serious music anime so when I watched it I really didn’t really care of the musical side of it I just enjoyed the storyline that was these girls who want to make it to a big time show and all they do is the opposite of practise :D

Surprisingly enough I have not seen Lucky Star, I think K-ON! was the first anime of that sort of style that I watched and I really enjoyed it so I will be sure to check out Lucky Star! :P Who knows, when I watch Lucky Star and then think back to K-ON! I might have a totally different perspective of it.

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 07:06 PM
Well Lucky Star is made by the same studio that made K-ON! and it's pretty much also about four girls who do nothing and chat about strange things. I found it oddly appealing. I like the style as well, and how can you say no to the opening.

Azumanga Daioh is also another series that is constantly compared to Lucky Star. It's pretty much the same thing but with different characters and animation. I still haven't finished it but it's pretty funny.

School Days is another great easy going anime with a lot of comical moments. This one actually has a plot though.

uje
11-08-2009, 07:21 PM
Well Lucky Star is made by the same studio that made K-ON! and it's pretty much also about four girls who do nothing and chat about strange things. I found it oddly appealing. I like the style as well, and how can you say no to the opening.

Azumanga Daioh is also another series that is constantly compared to Lucky Star. It's pretty much the same thing but with different characters and animation. I still haven't finished it but it's pretty funny.

School Days is another great easy going anime with a lot of comical moments. This one actually has a plot though.

It was the opening that in fact turned me away from Lucky Star to begin with, I don't know why it just seemed a bit off-putting :P But with K-ON! I thought the opening was great!

Jord
11-08-2009, 07:26 PM
I've been watching Rave master

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 07:46 PM
It was the opening that in fact turned me away from Lucky Star to begin with, I don't know why it just seemed a bit off-putting :P But with K-ON! I thought the opening was great!

You're the first person I've come across that doesn't like the opening to Lucky Star. Believe me though, by the end of the series you will love it. I didn't like it that much at the beginning either, but it grew on me as the series went on and I just couldn't look away. I had to watch it!

How about if the opening was like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FShotq4rYcg). Would you like it then? :P

Mentor
11-08-2009, 08:52 PM
Not sure if its relevent but i rewatched trigun not long ago and its got a pretty epic ending and backstory once it gets going. If your looking for something to watch and havnt seen it, i'd def recommened giving it a go. First few episolds are pretty basic, but once i gets chugging its great :)

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 09:28 PM
Not sure if its relevent but i rewatched trigun not long ago and its got a pretty epic ending and backstory once it gets going. If your looking for something to watch and havnt seen it, i'd def recommened giving it a go. First few episolds are pretty basic, but once i gets chugging its great :)

I second this. Vash has one of the most interesting backstories ever in my opinion. Trigun is fantastic, and the last few episodes are absolutely brilliant. Not to mention the series also has the best villain ever - Legato Bluesummers! And also one of the best supporting characters ever - Nicholas D. Wolfwood! I think I'll rewatch Trigun next.

Nemo
11-08-2009, 10:17 PM
I second this. Vash has one of the most interesting backstories ever in my opinion. Trigun is fantastic, and the last few episodes are absolutely brilliant. Not to mention the series also has the best villain ever - Legato Bluesummers! And also one of the best supporting characters ever - Nicholas D. Wolfwood! I think I'll rewatch Trigun next.
Have you seen code geass?

Jord
11-08-2009, 10:48 PM
Not sure if its relevent but i rewatched trigun not long ago and its got a pretty epic ending and backstory once it gets going. If your looking for something to watch and havnt seen it, i'd def recommened giving it a go. First few episolds are pretty basic, but once i gets chugging its great :)


I've watch trigun :) I loved it

Southe,
11-08-2009, 11:09 PM
K need another series to watch when i finish black lagoon, tho i want one that isnt on dvd. because that way i'll download them and put them on my external when i get it.

Nemo
11-08-2009, 11:15 PM
K need another series to watch when i finish black lagoon, tho i want one that isnt on dvd. because that way i'll download them and put them on my external when i get it.
Code geass????????!!??!

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 11:30 PM
Have you seen code geass?

Got to the 12th episode before I was on the verge of killing myself. Worst anime I've ever seen. And no, I have absolutely no interest in watching the rest.

Nemo
11-08-2009, 11:35 PM
Got to the 12th episode before I was on the verge of killing myself. Worst anime I've ever seen. And no, I have absolutely no interest in watching the rest.
First FMA, now CG, god you're mad.

Neversoft
11-08-2009, 11:44 PM
First FMA, now CG, god you're mad.

I said I hated Code Geass ages ago. They're both mediocre.

Axel
12-08-2009, 12:10 AM
FMA? Mediocre?!

Jord
12-08-2009, 12:34 AM
K need another series to watch when i finish black lagoon, tho i want one that isnt on dvd. because that way i'll download them and put them on my external when i get it.


Black lagoon good?

Neversoft
12-08-2009, 10:00 AM
FMA? Mediocre?!

Yes. I felt that it was trying way too hard to make you feel sorry for characters you really couldn't care less about, and why the hell are they traveling around helping everyone out. Is this Pokemon? Are they good samaritans? I don't care about this person, get on with the story. It forces these short stories upon you, presents you with some sad sob story and pathetic characters but resolves it with a "and they live happily ever after". It's stupid. The short jokes get really redundant after a while as well. It's way too overly melodramatic for my liking, and the characters have no real development. Sorry, but I think it's mediocre (my opinion).


Black lagoon good?

If you like non-stop pointless action - yes.

Nemo
12-08-2009, 10:35 AM
Yes. I felt that it was trying way too hard to make you feel sorry for characters you really couldn't care less about, and why the hell are they traveling around helping everyone out. Is this Pokemon? Are they good samaritans? I don't care about this person, get on with the story. It forces these short stories upon you, presents you with some sad sob story and pathetic characters but resolves it with a "and they live happily ever after". It's stupid. The short jokes get really redundant after a while as well. It's way too overly melodramatic for my liking, and the characters have no real development. Sorry, but I think it's mediocre (my opinion).



If you like non-stop pointless action - yes.
Wow chris, i thought you all of people wouldn't completely judge an anime without watching it all. Perhaps theres character development later on in the story? Perhaps when it gets to the real story it gets mega-awesome?

Watch it all. If you say you don't like it then fair enough.

Neversoft
12-08-2009, 11:53 AM
Wow chris, i thought you all of people wouldn't completely judge an anime without watching it all. Perhaps theres character development later on in the story? Perhaps when it gets to the real story it gets mega-awesome?

Watch it all. If you say you don't like it then fair enough.

An anime is not suppost to start off crap and get better later on, it should catch your attention right from the start. That's what its main objective should be, so I have no problem saying what I think about a series even when I haven't seen it in its entirety. If I don't like what I'm seeing I'm going to say I don't like it. I'm also a person that, if a series starts off crap but gets really good later on or vice versa, I wouldn't forgive it and would still consider it mediocre. Hence why I consider Soul Eater crap even though I loved the first half - because the last half sucks. So even if I do decide to watch the rest of FMA, I would have nothing to look forward to because I wouldn't forgive the first part of the series. A good anime should be consistant throughout. If it doesn't have that, then it's not good in my opinion. You like the series, theres wrong with that, but I don't like the series and have no interest in watching the rest so please stop telling me to watch it. :P

Nemo
12-08-2009, 12:00 PM
An anime is not suppost to start off crap and get better later on, it should catch your attention right from the start. That's what its main objective should be, so I have no problem saying what I think about a series even when I haven't seen it in its entirety. If I don't like what I'm seeing I'm going to say I don't like it. I'm also a person that, if a series starts off crap but gets really good later on or vice versa, I wouldn't forgive it and would still consider it mediocre. Hence why I consider Soul Eater crap even though I loved the first half - because the last half sucks. So even if I do decide to watch the rest of FMA, I would have nothing to look forward to because I wouldn't forgive the first part of the series. A good anime should be consistant throughout. If it doesn't have that, then it's not good in my opinion. You like the series, theres wrong with that, but I don't like the series and have no interest in watching the rest so please stop telling me to watch it. :PWhatever, you're missing out!

Southe,
12-08-2009, 01:06 PM
FMA? Mediocre?!

:O i liked FMA, wouldn't say it was mediocre must be popular for a reason.


Black lagoon good?

IMO im enjoying it. ( Has the VA for sanji ) but not just for that its quite good its only 24 eps long ( 2 seasons ) so yea for what it is its quite good.



An anime is not suppost to start off crap and get better later on, it should catch your attention right from the start. That's what its main objective should be, so I have no problem saying what I think about a series even when I haven't seen it in its entirety. If I don't like what I'm seeing I'm going to say I don't like it. I'm also a person that, if a series starts off crap but gets really good later on or vice versa, I wouldn't forgive it and would still consider it mediocre. Hence why I consider Soul Eater crap even though I loved the first half - because the last half sucks. So even if I do decide to watch the rest of FMA, I would have nothing to look forward to because I wouldn't forgive the first part of the series. A good anime should be consistant throughout. If it doesn't have that, then it's not good in my opinion. You like the series, theres wrong with that, but I don't like the series and have no interest in watching the rest so please stop telling me to watch it. :P

OP was boring at the begining and then gradually got better then awesome. and now when i look back i think the boring bit was awesome.

Your just to negative D: i agree that series shouldnt start of boring. but if it makes up for it later on shouldnt get classed as mediocre. And FMA is good so shush, lol.


Whatever, you're missing out!

Indeed he is.

should finish Black lagoon tommorow. then ill start on something else

Neversoft
12-08-2009, 02:11 PM
Whatever, you're missing out!

I knew you would say that. :P But I don't think so. As I said, it doesn't interest me. If I force myself to watch it I'll only end up hating it more.


OP was boring at the begining and then gradually got better then awesome. and now when i look back i think the boring bit was awesome.

Your just to negative D: i agree that series shouldnt start of boring. but if it makes up for it later on shouldnt get classed as mediocre. And FMA is good so shush, lol.

If it was boring I'm sure you wouldn't have continued watching it. There are a fair few series that start off good but get a lot better as they progress. Trigun and Utawarerumono for example. The first episodes are good, but the last episodes are ten times better. I'm sure that's what One Piece is like, right? I'm sure Full Metal Alchemist does pick up later on, but the first episodes were nothing less than rubbish in my opinion and they showed no sign of ending any time soon when I dropped it so it doesn't matter if it does. I know I won't like it as an overall piece.

Well from my point of view I don't think a series can make up for the bad parts. Claymore almost does it, but the ending is undoubtedly crap, which brings the overall rating of the series down. Same with Soul Eater. If a series has a bad part, it isn't going to go away. A series can't make up for itself in my opinion.

Negative? That's a first. :P I'm think I'm more neutral, neither negative nor positive. There are a few series that I know deep down are unbelievably mediocre yet I love them. Da Capo being the main example. But I do dislike a lot of popular series as well... Full Metal Alchemist, Clannad, Soul Eater, Code Geass, Kenshin, Kara no Kyoukai, etc.

Mentor
12-08-2009, 10:01 PM
Code geasis is great if you watch it through, it's incrediblly well thought out how it all ties together in the end in a masisve set of twists :)
Guess it aint for everyone though.

Neversoft
12-08-2009, 10:30 PM
I've seen people saying that Code Geass R2's story is terrible? Death Note is a well thought out series. :8

Nemo
12-08-2009, 11:01 PM
I've seen people saying that Code Geass R2's story is terrible? Death Note is a well thought out series. :8
Oh i forgot to mention 2 of the anime u mentioned are my top 2

1) FMA
2) Code Geass


And r2 has one the best stories ever. Its just so damn awesome. Perhaps the art isnt for everyone.

Neversoft
13-08-2009, 12:02 AM
Oh i forgot to mention 2 of the anime u mentioned are my top 2

1) FMA
2) Code Geass


And r2 has one the best stories ever. Its just so damn awesome. Perhaps the art isnt for everyone.

And you are implying...?

One of the best stories ever? Is it as indepth as Neon Genesis Evangelion? Is it as tension building as Death Note? Is it as epic as Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann? Is it as well put together as Baccano? Is it as involved as Utawarerumono? Is it as interesting as Mushishi? Is it as intriguing as Ghost in the Shell? Is it as emotional as The Girl Who Leapt Through Time? Is it as beautiful as Millennium Actress? Is it as well developed as Trigun? Is it as exciting as Welcome to the NHK? Is it as well balanced as Samurai Champloo? Is it as perfect as Cowboy Bebop? I doubt it.

Jord
13-08-2009, 12:03 AM
I prefered code geass to code geass R2

Neversoft
13-08-2009, 12:05 AM
I prefered code geass to code geass R2

That's what I've seen the majority on MyAnimeList say as well. I've also seen a handful of people with the first series rated 10, but R2 rated 3 or 4. How can it mess up so badly?

Nemo
13-08-2009, 12:14 AM
And you are implying...?

One of the best stories ever? Is it as indepth as Neon Genesis Evangelion? Is it as tension building as Death Note? Is it as epic as Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann? Is it as well put together as Baccano? Is it as involved as Utawarerumono? Is it as interesting as Mushishi? Is it as intriguing as Ghost in the Shell? Is it as emotional as The Girl Who Leapt Through Time? Is it as beautiful as Millennium Actress? Is it as well developed as Trigun? Is it as exciting as Welcome to the NHK? Is it as well balanced as Samurai Champloo? Is it as perfect as Cowboy Bebop? I doubt it.
Well one of the best animes ive seen, perhaps not stories as it were :P.

Indepth as NGE, you could consider it that, perhaps not so much, but tbh NGE is more indepth than other anime anyway.
As tension building as DN.... yes, more even.
Epic as TTGL, why, nothing is more epic than TTGL, but it comes close.
It ais as well put together as Baccano.
It is as involved as Utawarerumono.
It is interesting, havent seen mushishi
Perhaps intriguing as ghost in the shell, havent seen it tho.
The ending can be considered emotional!
The art is beautiful, perhaps not to everyones taste though.
It is as well developed as trigun.
It is more exciting than welcome to the NHK, and i havent even seen it.
Well balanced? wut? are you trying to make up stuff so that i type more?
It isn't perfect. None of those anime you mentioned are otherwise you would have used the same anime for each of those qualities.

However CG isnt meant to have EVERYTHING in it, coz then it'd be silly. However it has the right dose of what you could want.

Atleast what i want.

Neversoft
13-08-2009, 12:43 AM
Well one of the best animes ive seen, perhaps not stories as it were :P.

Indepth as NGE, you could consider it that, perhaps not so much, but tbh NGE is more indepth than other anime anyway.
As tension building as DN.... yes, more even.
Epic as TTGL, why, nothing is more epic than TTGL, but it comes close.
It ais as well put together as Baccano.
It is as involved as Utawarerumono.
It is interesting, havent seen mushishi
Perhaps intriguing as ghost in the shell, havent seen it tho.
The ending can be considered emotional!
The art is beautiful, perhaps not to everyones taste though.
It is as well developed as trigun.
It is more exciting than welcome to the NHK, and i havent even seen it.
Well balanced? wut? are you trying to make up stuff so that i type more?
It isn't perfect. None of those anime you mentioned are otherwise you would have used the same anime for each of those qualities.

However CG isnt meant to have EVERYTHING in it, coz then it'd be silly. However it has the right dose of what you could want.

Atleast what i want.

By the way, just incase you didn't know every question I directed at you in my last post was about the story. I was asking if the story was as tension building as Death Note. If they story was as beautiful as Millennium Actress, and if the story was as involved as Utawarerumono. I'm not talking about overall qualities, just the story because you said it had one of the best stories ever.

- Nothing is as indepth as Neon Genesis Evangelion. Nothing! There have been essays written about the ending alone which are long enough to be books, and even after that people can only explain their interpretation. Everyone experiences and interprets Evangelion differently, that alone is another to show how indepth it is. It's so indepth no one can explain it.
- More tension building than Death Note? Are you serious? Episode 36 and 37 nearly killed me. I couldn't stay still for even a milisecond. There was so much tension I was giggling like a little girl. A sane person would have thought I was crazy.
- Nothing even comes close to the epicness in Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.
- Baccano! is probably the best example of a well put together anime out there. Don't lie to yourself.
- So each character has a place in the story and the audience actually feel part of the show?
- Mushishi is a fantasy like no other. Although I guess it would be hard to compare it to Code Geass.
- All things change in a dynamic environment. Your effort to remain what you are is what limits you. Ghost in the Shell really makes you think and you have to stay focused to understand. It's also the only movie I've come across that has absolutely no pointless scenes, everything in it needs to be there. Is Code Geass up to that level?
- The Girl Who Leapt Through Time can make a grown man cry.
- I'm actually talking about the story so I don't know how the art got into this but... beautiful? The art? It's gay. It's done by CLAMP who are a group of like five middle aged women. Every male character looks like a complete poof.
- So it keeps you guessing, the conclusion connects to earlier episodes and it involves every single character ever introduced?
- Welcome to the NHK is like a none stop roller coaster ride in hell whilst playing your favourite game, eating your favourite food and having sex with your favourite celebrity. It can't be more exciting than Welcome to the NHK.
- Well balanced, as in is there a good balance of action, drama, comedy, etc in the story. Samurai Champloo has a bit of everything.
- I don't understand what you're saying, but I believe there are two anime in existance that have an absolutely perfect, flawless story. The first being Neon Genesis Evangelion, the second being Cowboy Bebop. Nodame Cantabile comes close as well.

I rest my case!

uje
13-08-2009, 03:05 AM
Speaking of Welcome to the NHK I thought today that I would finally start watching it, and oh my god! I am now on episode 16 and should be finished later today! I will not sleep until this is finished. It’s terrific! I'm going on a two week trip on the 15th, I was thinking of downloading the Gurren Lagann series to my laptop to watch it, but the download time is too long :( curse having a rubbish internet. I guess ill just have to make do with my Iphone. :( Thanks for recommending Welcome to NHK, its brilliant.

Southe,
13-08-2009, 08:47 AM
It is more exciting than welcome to the NHK, and i havent even seen

Thats the problem right there. how can ou say its more exciting when you havent watched it? Its awesome.



Speaking of Welcome to the NHK I thought today that I would finally start watching it, and oh my god! I am now on episode 16 and should be finished later today! I will not sleep until this is finished. It’s terrific! I'm going on a two week trip on the 15th, I was thinking of downloading the Gurren Lagann series to my laptop to watch it, but the download time is too long :( curse having a rubbish internet. I guess ill just have to make do with my Iphone. :( Thanks for recommending Welcome to NHK, its brilliant.

I was the same when i watched it. shame it only has like 24 episodes

Neversoft
13-08-2009, 11:43 AM
Speaking of Welcome to the NHK I thought today that I would finally start watching it, and oh my god! I am now on episode 16 and should be finished later today! I will not sleep until this is finished. It’s terrific! I'm going on a two week trip on the 15th, I was thinking of downloading the Gurren Lagann series to my laptop to watch it, but the download time is too long :( curse having a rubbish internet. I guess ill just have to make do with my Iphone. :( Thanks for recommending Welcome to NHK, its brilliant.

Same as when I watched it as well. I went in not knowing anything about it, only that it was good. From the first episode I was glued to the screen. It was amazing. I think after reading the manga I don't appreciate as much as I did though. Because the manga is notably better than the anime in more ways than one, although the anime does amange to outdo the manga every now and then. For the last half especially though, the manga is better.

There are two specific things in the anime that I do not like, but the Manga handles them perfectly.
- The first was Misaki's father abusing her when she was young, and hence she is as she is because she had a dramatic childhood. It works, but in the Manga that was another one of her lies and she was actually still living with her Mother and Father who actually work very hard for her. The story was a lot more interesting this way, and it fits Misaki's character to lie about something that serious without a second thought.
- The second was Yamazaki's departure. In the anime he expresses very clearly that he does not want to go back to his parent's farm to live. However, he ends up going and that's the last we see of him. Satou gets a letter from him later on saying how he's met a new girl and is happily living the farm life. That is not Yamazaki. Yamazaki was a pure Otaku, there is no way he could have been happy there after not wanting to go so badly, and he gives up his hobbies so easily. He leaves them all behind and quits being an Otaku just like that. This is Yamazaki, that can't happen. In the manga he does still go to his parents' farm after they order him to, aor so we're lead to believe. He gets on the train to go but Satou gets a call a few days later from Yamazaki's parents asking if he's seen Yamazaki. Turns out Yamazaki never arrived at the farm. Satou later encounters him by chance in Akhibara. He's been hiding there because he didn't want to go back to his parents. I can't remember exactly what comes of him, but in the last scene Satou and him are having a chat over the internet and it appears that they're still creating the game they started years ago. This shows hes still an Otaku, although I can't remember if hes at his usual palce or his parents farm. That's how it should have been in the anime though. The manga was better in a lot of ways, the ending especially.

Neversoft
13-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Editing time ran out.

Heres the best scene in the manga that was unfortunately not in the anime. Absolute genius. :P

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/Neversoft13/NHK1.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/Neversoft13/NHK2.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/Neversoft13/NHK3.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/Neversoft13/NHK4.jpg

Axel
13-08-2009, 03:13 PM
Code Geass art style looks horrid Niamh.

uje
13-08-2009, 04:31 PM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1271/wtooo.png

Welcome to the NHK is officially in my top five anime list :) It's brilliant, I will defiantly check out the manga if I can, unfortunately my Iphone app doesn’t have it, so I guess ill result to reading it online :( Have you tried the novel? I heard that was pretty good.

Neversoft
13-08-2009, 06:32 PM
I've been looking for the novel for the past month, but it's currently out of print and a lot of places are waiting for new stock. I checked everywhere. Waterstones will alert me when they have it. I have no doubt it's anything less than amazing, since it is the original afterall. The novel inspired the manga, and then the manga inspired the anime. Since I prefer the manga to the anime, I wonder how the novel will fair in comparison.

The Neko Misaki part was hilarious. Those two episodes where Satou was addicted to that RPG game were priceless. I always remember the scene where he filled up his computer with hundreds of gigabytes of loli images as well. :P Another big anime/manga difference I just remembered is that Kawashima-senpai's brother (the hikikomori who also plays the RPG game) has a much bigger role in the manga than he does in the anime. I was quite surprised with how big a role he had, actually. Theres a nice plot twist involving him though.

uje
13-08-2009, 09:48 PM
I've been looking for the novel for the past month, but it's currently out of print and a lot of places are waiting for new stock. I checked everywhere. Waterstones will alert me when they have it. I have no doubt it's anything less than amazing, since it is the original afterall. The novel inspired the manga, and then the manga inspired the anime. Since I prefer the manga to the anime, I wonder how the novel will fair in comparison.

The Neko Misaki part was hilarious. Those two episodes where Satou was addicted to that RPG game were priceless. I always remember the scene where he filled up his computer with hundreds of gigabytes of loli images as well. :P Another big anime/manga difference I just remembered is that Kawashima-senpai's brother (the hikikomori who also plays the RPG game) has a much bigger role in the manga than he does in the anime. I was quite surprised with how big a role he had, actually. Theres a nice plot twist involving him though.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7116/omgiuc.png

The funny bits of NHK were brilliant, there were however a few moments were the funny bits were a bit too childish for the anime, right now I’m having a hard time recalling many of these so I guess there were not many! :D One however stuck in my head was when Misaki was throwing rocks at Satos door and he was hit in the head by the rock. Things like that I thought did not go with the anime, especially as its target audience is older teens. However overall it is such a good anime! The ending was sad because that’s it, there’s no more :( However I just saved a link of the manga online to my Iphone so hopefully I will read that :D And hopefully find the novel to read soon :) Something I wonder after watching the anime is, are Misaki and Sato in a love relationship? Or are they just friends because Misaki needs Sato, and Sato needs Misaki. :S The ending of the anime left me wondering that, throughout the anime they showed love interest in each other, but they never actually kissed in the whole series.

Also, when you spoke about when Yamazaki leaving and it just like he left all of being a otaku behind, well looking at that scene were Yamazaki and Sato are talking on the phone when Yamazaki is out on the farm, it shows him with his stuff still there, His figurines put up beside his PC and his collection put next to his bed. I guess it’s trying to show he’s still the same guy he just has more responsibilities now.

Overall the anime is just amazing.


http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4237/ohoh2.png

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2492/ohohp.png

Neversoft
13-08-2009, 10:14 PM
I wouldn't say that's childish, and it helps set the mood really. You know a serious moment isn't coming up because Satou just got hit in the face with a rock. It's funny. :P Every bit of comedy worked in my opinion. Another great comedic moment was when Satou stepped on one of Yamazaki's models and both their faces turned to instant shock.

A kiss wasn't needed. The scene where both Misaki and Satou were in Misaki's abandoned house fully conveyed the feeling that they were the only two in the universe and nothing else mattered. A kiss would have seemed out of place. Especially considering the way the relationship is developed. Misaki and Satou rarely share their thoughts with anyone, but since we are the audience we always know what goes on inside their heads, so we know the relationship better than the characters do in a way. Most of the time Satou is oblivious to what Misaki thinks of him, and Misaki is oblivious to what Satou thinks of her.

But he's hardly the Otaku he used to be. I think they could have handled Yamazaki's part in the story a little better, but it was still great. I genuinely felt sorry for him when he got rejected and then put that mask on and started mucking around pretending he was a robot. He was letting his Otaku side run wild so he could forget reality. Subtle moments like that are what make Welcome to the NHK so great.

Just remembered another priceless scene. The one where Satou goes out with a camera to take pictures of all the school girls who were walking home from school. Theres a huge gush of wind which produces many panty shots and Satou dives up with the camera in joy. :P

Southe,
13-08-2009, 10:40 PM
Season set out 25th August. :D Shall be buying. might buy v 2-8 to finish it off aswell

lol, my mate got me into it when i started college was good. i remember watching a episode in class and getting some funny looks lol

uje
13-08-2009, 11:01 PM
Haha, the part were Sato stands on the model is too funny :P I thought bits like that were priceless and really were great moments of the anime, I guess its just that one rock bit that I didn't like :P Another priceless moment is in the RPG episodes were Sato is happy about what Mia has said and it cuts to a picture of his face in the real world which is almost bug like which has not shaved in a wile :P

I guess that in the moment when they were in the house a kiss would have been out of place, but there was still many moments in the last episode that I thought a kiss would have really summed up that they were in a relationship. I just felt that them being so oblivious to what the other thinks was a bit confusing, I mean I know that they both liked each other, but? Did that ever progress? I just thought they could have done something to show that it had progressed into a relationship, Maybe a kiss scene here:http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2765/hmhm.png

I agree that Yamazaki isn’t the same Otaku that he was before, I guess if there were more episodes it could have really done a bit more on Yamazaki and Kashiwa and also Kobayashis brother.

I really do wish the anime would carry on, maybe add a second series with more to it, i thought they could really do something more with the anime. The ending of it did not make it impossible for the anime to return! Unfortunately it won't :(

The mask looks so much like the old TV series Masked Rider! I think it is :D
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6998/lolomg.png

Neversoft
13-08-2009, 11:15 PM
Oh yeah, that's her name - Kobayashi! Not Kawashima. I meant Kobayashi's brother earlier, not Kawashima's.

The manga does a lot more on Yamazaki, Kawashima and Kobayashi's brother, and a little more on Kobayashi as well. What they did with Kobayshi's brother in the anime didn't really make sense. She forgot to feed him since she was too busy, he grew hungry, so he went out and got a job. Wa-la, he's no longer a hikikomori. That was hard. :S Oh well, it was still good. Seeing him ride by on a bike left me with a happy feeling.

I still think a kiss would have been out of place, even in that scene. Both characters have serious mental problems and I'm sure both don't know how to handle a romantic situation. The relationship is expressed through words at the end just before Satou jumps off the cliff if I remember correctly. I think that has quite a charm to it. I'm sure you'll be a lot more satisfied with the manga ending though. The second half of the anime focuses heavily on the realtionship, but the manga constantly, but very, very subtly builds it up throughout all the way up to the great conclusion.

It is. :P It's known as Kamen Rider in Japan and they're crazy about it.

Neversoft
14-08-2009, 12:06 AM
I just rewatched the first two episodes. :8 I remember quite a lot but it all seems so new. Probably because there isn't really any other anime like Welcome to the NHK. But oh my god, Daisuke Sakaguchi voices Yamazaki!? It must have been ages ago since I first saw this, I didn't even remember despite him being one of my favourite voice actors! What a perfect choice though. He's great as Yamazaki.

uje
14-08-2009, 12:29 AM
I will be reading the manga tonight, :) I have just read volume one and it seems really good, :) Btw I didn't notice about the names :o :P In the anime Kashiwa was not addressed by her name anyway, she was most of the time called senpai.

What I really liked about the anime is the soundtrack, I mean after the episodes it did get a bit repetitive to hear the same songs, but they are great songs that go with the mood that it is. Pearl Kyoudai really does some great compositions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv2NyXxm4Ts :) Brilliant!

The voice acting was really good as well, when looking for pictures I heard a tiny bit of the dubbed version and it didn't sound TOO bad, but still I would rather watch the Japanese :)

By the way I thought the Masked Rider was amazing back in the day! :D

Jord
14-08-2009, 07:54 AM
I recommend giving rave master a go its great :)

Neversoft
14-08-2009, 10:57 AM
I will be reading the manga tonight, :) I have just read volume one and it seems really good, :) Btw I didn't notice about the names :o :P In the anime Kashiwa was not addressed by her name anyway, she was most of the time called senpai.

What I really liked about the anime is the soundtrack, I mean after the episodes it did get a bit repetitive to hear the same songs, but they are great songs that go with the mood that it is. Pearl Kyoudai really does some great compositions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv2NyXxm4Ts :) Brilliant!

The voice acting was really good as well, when looking for pictures I heard a tiny bit of the dubbed version and it didn't sound TOO bad, but still I would rather watch the Japanese :)

By the way I thought the Masked Rider was amazing back in the day! :D

The manga is more or less the same as the anime for the first four volumes with a few minor changes, it starts to change drastically in volume five.

I downloaded the soundtrack when I first watched the series. I was instantly taken in, it's amazing. As you say, it does get a bit repetitive after a while though. The song you posted is my second favourite, my first favourite is this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1srSKFFpy4) one. I love the second ending song as well (here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaZZ0NVsIUI)). If I remember correctly it's sung by Misaki's voice actress.

Satou's voice is done by Chris Patton in the dub. I haven't heard it, but he undoubtedly has talent, unlike 97% of other dubbers. Aparrently he used to be a recluse as well so he could relate to Satou's character. I'm not a fan of dubs so I will probably never watch it, but Chris Patton was probably the best choice for Satou.

I never watched it myself, but it's referenced endlessly in so many anime and manga that I found myself finally looking into it while back. :P

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