Photographic Wire/Agency system

[DarrenToogood]

Hello all,

I have not had to make a request on here in a long time, however I feel that some of the more experienced and professional web developers, here on HabboxForum, will be able to help.

I am looking to work alongside a web developer to produce a wire/agency system, based around the following idea:

Photographers will be able to upload photographs relating to latest news articles, as well as libary images relating to the local area. Newspapers/publications/editiors will then be able to register, and download the images. Once an image has been downloaded, their account is noted. Manually, I would then send a paper invoice (however if automated computer invoices which can be printed off are possible, this would help).

I am not looking to discuss this too much, and the idea is simply an idea at the moment, however I am keen to hear from anyone who is interested.

[BoyBetterKnow]

I remember you :)

This idea is actually really good. Has this honestly not been done before?

I know that Newspapers pay Freelance Photographers for pictures etc.

I really like this idea.

[Chippiewill]

So your basically setting up a virtual agency? Good idea I think

[Agnostic Bear]

http://www.ap.org/pages/product/photoservices.html

Sorry! Done already. Everyone uses AP for everything, look on bbc images and others around the world, you will see AP everywhere.

[DarrenToogood]

Agency/wire kinda thing, yes. It is taking things to the next level.

Also I am thinking about this on a local area, not a national. The Isle of Wight has so much press about it all year round, having images all in one place seems a good idea. This could also be rolled out across the country.

Jew, most people like Press Association

[Chippiewill]

http://www.ap.org/pages/product/photoservices.html

Sorry! Done already. Everyone uses AP for everything, look on bbc images and others around the world, you will see AP everywhere.

What is it about doing something first exactly?

[Tomm]

If you need someone, and you're paying, contact me.

[Fehm]

What is it about doing something first exactly?

Well if its already been done before, the site is quite frankly going to loose some profit to the site that offers the exact same service. Promoting against something that is as big as AP will be an uphill struggle.

I hope you can pull it off.

[Kardan]

What is it about doing something first exactly?

It's like you trying to build a search engine and compete against Google and Yahoo.

[Agnostic Bear]

It's like you trying to build a search engine and compete against Google and Yahoo.

You either have to get the word out virally very very quickly and in a huge way (see; wolfram (which flopped)), or have a butt load of money (Microsoft)

To put it in comparison of what you have to do to have a chance. AP isn't something that offers much in the way of a viral marketing approach.

Hope you have several million Darren!

[Trinity]

I started coding a very similar system about a year ago, never got round to finishing it though. I'll check on my old computers to see if I can dig up the code for you.

[Jin]

AP Corbis and Reuters are 3 popular versions of this. Not knocking your idea but you may wish to look at their websites for any inspiration or additional features you hadn't considered.

[Skajo]

getty images

the list is hauge.

darren, you've failed about a million times before inc. when someone trashed your theme park so tbh I'd give it up. Sound advice. I don't mean it in a horrible way but you'll fail.

[BoyBetterKnow]

getty images

the list is hauge.

darren, you've failed about a million times before inc. when someone trashed your theme park so tbh I'd give it up. Sound advice. I don't mean it in a horrible way but you'll fail.

I actually remember the thread. He said he went mental or something :S

But still, it's years before today init.

[DarrenToogood]

Trinity, that would be brilliant.

Can I just remind people that I aiming to only supply images from the Isle of Wight - At current it is very rare for mainland photographers to come to the Island, therefore this system may be very cost effective for mainland photographers/companies.

I cannot believe people still bring up the Habbo days of CTP - Im a self employed professional photographer now, not some 13 year old kid bored after school.

[MrPinkPanther]

Can I just remind people that I aiming to only supply images from the Isle of Wight - At current it is very rare for mainland photographers to come to the Island, therefore this system may be very cost effective for mainland photographers/companies.
Well in that case you can't really expect to give the coders of the system commision for the profits the system generates because it will only a generate a small amount. Unless of course you're just paying someone for it?


I cannot believe people still bring up the Habbo days of CTP - Im a self employed professional photographer now, not some 13 year old kid bored after school.
and I can't believe you're still calling yourself a professional photographer. Look up the definition of professional.

1. You don't have formal training.
2. You don't earn a living from it.

How ever good you are, you aren't a professional. Its like with Golf, someone could be one of the best Golfers in the world but they aren't a professional Golfer if they haven't had formal training and they don't earn a living from it.

[DarrenToogood]

I have a web developer onboard now, however I am still interested to see what others can offer.

1) Very few photographers have 'formal training'. Photography is a learn on the job skill
2) I work full time as a photographer. It is my only job, my only form of income.

[MrPinkPanther]

I have a web developer onboard now, however I am still interested to see what others can offer.

1) Very few photographers have 'formal training'. Photography is a learn on the job skill
2) I work full time as a photographer. It is my only job, my only form of income.
1) However good they are they aren't "Professional" then, you can't just go around calling yourself Professional when in all instances you aren't.
2) Theres a difference between an income and a living. If I work in McDonalds on a saturday, and to be honest probably earn more than you do, then is it my living? No, because I get that from my parents.

[RYANNNNN]

1) However good they are they aren't "Professional" then, you can't just go around calling yourself Professional when in all instances you aren't.
2) Theres a difference between an income and a living. If I work in McDonalds on a saturday, and to be honest probably earn more than you do, then is it my living? No, because I get that from my parents.

You do not need any qualifications or formal training to be considered a professional. If you are skilled at your job, know what you're doing and have been doing it for a little while you can be regarded as a professional.

Regarding your second point, I'm assuming you're roughly the same age as Darren. You work in McDonalds, he's taking photographs for his income/living and is aiming even higher. I'd probably stop posting in this conversation if I were you.

Darren, PM me your email / contact details. I'll work with you on this project for free.

[BoyBetterKnow]

If I work in McDonalds on a saturday, and to be honest probably earn more than you do

Lmao!

I still like this idea :P

[MrPinkPanther]

You do not need any qualifications or formal training to be considered a professional. If you are skilled at your job, know what you're doing and have been doing it for a little while you can be regarded as a professional.
There are two definitions of professional but the generally accepted one is you do need formal training. However in no instances is he professional. At the very least you have to be earning a living from it. Again, you too need to look up the definition of professional, it doesn't mean you're good at something. Darren seems to think it means you earn money from something, in that case I'm a professional: Flash Designer, Website Designer, iPhone Developer, Cake maker, Carboot seller and so on.


Regarding your second point, I'm assuming you're roughly the same age as Darren. You work in McDonalds, he's taking photographs for his income/living and is aiming even higher. I'd probably stop posting in this conversation if I were you.
Firstly I don't work in McDonalds, like I said "if". But I don't really see how you can look down on people working there, atleast they are trying to get a bit of money.

Secondly he isn't taking photographs as a living, his parents paid for all his equiptment I believe and are carrying on paying for all of his stuff. As are mine.

Thirdly, actually I'm working with a professional Media and Software company full time over the summer and part time during term time. I have generated a large amount from doing this and I'm almost certain its more than Darren has made but am I professional? No. My parents are financing me so I can't be.