iPhone 3G vs 3GS+rep

[Blinger1]

Hey everyone, i guess its time for me to jump on the iPhone ship.. I am only doing it because i need to upgrade my cap (to the next one, $49) and the iPhone cap has internet for the same price as the current $49 cap (same features but this one gets internet for free)..

So, is there a big big difference between 3g and 3gs?
I don't think i've ever used the video recorder but i know i will need one when i don't have it. So is there an app that lets you record videos for free?


I know the 3gs does video recording but there are no stocks in melbourne atm for my telco..+rep :)

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[WizingWiz]

Statistially the 3GS is 54% faster than the previous versions,
as not only does I have faster processors and faster RAM,
but a faster internet connection, even with them both runnng 3G Internet, as the 3GS has faster hardware aswell.

The 3GS has
- Video recordering
- Faster Internet and processing speeds
- Internet teathering
- Voice control
- A compass
- Longer battery life

These arnt the greatest reasons to go for a dearer model, as many if these features and fixes will be cnfronted with the 3G in the new sofware updates,

so it's really down to choice over price really
Hope this helps
Wiz

Double Posts merged by :Mobile (Forum Super Moderator): Due to accidental forum lag.

[Blinger1]

well, the 3gs (16gb, its all i need, the lowest one rly..) is 5bucks a month extra.. and the 3g (8gb) is free..

is there a video recording device? and what one would YOU go for?

[Chippiewill]

If you jail break a regular 3g then you can get video recording working, however it is really slow

[Blinger1]

Is it easy to do? I mean, i can get a 3g now but the 3gs might not come for a few weeks :S

[Turbocom]

Statistially the 3GS is 54% faster than the previous versions,
as not only does I have faster processors and faster RAM,
but a faster internet connection, even with them both runnng 3G Internet, as the 3GS has faster hardware aswell.

The 3GS has
- Video recordering
- Faster Internet and processing speeds
- Internet teathering
- Voice control
- A compass
- Longer battery life

These arnt the greatest reasons to go for a dearer model, as many if these features and fixes will be cnfronted with the 3G in the new sofware updates,

so it's really down to choice over price really
Hope this helps
Wiz
3G has internet tethering as well bub.

I have the iPhone 3GS and I really don't think its that great. I like the fact I can upload to youtube and stuff but meh - think if you have a video camera you don't need 3GS.

[Blinger1]

I would use the video recorder on my phone because i don't have a video camera (only a digital camera that can take videos)...

but still, is there a significant difference between the two apart from the speed and camera? would i be able to notice the speed difference?

[Turbocom]

I would use the video recorder on my phone because i don't have a video camera (only a digital camera that can take videos)...

but still, is there a significant difference between the two apart from the speed and camera? would i be able to notice the speed difference?
To be honest, no.

[Blinger1]

so i should save the five bucks a month and go for the 3g (8gb) then!

[Joe!]

I'd go with the 3gs, it will be much more future proof, especially if the length of the contract is long. http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/17/iphone-3g-s-review/ look on there and watch the speed comparison video, the 3gs is much much quicker in my eyes.

[Wayne]

Go with the 3GS, it's a lot better than the 3G model otherwise they wouldn't have developed another iPhone. I bet future updates for 3GS are great too.

[Recursion]

You lot are saps if you think the 3GS is any better.

[e5]

i'd say its worth getting the 3Gs :)

[efq]

I have both and tbh theres slight difference, the 3G internet speed is fast enough for anyone and I didn't need it any faster, I never use voice control cause you look like a idiot speaking to your phone and it takes longer to start up and shut down your iPhone.

I would of stuck with 3G but was had the chance to upgrade so I did. 3G just as good tbh

[Tim.]

My brother has the 3G, but has just upgraded when he saw the speed of my iPhone 3GS compared to his.

They've upgraded the processor, to make the speeds a lot faster. It may not seem significant, but when more demanding apps are released, then you'll reap the benefits.

[WizingWiz]

I would much rather drill my money into a 3G, as it just seems that the 3GS comes with to much bagage, and the extra features and speeds arnt really good enough, for me to want to dip that extra bit into my pocket,

althoght fair point, it's is more futureproof, but with bigger hardware and software, comes bgger problems and bugs :(

I would also like to note, that jailbreakng an iphne is a great way to mimic a 3GS capabiltiy, but if you were to break the iphne, it's done for good, cause if yu bring it to apple, you'll have your self a law suit, and they will take the phne from you :(

unless you bring it down some dodgey back alley to get fixed lol oj

Wiz

[Turbocom]

Go with the 3GS, it's a lot better than the 3G model otherwise they wouldn't have developed another iPhone. I bet future updates for 3GS are great too.
You know nothing, they make these phones because they want money lol. Thats almost like Apple making one operating system and then done for the rest of their time. They make things to make them better, and as technology gets better so does the product.

[Recursion]

You know nothing, they make these phones because they want money lol. Thats almost like Apple making one operating system and then done for the rest of their time. They make things to make them better, and as technology gets better so does the product.

Exactly. Apple just leave out basic features like copy paste, video recording etc. to make money in the future :/

[Tim.]

I would also like to note, that jailbreakng an iphne is a great way to mimic a 3GS capabiltiy, but if you were to break the iphne, it's done for good, cause if yu bring it to apple, you'll have your self a law suit, and they will take the phne from you :(


Wiz

For someone who supposedly works for apple you seem pretty incompetent at giving good information.

Your not going to achieve much greater speeds by Jail breaking, really the only thing you can expect to gain is the video camera, which is incredibly slow. Apple don't take you to court for jail breaking your iPhone, it just invalidates your warranty.

As well as this I wouldn't expect and apple employee to be reccomending jail breaking to other people.

[x-glow]

Id go for the 3GS as it is faster, due to Me having an iPhone 3G and my brother has a 3GS, and I like his better and thats why im upgrading, but there isnt that much differnce tbh.

[Excellent2]

I would much rather drill my money into a 3G, as it just seems that the 3GS comes with to much bagage, and the extra features and speeds arnt really good enough, for me to want to dip that extra bit into my pocket,

althoght fair point, it's is more futureproof, but with bigger hardware and software, comes bgger problems and bugs :(

I would also like to note, that jailbreakng an iphne is a great way to mimic a 3GS capabiltiy, but if you were to break the iphne, it's done for good, cause if yu bring it to apple, you'll have your self a law suit, and they will take the phne from you :(

unless you bring it down some dodgey back alley to get fixed lol oj

WizSeriously what the hell are you on about? If he jailbroke his iPhone, all he'd have to do was restore it all via iTunes.

If the extra $5 isn't much to you then I'd recommend the 3GS. I have Cycorder (Video recording app (jailbroken)) for my iPhone, the quality isn't that good.

With the 3GS you have 4 processors instead of 2 which makes everything much faster. Internet speeds will improve and apps will load super fast.

The 3G is still an amazing model but lacks the speed of the 3GS.

Ask yourself a question. If your computers internet speed was slow, would you pay $5 to make it faster?

[efq]

Seriously what the hell are you on about? If he jailbroke his iPhone, all he'd have to do was restore it all via iTunes.

If the extra $5 isn't much to you then I'd recommend the 3GS. I have Cycorder (Video recording app (jailbroken)) for my iPhone, the quality isn't that good.

With the 3GS you have 4 processors instead of 2 which makes everything much faster. Internet speeds will improve and apps will load super fast.

The 3G is still an amazing model but lacks the speed of the 3GS.

Ask yourself a question. If your computers internet speed was slow, would you pay $5 to make it faster?
There isn't much speed difference, plus it takes longer to load and shut off.

The internet speed is more than fine and if you need it any faster then you are an inpatient ****, same with apps.

The voice control is pointless unless you like talking to your phone, compass you can get on 3G with app, same with video recording. So the only thing new is the 2x speed which I frankly don't give a **** about.

[Excellent2]

There isn't much speed difference, plus it takes longer to load and shut off.

The internet speed is more than fine and if you need it any faster then you are an inpatient ****, same with apps.
Yes there is speed difference. The 3GS caters for inpatient people, I agree. I would rather have my page load in 3-5 seconds rather than 10-12. Also, those big on the youtube experience will have their videos load faster. Another thing, you can upload straight to youtube from your iPhone.

[Invent]

Exactly. Apple just leave out basic features like copy paste, video recording etc. to make money in the future :/

Except copy & paste is free for all iPhone users..

[efq]

Yes there is speed difference. The 3GS caters for inpatient people, I agree. I would rather have my page load in 3-5 seconds rather than 10-12. Also, those big on the youtube experience will have their videos load faster. Another thing, you can upload straight to youtube from your iPhone.
My iPhone can load a page in 2-5 seconds, as any connection in a household. I can upload videos from my iPhone 3G lol and YT videos load as fast as normal for me.

[StefanWolves]

Put it this way, I'm glad my current iPhone 3G contract is due for an upgrade a day after the new iPhone is released next year. :rolleyes:

[Excellent2]

My iPhone can load a page in 2-5 seconds, as any connection in a household. I can upload videos from my iPhone 3G lol and YT videos load as fast as normal for me.Thats if you are connected to a Wifi network. 3G speeds dramatically increase with the iPhone 3GS, thats been proven. iPhone 3GS does that in 1 dude.

I'm not trying to sell the 3GS because I personally don't need it. I have a 3G and I'm just as happy with that.

Also doesn't the 3GS bring a 32GB model?

[StefanWolves]

The only reason why I would want a 3GS is for that extra bit of battery life, 32GB space, speed, video recording, and compass, (quite a big list when you look at it, but in the grand scheme of things, it's nothing that I cannot wait for) so apart from that I would rather wait another year for the next upgrade. :P

[Excellent2]

The only reason why I would want a 3GS is for that extra bit of battery life, 32GB space, speed, video recording, and compass, (quite a big list when you look at it, but in the grand scheme of things, it's nothing that I cannot wait for) so apart from that I would rather wait another year for the next upgrade. :PExactly the same as me. I would rather save £10 a month up until they do something special with the iPhone.

[StefanWolves]

I really do wonder at whats coming in the next gen iPhone. :rolleyes:

[Excellent2]

I really do wonder at whats coming in the next gen iPhone. :rolleyes:I would imagine some good stuff :D!

[efq]

I'm not trying make the iPhone 3GS seem negative cause I have it aswell but the hype of all it's new features isn't needed. The video recording is on the 3G, uploading to YouTube is on the 3G the only difference IN MY VIEW is a bit faster and obviously the 32gb one.

[Excellent2]

I'm not trying make the iPhone 3GS seem negative cause I have it aswell but the hype of all it's new features isn't needed. The video recording is on the 3G, uploading to YouTube is on the 3G the only difference IN MY VIEW is a bit faster and obviously the 32gb one.The 3G only has the ability to record if you jailbreak it. Some people don't want to jailbreak their phones as it can mess up during the process.

[efq]

The 3G only has the ability to record if you jailbreak it. Some people don't want to jailbreak their phones as it can mess up during the process.
They mess up if you don't do it properly and download the wrong things. They should know if they are going to jailbreak it then they should make sure they get someone who's done it many times before or watch the video on YT many times. Also key by making a backup. If they don't do none of that then they deserve to have it messed up if they are wanting to jailbreak it.

[WizingWiz]

How is this not good advice,

Jailbreak your iPhone, and it will vod you warrenty, and yes in cases you can be taken to court! You editing the iphne software, disabling components and effectivley stealing money, from apple and developers! So tell me how that isn't illegal?

And to the guy who thinks that iTunes restore button for the iPhone will fix a cracked, smashed or loose screen you have another thing coming, and what about hardware damage, yano the physicall damage? Or damage to the screen?

I never realised iPhone restore also had a magic wand? Because it dosent! Restore does not fix everything!

So stop being so dam argementative and accept that I'm givng advice,

Jesus some membes just love and old scrap don't they?
Wiz

[Recursion]

I would also like to note, that jailbreakng an iphne is a great way to mimic a 3GS capabiltiy, but if you were to break the iphne, it's done for good, cause if yu bring it to apple, you'll have your self a law suit, and they will take the phne from you :(


This is ********, IF you brick your phone Apple won't take it, they just simply refuse to fix it and give you the phone back. They can't sue you or anything because it is not against the law to jailbreak your iPhone, as much as Apple can try, their cases just get thrown out.

[efq]

This is ********, IF you brick your phone Apple won't take it, they just simply refuse to fix it and give you the phone back. They can't sue you or anything because it is not against the law to jailbreak your iPhone, as much as Apple can try, their cases just get thrown out.
Yeah your right, even some of the Apple workers jailbreak there phones ;)

[WizingWiz]

So you are denying that you can be taken to court?
Jailbreaking is editng the iPhones software, which is in breach of they're terms and conditions, of which they do have the right remove the product from you, at which point you can recieve compensation,

and no, not all the cases are thrown out, I will find examples of news stories and link them back to you,

hacking software or decompilng coding is illegal, and particpating is soliciting to commit fraudand breaks many of the digital acts in place,

you are stealing money from apple and developers, which is ilegal..

I'm not saying you are the one making he softare, bt sure The Pirate Bay wernt the ones hostng the files..

Wiz

[Tim.]

So you are denying that you can be taken to court?
Jailbreaking is editng the iPhones software, which is in breach of they're terms and conditions, of which they do have the right remove the product from you, at which point you can recieve compensation,

and no, not all the cases are thrown out, I will find examples of news stories and link them back to you,

hacking software or decompilng coding is illegal, and particpating is soliciting to commit fraudand breaks many of the digital acts in place,

you are stealing money from apple and developers, which is ilegal..

I'm not saying you are the one making he softare, bt sure The Pirate Bay wernt the ones hostng the files..

Wiz

Link the cases please. Also @ your previous post, where you mentioned that a restore would not fix a broken screen, its not at all what he was saying, you should probably read the posts the first time.

The only reason i have a problem with this is the fact you claimed to be an Apple employee yet its obvious your not, apple clearly wouldn't disallow the use of windows vista and fire their employees for it. Nor would they take users to court for jail breaking their iPhone, unless in certain cases where they are directly responsible for other users jailbreaking etc.

[Recursion]

So you are denying that you can be taken to court?
Jailbreaking is editng the iPhones software, which is in breach of they're terms and conditions, of which they do have the right remove the product from you, at which point you can recieve compensation,

and no, not all the cases are thrown out, I will find examples of news stories and link them back to you,

hacking software or decompilng coding is illegal, and particpating is soliciting to commit fraudand breaks many of the digital acts in place,

you are stealing money from apple and developers, which is ilegal..

I'm not saying you are the one making he softare, bt sure The Pirate Bay wernt the ones hostng the files..

Wiz

No, Jailbreaking it self is not stealing, and the users are not decompiling the code, it is the developers that release the jailbreak that are breaking the law, but as of yet none of them have been taken to court.

Apple tried to make it illegal to jailbreak the iPhone and iPod Touch, but the courts just threw their cases out. No matter how much Apple cry and try, it will not be illegal to jailbreak your phone. The principle is, "you paid for the device, you own the device, it is you're device to do as you please to.".

Apple have never taken a device from a customer because they have jailbroken it, this would be classed as stealing and Apple would be in the **** for it.

I think actually, you're talking out of your ass. An Apple employee would be mature enough to spell properly for a start.

Also "hacking" and decompiling code is not illegal, ever heard of open source?

[Excellent2]

How is this not good advice,

Jailbreak your iPhone, and it will vod you warrenty, and yes in cases you can be taken to court! You editing the iphne software, disabling components and effectivley stealing money, from apple and developers! So tell me how that isn't illegal?

And to the guy who thinks that iTunes restore button for the iPhone will fix a cracked, smashed or loose screen you have another thing coming, and what about hardware damage, yano the physicall damage? Or damage to the screen?

I never realised iPhone restore also had a magic wand? Because it dosent! Restore does not fix everything!

So stop being so dam argementative and accept that I'm givng advice,

Jesus some membes just love and old scrap don't they?
WizLearn to read before posting. I said that an iTunes restore would restore the phone back to its original state (3.0).

Also, Apple can't take nobody to court over jailbreaking lol. Once I buy the phone from Apple, I can do what I want with it. Thats like Apple taking all application makers to court because they modify the software. All applications modify the software beyond what the iPhone originally has.

[efq]

Learn to read before posting. I said that an iTunes restore would restore the phone back to its original state (3.0).

Also, Apple can't take nobody to court over jailbreaking lol. Once I buy the phone from Apple, I can do what I want with it. Thats like Apple taking all application makers to court because they modify the software. All applications modify the software beyond what the iPhone originally has.
Yeah, what he said.

[MrPinkPanther]

Its like saying if you overclock your PC then Microsoft will take you to court. You're extending it beyond its intended means but it isn't illegal.

[Excellent2]

Its like saying if you overclock your PC then Microsoft will take you to court. You're extending it beyond its intended means but it isn't illegal.Exactly my point. "Apple could take me to court if I sell my iPhone, because I'm giving their product to somebody else!!"

[WizingWiz]

No, Jailbreaking it self is not stealing, and the users are not decompiling the code, it is the developers that release the jailbreak that are breaking the law, but as of yet none of them have been taken to court.

Apple tried to make it illegal to jailbreak the iPhone and iPod Touch, but the courts just threw their cases out. No matter how much Apple cry and try, it will not be illegal to jailbreak your phone. The principle is, "you paid for the device, you own the device, it is you're device to do as you please to.".

Apple have never taken a device from a customer because they have jailbroken it, this would be classed as stealing and Apple would be in the **** for it.

I think actually, you're talking out of your ass. An Apple employee would be mature enough to spell properly for a start.

Also "hacking" and decompiling code is not illegal, ever heard of open source?


Of course it is illegal, Open source is alloweed to be open source,

Apple software is not open source..

And how the hell is my spelling on this forum anything to go by, to say i dont work in Apple, Its not like Im working in a dictionary company, so you stop talking out yuour ass...

The person can be held responsible for jailbreaking an iPhone,

The same way we can be held responsibile for downloading files,
Even thou we dont host them..

So stop thinking your the smartest person alive, when you have clearly just searched all your information on google, and got unreliable answers..

Jesus, you people are annoying..
Wiz

[WizingWiz]

Seriously what the hell are you on about? If he jailbroke his iPhone, all he'd have to do was restore it all via iTunes.


Learn to read before posting. I said that an iTunes restore would restore the phone back to its original state (3.0).

I read what you said, *Removed*

Just before this I said, If you BREAK you iPhone, NOT get a bug, Apple will not fix it, and you will have to take it down a back alley.. *Removed*Wiz


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[Recursion]

First off, don't double post.

How long have you been around these forums? If you had actually taken notice of any posts in this Technology forum you would have actually seen I know quite a bit about this kind of stuff, but I do admit, I am not the smartest person alive and I never claimed this, so be careful what you post.

I did not need to Google any of this information, admittedly I do Google quite a bit, this is how I learn. I also go and post on forums asking questions, answering questions, getting tips of people etc, is this a crime now? No.

Please don't post ******** without being able to prove your point. Link me to some articles where iPhones have been taken, or Apple have taken a "jailbreaker" to court please? Thanks.

So get your head out of your own, then go and learn to spell.

I refer you to this *~*amazing*~* song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos

Edited by Catzsy [Forum Super Moderator]: It is also against the rules to tell others they have broken the rules. Thanks

[Mentor]

Word on the street is the 3gs isnt worth the price jump over the 3g. At least, thats what people have been telling me and a few of em are apple developers :)

[Johno]

I read what you said, so stop acting like an ass:

Just before this I said, If you BREAK you iPhone, NOT get a bug, Apple will not fix it, and you will have to take it down a back alley.. So stop acting a smartass! Are we clear you idiot?

Wiz
Do you have any idea how much of an absolute **** you sound? If you restore the software, APPLE DO NOT KNOW IT HAS BEEN JAILBROKEN. The software on the device is restored to the original.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation have asked that jailbreaking phones - such as the iPhone - be an exception to the DMCA where Apple have said that they want it to be not so much illegal, but not legal either. A fuzzy gray area.

On Topic - I would personally buy a 3GS, and since its only really $5 more surely you are better going with the slightly better model? :)

@Tawm - I love that song haha :P

[WizingWiz]

Do you have any idea how much of an absolute **** you sound? If you restore the software, APPLE DO NOT KNOW IT HAS BEEN JAILBROKEN. The software on the device is restored to the original.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation have asked that jailbreaking phones - such as the iPhone - be an exception to the DMCA where Apple have said that they want it to be not so much illegal, but not legal either. A fuzzy gray area.

On Topic - I would personally buy a 3GS, and since its only really $5 more surely you are better going with the slightly better model? :)

@Tawm - I love that song haha :P

To be able to restore the iPhone it needs to be turned on, If it is broken, smashed or bugged, and cant turn on, your only option would be going to Apple,

Which was my point,

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WIZ

[StefanWolves]

First off, don't double post.

How long have you been around these forums? If you had actually taken notice of any posts in this Technology forum you would have actually seen I know quite a bit about this kind of stuff, but I do admit, I am not the smartest person alive and I never claimed this, so be careful what you post.

I did not need to Google any of this information, admittedly I do Google quite a bit, this is how I learn. I also go and post on forums asking questions, answering questions, getting tips of people etc, is this a crime now? No.

Please don't post ******** without being able to prove your point. Link me to some articles where iPhones have been taken, or Apple have taken a "jailbreaker" to court please? Thanks.

So get your head out of your own, then go and learn to spell.

I refer you to this *~*amazing*~* song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos

/win

i love you baby.

everything you said is totally true, i could not agree more, in fact, im 'gonna +rep you just because of how rite that post actually was...

[Recursion]

To be able to restore the iPhone it needs to be turned on, If it is broken, smashed or bugged, and cant turn on, your only option would be going to Apple,

Which was my point,

But since you such a SmartASS you would know that already..

WIZ

Well if it is "bugged", or in some way broken other than smashed screen or something, how will they ever know if it was jailbroken? And if the screen was smashed they would just hand it back to you.

Also, learn to use the correct vocabulary.

Definitions of "bugged" on the web:
having hidden electronic eavesdropping devices; "wired hotel rooms"; "even the car is bugged"

A covert listening device, more commonly known as a bug, is usually a combination of a miniature radio transmitter with a microphone. The use of bugs, called bugging, is a common technique in espionage and in police investigations.

[WizingWiz]

Well if it is "bugged", or in some way broken other than smashed screen or something, how will they ever know if it was jailbroken? And if the screen was smashed they would just hand it back to you.

Also, learn to use the correct vocabulary.

Definitions of "bugged" on the web:
having hidden electronic eavesdropping devices; "wired hotel rooms"; "even the car is bugged"

A covert listening device, more commonly known as a bug, is usually a combination of a miniature radio transmitter with a microphone. The use of bugs, called bugging, is a common technique in espionage and in police investigations.

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Wiz

[Recursion]

Wow, real mature.