Zetolic ~ Alpha 0.5

[Colin-Roberts]

Zetolic has finally reached the stage where we feel it is appropriate to start testing it externally. So Zetolic gladly announces Alpha 0.5. This release won't be online constantly as we will be taking the server & client down on occasion to update or fix bugs within.


How to Join:
If your interested in trying it out, you must go to zetolic.com and register an account. Once you register an account, you can login and click the client button on your right. Enjoy the Alpha.

Known Bugs:
Multiuser walking
Popups showup below the room at times.

Find a bug?
Please report it to us at [email protected]

Thanks
Colin Roberts
http://zetolic.com

[BoyBetterKnow]

Zetolic has finally reached the stage where we feel it is appropriate to start testing it externally. So Zetolic gladly announces Alpha 0.5. This release won't be online constantly as we will be taking the server & client down on occasion to update or fix bugs within.


How to Join:
If your interested in trying it out, you must go to zetolic.com and register an account. Once you register an account, you can login and click the client button on your right. Enjoy the Alpha.

Known Bugs:
Multiuser walking
Popups showup below the room at times.

Find a bug?
Please report it to us at [email protected]

Thanks
Colin Roberts
http://zetolic.com

I'm going to have a go right now ;)

[x-glow]

Hey, Ive got you on my MSN I remeber you, Yeah im gonna sighn up.

[Jordan,]

Wow I thought this had died i shall try in a bit ;)

Edit its down

[Meanies]

Why do we need to enter an address:S
I remember hearing about it ages ago though

[Colin-Roberts]

It's for your profile// the address can be fake.. or just like Ontario Canada.. It's just to give us an idea what country our users are from.

@jordan, we took it down for a second to add badword filter. backup.

[Jahova]

Pretty buggy at the moment but Colin has been notified of all of the bugs I found. This could proove to be pretty good ;)

[Chippiewill]

I remember messing about on it about two years ago :)

Site down :(

[Fehm]

Looking good so far lads :)

[Chippiewill]

Looking good so far lads :)


Looking good even though site is down?

[Colin-Roberts]

Thanks Tom & Jordan for pointing out some unknown issues, and bugs :P
Site Down for a few minutes.

Fixed Jordan bug ~ Name on login...

Concurrent users to date: 7!

[Jordan,]

The W bug

http://www.grabup.com/uploads/b427e9e7aa4ae7fc3ff25139f84abf0b.png

no problem always happy to help :)

[Colin-Roberts]

Jordan screen resolution??

[Jordan,]

1280 X 800

[Colin-Roberts]

same as me, I will try and reproduce the bug. Server/Client back online..
Also, in our forums, there is a bug category so please post there.. if you find a bug.

[Chippiewill]

Still down :rolleyes:

[Colin-Roberts]

?? me and harry and jordan are on it.

[Chippiewill]

Ah just realised, your DNS server must have temporarily failed the first time I tried to connect, logged in on a proxy :)

[Colin-Roberts]

ah, it shouldnt be down..

[AlexanderJJJ]

Ya, the site is still down.

[Fehm]

Looking good even though site is down?

I posted that 20 seconds after I closed the client. ?

[Fehm]

What about mee for pointing out the x on the ze card thing =D I deserve a mention lol

[Colin-Roberts]

was going mention that, when i fixed it :P

[Jahova]

What's the server (not the client) coded in?

[Eindo]

The server is coded in PHP at the moment.

It appears to be able to hold up to 150 users per node with clustering capabilities,

[h4x]

Right, first off...

Your client is very insecure, observe:
http://up2go.us/static/img/vh_zetolic.png
Second, your client coder (dont know if its you or anyone) cannot code in AS very well. Its obvious, considering mr hero was used. But im not going to flame it, its an alright project. Btw colin, if you use a VPS for your server but not your site, host them both on the VPS. The website is very slow, and im assuming because its connecting to the remote MySQL database on the host your server uses.

[Chippiewill]

PHP

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Longer

[Jahova]

PHP

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The server (one that sends and receives packets) is coded in PHP. Is that even possible?

[h4x]

Yes Tom, PHP CLI sockets are useful for SMALL things. Not an IMCE project.

[Sunny.]

Down agen, will try when its backup

[Colin-Roberts]

The server (one that sends and receives packets) is coded in PHP. Is that even possible?
yep. it's not the most efficient, but it works for now.

[Jahova]

yep. it's not the most efficient, but it works for now.
Does that mean you don't even need a running emulator or whatever? Just apache, PHP and SQL?

[Eindo]

Correct - it is the most efficient way for us to build the flash client whilst still having functionality in a very simple to develop language.

[Colin-Roberts]

apache, mysql,php

[Jahova]

Wow, would it be able to hold many users? Have you even tried a stress test? It's not everyday I hear of a backend for an online game coded in php :S

[Calvin]

The client doesn't work? :S

[Eindo]

The client does work - it does what its mean to do.

[Colin-Roberts]

it should?

we have stress tested the socket server and we will be releasing the benchmark results against smartfox. We figure about 135-150 concurrent users can be held by the server.

[Flisker]

I can't seem to move.

is the layout meant to look like this?

http://instant-upload.com/uploaded/15082456.jpg

Res: 1680 x 1050

[Eindo]

Browser and OS?

[Agnostic Bear]

:wtc: why are you using php for sockets don't even. With the amount of time this has been in development you would have thought you could have got a Java server up.

[Eindo]

The PHP socket server is, at the moment, not a permanent measure. Whilst we are developing the flash we are using a php socket server as it is the easiest language to develop in and make modifications. However, we may continue to use clustered PHP in the future once the site is built.

People who say don't use PHP for sockets; its too slow obviously are not developing the PHP correctly. We do know the limitations of PHP and how scaleable it is and should Zetolic reach a point where PHP is no longer a viable option then we shall re-develop in a language which suits us. JAVA / Perl / Python or maybe even C.

[awelsh]

Site is currently down? or is it just me?

Would like to have a go on here :)

[efq]

Can't move, I remember joining this yonks ago, I swear I had you on MSN aswell.

[Mickword]

Will do!

[Eindo]

One of the limitations at the moment is non movement.

We have had a couple of DNS issues of the last few days. Our web servers - MYSQL servers and socket servers are clustered enhancing our issues. We think we now have it perfect.

We are using a series of VPS's and Dedicated servers at the moment all with different suppliers so dependant on your location you may reach a server based in a different country.

[Eindo]

http://www.zetolic.com/network-diagram/

The information on this page only applies to http://zetolic.co.uk not http://zetolic.com.

We will be using the .co.uk setup on the .com domain within the next 2 - 4 weeks.

I hope this illustrates how seriously we are taking Zetolic and that an MMOCC does require a good investment and a large amount of know how. Any questions, do ask.

[awelsh]

Is it just me or does nothing load :S

[Eindo]

awelsh,

http://zetolic.com
http://zetolic.co.uk

zetolic.com uses remote DNS server from the data center and zetolic.co.uk uses our own DNS and sends you to the closest web server.

Could you please ping zetolic.com and zetolic.co.uk and post the IP's the dns server responds with. Being in wales it should return you 87.106.106.5.

[BigAlan]

Ye site is down.. not really good considering its a Alpha.. you should atleast be able to have a working homepage which tells us that the client is offline..

[Fehm]

Is it just me or does nothing load :S

Its not just you :rolleyes:

[iDenning]

Down for me, tried yesterday and today and didn't work.

[Chippiewill]

http://www.zetolic.com/network-diagram/

The information on this page only applies to http://zetolic.co.uk not http://zetolic.com.

We will be using the .co.uk setup on the .com domain within the next 2 - 4 weeks.

I hope this illustrates how seriously we are taking Zetolic and that an MMOCC does require a good investment and a large amount of know how. Any questions, do ask.


The Zetolic server should be changed to 32bit windows unless you stick in more RAM as it will reduce server performence (XP/Win2003 Gen X64 was not very good)

[Flisker]

My OS is Vista 64bit and browser is firefox 3.5

[Eindo]

Our server performs far better on a 64 bit OS. If you want more technical details on how / why this is the case we can prepare a page like the network diagram. We are going to spend the morning looking at the DNS situation.

Could somebody who cannot visit the website PLEASE give me some useful information like which DNS servers there computers are looking to or what IP's are received back from the DNS server.

[BigAlan]

Not being horrible or anything but the website could do with some work.. its horrible.. also i just went on the client and i cannot move at all.. which seems to me it don't work? might just be because its a beta but even still it should be moving.

I would also like to point out your purchasing system you can buy points? whats the point in buying them now? when clearly the game doesnt even work? maybe should of thought about that after the game gets released?

Seems to me your in it for the money and have not really put much thought into the game itself.

[Eindo]

If you took the time to read the other forum posts you would have realised how pointless and repetative the first paragraph of your post was. The purchasing system is in place as we are developing the whole site not just the non commercial side.

Yes, Zetolic is a commercial project.

[Chippiewill]

Our server performs far better on a 64 bit OS. If you want more technical details on how / why this is the case we can prepare a page like the network diagram. We are going to spend the morning looking at the DNS situation.

Could somebody who cannot visit the website PLEASE give me some useful information like which DNS servers there computers are looking to or what IP's are received back from the DNS server.

So how exactly does having extra channels give extra performance with 2 gb of RAM?

[Colin-Roberts]

the purchase page is online because it has to be online for the client to work, we have been giving out zpoints left and right for testing purposes. Whats wrong with the design? It's a commercial project, but we're not in it for just the money.. you people seem to fail to understand the work a project this size requires. There is more benefits to x64 then just if you have more then 2gbs of ram..

[GoldenMerc]

Hopefully it will be worth the wait Colin, you know im behind you, any problems flick us a PM (:

[Chippiewill]

There is more benefits to x64 than just if you have more than 2gbs of ram..

Spelling helps me understand people...

Such as?
Again, I fail to see how having more channels will help the system. Could you explain these benefits, if you installed it for the sake of it and you're lying then fine, however if you don't explain then that is what I will assume.

In fact I do know there are benefits to using x64 apart from more RAM, however I doubt you are using what I am thinking of considering they're not implemented into windows yet.

[iCicada]

Hack much? I went on a retro and it never froze my computer, But this did.

[Tim.]

Hack much? I went on a retro and it never froze my computer, But this did.

Im pretty sure that because your computer froze, it doesn't mean hes hacking. And I think I speak for many people on this forum when I say Colin wouldn't try anything like this.

[Colin-Roberts]

I'd like to know how a its a hack, when you don't have to download anything.. We can't help that your computer froze opening a 52kb file that is hosted on our servers..

[xXiShadowXx111]

Attempting to log in.

Takeing a long time. Will update when done.

[Colin-Roberts]

someone was trying to bruteforce one of our servers. should work better now.

[iCicada]

Oh, THis is good!

[Hitman]

When I login it doesn't do anything...

[Fehm]

You have to move with the arrows keys people :P I was sat clicking for yonks like.. ERMMM yh..... Then I like got told xD

[Colin-Roberts]

The new copy (not released) has click enter to speak, multi user walking (using your mouse)

[Baz]

been on Logging in... for about 5 minutes now :)