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19-08-2009, 05:22 PM
Is she really a HE? Women's 800m gold medal favourite takes gender test hours before World Championship race


Enlarge http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-0613853E000005DC-238_233x659.jpg (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-0613853E000005DC-238_233x659_popup.jpg) Doubt: South Africa's Caster Semenya on Monday. She is today facing claims that she is actually a man

The gold medal favourite in tonight's women's 800m World Athletics Championships race is today facing claims that she is really a man.

South African Caster Semenya, 18, is set to race in tonight's final in Berlin after sailing through a semi-final on Monday in her first major international sporting competition.
She will run at 8.35pm UK time.

But the teenage sensation has sparked controversy over her strikingly muscular physique.
Today officials at the world athletics body, the IAAF, revealed that it ordered her to take a gender test three weeks ago.

IAAF spokesman Nick Davies confirmed the tests were taking place, though he said the results would not be confirmed for several weeks.
Until the results are confirmed, there is nothing to prevent Semenya from competing in tonight's final, he said.
He added: 'At this moment in time we do not have any evidence to stop her running.'
South African athletics chiefs furiously denied the claims and stated Semenya was definitely female.
Molatelo Malehopo, general manager of Athletics South Africa, said: 'She is a female. We are completely sure about that and we wouldn't have entered her into the female competition if we had any doubts.
'We have not been absent-minded, we are very sure of her gender. We are aware of the claims that have been made but our aim at the moment is to prepare Caster for the race this evening.'
Semenya was ordered to take the test after raising suspicion during an incredible performance at a junior championship.
The teenager, from Polokwane in South Africa's Limpopo province, burst onto the running scene at last month's African Junior Championship in Mauritius where she clocked 1:56.72 in the 800 metres.

The time was the best recorded in the world so far this year by more than a second.
Mr Davies revealed that Semenya's astoundingly quick performance prompted suspicions over her gender.
Experts were concerned over the way she runs and urged the South African athletics body to test her.
A group of doctors, including an endocrinologist, a gynaecologist, an internal medicine expert, an expert on gender and a psychologist, have started the procedure but it is uncertain when the results will be known.
Enlarge http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-0617351B000005DC-165_468x324.jpg (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-0617351B000005DC-165_468x324_popup.jpg) Semenya, right, is literally flying, both feet off the ground, as she crosses the finish line ahead of Jennifer Meadows (L) of Britain during the semi final on Monday night

The complex process could take several weeks to be complete.

'It would be wrong today to take a decision to withdraw an athlete,' said Mr Davies.
He added that Semenya is not being accused of cheated, and emphasised the test is not compulsory.

'This is a medical condition,' he said. 'It is nothing that she has done. There is a need to make sure rules are followed.
'We are more concerned for the person and not to make this as something that is humiliating.'
Pending the results of the test, Semenya could be disqualified from the event.

Semenya was today warming up for the final, which is scheduled to take place at 8.35pm UK time and will see her competing against British hopes Marilyn Okoro and Jennifer Meadows.
Enlarge http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-061372CC000005DC-981_468x366.jpg (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-061372CC000005DC-981_468x366_popup.jpg) On Sunday, Semenya nearly met with disaster as she was forced to jump over fallen Janeth Jepkosgei Busienei of Kenya during the 800m first heat


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-06138704000005DC-688_468x502.jpg Caster recovers after the heat on Sunday night

Meanwhile the teenager's coach told South African media she was aware of the controversy surrounding her.

Michael Seme told South Africa's News24 website: 'We understand that people will ask questions because she looks like a man. It's a natural reaction and it's only human to be curious.

'People probably have the right to ask such questions if they are in doubt.
'But I can give you the telephone numbers of her room-mates in Berlin. They have already seen she has nothing to hide.'

Gender testing was introduced at the 1966 European Track and Field Championships and first used at the Olympics during the the 1968 Mexico City games.
International Olympic Committee regulations require all athletes to compete under their gender-at-birth.
Enlarge http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-01B2E0FA00000578-945_468x356.jpg (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-01B2E0FA00000578-945_468x356_popup.jpg) Not first: Dora Ratjen of Vienna, jumping 1metre 70 in 1938 to break the women's high jump world record. Dora was later proven to be a man, Hermann Ratjen

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-061C519A000005DC-670_233x343.jpg Meanwhile Polish athlete Ewa Klobukowska was revealed to be a man in 1967

However experts fear Semenya, who has competed internationally throughout her teens, should be tested to check whether she might suffer from from a rare condition in which individuals can exhibit both male and female chromosomes.
A source said: 'In a few rare individuals there is a grey area between male and female. It's possible that she falls into this bracket.
'The gender verification process takes weeks as it is extremely complex.
'If there were ever any suspicions regarding this girl, tests should have been done at the earliest opportunity to save her any embarrassment.'
If Semenya was proven to be a male she would be the latest in a string of gender fraud cases in international athletics.
One of the most famous cases saw female German athlete Dora Ratjen revealed as a man named Hermann following high jump success at the 1936 Berlin Olympics and the 1938 European Championships.
The athlete later claimed he had been forced to disguise himself as a female by the Nazi government.
The first athlete to be caught after the gender tests were introduced was Polish runner Ewa Klobukowska, who took gold in the women's 4 x 100 metres relay and bronze in the 100 metres at the 1964 Summer Games in Tokyo.
She was later unmasked as a he after failing a chromosome test in 1967.
South African athletics fans today expressed their anger at the claims about Semenya's gender.
Dozens posted comments on newspaper websites, with some claiming the speculation was racially-motivated.
One commenter, who did not leave their name, wrote: 'It just disappoints me every time that a good South African athlete comes around, there always seem to be questions.
'She looks manly, of course, but is she the only athlete who looks manly? I don't think so. Just because she has facial hair means absolutely nothing. Would they have tested her if she wasn't African?'
Another, 'Norman', added: 'What bull man! Our Caster is a woman,these European people cannot handle the fact that an African can actually be a champion in something and will always try to bring us down.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1207653/Is-Doubts-raised-sex-womens-800m-gold-medal-favourite-hours-Berlin-World-Championship-race.html

Pretty discusting to go announcing it publicly without knowing, if it turns out she is a she then how embarrassed and depressed will she feel knowing everyone see's her as a man.

StefanWolves
19-08-2009, 06:38 PM
thats crazy, its got to be a man.......

-Heart
19-08-2009, 06:41 PM
thats crazy, its got to be a man.......
Why does it HAVE to be a man :S?

StefanWolves
19-08-2009, 06:43 PM
Look at the picture of it sitting down? it even sits like a man, the only thing missing is a bulge.

-Heart
19-08-2009, 07:21 PM
Look at the picture of it sitting down? it even sits like a man, the only thing missing is a bulge.
How offensive are you? Calling her "it" :rolleyes:.

Callum.
20-08-2009, 01:01 AM
How offensive are you? Calling her "it" :rolleyes:.

well it's better to call it it than him or her, atleast with it you know you're not wrong.

DamianLove
20-08-2009, 01:08 AM
I watched her run on TV this evening.
It sucks to have that amount of publicity about you when your running.
What pressure.
I hope she's a woman just so she can prove people wrong.

Callum.
20-08-2009, 01:09 AM
although i hope she is a woman, it's not hard to see where the rumour came from.

her body does look extremely odd. probably held back with duck tape if not.

DamianLove
20-08-2009, 01:12 AM
I think they've already confirmed she has all the womans bits they are just seeing whether she's had an operation or have both male and female chromosomes in 'her'.

luce
20-08-2009, 09:43 AM
Well she looks like a man imo. But i don't see how a girl sitting like a man can determin gender i think she was just really tired.. so yeah just wait for the results of whatever they've tested :)

FlyingJesus
20-08-2009, 03:04 PM
I love how all her friends and coaches are just like WELL YEAH SHE IS BARE MANLY N TING BUT SHE HAS A FANNY

dogboy123
20-08-2009, 03:07 PM
I think its disgusting.

She had a race to do, and she was dwelling on being called a man.

FlyingJesus
20-08-2009, 03:37 PM
To be fair looking like she does I doubt it's anything new to her

AlexOC
21-08-2009, 02:08 PM
She got no boobies.

StefanWolves
21-08-2009, 02:17 PM
TBH, after knowing the publicity that she has got over this, i actually feel really sorry for 'her'... :(

Clowgon
24-08-2009, 08:21 AM
Big Compensation for her if she IS A SHE.... of course.. :badgrin:

Black_Apalachi
24-08-2009, 08:40 AM
The gender verification process takes weeks as it is extremely complex.

Erm.. am I missing something? I thought there was a really quick and simple way to find out... :eusa_whis

Clowgon
24-08-2009, 11:02 AM
I actually LOL'D HARD IN IRL.....

Andeeh
24-08-2009, 12:26 PM
She got no boobies.
most female athletes dont.

i really hope she is a woman

Clowgon
24-08-2009, 02:04 PM
Why do you hope she's a Woman.... LMAO?

ecstasy
24-08-2009, 02:35 PM
I hope shes a man, it'll be more interesting that 'oh sorry, we were wrong, you keep on running' tbh

leah
24-08-2009, 03:13 PM
lmao if she isn't then she must be sooo angry

Soka
24-08-2009, 06:05 PM
Shes a woman that just looks like a man, they checked her birth certificate.

Theres many sports people like this, take the French Tennis player Mauresmo for example I think a gender check needs to be done on her.

StefanWolves
24-08-2009, 06:10 PM
Shes a woman that just looks like a man, they checked her birth certificate.

Theres many sports people like this, take the French Tennis player Mauresmo for example I think a gender check needs to be done on her.

http://files.nireblog.com/blogs/il-est-trop-fort/files/mauresmo.jpg

I agree.

-WooTWooTWooT-
24-08-2009, 09:02 PM
he's here, he's there, he's frickin everywhere it's salif diaoooooooooooooo, salif diaoooooooooo

http://www.ferloo.com/IMG/arton4735.jpg

Clowgon
25-08-2009, 12:14 PM
http://files.nireblog.com/blogs/il-est-trop-fort/files/mauresmo.jpg

I agree.

small head big body. ye they need to check her tbh... has anyone hear her speak before..?:badgrin:

Arch
25-08-2009, 04:04 PM
yee looks like a man tbh but u never know

Shockwave.2CC
25-08-2009, 04:33 PM
It's a MAN/Youth

look at the pic there all wearing those small bottoms when she/he/it is wearing long bottom to cover the gental area

StefanWolves
25-08-2009, 04:49 PM
It's a MAN/Youth

look at the pic there all wearing those small bottoms when she/he/it is wearing long bottom to cover the gental area

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-06138704000005DC-688_468x502.jpg

Well she must have the smallest **** of all time? :/

Rozi
26-08-2009, 05:01 PM
Checking her birth certificate isn't going to be any use is it? Of course if she's actually a man she's going to have got a fake birth certificate and passport. I think she will be a she as it would have been very hard to have got really good, like professional checker worthy, passports and birth certificates.

MrGazet
26-08-2009, 05:10 PM
She looks like a man really..this is interesting

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