If someone killed the queen...

[The Don]

As you all know, the death penalty is banned in england for any offence.
Now let's say hyperthetically speaking, somone killed the queen. Which of course is considerd high treason, or someone killed the entire royal family. Do you think this would be considerd a special case and the death penalty would be used? Or do you think they would get the same punishment for killing any random person from the streets, and if they did not get the death punishment, do you think someone would kill them anyway?
Lol the only reason i'm asking this is because it's quite late and I can't sleep so as you can imagine, I'm incredibly bored.
Cheers.

[FlyingJesus]

The death penalty was abolished.. no mythical exceptions like high treason or arson in the royal docks

[Jackk]

i would believe they would get the same penalty as any other citizen that commits murder. just because they are the royal family doesnt mean they can reinforce the death penalty just like that on whoever they want.
but i suppose if they did get sentenced, they would probably be killed before hand, by either someone who is obsessed with the royals or a government scheme.

but its late, and im probably wrong. i'll wait for someone more knowledgeable to answer.

[Stephen!]

Hmm, im not sure.

I think they would bring the penalty back to be honest. just for that lol

[Black_Apalachi]

No they would get a prison sentence. I imagine for life and without any review every 15 years or w/e it is.

[J0SH]

I shall kill the Queen and we shall see.

[MrGazet]

I shall kill the Queen and we shall see.

oh yeah,i'm looking forward :P

haha,seriously that's a crazy thought but it could happen someday??
maybe they would bring back the death penalty?? but by then,,the country will be in such chaos that everyone will try to own the country lol and no longer cares bout the queen's death?:S

[LoveToStack]

I think it'd be treated, punishment wise, like a normal case. If an exception was made people would ask why seeing as many people don't see the Queen as a higher power probably feeling she should be treated like anyone else.

[Hitman]

Hmm... he'd probably get banged up for life.

The royal protection is very good... no royal has ever died whilst in their protection.

[Bun]

i'm sure i heard somewhere that there was still the death penalty for high treason and piracy or somet? help me out here cos i'm confused.

[Hitman]

i'm sure i heard somewhere that there was still the death penalty for high treason and piracy or somet? help me out here cos i'm confused.


After abolition of the death penalty for murder, die-hards began a tradition requiring the Commons to hold a free vote on a motion during each Parliament proposing the restoration of capital punishment. This motion was always defeated. However, the death penalty still survived for other crimes:


causing a fire or explosion in a naval dockyard, ship, magazine or warehouse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arson_in_royal_dockyards) (until 1971 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_damage_in_English_law));
espionage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_Kingdom#cite_note-8) (until 1981);
piracy with violence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_Act_1837) (until 1998 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_and_Disorder_Act_1998)),
treason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason_in_the_United_Kingdom) (until 1998 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_and_Disorder_Act_1998)), and
certain purely military offences under the jurisdiction of the armed forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Armed_Forces), such as mutiny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny)[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_Kingdom#cite_note-9) (until 1998 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Act_1998)). Prior to its complete abolition in 1998, it was available for six offences: 1) serious misconduct in action, 2) assisting the enemy, 3) obstructing operations, 4) giving false air signals, 5) mutiny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny) or incitement to mutiny, and 6) failure to suppress a mutiny with intent to assist the enemy.



I guess not anymore.

[Ladygaga]

I think they would be hanged, Even though they dont do it anymore. You never know!

[Bun]

I guess not anymore.
Ah okay thanks. :)

I think they would be hanged, Even though they dont do it anymore. You never know!
You should be hanged for that avatar and signature.

[cocaine]

dont be silly! they'd be put in prison for life but everyone knows they'll be out in 10 years ;)

[Heinous]

You should be hanged for that avatar and signature.
"You should be hung for having a differing opinion to me!"

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[Hitman]

dont be silly! they'd be put in prison for life but everyone knows they'll be out in 10 years ;)
Nah, they'd get out in 3 years for good behavior...

[cocaine]

Nah, they'd get out in 3 years for good behavior...

but dont forget two comfortable years in a minimum risk prison!

[superstar911]

I'm sure if you shot the Queen or any member of the royal family, their security guards would have a bullet in your head.

[Bun]

"You should be hung for having a differing opinion to me!"

*REMOVED*
pretty much, yeh.

[GommeInc]

They won't get the brutal, uncivilised death penalty. That was abolished and the treason death penalty was abolished soon after. A life sentence would probably be the answer, and an actual life sentence, not this 10/12 year life sentence for murder.

[Jordy]

Well you'd still get done for High Treason which I imagine has a very long death sentence but there's been no cases in recent history so who knows.

I imagine you'd be shot by the guards or maybe the army would treat it as a coup d tat and kill you? If the whole royal family died then a time of war might be declared and during times of war, our constitution and EU laws permit executions.

[Heinous]

Well you'd still get done for High Treason which I imagine has a very long death sentence but there's been no cases in recent history so who knows.

I imagine you'd be shot by the guards or maybe the army would treat it as a coup d tat and kill you? If the whole royal family died then a time of war might be declared and during times of war, our constitution and EU laws permit executions.
Someone's been watching Valkyrie and doesn't understand what a coup d'état is.

The royal family will never be completely killed off. The list of successors to the throne, in order, is 100+ people long.

[Jackk]

the list of royals to succed the throne goes on and on, the 8th in line to our throne is a 1 year old baby comon. more royals keep squirting out babies and we will have an everlasting royal family.

lets just hope if someone does murder a royal they dont get sentenced to a scottish prision and then get released soon after.

[Mickword]

WHY DO WE HAVE A QUEEN ANYWAY! She is just pointless!

[Black_Apalachi]

WHY DO WE HAVE A QUEEN ANYWAY! She is just pointless!

She's just livin habbo with all her fronz irl init ;).

Fgs will everyone shut up about hanging and crap. Kill the queen without being shot yourself in the process and you'll go to prison. That's it :eusa_wall.

[ElliotNewton]

I reckon it would just be a normal term

[HotelUser]

The person who assassinated John F Kennedy (US president) got assassinated himself.

So I suppose the assassinator would be assassinated.

[superstar911]

The person who assassinated John F Kennedy (US president) got assassinated himself.

So I suppose the assassinator would be assassinated.

But does the queen have any followers that loyal?

It also depends if the assassinator is British. If they come from a country with the death penalty that are allies with Britain they could very well be tried and executed in their own country. If the countries government had any involvement in the assassination however, then war would be declared and as previously said in time of war EU laws permit execution and he would be executed here. Or the British Government would secretly assassinate him, make it look like an accident, Labour are pretty much done with now so even if the fact they killed him got out Gordon brown would just resign, retire a few months early. I'm actually surprised Labour haven't tried something like this yet (Not necessarily assassinating someone) but something that under normal circumstances would ruin their political careers, they could still claim money for stuff, make the most of their last year, it's pointless them trying to save their careers because unless the British capture Bin Ladin between now and next election, Labours approval rating will be pretty damned low.

Anyway back on topic, I don't actually think killing the Queen should be considered High Treason. The Queen does nothing, killing her would make no difference to the Government or Britain (Other than televised news ratings would soar for a few days). Killing the Queen isn't exactly overthrowing the Government in fairness. And if the Queen is riding along in her carriage, waving to the people and someone in the crowd starts shooting, whether you hit her or not I don't think any of the police officers or army men protecting her will think twice about pulling out their gun and putting a bullet in your head. I doubt you'd even make it to trial.

[Browney]

WHY DO WE HAVE A QUEEN ANYWAY! She is just pointless!

She does more good to this country than harm.


Anyway back on topic, I don't actually think killing the Queen should be considered High Treason. The Queen does nothing, killing her would make no difference to the Government or Britain (Other than televised news ratings would soar for a few days). Killing the Queen isn't exactly overthrowing the Government in fairness. And if the Queen is riding along in her carriage, waving to the people and someone in the crowd starts shooting, whether you hit her or not I don't think any of the police officers or army men protecting her will think twice about pulling out their gun and putting a bullet in your head. I doubt you'd even make it to trial.

FOOLS. THE LOT OF YOU, FOOLS.

The Queen provides an attraction. We make millions off her. Hundreds of millions probably. She's THE tourist attraction of England. Americans seem to love HRH, along with other europeans than ourselves. I've been to watch the trooping of the colour twice. So by the time I've bought a few drinks, had lunch out, bought a tacky souvenier for me gran on two different occasions, I've just helped to provide for the tax payers of Britain, like thousands, I dunno maybe millions, of tourists before me that year.

[Alkaz]

If they killed the royal family and left no heir they would become the monarch so they can pass a law prohibiting the arrest of the monarch :)

[AlexOC]

I think they should get treated like a random murder.

Not a special for killing some old bag.

[Caution]

She does more good to this country than harm.



FOOLS. THE LOT OF YOU, FOOLS.

The Queen provides an attraction. We make millions off her. Hundreds of millions probably. She's THE tourist attraction of England. Americans seem to love HRH, along with other europeans than ourselves. I've been to watch the trooping of the colour twice. So by the time I've bought a few drinks, had lunch out, bought a tacky souvenier for me gran on two different occasions, I've just helped to provide for the tax payers of Britain, like thousands, I dunno maybe millions, of tourists before me that year.
She uses millions of pounds of working class tax payers money to fund her lavish lifestyle. Quite the opposite I think.

[AlexOC]

She uses millions of pounds of working class tax payers money to fund her lavish lifestyle. Quite the opposite I think.

:o

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[Browney]

If they killed the royal family and left no heir they would become the monarch so they can pass a law prohibiting the arrest of the monarch :)

Similarly, if I was Charles and somebody shot me mam I'd permit execution of the assasin. And if government didn't like it, I'd just dissolve Parliament. :eusa_danc

[Browney]

She uses millions of pounds of working class tax payers money to fund her lavish lifestyle. Quite the opposite I think.

Other than being an 80 year old who spends alot of time jetsetting around the world, battling jeglag on a gruelling regime of trying to improve YOUR country's relations with others, I guess her life is pretty sweet right?

No I'm sorry your right. It's public knowledge her favourite pass-time is burning money.

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[Caution]

Fair enough, the PM does a lot for this country also, but he doesn't get to live in an enormous palace funded by the tax payer. She does a lot for the country, fair enough but there's people that work harder than her that don't get the benefits she does, it's disgusting.

[Browney]

I would not be best pleased if I was eighty and being poked at and prodded by American tourists. Or if every christmas I had to get dolled up to do a speech when all I'd want to do is nap. :@

[Tintinnabulate]

Hmm... he'd probably get banged up for life.

The royal protection is very good... no royal has ever died whilst in their protection.

Protection is crap. Proved by the News of the World guy or whoever managed to easily get in.

[syko2006]

They would get charged for the murders of the whole royal family. (I have no idea how many members their are.) So say if there was 5 members, that would result in 5 life sentances.

Pretty much death, unless you're about 8 years old. :lol:

[Alkaz]

Similarly, if I was Charles and somebody shot me mam I'd permit execution of the assasin. And if government didn't like it, I'd just dissolve Parliament. :eusa_danc
The monarch cant dissolve parliament no more :) They took that power, along with the rest away :P

[nooblah123]

Why would you kill the queen anyway? :L

[Alkaz]

To become the monarch?

[Black_Apalachi]

To become the monarch?

Yeah any film where that happens should be banned. "Yeah I killed the king so now I'M the king. Ha!" NOOOO!! FAIL FOR ADMITTING IT!!!!1


http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/95976/implied-facepalm.jpg


:P

[ifuseekamy]

Fair enough, the PM does a lot for this country also, but he doesn't get to live in an enormous palace funded by the tax payer. She does a lot for the country, fair enough but there's people that work harder than her that don't get the benefits she does, it's disgusting.
Actually it works the same as the expenses that politicians receive. Only Buckingham palace actually release theirs annually. Also a large percentage of it goes back in public service taxes.

The monarch cant dissolve parliament no more :) They took that power, along with the rest away :P
No they didn't, but they want to take away. It says a lot that the government want total control of the state and to remove the ability for them to be removed from power.

[Browney]

Similarly, if I was Charles and somebody shot me mam I'd permit execution of the assasin. And if government didn't like it, I'd just dissolve Parliament. :eusa_danc

On further evaluation, if I was Charles and have been waiting to get on that throne for years, I'd probably knight the assasin.

[AlexOC]

:o

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I was expressing my views on how the queen operates.

It's not pointless.

[Describe]

The question should be: Why hasn't someone killed her already? I don't find any need for a queen and considering I am Scottish I do not regard her as important.

[Caution]

The question should be: Why hasn't someone killed her already? I don't find any need for a queen and considering I am Scottish I do not regard her as important.
Exactly.

Actually it works the same as the expenses that politicians receive. Only Buckingham palace actually release theirs annually. Also a large percentage of it goes back in public service taxes.

No they didn't, but they want to take away. It says a lot that the government want total control of the state and to remove the ability for them to be removed from power.
Politicians are somewhat useful though. She's not required. :)

[ifuseekamy]

Exactly.

Politicians are somewhat useful though. She's not required. :)
The main reasons would be tourism, Britishness and democracy. The monarchy has been far more devoted to the country than any politician, Hitler didn't call the queen mum the most dangerous woman in Europe for no reason. Really the queen pretty much is a politician based on her duties.

[VirtualG]

They wont be sentenced to death but they will be assasinated by some patriotic civilian. I would take a bullet for the Queen, therefore I'd blow off someones head to save her. I would kill someone for killing ht equeen but I would if they murdered the entire royal family,, which is near impossible with the Mi6 security.
Someone said that why hasnt someone tried to kill her yet? Well, there have been many attempts on many British queens. A LOT of them have been kept secret. And dont call her pointless because she is the main ruler of the british empire. She can fire the priministers of Australia, New Zealand, United Kingdom, etc... I wouldn't say thats a pointless job, she keeps them all inline.