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Jordy
03-09-2009, 06:59 PM
Just a random poll to see the variations of wealth on HabboxForum, I've kept it to a minimal by having the standard three classes, more than that and it gets confusing.

The poll is also anonymous.

Immenseman
03-09-2009, 07:00 PM
In before the poll.

In seriousness, I don't know. How do you define class? Parents occupation? Education? Wealth? Quality of life? Residence? It's an unanswered question as far as I'm concerned. Tell me what you mean by "class" and I'll tell you what "class" I am :)

GoldenMerc
03-09-2009, 07:03 PM
people call most people in kenilworth s**** and stuff and people in kenilworth call people on my road s****.
so i suppose im classed as upper class snob?

buttons
03-09-2009, 07:05 PM
no way, upper class are very wealthy and usually hold important roles. i'd be working class.

Technologic
03-09-2009, 07:06 PM
upper middle class i guess

Arch
03-09-2009, 07:07 PM
Middle class ? as im not poor but im not super rich but like we have a nice house and nice stuff in it? and i have a rly nice cat so imma say middle

Jordy
03-09-2009, 07:08 PM
people call most people in kenilworth s**** and stuff and people in kenilworth call people on my road s****.
so i suppose im classed as upper class snob?It depends on your parents wealth mostly, in particular the size of your house and where it's located. Other factors could be having a very good car, what qualifications your parents have, what your parents jobs are, how much they earn, medical insurance or being privately educated.

You can't properly define either of the three classes but it's usually quite easy to see which one you fall under.

Meanies
03-09-2009, 07:08 PM
um i'd say middle.

Geraint
03-09-2009, 07:09 PM
working class.

Meanies
03-09-2009, 07:11 PM
It depends on your parents wealth mostly, in particular the size of your house and where it's located. Other factors could be having a very good car, what qualifications your parents have, what your parents jobs are, how much they earn, medical insurance or being privately educated.

You can't properly define either of the three classes but it's usually quite easy to see which one you fall under.
going by that i'd say working then, because both my mum and stepdad left their old relationships and houses without anything really so had to start from scratch. and neither jobs are particularly amazing.

Immenseman
03-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Well I'm not sure, my step-mum and my Dad both came from very working class families. One in Essex and one in Glasgow and have stuck with those fundamental working class ideals throughout their life. They've worked hard and both hold professional teaching roles. However, at the beginning of my life I lived in a council house and there wasn't any money etc. Although that was when my parents were together and my mum was a house wife and my Dad just earnt enough to pay the bills let alone raise 3 children.

Now though, as us 5 have got older (2 step and 2 real sisters) they've been able to excel and have been the subject of numerous promotions. Managed to buy a 6 bedroom house, have 2 reasonable family cars and got me and my step-sister our own car earlier this year. So I would guess I'm middle class now.

Jordy
03-09-2009, 07:14 PM
Well I'm not sure, my step-mum and my Dad both came from very working class families. One in Essex and one in Glasgow and have stuck with those fundamental working class ideals throughout their life. They've worked hard and both hold professional teaching roles. However, at the beginning of my life I lived in a council house and there wasn't any money etc. Although that was when my parents were together and my mum was a house wife and my Dad just earnt enough to pay the bills let alone raise 3 children.

Now though, as us 5 have got older (2 step and 2 real sisters) they've been able to excel and have been the subject of numerous promotions. Managed to buy a 6 bedroom house, have 2 reasonable family cars and got me and my step-sister our own car earlier this year. So I would guess I'm middle class now.Indeed it seems so. Some people reckon that it's impossible to change your social class because of things such as values so that's why I've limited the poll to your upbringing rather than what you currently are. For example John Prescott is adamant he's still working class despite now being a millionaire because he's kept the same values and morales.

Edit:
going by that i'd say working then, because both my mum and stepdad left their old relationships and houses without anything really so had to start from scratch. and neither jobs are particularly amazing.Indicators of working class would be whether the council own house/flat you live in, do the government offer you much support in terms of benefits, whether parents are living by themselves, are their wages around the minimum wage and do you need qualifications to do the jobs.

Jord
03-09-2009, 07:23 PM
people call most people in kenilworth s**** and stuff and people in kenilworth call people on my road s****.
so i suppose im classed as upper class snob?


Chav



I'd say im upper middle class

Meanies
03-09-2009, 07:27 PM
Indeed it seems so. Some people reckon that it's impossible to change your social class because of things such as values so that's why I've limited the poll to your upbringing rather than what you currently are. For example John Prescott is adamant he's still working class despite now being a millionaire because he's kept the same values and morales.

Edit: Indicators of working class would be whether the council own house/flat you live in, do the government offer you much support in terms of benefits, whether parents are living by themselves, are their wages around the minimum wage and do you need qualifications to do the jobs.
No but it's a little rented terrace house. but it's close to everything we need to it's a good place for us. but then when i was little and lived with my mum and dad it was a council house but then we bought it and then they split up like a month after. tbh i'd say my dad was 'better off' than us and he lives on his own, but in the house we'd bought so doesn't have to pay the rent. My mum and stepdad earn more than 30k a year because I don't get EMA but it was only just over, and that was because my stepdad got a promotion for a year. and my mum got pregnant when she was 16 so didn't do college so she doesn't really have many qualifications, but i think she did do some night school thing after to get some. but now she can do courses at work anyway to earn some and her work pays for them anyway :P

oops i didn't think i'd wrote that much

buttons
03-09-2009, 07:36 PM
that's exactly same as me jake, except i get full ema because it's only my mum who has an income in the family. my mum had decent pay and my dad had and still has a very generous wage so we were well off at the begining and they both put together their money and bought the house i'm living it atm. but after he left and the hospital mum worked at closed we kinda struggled for money a bit so now she works 2 jobs + takes any others she can so i'd say we're working class even though she has decent qualifications and we have our own house..

at school so many people reckon they're upper/upper middle class. i don't think anyone really knows the true meaning of it :S

Jordy
03-09-2009, 07:41 PM
No but it's a little rented terrace house. but it's close to everything we need to it's a good place for us. but then when i was little and lived with my mum and dad it was a council house but then we bought it and then they split up like a month after. tbh i'd say my dad was 'better off' than us and he lives on his own, but in the house we'd bought so doesn't have to pay the rent. My mum and stepdad earn more than 30k a year because I don't get EMA but it was only just over, and that was because my stepdad got a promotion for a year. and my mum got pregnant when she was 16 so didn't do college so she doesn't really have many qualifications, but i think she did do some night school thing after to get some. but now she can do courses at work anyway to earn some and her work pays for them anyway :P

oops i didn't think i'd wrote that muchYou're probably like Immenseman then but it's difficult to tell, either way it's pretty borderline. Most likely you've gone from working class to middle class.


at school so many people reckon they're upper/upper middle class. i don't think anyone really knows the true meaning of it :SI see what you mean, some people just don't understand the social classes at all but at the end of the day they're pretty meaningless and classes aren't quite what they used to be. Working class used to be far worse for example and middle class used to be more difficult to achieve. And values used to play a much bigger part although today, I think society generally has the same morales.

Hecktix
03-09-2009, 07:43 PM
Haha.

Well here goes

When my parents were together we were upper class

5 bedroom house in a very well respected area, Dad earning £80k & mum was a housewife.

When my mum & dad split my mums new husband wasn't as well off and we were probably middle class

Now mum's on her own we're working class :P

Haha :)

Black_Apalachi
03-09-2009, 07:46 PM
Isn't upper class royalty and maybe the very wealthy families with heirs etc and working class are labourers (farmers etc) while the majority of the UK are middle class?

Anyway I voted for the wrong one. http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs48/f/2009/210/5/a/face_palm_by_Draculasaurus.gif

Misawa
03-09-2009, 07:51 PM
Middle class.

Meanies
03-09-2009, 07:52 PM
You're probably like Immenseman then but it's difficult to tell, either way it's pretty borderline. Most likely you've gone from working class to middle class.

Yeah something like that :P
It's weird though because my mum's family have been pretty middle/higher class with my grandad being a headteacher and gran being a teacher and they have a pretty nice house, new cars every year and whatnot. Whilst my dad's side is working class and my gran on that side lives in a council house with a pretty old car :P But now it seems to have swapped with my dad being more middle and my mum more working

Jordy
03-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Isn't upper class royalty and maybe the very wealthy families with heirs etc No what you've described is aristocracy which is the step above upper class.

Dusty-09
03-09-2009, 07:55 PM
Upper Middle Class I guess...

Alkaz
03-09-2009, 07:57 PM
In a few years class will be a majort part of society again, cant wait :rolleyes: what with everyone 'needing' to have the latest this and that, you will soon start getting very clear divides, thus your class system well and truely back.


*Oh and working class :)

Hushie
03-09-2009, 08:03 PM
Working class, although my mum has two degrees.

Inseriousity.
03-09-2009, 08:26 PM
Isn't class 'officially' described as your parents job? Even though there's loads of arguments about it, shouldn't we just stick to the official thing? :D

When you do sociology, you realise that class already does cause divides, alkaz. They just aren't as clear as they used to be...

Working class for me.

Caution
03-09-2009, 08:53 PM
I live in an ex-council house (but it's nice, nothing like off crimewatch lmao ;)). The sterotype doesn't really apply here because of the area. My Mum has a very good job with the council she's had for 27 years (but it's just us in the house). I'm working class. (:

cocaine
03-09-2009, 08:59 PM
Well I'm not sure, my step-mum and my Dad both came from very working class families.


How do you define class? Parents occupation? Education? Wealth? Quality of life? Residence? It's an unanswered question as far as I'm concerned.

;)

and anyway
i live in a middle class area, and my parents jobs, our house and education could define us as the higher end of middle class.

luce
03-09-2009, 09:03 PM
middle class i spose? i don't live in no states house :eusa_danc

GommeInc
03-09-2009, 09:11 PM
Technically mid-upper class :P Because the class system has gotten so old and unreliable that it cannot take into account all factors like in the days of old :P

Saying that, the older generation on my dad's side were definitely upper class, no doubt about it - rich, lived in a huge house in Kent in a quiet but surprisingly quaint area and had huge jobs. My mum's side is working class, they worked on the fields. For some reason, the upper classness hasn't really rubbed off, but my dad never got on with his mum so it kinda dissolved. But there are a few odd things still in there. So mid-upper class is probably the better option (so neither on the poll).

ifuseekamy
03-09-2009, 09:15 PM
at school so many people reckon they're upper/upper middle class. i don't think anyone really knows the true meaning of it :S
Lol, but the upper-middle and certainly the upper class are almost always privately educated? So it's obvious they're lying unless you go to a public school :S

No what you've described is aristocracy which is the step above upper class.
Aristocracy is upper class, people who inherit wealth and have titles like 'Duke and Duchess of wherever'. Apparently you can only be born into it. Kate Middleton is looked down on for being "too middle-class" for Prince Harry, despite living with her millionaire parents.

ItsDave
03-09-2009, 09:20 PM
Working Middle Class, it was a mediocre life. Lol

N!ck
03-09-2009, 09:26 PM
From money and possesions etc. Working class.

From education and values middle class?

GommeInc
03-09-2009, 09:32 PM
Oo, if wikipedia is correct, and that's debateable :P People are getting muddled up with the US class system! Upper Class for the UK are people born into it, with a title of nobility while the other titles look to be more about money and qualifications, though mainly focused on money from what can be perceived.

BoomItsClowgon
03-09-2009, 09:44 PM
You don't have to be posh to be privileged!

About 20 years ago, my mum lived in a flat with 3 children. Very very poor then still are tbh.

Anyway 20 years on, now in a 3 bed room rented house, which is completely ****.

Housing Association is a complete joke, probably one of the worst in the UK. A lot of maintenance work needs to be done to the house and there is parts that after years of complaing about, is still isn't done. (This is what you have to put up with when you can't get out of a situation as bad as this)

Both of my brothers have their own house, (Paying mortgages) one of my brother's has a gf and she's paying half. Other brother is about to rent out his house and move back in with us.

Both working class, one is a Policeman and the other one is a Marketing sales manager. (Both struggle to pay Mortgages)

Mum works full time, no degrees, i don't think. Due to my Mum's bad upbring with her mum.

But ye, it would be nice to go out and buy what you like but i suppose life won't be like this for ever. If you want something, if you put your mind to it, you can achieve it.

I shouldn't be complaining anyway, i have a roof over my head, if i don't have enough food, at least I've had something.. compare to me and people in countries like Africa i'm like completely upper class. :L

Sorry for the longgggg life story.

The Professor
03-09-2009, 10:31 PM
I'm somewhere between working class and middle class. I don't get any ema at all but my mum & stepdads jobs are barely enough to pay the bills and buy the food, by the time it comes to anything like christmas or birthdays i get limited to about £50 unless I chip in myself. They've never had enough money to help me out financially (driving lessons, money for going out, pocket money when I was younger etc) but we've never been on benefits or anything, its some sort of horrible line where I can't really complain about being poor but we don't have any money :P

That said, before my parents split up we had a pretty big 4 bedroomed house that we bought when the housing market was at its lowest (it was about 50k I think!) and over the years they decorated it and made it really nice and it was worth about 200k when my dad eventually sold it after they split up. I grew up there and we easily had enough money for anything we wanted so I kind of still have that sort of middle class mindset and attiitudes (being well spoken, not drinking heavily all the time etc) so yeah, guess I'm living in the past a bit :P

Black_Apalachi
04-09-2009, 12:40 AM
Isn't class 'officially' described as your parents job? Even though there's loads of arguments about it, shouldn't we just stick to the official thing? :D

When you do sociology, you realise that class already does cause divides, alkaz. They just aren't as clear as they used to be...

Working class for me.

Yeah same in psychology.


Oo, if wikipedia is correct, and that's debateable :P People are getting muddled up with the US class system! Upper Class for the UK are people born into it, with a title of nobility while the other titles look to be more about money and qualifications, though mainly focused on money from what can be perceived.

That's what I was saying :).

alexxxxx
04-09-2009, 09:00 AM
my parents make a combined £100k+/yr. yet we don't have a massive house, but my dad does have a subaru. does that make me upper or middle.

oh my mum went to university, my dad couldn't however.

Amberr
04-09-2009, 02:53 PM
middle class i wud say

Immenseman
04-09-2009, 02:58 PM
i don't really think anyone on the forum is upper class unless you're like royalty or random titles from your parents like duke/sir whatever else there is.

Alkaz
04-09-2009, 02:59 PM
When you do sociology, you realise that class already does cause divides, alkaz. They just aren't as clear as they used to be...

Working class for me.
I know that, thats why I said, 100 years ago, even 50 years ago they were still there pretty strong, now the have kinda faded out but now the media and attention on money and labels is bringing that back strong and fast. It's easy to see, if you do sociology or not.

Immenseman
04-09-2009, 03:00 PM
Yeah, this is basically a sociology lesson Mike :P haha

Inseriousity.
04-09-2009, 03:03 PM
It's easy to see, if you do sociology or not.

Hehe true, maybe I never noticed cos I don't really care. :P

Alkaz
04-09-2009, 03:06 PM
Class is pretty hard really, I mean you could win £60m on the euromillions and be stinking rich, but could still be working class or live were ever, does that money make you upper class because your wealthy? It doesnt really, alot of upper class people have no money to there name, just inherited homes and names like you said Jake. I think that really the only upper class can be described as is the aristocracy and such as them.

Invent
04-09-2009, 04:01 PM
People call me upper middle class because I have a nice house at 17 but I'd probably call myself middle class lol.

FlyingJesus
04-09-2009, 04:04 PM
people call most people in kenilworth s**** and stuff and people in kenilworth call people on my road s****.
so i suppose im classed as upper class snob?

Being a snob doesn't make you upper class lol, being a lord or some other such titled person does.

Am middle class *~+*strut through suburbs*+~*

Rozi
04-09-2009, 06:30 PM
I would say I was middle class, as even though when we were living off benefits we still had a nice house which was helped paid for by my middle/upper class grandpa so I would say we were middle upper class :)

dirrty
04-09-2009, 06:40 PM
i was wondering how long it'll take until someone mentions sociology lol. i'm middle class & the majority of this forum will not be upper class anywayz

Immenseman
04-09-2009, 06:41 PM
i dont think anyone would tbh

syko2006
04-09-2009, 07:33 PM
my parents make a combined £100k+/yr. yet we don't have a massive house, but my dad does have a subaru. does that make me upper or middle.

oh my mum went to university, my dad couldn't however.


Your Dad owning a Scooby doesn't make him minted lol, I don't mean to rain on your parade or anything, but £100K+ a year is still good pal! :)

RichardKnox
04-09-2009, 08:24 PM
My dad owns his own business, we have 3 nice cars and live in a relatively big house. But really, my dad has working class roots and would probably still say he's working class with money. If it's defined as job then we're working class, he's a joiner. Wealth, upper/middle class. I honestly don't really know, but I think all of my mates are probably middle class so it kinda shows the difference even in a single class, where we have money while others nearly struggle to get by.

Swearwolf
04-09-2009, 08:51 PM
between working and middle, more middle

jackass
04-09-2009, 09:59 PM
Middle class I assume?

Immenseman
04-09-2009, 10:02 PM
My dad owns his own business, we have 3 nice cars and live in a relatively big house. But really, my dad has working class roots and would probably still say he's working class with money. If it's defined as job then we're working class, he's a joiner. Wealth, upper/middle class. I honestly don't really know, but I think all of my mates are probably middle class so it kinda shows the difference even in a single class, where we have money while others nearly struggle to get by.
Same, mine would insist they were yet they're now really snobby about some things and I like to remind them they weren't always like that, to wind them up. Like they only buy organic and free range food, whereas they used to shop around for the bargains! :P

Mickword
04-09-2009, 10:09 PM
I am middle upper class, or alliedentie as jimmy carr says.

Kardan
04-09-2009, 10:15 PM
Working, my parents got near to none qualifications and their jobs aren't exactly top notch, although I'm doing my best to change all that. I beat both of my parents qualifications put together when I was 14, just shows how bad they did :rolleyes:

nooblah123
05-09-2009, 02:41 AM
Middle/abit upper i guess :L
off-topic: 200 posts :D

Chippiewill
05-09-2009, 08:20 AM
I think upper class is roughly above 70k income per annum. I think lower class is below 20/25k per annum.

ecstasy
05-09-2009, 10:37 AM
i'd say upper middle, though i voted middle

Catzsy
05-09-2009, 11:32 AM
I would say to be Upper Class generally means that you have to be born into it such as 'titled' parents etc.

Market Researchers use the following classification which has little to do with money. You could be Upper Class and broke.

social grade social status occupation
A upper middle class higher managerial, administrative or professional
B middle class intermediate managerial, administrative or professional
C1 lower middle class supervisory or clerical, junior managerial, administrative or professional
C2 skilled working class skilled manual workers
D working class semi and unskilled manual workers
E those at lowest level of subsistence state pensioners or widows (no other earner), casual or lowest grade workers

JACKTARD
05-09-2009, 12:23 PM
people call me posh because of the area i live in and the size of my house,

some people, who dont know me think of me as a snob but i'm so not.
Kinda proves im not because i have friends from all walks of life :/
so i guess im upper class

Molly.22
05-09-2009, 12:28 PM
I don't like seeing myself as in a group, I admit people tease me for being better off than them. :P

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 12:31 PM
Middle class -

Not mega rich, but never money - troubled.

Ed.
05-09-2009, 12:36 PM
I think I'm middle class :)

FlyingJesus
05-09-2009, 12:37 PM
I would say to be Upper Class generally means that you have to be born into it such as 'titled' parents etc.

Market Researchers use the following classification which has little to do with money. You could be Upper Class and broke.

social grade social status occupation
A upper middle class higher managerial, administrative or professional
B middle class intermediate managerial, administrative or professional
C1 lower middle class supervisory or clerical, junior managerial, administrative or professional
C2 skilled working class skilled manual workers
D working class semi and unskilled manual workers
E those at lowest level of subsistence state pensioners or widows (no other earner), casual or lowest grade workers

Rosie wins again - I doubt any of the people who've said upper class truly are, that's like either lords and dukes etc or at least knighted corporate giants. I don't know who's seen Frasier ever but if you think how he lives (fancy penthouse apartment, designer everything, posh food and wine) he is in UK terms middle class still, despite his wealth and position as a high-rate psychiatrist. Fictional character yes but the point stands.

My guess would be that most people here are C1-E with perhaps a few ** (which I believe to be about the level of doctors and other such highly qualified peoples) but I could be wrong there.

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 01:15 PM
Yeh people on here think they are Upper-Class when they still live in a 3 bedroom council house.

Immenseman
05-09-2009, 01:17 PM
I don't think that's true. I've already said earlier in this thread that people think they're upper class because they have lots of money and a nice house. That isn't being upper class, upper class is when you're like aristocracy.

Judge Judy
05-09-2009, 01:36 PM
I would say to be Upper Class generally means that you have to be born into it such as 'titled' parents etc.

Market Researchers use the following classification which has little to do with money. You could be Upper Class and broke.

social grade social status occupation
A upper middle class higher managerial, administrative or professional
B middle class intermediate managerial, administrative or professional
C1 lower middle class supervisory or clerical, junior managerial, administrative or professional
C2 skilled working class skilled manual workers
D working class semi and unskilled manual workers
E those at lowest level of subsistence state pensioners or widows (no other earner), casual or lowest grade workers

Following Rosie's (&market research) scale then I'd be in the A-C1 range with my parents work and such; so I'll say middle class as that's what A-C1 pretty much is.

LoveToStack
05-09-2009, 02:15 PM
Middle class. Mother is a forensic scientist with the qualifications to be a crime scene investigator. Father is a clinical pathologist. Both came from working class backgrounds, we live in a decent house.

Caution
05-09-2009, 02:51 PM
I would say to be Upper Class generally means that you have to be born into it such as 'titled' parents etc.

Market Researchers use the following classification which has little to do with money. You could be Upper Class and broke.

social grade social status occupation
A upper middle class higher managerial, administrative or professional
B middle class intermediate managerial, administrative or professional
C1 lower middle class supervisory or clerical, junior managerial, administrative or professional
C2 skilled working class skilled manual workers
D working class semi and unskilled manual workers
E those at lowest level of subsistence state pensioners or widows (no other earner), casual or lowest grade workers

I remember my English teacher showing me that years ago.

My Mum is C1, mum's bf is D. Dad is C2, his gf is A. I suppose it goes on household though. If we're going by that I'm lower middle I take it.

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 04:37 PM
That chart is useful, my mum is B (a director of somewhere) my step-dad is C1 and my cat is A

Metric1
05-09-2009, 05:54 PM
I would say I'm upper class. Although my mom is a single parent, she makes a very good income and we have nice things.

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 05:58 PM
I would say I'm upper class. Although my mom is a single parent, she makes a very good income and we have nice things.

Didnt you read this?

Just because you earn 'a very good income' dosent mean your automatically Upper Class.

Like someone mentioned if we compare ourselves with Frasier, from the show, with the very nice apartment, flash suits and so on, we wouldnt come close, and hes still Middle class.

dirrty
05-09-2009, 06:00 PM
even bill gates is still middle class...

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 06:18 PM
even bill gates is still middle class...

Mmm, Maybe true.

dirrty
05-09-2009, 06:23 PM
Mmm, Maybe true.
well reading about him now, hes upper middle class - but that's before his astonishing wealth and from birth as he was born into an upper middle class family. but my point was just because you have loads of new money doesn't automatically make you upper class. you must firstly have the attitudes & values of the upper class to be one :P

Metric1
05-09-2009, 06:33 PM
My mom owns two houses, each with 4+ bedrooms and 3+ bathrooms and one has an in-ground pool and a hot tub. My mom owns her own business my mom also owns three vehicles. I consider myself to have been brought up down-to-earth, yet upper-class.

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 06:34 PM
My mom owns two houses, each with 4+ bedrooms and 3+ bathrooms and one has an in-ground pool and a hot tub. My mom owns her own business my mom also owns three vehicles. I consider myself to have been brought up down-to-earth, yet upper-class.

So, once again you are trying to prove your class via wealth.

Did you not read the last posts?

Metric1
05-09-2009, 06:38 PM
So, once again you are trying to prove your class via wealth.

Did you not read the last posts?

Why are you so concerned what class I consider myself to have been brought up in. Honestly, what difference does it make?

Caution
05-09-2009, 06:40 PM
Why are you so concerned what class I consider myself to have been brought up in. Honestly, what difference does it make?
That class isn't based on money.

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 06:42 PM
Why are you so concerned what class I consider myself to have been brought up in. Honestly, what difference does it make?

Because you have got it wrong, i'm just trying to tell you, but then you just go on proving your weath which adds nothing to your 'upper-class' case.

Metric1
05-09-2009, 06:43 PM
Well you can't exactly be classy driving in a Fiat Panda..... LOL

dirrty
05-09-2009, 06:45 PM
i don't think you understand the concept of the class system.

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 06:47 PM
Yeh your not really grasping anything about this thread.

Or the thread i posted a second ago, judging on your reply, the reply where you are going off you being upper class as you are starting to realise you are wrong

Ohh, and the -Rep?, Its not my buisness to tell you what class you are?, This thread contains discussion, discussing how to define the classes, but because we are trying to tell you what class you are, as you are getting wrong, even after a nice pretty chart to work off, you go and -Rep me.

Its you who is the wrong one in this thread, it seems wealth, two houses and multiple cars, cant bring you common sense or any knowledge of what we're talking about.

FlyingJesus
05-09-2009, 07:06 PM
To be fair to Ashton he's in America where they don't have born titles, so their version of upper class is different (although American upper class is people worked up to or born into millions so still not quite there)

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 07:10 PM
Is Ashton, preposterous?

Metric1
05-09-2009, 07:13 PM
Is Ashton, preposterous?

No, I am Ashton.

AlexOC
05-09-2009, 07:16 PM
Oh yeh sorry, i forgot who was who, i got mixed up as you both have grey names.

Well im not going to go anymore into your class, why you think you are what class you are, whats different in countries.

You got it a bit wrong, i tried to correct you, it turned out into an argument.

I will end it here.

ifuseekamy
05-09-2009, 08:36 PM
To be honest, most upper-class people don't even work. They tend to have so much money and land that they make an income from it.

In a few years class will be a majort part of society again, cant wait :rolleyes: what with everyone 'needing' to have the latest this and that, you will soon start getting very clear divides, thus your class system well and truely back.


*Oh and working class :)
There still is classism, you just don't really experience it because the wealthy don't ever have to "mingle with the common folk". If you plan on going to universities like Oxbridge, York, Durham, Newcastle, Warwick etc. you will probably experience it. They are full of snooty rich kids who refuse to talk to anyone they consider below themselves.

Recursion
05-09-2009, 09:58 PM
Upper Middle/Upper

CJW93
05-09-2009, 10:01 PM
Middle I would say

alexxxxx
05-09-2009, 10:07 PM
ive come to the conclusion im upper-middle.

Black_Apalachi
06-09-2009, 06:59 AM
even bill gates is still middle class...

Exactly. Just because your mate is middle class and you're significantly better off than them doesn't make you upper class. There's different levels within each class as Catzsy displayed in the below quote. I'm sure I said from the beginning that upper class is something you're born into and that working class are manual labourers.


I would say to be Upper Class generally means that you have to be born into it such as 'titled' parents etc.

Market Researchers use the following classification which has little to do with money. You could be Upper Class and broke.

social grade social status occupation
A upper middle class higher managerial, administrative or professional
B middle class intermediate managerial, administrative or professional
C1 lower middle class supervisory or clerical, junior managerial, administrative or professional
C2 skilled working class skilled manual workers
D working class semi and unskilled manual workers
E those at lowest level of subsistence state pensioners or widows (no other earner), casual or lowest grade workers

I would have said my mum was either A, B or C1 as she has an administrative kind of job but I can't tell the difference between them after that. All I know is we've never been that well off but I think she's earning more now than she has for a long time.

However, she's a widow and that chart suggests that automatically puts her in the E bracket :P.

Caution
06-09-2009, 05:43 PM
What class are you if you don't work (live off benefits and stuff), because you can't be working class? :S

dirrty
06-09-2009, 05:48 PM
What class are you if you don't work (live off benefits and stuff), because you can't be working class? :S
working class.

buttons
06-09-2009, 05:53 PM
What class are you if you don't work (live off benefits and stuff), because you can't be working class? :S
pretty sure it's just called lower class, although some say that working class can fit into it. i was taught there were 2 different types, upper-lower = working class then lower-lower for unemployed/part-time employed

AlexOC
06-09-2009, 05:56 PM
What class are you if you don't work (live off benefits and stuff), because you can't be working class? :S

If you dont work you cant be working class

LULZ I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

Immenseman
06-09-2009, 05:56 PM
i always thought working class and lower class was just the same thing really. i think the system is quite outdated and working class is more suited for like the 18/19thth century when they did lots of agricultural and factory work. because nowadays people like plumbers are still classed as working class which kinda contradicts the idea that it's down to occupation and wealth because some earn like 50k a year which is more than numerous professionals.

AlexOC
06-09-2009, 05:57 PM
Lets make our own system

Noob - Dosent work
Bronze member
Gold member
Mod
Administrator

Immenseman
06-09-2009, 05:59 PM
i think some members have more influence than mods though!!

drama
06-09-2009, 06:01 PM
I consider myself Middle Class without even thinking about it, not a snobby thing but if we're basing it on factors mentioned in this thread (parents jobs and wealth, houses, cars etc etc) then I would say I am.

Then again it's hard not to when you live in Cambridge darling

OmgitsAmanda
06-09-2009, 09:23 PM
working class

efq
06-09-2009, 09:24 PM
I'd say upperclass because I live off my parents money and software businesses so...? My parents rarely go into their businesses, maybe for meetings. (http://www.google.co.uk/finance?q=LON%3ABRY) I don't want to sound like a snob though :/

Jibbish
06-09-2009, 09:26 PM
lower middle class i guess

Abbie.
11-09-2009, 12:13 AM
well my dad used to earn over £20 in the police and he was quite high up

but he put over (life savings) 100 grand into stocks and shares and lost it all.

hes retired now and works in a hotel.

so working.

yay :(

Mint
11-09-2009, 12:58 AM
First of all, I don't mean to sound as if I am boasting in this post.

My mum's a solicitor, dad owns a prestige car sales garage and they both buy to let houses, we have around 25 houses at the moment around the 100k-200k mark. I guess our income is somewhere around 400k a year because the houses aren't actually at the stage where they make money, they just pay for themselves. It's probably quite a bit higher than average so I'd expect to be upper-middle class or upper class. I voted upper before I read that you're only upper if you're born into dukes etc. So yeh I'm middle class.

Metric1
11-09-2009, 02:18 AM
First of all, I don't mean to sound as if I am boasting in this post.

My mum's a solicitor, dad owns a prestige car sales garage and they both buy to let houses, we have around 25 houses at the moment around the 100k-200k mark. I guess our income is somewhere around 400k a year because the houses aren't actually at the stage where they make money, they just pay for themselves. It's probably quite a bit higher than average so I'd expect to be upper-middle class or upper class. I voted upper before I read that you're only upper if you're born into dukes etc. So yeh I'm middle class.

Yeah, that's what my mum does. She barely works anymore!

Blinger1
11-09-2009, 03:10 AM
Hmm, i would say middle class? I mean, i live with my parents and I have a full time job finished school.. etc.. We earn enough to indulge with holidays but not every second day.. So yeah.


What class are you if you don't work (live off benefits and stuff), because you can't be working class? :S
You'd be a failure.

Cypher-
11-09-2009, 06:31 AM
Middle class ? as im not poor but im not super rich but like we have a nice house and nice stuff in it? and i have a rly nice cat so imma say middle

Lol, A really nice cat made me laugh :)

Lost_Addict
11-09-2009, 08:31 AM
My parents don't have the best education for instance they didn't go to uni. but my dad is co-owner of a company and gets 55k a year.

we have a reasonable sized house and 2 people carriers.

so i'm guessign im middle class?



@ Blinger hahaha sorry that made me laugh alot +rep

Black_Apalachi
11-09-2009, 01:28 PM
pretty sure it's just called lower class, although some say that working class can fit into it. i was taught there were 2 different types, upper-lower = working class then lower-lower for unemployed/part-time employed

The one thing I know is that there's nothing called 'lower class' soz Jen :P.

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